TORO Grandstand VS FERRIS Soft Ride

[@Bladesofgrasslawncare]

Very informative review, Freddy. Thanks for sharing!

[@wizdom705]

Hey Freddy! I started my business a year ago and remember watching your snow removal and salting videos for advice and help,you taught me so much!! I’m thriving to hit the 100 client mark and Thankyou so much for all your advice and great videos

[@LawnThumbs]

Hell yeah!! Love hearing that! 👊🏼

[@firstname6208]

Cut a piece of puzzle matt for the z1. Platform. It helps with neuropathy in the feet. Love the speed selector and the response of the steering on the z1. The gas gauge is out of the sun, which means you will be able to read it for years to come. The way the safety switches work is more intuitive. The toro has difficulty keeping the front wheels on the ground. You are well behind the axel (old technology).

[@Hillsidelanscapemanagement]

I own both machines and each has advantages. That said, I much prefer the Toro. The cut is better on the Toro and I found that it turns much better without tearing up the lawn, even on tight turns. The ferris, even with taller/wider tires, will slide even in dry grass. That's more of a result of the tread than the size of the tire. The ferris is definitely more compact and won't lift as high in the front as the Toro, however, it does lift more frequently due to the shorter wheel base. You touched on the huge filler neck of the Ferris and that's a huge advantage. I've never lost a drop of fuel filling the Ferris. The speed control on the Ferris is a nice touch for sure. It really helps new employees learn. I think the main advantage to either depends upon the dealer. The dealer truly makes any mower better or worst than it really is. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on them

[@elitelawns9437]

I run Toro's because of the quality of cut, and that's it. Either you're going to bust your knees or your back, take your pick, but I'm not sacrificing the cut I get from Toro. Tearing turf is how you make your turns and if you do a zero turn, turn, then you're going to tear turf regardless. Only problem I have is transport, the Grand stand has to be bungeed or ratchet strapped down or it'll move all over the place.

[@Hillsidelanscapemanagement]

@@elitelawns9437 I agree to a point. The Ferris I have will slide no matter how you turn unless you really slow down before even beginning the y turn. The toros can do that turn at almost full speed of your careful. What years are your grandstands? I have a 16 and a 19 . The 16 will move on the trailer but the 19 is pretty good about staying. I secure them regardless these days as I'm now in the mountains but back in Florida they only got the strap on the way to the first properties she the way back to the shop

[@elitelawns9437]

@@Hillsidelanscapemanagement 2011. Only maybe 700 hours. I don't have a full week mow schedule, and I change the oil and put Lucas products in it. I only have 1 and run a 52" ...whatever the name of that Toro is... Groundmaster? It's a 2011, too. I don't know what the Japanese know about engines, but if I could put a Kawasaki in my truck... I had an old self propelled Honda that I let the oil almost run dry one time, and it still kept ticking. We just got Ferris around here and I heard about them back home, but I don't know that I trust a suspension system on a mower. How's that work out with the cut?

[@Hillsidelanscapemanagement]

@@elitelawns9437 I think Toro upgraded the parking brake on the grandstands since 2011 so that may be why I don't have much of a problem with them rolling on the trailer. I've never had anything with a Honda engine but I've heard nothing but good things about their small engines. The Ferris definitely doesn't cut as well as the Toros but I think that's more about deck design than the suspension system

[@garyp1930]

toro has best cut quality ? is there anything else better or toro is it

[@PCGonline]

i went from a ferris z1 to a toro 36 back to a ferris z1. Ferris is faster, cuts better, and a bit more powerful. toro grandstand is more comfortable but the grandstand loves throwing clumps, its super slow in reverse, but it does stripe a tiny bit better. if anyone is looking at the Z1 id say opt for the 23hp vanguard its a night and day difference compared to the 19 hp kawi

[@andrewmayer204]

Thanks for your input I'll get the 23 horse now. I've been shopping

[@peterprobst6307]

Here's an efficiency tip you may want to consider. I have a 52" Ferris Z2 I bought new in 2018 and I am very pleased with it. I noticed in your video that you were experiencing a slight delay when pulling the pin to change the deck height on your Ferris. To eliminate this, I popped out the indent ball that keeps the pin in place so I could more easily lift out the pin and change deck height. I did this a couple of years ago and have had no regrets since doing so.

[@LawnThumbs]

Love that tip. Thanks!

[@walterrocha8764]

Great video Freddy!

[@mikedeiana1504]

Great video excellent choices on the truck beds and also the equipment

[@paveltkachenko3231]

I wish they had a bag for collecting the grass clippings....... I would buy one today. I like the toro one.

[@BlueberryStinkFinger62]

As far as riding tractors go it's the first run of the Craftsman Turn Tight Series T240 all day long..5" turn and incredible build

[@joey-zr8lt]

Yes they are I also have the first run of the Craftsman turn tight t260 built like a little tank love the 5" turning ability best $3,000 I spent I have herd the newer versions 2022 to present have been downgraded from the original first run 2019 to 2021

[@BlueberryStinkFinger62]

@joey-zr8lt indeed I have the 2021 T240 Kohler 7000 series Engine 22 horsepower 725cc V Twin 3 year unlimited hours warranty and it's designed after the Kohler command commercial Pro Engine so basically your getting a commercial engine on a residential mower there heavy also the dry weight on mine with out the deck and 3.1 gallon fuel tank is 630 pounds straight frame mine has the 46" deck yours is the 48" I looked at John deere Husqvarna simplicity none matched up to the craftsman T240 turn tight series Tractor paid $3,470 with tax best investment I made..I do like this fellas Toro Toro is also a awesome mower

[@El_mamithi]

Ferris Z3 la mejor de lejos como se adaptan las llantas al suelo es increíble

[@hashrosinking1608]

Just bought a 36" Ferris z1 with the 23 HP Vangaurd 💪

[@michaelknowsstocks5170]

how do you like it. i am getting a demo to try. is cut quality good? folks above say they like toro better?!?!?

[@rbljackson]

thanks for the help with the measurements last year freddy. I am scheduled to go pick up my new Z1 36 this coming weekend. I hope it will help me get thru the lawns because im 54 now and man its getting tough to get out there in the west texas heat and do some of these yards with walk behinds. Yeah i know.....ole school. Im ready to (hopefully) speed things up too! What spare parts would you recommend for the Ferris? Blades, belts, spare air filter, and ???

[@LawnThumbs]

I honestly haven’t had any issues with my Ferris. I would get extra belts I never replaced mine yet, but having so many grandstands over the years that is good to have on hand. The air filter would be good too.

[@rbljackson]

@@LawnThumbs thanks a bunch for your assistance. Excited to get it over the weekend and put it to work.

[@livinginmetrocharlottenc]

Question for you Sir….. is there a manufacturer for the pickup truck beds the you are using

[@LawnThumbs]

No, I found an out of work super master welder and showed him what I wanted and he built it. Then I over paid him and had him make me more.

[@louislograno7524]

Great channel!! What do you think of the Kohler efi vs a Kawasaki carb.Keep up the great work.

[@LawnThumbs]

Thank you, I’ve never had an issue with any of them actually. With that said personally I do prefer Kawasaki mainly because I’m more familiar with the parts and so is my dealer but like I said, I’ve not had any issues with either.

[@elitelawns9437]

My Grand stand is a 2011 Model, and it does have an adjustable speed bar. Did they take that off? I would use that when on Fescue to go slower and make more precise turns.

[@LawnThumbs]

No mine don’t but I never had a grandstand before 2014 I believe. What size deck is that. Just curious if it’s 48” or bigger.

[@briansnead4787]

@Lawn Thumbs 36" . I bought to get into back yards. And it's really handy on really small turf areas on islands and such at commercial properties. Looks like yours doesn't have it, but honestly, they probably made the hydros smoother and did away with it. It's just a stick that has a 1 to 8 rating. 8 is wide open. I rarely use the feature as I go in "haul balls" mode anyways lol. They aren't fast to begin with, and one thing I will say is that the tradeoff for reverse speed is not good. Either you speed up the forward and go turtle slow backward, or go kinda slow forward and decent reverse. I am mulch mowing everything and only mow properties that the customer wants me to treat and fertilize as well. I don't mow weeds. So even on thick Bermuda or Zoysia, those units can handle higher speeds of cut, even with mulching decks. My buddy got me into those curved blades and not the ninja ones like I assumed were the best. No lines left afterwards and easier to sharpen. Also mulching is basically no chance of throwing rocks. I've had one person in 10 years stop and say a rock flew out and hit their windshield. Even then they never followed up with me wanting to get an their info and proceed through. (Oddly was a really nice Escalade) 😆

[@MrBigal123123]

need a tour of the yard

[@joshowens2219]

Any luck with or have you ever tried SCAG?

[@LawnThumbs]

@@joshowens2219 I never used a scag. So I don’t know how they are.

[@rbljackson]

Freddy, can you verify a measurement for me please? Im considering a Z1 36" with mulch kit installed for my biz. I need it to fit on my trailer next to my 36" Exmark walk behind. I have a total of 40-41" of width available. Can you check your Z1 and confirm the overall width measurement for me please? I really think that z1 might be a great addition to my mower options. OH and one unrelated question....how are those gas tanks working out that you have mounted on the trailers? Im considering mounting a set of them like you have at the front of my landscape trailer

[@LawnThumbs]

I’ll measure it tomorrow. And I do love the gas tanks but I’m doing something new. I’ll show it soon.

[@LawnThumbs]

So it’s really hard to measure this but I feel like 36” is the measurement measuring from tire to tire in the outside. I think that’s wider than the deck

[@rbljackson]

@@LawnThumbs thanks freddy. I have 40" to work with.....so it sounds like a 36 z1 stander would work for me as long as I take the chute off and use a mulch kit. your timing couldnt be better....i was just home for lunch and checking youtube....LOL.

[@gabrielzuccarelli6922]

@@LawnThumbshey Freddy, how wide is the deck without the chute blocker? The website says 42 with the chute blocker up but I think it’s closer to the 36?

[@krishathcox738]

What’s your average property size that you mow and do you only run 36s?

[@LawnThumbs]

5,300 Sq Ft

[@Misterpoisonivy]

Yes sir

[@jimb1073]

Which one has better belt life

[@LawnThumbs]

My gut is saying the Ferris, just because I don’t remember having to change that one yet? But I don’t usually fix those mowers my shop guy does so I could be wrong.

[@KeepItMowed]

How the units holding up? Any real issues?

[@LawnThumbs]

No issues other than last week the bearings on one of the front wheel assembly for the Ferris came apart and it’s taken about 2 weeks to get the part needed. It could be a mis communication with the parts place but that’s been my only issue this far.

[@KeepItMowed]

@@LawnThumbs I'm shocked bearings came apart on that Ferris. Always thought they had upper grade bearings. Well if that's it, not bad then.

[@bladesofglorylawns]

I personally think the Ferris all day makes the best stander period. That’s just me, I’ve run em all basically

[@LawnThumbs]

It’s a great mower!

[@roseanncloskey]

Toro is the best you can buy. I have a self propelled 21in 26 years old the only parts i put on magnito. belt interlock switch and 2 spark plugs. starts the second pull . carb was never cleaned . just put carb cleaner in the gas and used 89 octane . 5/23/2023yr

[@KeepItMowed]

Nice

[@scoop-pm7lk]

l like the no trailer deal I have always wanted a hotrod flatbed for doing my stuf maybe a 1966 or 1968 chevy C10 or ford F100 Lowered a few inches with a custom aluminum flatbed I Hate driving what everyone else has .. its just boring ... I would also like a dump bed added for delivering mulch or dumping leaves .Im a hoobyist I do many things we only do a couple comercial accounts .

[@jeremybruce654]

Ferris hands down in my opinion. Unless you need your mower to bag

[@rontopping7811]

Your comparing toros oldest model 36inch . Been discontinued

[@scoop-pm7lk]

on the Ferris you stand between the tires the Toro you are behnd I myself would like the Ferris

[@neighborhoodlawncare9872]

The only way to go with a Ferris “ferr-raruis “ is get the Z3 model with the 37hp vanguard mower. Have you employee try that one. It’s a whole different experience. Talk about efficiency……. That’s all I can say. Otherwise your video is dead on how one should go about purchasing their Equipment.

[@gordonbickel7182]

Stand up mowers are easier on your body The complete body is taking the shock instead of the lower back after 12 hour days.

[@rontopping7811]

Ferris is owned by briggs and Stratton. Shit company dont stand behind anything they sell. Toro is more comfortable. 36 grandstand has been discounted due to being front heavy

[@bikes7777]

Easy choice, I didn't even watch the video. Toro is Hyundai, Ferris is Lexus.