Real Lawyer Reacts: Pro Se Lori Vallow Argues In Court! Not What I Expected

[@LawyerYouKnow]

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[@It-is-me...Melsie]

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[@cherylsouza4926]

@@It-is-me...Melsie If you're referring to Peter's "pinned" sponsorship, then you don't quite understand how these vlogs work-- expressly given the inordinate number of hours Peter devotes for free to his followers.

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

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[@It-is-me...Melsie]

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[@It-is-me...Melsie]

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[@Auqua1973]

Of course Lori doesn't think there is any evidence of a crime, she also doesn't think it was wrong to kill her children.

[@surpriseimblack]

That would be a false conclusion. She means that the state hasn't proven their case. Both things can be true. Laurie was making excellent arguments for a pro se defendant... Now whether she committed the predicate Acts, that's a different story...

[@unicorn73212]

Chances are they already did if she's still in a prison it means you were found guilty they cannot find you guilty of murder without proof of DNA testing if she didn't kill them then who did then? That's why I think she's delusional so they probably found her guilty but with reason of insanity. If you really are innocent of a crime especially a murder charge they will bail you out. For instance they tried to charge me with failures to report a felony when I was only 20 years old there accusation was that I saw my ex bf kill his mom and didn't call the police on purpose but my lawyer said I was in shock and they had to bail me out. Innocent means they found no proof that you were apart of the crime and you had zero involvement in the crime. It's kind of like being a hostage why would a hostage call the police if they know they might get stabbed too?

[@Ieezeca]

No, she switched to blaming her daughter for killing her brother, then herself bc she went crazy. Then Chad just cleaned up.

[@malinaakins3687]

MK ULTRA, MICROCHIP MANIPULATION (ILLUMINATI) WAS USED ON LORI VALLOW AND CHAD DAYBELL. THAT'S HOW HER BROTHER DIED WITH NO FOUL PLAY TO CONVINCE LORI THAT WHAT SHE THOUGHT WAS HAPPENING WAS REAL. SO THE PROSECUTORS,FEDS KILLED 4 PPL. TAMMY DAYBELL DID FALL OUT OF THE BED DEAD. CHAD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. WELCOME TO THE EYE OF PROVIDENCE, ALL SEEING EYE, ILLUMINATI (WE'RE ALL CHIPPED)

[@vanessamccarthy7807]

Is that her latest 'theory/explanation' that's like adding insult to injury. She's a vile excuse for a human being. Do you know where I can watch/listen to that please? ​@@Ieezeca

[@rachelb315]

It feels like she is taking a high school law class, giving a presentation, and doing her best to pass with charisma.

[@toribern419]

Exactly 👍🏽

[@doom4067]

She had nothing to lose or win, and she knows that. She's already in until the long nap on other convictions.

[@MildredCady]

Did she/Chad have a sovereign citizen phase? I don’t remember.

[@CatMomAmanda]

Well said

[@terryarmstrong8598]

​@MildredCady No, they didn't. Thank the gods she isn't. Attemting to follow trains of "thought" in SovCit legal arguments is painful beyond measure.

[@deannashowers2994]

Her sense of grandiosity is palpable

[@jeannehood1222]

I would agree

[@jthomas2728]

What really makes me sad is that when Charles was murdered by Alex and Alex, Lori and Tylee were all interviewed by Chandler detectives and somehow the detectives never investigated the murder properly because there were so many inconsistencies in their stories, that if they had done their job properly, Alex and Lori would have been arrested for murder art that time and obviously the children would still be alive today.

[@Kelsey_918]

This is so freaking true!

[@elizabethoneill9572]

Poor Tylee she saves her Mom only to be murdered by her later, so chilling.

[@dsoule4902]

If you didn't know what you know-- would you fall for her poppycock? She's slick & creepy to us... and LE are used to dealing with criminals... but not with blond, veneered, serial killers ... Mormon are high trust society. Large lds population in AZ

[@AutisticAxl]

Wow. 😢

[@AlexAndra-iy5zu]

Welcome to Gilbert and Chandler where Gilbert has no crime and Chandler has little crime The detectives have zero experience with murder crimes.

[@heavymetalrehab]

I know representing herself, is her right, however, I cannot help but feel that this is an opportunity in her mind to be the center of attention even more and show everyone "how smart she is." 🙄

[@dianemoore474]

Yes, of course that is her MO.

[@fourofcats5803]

That is what it is. Further proof of her complete narcissism. I cannot stand her. Every time I see her face I think of those sweet kids. She’s a child killer and she STILL gets all these rights.

[@fuzzjunky]

she will find out the same bitter truth that sarah boone did. I wonder if Lori is going to make a statement style testimony like Robert Tellis? omg that would be priceless

[@motocatz87]

@@fuzzjunky OMG...a narrative testimony from Lori would def be priceless and would keep on giving throughout the years!!

[@critterscute3642]

That’s exactly why she’s doing it. “Look and listen to me everyone. I am a goddess and a super smart one.”

[@regallylola5673]

I find it incredibly disturbing that she can make such factual statements and yet still believe her children were zombies and had to go. It’s disgusting and disturbing and makes me believe she did all these things on purpose and not because of the excuses she gave.

[@Lokisdottir1964]

I agree. I don't think she ever believed any of the nonsense she was spouting. Those kids were in her way so she got rid of them, just like Charles, Tammy, Brandon (attempted) and her hit list of others. She's a serial killer.

[@hollybeee]

Yes, I think didn't want to be a mom anymore and talked herself into believing those things. You can tell she gets bored easily by how often she has changed husbands.

[@scorpiointuitive6034]

Me too

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

@@Lokisdottir1964 I think she is just good at playing a part, or even playing human. She has no real depth nor care. For a while she played being a mother.

[@amandafranks2683]

I agree!!!

[@Weissguys6]

Justice for Charles! If only the police had listened to him………💔

[@imalwaysright88]

I know, that video of him talking to the police is so sad 😞

[@DawnStarkman]

I hope the Arizona court system is a lot healthier and more equipped then the Arizona Police Department. Just putting that out there.

[@keep.it.moving77]

@@DawnStarkman they absolutely dropped the ball on this investigation, and even offered Lori a victim's advocate, as if she was Charles' victim. Lori played her part really well, too. Sickening.

[@karmachameleon7148]

Honestly it infuriates me, the whole situation. I overheard a family member plan out my demise. And how she would convince the police she was trying to save me. I called the police, they did not believe me. What would have happened if I had not moved in with a friend? I have no idea. Maybe nothing. But maybe not. It was terrifying to overhear.

[@GirlLearningTheWorld]

@@Weissguys6 💯! There were too many situations that some people were privy to and others were privy to a different amount of information. Charles was the only one with some spidey sense about him to figure this all out and she tricked Alex into killing him. I would love to know why/how Alex is dead. Don't you guys?

[@kerryallen4665]

Omg the patience the judge is going to need to get through this

[@aheineman9138]

You must not have watched the Darrell Brooks trial, or Saw ah Boone’s pro se hearings for that matter.😂 Any pro se trial requires more patience but this judge is on easy street by comparison. Go watch 15 minutes of Brooks-you’re in for a treat.😂😂😂

[@Smart-Towel-RG-400]

This isn't even that bad

[@aheineman9138]

@@Smart-Towel-RG-400 I totally agree.

[@H37P5kY57]

This is tame...watch Darrell Brooks or when Sarah Boone was going pro se... those judges had remarkable patience. Lori so far is doing a decent job.

[@surpriseimblack]

What are you talking about? Lori vallow is deliberately trying to blend in. Darrell Brooks would randomly just yell out “SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION !!!” AND “FAX ! YO ! ”

[@corrinnajordan2749]

She is not an idiot - she is sly like a fox. And she can still be crazy, but not insane.

[@jimmergel8279]

@@corrinnajordan2749 she's a psychopath. Fully functional. Has to be very upsetting to the families.

[@dz7a756]

And downright evil...that's how satan works...likes to appear as light, as being nice and sound mind...but is not AT ALL. Like Lori 😒😐😑. Be well and be at peace.

[@surpriseimblack]

What line of work was she in before this?

[@kim9057]

I heard her talking and she sounds like an argue some idiot she always were

[@lorileary4432]

@@surpriseimblack , she was a beautician .

[@Weissguys6]

Cult leaders are usually quite eloquent.

[@slister45]

As are those who suffer from delusions, but that's the cult leader's problem as well.

[@SuperDuppydoo]

Yes. She is in the same realm as Ted Bundy…. Exuding confidence and charisma. But still acts like she’s gonna get 15 more minutes of fame. That’s what narcissists and psychopaths do!

[@81suze]

She is far from eloquent

[@TheCarteBlancheMaven]

Disgustingly…. My mother is one one of these

[@benniebella]

The reason they waited two years is because you were being tried in another state for the murder of your children.

[@malinaakins3687]

MK ULTRA, MICROCHIP MANIPULATION (ILLUMINATI) WAS USED ON LORI VALLOW AND CHAD DAYBELL. THAT'S HOW HER BROTHER DIED WITH NO FOUL PLAY TO CONVINCE LORI THAT WHAT SHE THOUGHT WAS HAPPENING WAS REAL. SO THE PROSECUTORS,FEDS KILLED 4 PPL. TAMMY DAYBELL DID FALL OUT OF THE BED DEAD. CHAD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. WELCOME TO THE EYE OF PROVIDENCE, ALL SEEING EYE, ILLUMINATI (WE'RE ALL CHIPPED)

[@windywednesday4166]

❤ Right?! That and trying to bump off Brandon Boudreaux was a big tip to look back at the first 'incident'.

[@lisamorehouse7469]

It’s like she didn’t remember writing those texts about how they were zombies and needed to be offed.

[@ChristinaB9782]

She's really just a dummy trying to fake it, 'til she makes it!!

[@benniebella]

I think she loves all this attention. She's enjoying this whole thing.

[@ConnieLeinicke]

I did expect her to be prepared to argue. She is really confident in her arguments, even when they are wrong.

[@MomtoAutism]

She is PASSIONATE about her defense but then she couches it in a sweet girlish request, which is exactly why she was able to convince so many people to committ murders on her behalf. She is nonsensical, so people try to compensate for her 'delusions'. Thanks for breaking this down! Cannot wait for this trial!!!!

[@princessadora]

she's mormon she spoke like a mormon. that's just her background.

[@loricoyle5755]

I can’t stand that “girly” talk! Grow up lady

[@neosays11]

💯

[@surpriseimblack]

​@@princessadora There are a lot of zealous Mormon intellectuals that get very far in life...

[@surpriseimblack]

You guys should check out the eight passengers mommy influencer story. If you saw her you would totally think she's just a normal lady

[@CatMomAmanda]

4:19 I am not surprised by her confident demeanor whatsoever. This is how she was able to win people over to her side her whole life.

[@surpriseimblack]

It's not just confident; it's competent. What line of work was she in before this?

[@Shelsight]

She was a hairdresser. Doesn't mean she wasn't smart though. I've had hairdressers who could comfortably talk about any subject they put their mind to. And she has shown such intelligence and arrogance in acting out, then avoiding and then defending her criminal actions before. She's an intelligent woman. Dangerously so... Good on her. But she is destroying her defence for killing her kids in every sentence. She knew exactly what she was doing...​@@surpriseimblack

[@4Mr.Crowley2]

@@surpriseimblack if you just sit back and think through what she’s trying to argue it falls apart entirely. She doesn’t understand that nothing needs to be proven to HER before trial. The jury/judge is the finder of fact - not the defense and the defendant.

[@toriwangsgard8124]

Her demanour in this & any videos I've ever seen of her, would never win me over. I don't understand how anyone falls for anything she's ever said.

[@Louiseyhann]

Pure Narcissist.

[@Robyn_Jax]

I love it. We got “iota and scintilla” all in one sentence from the judge.

[@kelleyanderson7307]

😂😂😂

[@bitrage.]

Being evil doesn’t equal being dumb, so it makes her very evil calculated murderer.

[@Cinder_311]

She's not that bright. Clearly.

[@MB-ed6wi]

she clearly thinks she is smart and in control. Neither are true.

[@suewatching7768]

Makes sense that she is articulate and charismatic, her whole thing is manipulating people

[@SheriHoolsema]

I disagree, I don't think she is charismatic at all. SHE thinks she is charismatic, but I find her presentation and demeanor very off putting.

[@suewatching7768]

@ for sure, but better than most pro sea (sp? ) I agree she is vile 🤮

[@lorileary4432]

@@SheriHoolsema, I agree 100% ! Lori Daybell TRIES to so charming, etc., BUT, her anger/frustration is so close to the surface, she has a really hard time trying to suppress it ! You can hear it in her voice !

[@81suze]

@@suewatching7768 she isn’t truly articulate. She couldn’t write an essay.

[@shelbyvpool]

Girl who breaks the laws are telling us how the law works, is killing me

[@ohcarie]

She sounds so coherent it almost makes you forget that she freaking killed multiple people.

[@LordOfThePancakes]

You should pay attention. 🙂 You might learn a thing or two…

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

@@LordOfThePancakes What does that even mean?

[@AlexAndra-iy5zu]

@@ohcarieRight?!? 5 ☠️ and One who survived an attempt on his life. I think as we watch the trial we all remember why we are here

[@notnow7973]

“Our great constitution…”. This woman.

[@brendapaw]

Lori is enjoying the attention for as long it lasts. At this point it’s a game for her. She’s a cat toying with a mouse except she has already lost thank goodness

[@Sandonbeach00]

There is no stake for her. So of course it’s only for the attention

[@benniebella]

Does anybody get the impression that Lori is loving this? How can you be so happy and giddy sounding. Now she's getting all the attention that she always wanted. I know she has a right to defend herself but this is just playing into her sickness

[@aliciahermansen6319]

She’s arrogant and is seeking attention as usual. Justice for Charles and Brandon. 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@bethanywhite877]

This just proves her sanity to me even more and she knows exactly what she did and what she is doing. She is crazy but not insane.

[@corrinnajordan2749]

I basically said the same thing.

[@AutisticAxl]

Not DSM-5 definition of insane. You are correct. She's just nuts

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

Yes, absolutely. She is just clever enough to know how to play a part.

[@sarkahalastova9667]

I can't forget the video with police officers fawning over her after Charles' death. She is a skilled manipulator and has pulled the wool over people's eyes her whole life.

[@babsoneverything3060]

She is so used to getting whatever she wants, by being charming, attractive and "bubbly", that she's deluded enough to think that it's going to get her somewhere in a murder trial also. True sociopath.

[@SummerLuvr7]

💯

[@khaleesireyna731]

I think one of the biggest takeaways that we can get from people like her is that you should never believe that you are capable of talking your way out of anything. Sure, some of us can talk our way out of little things like a ticket or a bad argument, but it gets dangerous when you think you can talk your way out of actual crimes like murder.

[@mattyj4852]

Lol - Peter's face watching her make arguments - priceless 🤣

[@kellyhaney9852]

Her "lawyer" helped her write it. Also she's a cult leader, she knows how to talk it up.

[@divinemischief4655]

Totally agree 🎯

[@toribern419]

Yep. Agree. I subscribe to her son’s YT channel and what she’s doing is just horrible to the rest of her living family. It truly makes me despise her.

[@thatsaboutit1991]

@@toribern419what’s his channel?

[@keep.it.moving77]

@@thatsaboutit1991 Colby J Ryan

[@vanessamccarthy7807]

​@@toribern419is Colbys YT channel his own name. I've just started hearing that she now blames Tylee for JJs death (despite evidence suggesting the poor girl was long gone before precious JJs murder). I'd stopped following quite as intently after Dumbbells trial and conviction. I feel like I've missed loads and need to catch up but not sure where to start.

[@elizabethwilson7892]

She's so full of herself. Her telling the judge what's law and what isn't is really rich. Let's face it, she's got zero to lose here. It's just an attention grab for someone who's all about as much attention as she can get.

[@hfug8]

The trial dates are so coincidental. Her trial in Idaho started on April 1st 2023, Chad's trial started on April 1st 2024, and her trial in Arizona is close to April 1st 2025.

[@rebekahheath7446]

All I heard was Charlie Brown's Teacher " Wa Wa Wa wa wa wa "

[@wynterhardy9]

It's horrendous that she is allowed to question victums. Her son colby has been having such a hard time. He has a brutally honest u tube channel

[@CatMomAmanda]

This is one of the only cases that I’ve been really invested in from the beginning. I remember when her kids went missing. I know that I personally got some closure for the kids when she and Chad were both convicted, but I feel like I won’t have full closure until she’s convicted for Charles also.

[@vanessamccarthy7807]

I'm the same. Sadly I also feel she was instrumental in Joe Ryan's death too but I don't think she'll ever face charges for that. Less sadly, I think there was some conspiratorial element to Alex's death too.

[@CatMomAmanda]

@ agreed

[@marytorbert5212]

Rewatching early Saturday morning from Idaho. Excited to get your opinion on LV attorney skill levels! Her mother and sister were in the courtroom. Sitting behind Prosecutor.

[@19Marleymum]

Her father Barry went around pretending to be a lawyer as well so this must make him so proud.

[@dianemoore474]

Oh that’s interesting. “ CONFIDENT FOOLS”must be a dominant family gene.

[@shantibel]

Interesting.

[@SummerLuvr7]

…. Yes he did, he railed against the government, the IRS I think, ….But he always lost …😉

[@Munjajane]

Yes. So true. I said the same thing. He fooled me too.

[@Munjajane]

@@SummerLuvr7 he had his home in San Antonio confiscated he went to prison for a year for not paying taxes. Then he tried to sue the govt back over It added he moved to AZ . The case is on line.

[@GirlLearningTheWorld]

She’s grasping at straws. She fears they know something that she knows or maybe doesn’t know. She is seeking and trying to find something to help her. The judge is spot on, on her behavior.

[@jennmoslek921]

Oh Snap, Lori has her "Lawyer" voice on! I wonder how long it will be before she requests bringing Chad on as her co-counsel? Lol

[@Christied70]

IMO, she LOVES taking the spotlight and making everyone listen to her.

[@IGGinAZ]

I live in Chandler and plan to attend the trial. It will be very hard for the victim's family because Lori will likely call them as witnesses.

[@TheSoAmySays]

It almost sounds like she knows there is something more that points to her guilt and she wants to make sure they don’t have it yet.

[@AuntDo]

Ahhhh, I was thinking the same thing.

[@saltandpepper986]

What all defendants sit on pins and needles about… and what suspects do as well, when they’ve not yet been arrested.

[@kellywhite2063]

Thank you for updating on Lori Vallow ! Please continue to follow her case.

[@2u2a]

I have recently learned that Lori's father was doing some pro se defense in tax court some time ago. He lost. His arguments were bordering on the sovcit types of narratives(you can easily find some documents online). So I would not be surprised if he was helping her too. Or that's where she got that confidence from.

[@DeweyLovesDuckies]

That’s where she got her delusional disorder. I don’t think her father helps anyone but himself.

[@u.synlig]

Lori Daybell attended college, but I do not know her degree status or field of study (prior to cosmetology school). She is articulate, and has experience in public speaking (former podcast host).

[@toribern419]

lol I love your pfp 😂

[@Adara007]

​@@u.synlig She trained as a hairdresser yet there's no evidence of any academic studies beyond high school.

[@Adara007]

That's right. Barry and Janis Cox tried to claim that taxes were unlawful and were joined by Alex in fighting the IRS, which was demanding hundreds of thousands in unpaid taxes. They claimed the government's case against them was "irrelevant" and "a waste of time" - and the US government denied their motion. The court found the Coxes’ objections to having to pay their back taxes were “without merit.” It also attached a tax lien to their property where Lori and her children lived in 2005 ruling that any money they received for the sale of it should go toward paying their back taxes.

[@divineinhalewithdonnacliff8112]

Just because she’s evil, doesn’t mean she’s not smart. Her crimes are so heartbreaking. Those poor kids and ex husband.

[@AuntClara0911]

And the husband before that Joe Ryan

[@cheryshstrong]

I always had the impression that she is very calculated and manipulative. Never dumb even though shes mentally ill.

[@aheineman9138]

@AuntClara It’s reported that LE went back and reinvestigated Joseph Ryan’s death after some suspicious audio recordings surfaced and reconfirmed his death was not homicide (heart failure).

[@ValeskaTruax]

​@@cheryshstrongYes I always figured she was pretty smart in the way she was always able to manipulate people and game the system.

[@ohcarie]

@@AuntClara0911and her lover’s wife

[@66debcar]

Prayers for California

[@AuntClara0911]

Thank You, we need all the help we can get!

[@Weissguys6]

Thank you! 🙏

[@sally7210]

She’s in prison for the rest of her life. What a waste of everyone’s time and money. I guess it’s to bring some sense of justice to Charles’ family, right?

[@saltandpepper986]

Yes. And Brandon Boudreaux, who is still alive.

[@sally7210]

@ right!

[@user-vz3fh6oj7d]

Her sounding apparently competent is more proof that she knew what she was doing through this whole thing. As a juror judging this, I wouldn't really think favorably of her. Those jurors know what she did.

[@Munjajane]

I bet he’s sick of her already.

[@mayak1599]

she seems to be having lots of fun with this latest chapter in her saga

[@DeweyLovesDuckies]

Peter, I appreciate your enduring respect for people’s inherent dignity. It is really difficult for me with this one. I appreciate this judge for the same reason. I work with young children and treat them with the patience he shows. I couldn’t do it with LV. Q: Who is the operating camera?

[@littlesmith5005]

Do you mean, who is operating the camera?

[@loricoyle5755]

Local news station

[@tubeorn0ttube]

The one with the foot fetish?

[@lisagriffith8033]

Her TONE is so demeaning and condescending. And I don’t think she can demand the state to cut their witness list.

[@princessadora]

no its not

[@Adelweiss-v5y]

Not unlike an attorney!

[@patriciaannvines4536]

I cannot watch this woman represent herself. Can't stop thinking about what she did to her children

[@toribern419]

And what she is continuing to do to her living family is what really pisses me off. And for what?? She’s never getting out. This is not only a waste of taxpayer money but a huge slap in the face to so many living victims. It’s one of the most narcissistic things someone can do. IMO anyway.

[@jenniferlatham6935]

I also feel so bad for the victims she will be cross examining - Particularly Kay and Colby (if he is called).

[@AuntDo]

​@jenniferlatham6935 I think she will at least try to subpoena Colby as she knows its likely the only way she will ever see him again.

[@maxlil6161]

The living victims want this trial. They want justice for Charles.

[@jenniferlatham6935]

@maxlil6161 yes they do. But I doubt they want to have to talk directly to Lori or have Lori question them. I know for a fact from listening to Colbys you tube channel he doesn't want to.

[@vandalsgarage]

"I disagree that the state's documentation is evidence of a conspiracy. And no one has been able to explain to my satisfaction when and why I was extradited, therefore the extradition shouldn't have happened, and without the extradition, there would be no trial. Boom. I rest my case"

[@tcancella7286]

5:31 Lori’s smug glib “happy nice lady” tone- while making zero sense- imagine poor Tylee (and Colby and JJ) hearing this exact nonsense “I’m so kind I’m going to set you straight” in this tone from their mom whenever they tried to advocate for themselves or point out actual reality she didn’t want to hear. Gaslighting, and the banality of evil. She loves to be the victim while she is actually acting as an abuser - unlike her kids, judge can just move on

[@DeweyLovesDuckies]

I’m quite sure she only used this tone with them if some outsider could see her.

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

@@DeweyLovesDuckies She has known how to perfect the roles she plays her entire life. Her looks and sweet voice have assisted in making her appear loving whereas she has proven to the world she is cold, cruel, and has no depth.

[@khaleesireyna731]

Believe it or not, A LOT of abusers are really good at playing the victim. Especially when their victims are trying to speak up. Keep that in mind whenever you hear someone whining and moaning about how mean their kids are.

[@leannec9669]

I am glad you’re reviewing this I watched it. I thought she did ok. But I think her voice is going to drive me nuts. 😂

[@maryfeldmann4297]

We all have to agree that she’s better than Darrell Brooks

[@aheineman9138]

😂

[@richardw3052]

Maybe at legal matters, but he is better at making a box fort.

[@fuzzjunky]

she's as vain as robert tellis. she's got form. but she can read, yes.

[@aheineman9138]

@@richardw3052 🤣🤣🤣 I had forgotten about all the boxes! And the handmade signs. She has better hair though.😉

[@antbooboo5884]

Just over here waiting for her to say "subject matter jurisdiction" 😂😂

[@SP-in7xv]

Too bad Lori killed her witness to her claim that Alex killed Charles in self-defense.

[@mr.m325]

maybe she thinks she was a lawyer in one of her 37 past lives on another planet

[@judyperea-maes5354]

It’s difficult to watch knowing she was guilty of killing her children!!!😢

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

Yes, and how terrified they would have been and she has always been so flippant about it while the rest of us are horrified.

[@StevenRoemerman]

I'm always down for a pro se defendant trial. You just never know what's gonna happen.

[@mandyD]

I'm amazed at how coherent she is. For someone who was crazy enough to murder her own children she is terrifyingly "normal" 😮😮

[@Enoughalready20237]

That’s the scary part. She was never ‘crazy,’ she’s just another example of the evil who lurk among us and what they are capable of in the first place, let alone when they meet their ‘soulmate’ who makes them believe they are an actual goddess and are also narcissists so anyone and everyone, including the children, are discardable, especially when money is involved. She was receiving 5k a month in survivor benefits for the kids plus she thought she was in a one million dollar life insurance policy for Charles. Money and a malignant narcissist(s) are just as dangerous as Ted Bundy.

[@juliespencer9673]

That's why she's so dangerous.

[@zappa-happy]

A crazy cult killer telling us the law is weird as hell 🙃

[@CoastalCarolina000]

It’s obvious that Lori is accustomed to lying, frequently, and getting away with it. A lot of what she is saying is irrelevant but she acts as though what she says carries authority and the court should listen and back down as a result.

[@Munjajane]

I know. It’s wild isn’t it ? Where does she get all this confidence and authority from? I think she’s in a manic state most of the time. She thinks the agencies are in a conspiracy against her. 😂

[@crystaldesarro3839]

So many things I want to say. 😂 But, I can’t…. “I’ve got to grab my glasses” hair flip 💆🏼‍♀️

[@KatB79]

She's in prison for the rest of her life, so this is just a game to her. No matter how well or not she plays this. Plead guilty & get it over with. Waste of time.

[@tallgirlhappyme]

*She's actually doing better than I thought she would.* (If only she had treated her family with such care and respect.) 🤢 *Justice for Charles.* ✝️ 🕊 🇺🇸 🗽

[@Enoughalready20237]

She didn’t write what she initially read. That was 100 percent her side counsel.

[@dianemoore474]

Her demeanor does not surprise me at all. Speaking words that have little substance, but said with confidence has always been her MO. Her demeanor is direct, but the content is irrelevant. Very Jody Arias like. They think they are smarter than anyone else, but their stories either have no truth or do not have a logical line of reasoning.

[@redwoodrebelgirl3010]

Very Mormon, in my experience & opinion (as a former Mormon, who spent years in Utah & started life in Idaho).

[@LisaLoni]

Right? Never went to law school, just her own trials 🤷🏼‍♀️🤣🤣

[@motherofintuitives]

Jodi Arias is an INFP empath who is part of the minority neurodivergent intuitive population...Jodi is more intelligent than common personalities like ESFJ Lori Vallow who is a covert narcissist who was not born gifted with high intelligence....

[@SweetUniverse]

Tell me you were once a cheerleader without telling me you were once a cheerleader

[@ravenrozeb3790]

Bingo!

[@khaleesireyna731]

Tell me you obsess over your "glory days" back in high school without TELLING me.

[@JPEaglesandKatz]

I almost can't stand watching this entity of evil in court again.... but maybe it will give some comic relief at some point.

[@maryfeldmann4297]

Do we all agree she believes Joseph Smith, Angel, Marona, and perhaps Chad are part of her defense that is why she is saying we instead of me some of the time

[@JanetSmith900]

She has lawyers helping her. They probably told her all of this. They are advisory attorneys.

[@Melissa-xb1vf]

​@@JanetSmith900 yeah, but... it's lori. She definitely believes chad came through a portal and is in her makeshift electrical tape wedding ring she has on 😅

[@Girlytang]

And myriads of angels, too! lol that’s very funny!

[@montanalilac]

she bounces around from being a semi professional to a whiny complainer.

[@maxbang1813]

She "knew her kids were happy, and safe"..... Until her jury didn't believe her.

[@debrastarr5083]

She is the gift that keeps on giving

[@gretarobinson1142]

I cant imagine this circus happening outside the U.S.

[@sevenitta-_-]

It’s a disgrace that this subhuman who has been convicted of double child murder can stand up in court and make. a mockery of our justice system systems. Peter please I know you’re never biased but please please please understand you can be biased towards this pos.

[@LisaLoni]

Ted Bundy represented himself too

[@ColorMeShell]

I tried to watch for at least 5 minutes. But, I just can’t with her 🙄

[@CD-ee9um]

So LVD has graduated from serial killer to a defense attorney. So she thinks. 🤡

[@leannec9669]

lol a bit Ted Bundyish hey?

[@BostonEsq]

Her name IS Vallow NOT Daybell.

[@ravenrozeb3790]

@@BostonEsq Actually, she is married to Chad Daybell!!

[@BostonEsq]

@ravenrozeb3790 That has nothing to do with her name. I have been an attorney for 40 years, and getting married does NOT change your name. She never legally changed her name. You can ONLY be convicted, and sentenced and incarcerated under your legal name, and she IS inmate Vallow in both jail and prison. Her name IS Vallow NOT Daybell.

[@CD-ee9um]

@ whatever! She’s still a psycho serial killer

[@lindseystein9676]

As a layman/no experience as a lawyer, it sounds like she may just be unhappy with the fact that there’s likely only circumstantial evidence. That can be enough to convict people in many cases, though…

[@aprilkepler1702]

Thank you, Peter! 👍🏾

[@lorijane9265]

Why does she need a court trial when she can just ascend into heaven?

[@ricaug50]

😂😂😂

[@grazful1]

blaaaahhh 😂😂😂

[@MariaL1089]

She is shaking her shackled foot back-and-forth like it’s just another day in court. LAH LAH LAH LAH!

[@YkuzIcan]

I think that's her real nerves giving her away. She's not as calm and confident as she seems, and her poker face is flawed.

[@loricoyle5755]

@@YkuzIcanher face is indeed flawed

[@toribern419]

@@YkuzIcanyes I think that’s probably true.

[@ChiquitaBanana-si5qq]

I almost feel sorry for her. She still thinks she can twist things and come out looking ok. I think we got a preview of her strategy, in how she blamed Tylee, to Colby; re JJ. It’s all so sad. I think she was, at least somewhat, delusional; however I don’t think Charles was her first victim & there would have been more. The people around her aren’t safe, if she’s ever on the streets. (Especially Colby & his family.). Poor Colby

[@Melissa-xb1vf]

I agree with everything you said except your first statement. Lol. Good thing you said "almost" because holy shit, this woman should have NOBODY feeling sorry for her. So so so many victims in her wake.

[@Munjajane]

Good thing is. She will never be on the streets again !

[@catasrophieGrrl]

She's going to blame Tylee, just like she blamed Tylee for what happened to her and JJ, and Lori herself. I don't know if I can watch her do that. I don't really hate defendants. I usually have a lot of compassion. But Lori drives me bonkers. Please, Lori, just shushhh.

[@KatyWithAWhyyy]

I was surprised by her presentation in this hearing. That said we may be used to the Sarah Boone of it all 😆

[@MildredCady]

I don’t remember if she/Chad had a sovereign citizen phase. If so, she’d be a little more used to looking at, citing,, and misinterpreting, law.

[@Katrina-qs2rl]

I was too. She seems, as crazy as her beliefs are, to be naturally smart. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that she never went to college.

[@jawiegan1]

Funny because I think her voice is very similar to Boones. But she sounds SO much more intelligent 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@THXx1138]

​@@Katrina-qs2rlShe has actual attorneys assisting her. She isn't smart.

[@crashwatson7844]

It is mind boggling how confident she is.

[@SGP1963]

I watched her yesterday. She speaks assertively but seems her argument about not receiving evidence fell flat.

[@GirlLearningTheWorld]

💯 Just because you can articulate a statement e doesn’t mean you have good strategic skills

[@SGP1963]

@ of course. Thats the case with most trials

[@debibeukes9044]

She's trying to whitewash, but the grand jury had a different take.

[@lesliesteadman9134]

Her voice is like nails on a chalkboard. First time she is louder than TLYK 😂

[@megmeyer7563]

She still doesn't think she did anything wrong😊

[@joes6108]

She's surprisingly sharp. It was never a question of intelligence with her though it's common for evil psychopaths to be very bright.

[@toribern419]

Really? I thought she sounded ridiculous

[@THXx1138]

She isn't. The attorneys are doing the work.

[@jimmergel8279]

It's fascinating to listen to a psychopath try and manipulate other humans. She deserves her fate but we can also learn about the condition.

[@mazamita05]

Yay...been looking forward to this the whole day...Hello from Mizoram, India

[@toribern419]

It’s funny to me that someone in India is aware and watching the Daybell drama. Unless you’re there visiting and you’re an American???? I’m just curious. 🧐

[@mazamita05]

@toribern816 I am in India but has been following the trial from the very first day. It is an interesting one, I think, of how people psyche can be so varied!!

[@nancysangma615]

Watching from Meghalaya 😊 ​@@mazamita05

[@toribern419]

@@mazamita05 yes it is an interesting case… I can understand that. Hello from Chicago 🤍

[@arlenefisher1164]

God bless India.

[@janetwale1019]

I believe her only motivation is that she is LONGING to have those law enforcement agents on the stand, I think that will be her hour of glory, she is going to want to drill them and her contempt for them will be in her words and questions. Her area of focus is on the people who caught her, not the loss of all those family members. The woman is a total fraud! Peter - greetings from Zimbabwe

[@Munjajane]

Oh true. She’s so wants to get in their face.

[@LoveKittiesLoveDoggos]

I just saw Delphi trial’s defence lawyers of Richard Allen including Andrew Baldwin, Bradley Rossi and Jennifer Auger are doing interviews with the news channel and Lawyer Lee’s channel, I hope Peter can interview them as well to spread the word for them please!!!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@raiders7294]

Spread the word? Richard Allen is Bridge Guy. He's guilty. Guilty. That's the word. Learn it.

[@heavymetalrehab]

​@@raiders7294you do realize that the state never established that bridge guy was the one that committed the actual crime?

[@LoveKittiesLoveDoggos]

@@raiders7294Richard Allen is innocent! I am in Canada and even Canadians know he is innocent. For some of you in the US that still think he is guilty, I don’t know what have u been smoking! 😒

[@LoveKittiesLoveDoggos]

@@heavymetalrehabExactly! U are right! Also they have not proved bridge guy was the guy that said “Down the hill!” I always think there’s a group of ppl who did this and the guy that said “Down the hill” might not be bridge guy!

[@raiders7294]

​@@LoveKittiesLoveDoggos What does being in Canada have to do with anything? That busted logic already shows me what I'm dealing with. Pass. Have fun with ignorance.

[@SpitefulPelican]

It's easy to argue when you're crazy peter. It's not impressive

[@SilkyShish]

I can't wait to hear your analysis and whether you think she is doing a competent job representing herself.

[@88keys65]

What I'm most curious about is when she loses this case and the jury takes less than 2 hours to reach a guilty verdict will she still be so eager to go pro se in trial number 2

[@DeweyLovesDuckies]

This is actually trial 2 (or 3?). She will always try to be in charge and in the spotlight. Always. She doesn’t have that kind of judgment.

[@88keys65]

@DeweyLovesDuckies Sure, I agree, but this is her first pro se trial which is what I was referring to

[@mardyross2838]

I understood you, ​@@88keys65

[@kieraaaaaaaaaa]

Yeah, she adores the spotlight so she'll be biting at the opportunity for a repeat. She knows that it ultimately doesn't matter, she's just trying to eek out every bit of media attention she can get before it's all over.

[@Amontillado72]

It is just some change for her and not as boring as jail life. She knows that she will take her last breath behind bars.

[@samanthabraddy4422]

This trial is going to be interesting. I wish Sarah Boone would have gotten herself together like this. I’m shocked at how well spoken & honestly - educated Lauri appeared to be.

[@brijeet8553]

Lori has side counsel.

[@Amontillado72]

She did some evil stuff however she is not dumb so I am not surprised. Trial will be entertaining

[@marcetadietz1776]

She’s so impressed herself.

[@LillysConner]

People like her are able to articulate bull 💩 with dose of grandiose and make it sound so eloquent to impress that you forget the level of evil they can unleash. She’s on cloud 9 with all the attention as she builds herself to be the victim.

[@Munjajane]

Remember that one witness who said Lori threatened to kill her? Can you imagine her saying that in that smart Alec condescending voice - just like when she turned on Melanie Gonna phone call when she got mad then hung up. That sweet voice can drip with venom at the drop of a hat.

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Great show as always Peter 🙏

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[@asheburypress882]

She did beauty pageants, so she has practiced quick response word salad… just waiting for her to throw in world peace.

[@cherylgarretson3441]

Lori does sound confident.. more confident than her original counsel that sounded like she was gonna break down in tears at any minute

[@wynterhardy9]

The defense helper is a nervous mess