Layla Shield Strength Comparison | Genshin Impact

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midamishi

midamishi

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@midamishi
@midamishi 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the game have no 3 star, 4 star sword with %HP and I don't have Nilou Signature or Jade Cutter too. Layla Shield will be more stronger with them. Anyway, thanks for clicking the video. Have a nice day!
@alteragosagin4211
@alteragosagin4211 2 жыл бұрын
Travellers handy sword give some Hp if I recall correctly (red 3* sword)
@verzetta
@verzetta 2 жыл бұрын
@@alteragosagin4211 It's Def% unfortunately.. Perhaps you've mistaken its passive as the mainstat (Each elemental particles collected restores 2% hp)
@alteragosagin4211
@alteragosagin4211 2 жыл бұрын
@@verzetta oh, probably well thats sad, thanks for the correction
@valenrn8657
@valenrn8657 2 жыл бұрын
For Layla, the 5-star Summit Shaper R2 sword can increase shield strength by 25%. Summit Shaper R5 sword can increase shield strength by 40% My Summit Shaper R2 sword wasn't used until Layla was released. I have two Mistsplitter Reforge R1 and one Aquila Favonia R1 swords.
@yanfei6503
@yanfei6503 2 жыл бұрын
​@@valenrn8657 sadly the shield strenght is for the person that uses the sword only , not for others
@jomertomale
@jomertomale 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for teaching how to properly use Thoma's shield
@Geppaku
@Geppaku 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, people just don't know how to use it, and later they call it "bad"
@nae5485-n5j
@nae5485-n5j 2 жыл бұрын
@@Geppaku the pb is that if you build thomas like in this video (full HP) you dont have enough ER to make the full combo with his ult. So in real fight you will not be abble to have the full stacks. In real you have to put a er weapon or sand of time (so you have less HP).
@john-paulnguyen8829
@john-paulnguyen8829 2 жыл бұрын
Just put favonious lance on him it solves most of his energy problems and gives particles for the rest of team and his shield is still strongest or second strongest and he's been doing perfectly fine for me (zhongli still stronger cause he has utility outside of his shield and is a 5* tho obviously)
@tuhalu4123
@tuhalu4123 2 жыл бұрын
@@john-paulnguyen8829 Zhongli is Geo, which makes his shields better in more situations. Especially this one where geo get 150% reduction and every other element gets 100% reduction only.
@ittobeingamood
@ittobeingamood 2 жыл бұрын
@@nae5485-n5j The thing about that is their substat is not even that amazing... Especially with a Shield bot Thoma you don't have to focus that much on Atk sub and Crit like what their build is. The way is HP and ER priority, crit doesn't matter that much. With HP all main and good ER substat it is possible to do that. Also, just to note, replacing black tassel with ER weapon (for me I use Kitain for Burgeon) will not yield that much of a significant difference especially since you refresh it as you stack (while you use NA).
@lacvej
@lacvej 2 жыл бұрын
Layla : 11 hit Xinyan : 8 hit Diona : 9 hit Yanfei : 10 hit Noelle : 13 hit Thoma skill : 5 hit Thoma full stack : 15 hit Zhongli: 16 hit
@killuazoldick6315
@killuazoldick6315 2 жыл бұрын
Thoma Skill: 5 hit Xinyan: 8 hit Diona: 9 hit Yanfei: 10 hit Layla: 11 hit Noelle: 13 hit (3rd place) Thoma full stack: 15 hit (2nd place) Zhongli: 16 hit (1st place)
@Blackoutdmc
@Blackoutdmc 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading a comment about why they didn't include Noelle in the showcase. Said it was because her shield is "nonexistent". So that was a lie.
@swordofjustice7444
@swordofjustice7444 2 жыл бұрын
@@Blackoutdmc it’s a lot more inconsistent than the others, her shield has a 50% uptime while the others have 70%+ uptime so they’re usually still more effective
@f.b.l.9813
@f.b.l.9813 2 жыл бұрын
this is really surprising, I've always thought Diona had the 2nd strongest... at least that's how it feels on my characters, but then again, I don't have Thoma and Yanfei built....
@stoink_6056
@stoink_6056 2 жыл бұрын
So glad she was strong but kinda expected since all cryo character are quite solid itself. Maybe a sign why snezhnaya is the last region we are going in teyvat. Cryo archon gonna be op af
@toolazytoholdagrudge1148
@toolazytoholdagrudge1148 2 жыл бұрын
Y'all are forgetting that her shield uptime is technically 100% unlike the other shielders except Zhongli and the fact that there is no accessible hp% sword in the game aside from Key of Khaj so her shield still has a lot of potential and yet it's this strong already.
@junconglin
@junconglin 2 жыл бұрын
Thoma?
@toolazytoholdagrudge1148
@toolazytoholdagrudge1148 2 жыл бұрын
@@junconglin relies too much on his high 80 cost burst for shield stacking and without it his shield uptime is incomparable to Layla's
@junconglin
@junconglin 2 жыл бұрын
@@toolazytoholdagrudge1148 fav lance and cons?
@eg-draw
@eg-draw 2 жыл бұрын
Diona uses no hp weapon too
@TearsOfHeroin
@TearsOfHeroin 2 жыл бұрын
Well there is a shield buff sword
@tsvndere
@tsvndere 2 жыл бұрын
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO USES THOMA'S SHIELD CORRECTLY he slayed
@theroitero2234
@theroitero2234 2 жыл бұрын
Ate and left no crumbs 💋
@wilburforce8046
@wilburforce8046 2 жыл бұрын
He still sucks wdym. Man’s gotta use a high cost burst to keep up where as the other four star sheilders actually bring something to the table that Zhongli doesn’t.
@theroitero2234
@theroitero2234 2 жыл бұрын
@@wilburforce8046 n o 💋
@gegie10
@gegie10 2 жыл бұрын
@@wilburforce8046 hater always hate
@wilburforce8046
@wilburforce8046 2 жыл бұрын
@@gegie10 nah I’m being realistic. Our body deserved better then to be so copium. I’ve had enough of Mihoyo making whole character kits confusingly bad. Why can’t our boy Thoma be actually good.
@Idlccnt
@Idlccnt 2 жыл бұрын
What’s great about Layla’s shield is that the duration and CD of the shield is the same so u can just reapply it constantly.
@richardomilos8686
@richardomilos8686 2 жыл бұрын
Zhongli shield lasts 20 seconds with a 12 second cooldown but it is still impressive for a 4 star.
@SayokoNeeeeeee
@SayokoNeeeeeee Жыл бұрын
@@richardomilos8686 it's almost as if 5 star is better than 4 star. Such insight.
@richardomilos8686
@richardomilos8686 Жыл бұрын
@@SayokoNeeeeeee its not always the case. Bennett is better than most 5* s. xingqui is on equal terms with yelan. Being a 4* doesnt mean you are a direct downgrade.
@SayokoNeeeeeee
@SayokoNeeeeeee Жыл бұрын
@@richardomilos8686 hell no Xinq is better than yelan lmao. Pure damage and hydro application Yelan is better. She's the 5 star Xinq and a decent built Yelan deals more damage than high built Xinq with c6 cons. I have c6 Xinq and I transferred his build to Yelan when I got her and she deals more as level 80 rn despite Xinq being in 90. Cope harder. As for Benett, he's a buffer, he fulfills different role and even as a healer Kokomi beats him. People use him for his buffs and not his heals, and the reason he is the best right now is beceuse he has no 5 star competition and Sara is just Benett for Raiden anyway, but just wait for his 5 star competition and I assure you he'll be the next Xinq.
@SayokoNeeeeeee
@SayokoNeeeeeee Жыл бұрын
@@richardomilos8686 oh did I mention she buffs her allies' damage? Yeah Xinq doesn't have that lmao and his damage resistance is irrelevant in late game anyway.
@dariosaviors
@dariosaviors 2 жыл бұрын
Layla could’ve been a great first Cryo Catalyst, running TTDS or Prototype Amber. But obviously Hoyo know exactly what they’re doing.
@ilyysm
@ilyysm 2 жыл бұрын
plus shes a student so a book would make more sense than a sword
@genshinmonaria1551
@genshinmonaria1551 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think we'll ever get a cryo catalyst, it'd make freeze teams waayyy too easy 😂 they know that
@lg.-
@lg.- 2 жыл бұрын
@@genshinmonaria1551 Ayaka was the compromise
@minami_uuu
@minami_uuu 2 жыл бұрын
@@genshinmonaria1551 maybe they gonna make us wait till cryo archon 💀✋
@Allylene
@Allylene 2 жыл бұрын
@@minami_uuu cryo archon is a polearm user, it's confirmed in ventis story
@tamagotchiz6853
@tamagotchiz6853 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget that Zhongli and Leyla can use “4-piece artifact of Tenacity set” effectively Tenacity Set Effects : 2-Piece: HP +20% 4-Piece: When an Elemental Skill hits an opponent, the ATK of all nearby party members is increased by 20% and their Shield Strength is increased by 30% for 3s. This effect can be triggered once every 0.5s. This effect can still be triggered even when the character who is using this artifact set is not on the field. Moreover, both of them Zhongli and Leyla have 100% uptime for E skill that means they are able to efficiently trigger buff from the Tenacity set all the time, so the best shielders could be : 1st is Zhongli , 2nd is Leyla
@garagara4849
@garagara4849 2 жыл бұрын
Edit: Since new people show up to the reply section, I stand corrected and the following is fake news. Have a great day everyone ^^ Actually, the shield strenght bonus only applies when Leyla or Zhongli is on the field. The buff is gone when switching to another character (4-Piece bonus)
@tamagotchiz6853
@tamagotchiz6853 2 жыл бұрын
@@garagara4849 4-piece bonus of Tenacity , Effects can be triggered even when the character who is using the artifact set is not on the field.
@reversethepolarityoftheneu773
@reversethepolarityoftheneu773 2 жыл бұрын
@@garagara4849 no that is how the 2 piece bonus of retracing bolide works, tenacity of the millileth specifically states that it works off field as long as their elemental skill is still hitting opponents
@samirSch
@samirSch 2 жыл бұрын
@@garagara4849 NEIN! The effect works everytime E hits an enemy, but it only lasts 3s. In John Lee's case it's his pilar with small AoE which can't be deployed in some areas. Align that to my 150 mS latency and I'm not sure if I should use Millelith 4p or Archaic 4p since the bonus on Archaic at least last 10s.
@garagara4849
@garagara4849 2 жыл бұрын
@@reversethepolarityoftheneu773 Ooooh I was confused then! Thank you everyone, I'll remember that next time ^^
@alessharu3634
@alessharu3634 2 жыл бұрын
Now all we need is Keaya's con 4 sheild, Beidou shield and Noelle's passive shield
@minhtrieu2204
@minhtrieu2204 2 жыл бұрын
Candace has left the chat
@jakebentley8105
@jakebentley8105 2 жыл бұрын
@@minhtrieu2204 lol! I honestly didn't even think about her.
@alinee7698
@alinee7698 2 жыл бұрын
@@minhtrieu2204 nah bc she can literally stop everything with her e, she is not like the others shielder at all
@minhtrieu2204
@minhtrieu2204 2 жыл бұрын
@@alinee7698 not really , her shield durability base on her HP% so it has a limit too , you can check it on her talent .
@alinee7698
@alinee7698 2 жыл бұрын
@@minhtrieu2204 yes but what im trying to say is that she doesnt have the same shield as the other characters- zhongli for example, his shield is around him for 20s~. Candace only has it when you hold her e
@youraveragetalkingpotato7963
@youraveragetalkingpotato7963 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Noelle's passive shield be compared with the others
@chercherri
@chercherri 2 жыл бұрын
noelles passive saved me too many times early game
@isaangjim
@isaangjim 2 жыл бұрын
And also imagine if he stacked the claymore... Etc... So many possibilities 😍😍😍
@caseylp7121
@caseylp7121 2 жыл бұрын
Passive shield? I'm a little new to the game so I don't know about this
@chercherri
@chercherri 2 жыл бұрын
@@caseylp7121 once you ascend a character to level 70+ you will unlock a passive ability these passive abilities are listed at the talents screen
@chercherri
@chercherri 2 жыл бұрын
Too add more there are three passive talents for each character
@andrewbruno7261
@andrewbruno7261 2 жыл бұрын
0:49 the sync 🍷
@ALEXMARTINEZ-dz7so
@ALEXMARTINEZ-dz7so 2 жыл бұрын
Now I'm curious to see Beidou's shield added to the mix. Not that I expect her to win ofc, but it would be fun to compare it to the rest of characters ^^
@Teekls
@Teekls 2 жыл бұрын
Yess i was so sad when i didnt see beidou
@lovelyKoyko
@lovelyKoyko 2 жыл бұрын
@@Teekls same here, i wanted to see beidou's shield
@thelobotomobile
@thelobotomobile 2 жыл бұрын
And kaeya's shield!
@zelapatura
@zelapatura 2 жыл бұрын
Kaeya's shield only appear when he's low hp so it's kinda hard to showcase his shield with traveler
@WastedTalent83
@WastedTalent83 Жыл бұрын
you meant to say , beidou, Yunjin, and Candace?XD they are all counters but also work as shields. I honestly never saw my Yunjin get any damage while holding her E while both Beidoe and Candace usually get damaged instead, if the damage is big of course.
@gamerwolfKO
@gamerwolfKO 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy how good Noelle is considering that she’s available to everyone. Nothing like a character than can be a defensive tank dps healer. To bad I don’t need her most of the time with Benny and Xiangling. One day I will have Yun Jin to complete my mono-geo team.
@Kaiji...
@Kaiji... 2 жыл бұрын
I exclusively use mono geo Noelle and she destroys everything. I can't wait till next banner for C6 Gorou so I can make my crit damage 219% (for reference my highest crit rn was a 78k Shield Bomb & like a 60k+ Albedo flower plunge attack, normal 4th attack hits about 42k). I've even considered making a Lv90 Favonious GS and soloing everything with Noelle. This is with Gorou & Yunjin talents at 8 and C0 too.
@PineappleLiar
@PineappleLiar 2 жыл бұрын
It makes sense that Noelle is the one freebie wish char given she can play so many roles for an early player’s team. Need dps? She can do that! Need healing/shields? Got both! Need someone to take all the def scaling artifacts? Boy do I have good news for you!
@cunnyman
@cunnyman 2 жыл бұрын
Her skill generating zero energy is her biggest issue.
@ArnoldFrost
@ArnoldFrost 2 жыл бұрын
@@cunnyman considering her unique tech that is maintaining infusion on swap (shared with both Diluc and Keqing) + the ability to extend her burst to the max 10 seconds at C6 with a little bit of quickswap magic, a bit of practice can heavily mitigate her needs. It's also not like she's short on battery units that go well with her (since defensive utility of her supports matter less as she already has those)
@NoNameCherry
@NoNameCherry 2 жыл бұрын
Try a Tri-Geo + 1 Healer/Other Element if you have it. The one I use currently is Zhongli/Itto/Ning/Noelle (a combination of two) + Gorou + Kuki. It's really fun. Especially after my Noelle and Gorou both hit C6 thanks to the last updates.
@uncaringbear
@uncaringbear 2 жыл бұрын
I think Mihoyo did a good job getting the shield archetype right in this game. There's a fair number of characters with shielding capability but each one of them feels unique and their overall kits have plenty of positives and negatives to ensure that choosing one over another is rarely a black and white decision.
@WastedTalent83
@WastedTalent83 Жыл бұрын
for most shield i agree, but geo will ALWAYS be the stronger shield simply because the nature of the element absorbing ALL attacks and not only the elemental one.
@alice0795
@alice0795 Жыл бұрын
We need a shield hp bar somewhere
@dhfiwxjf
@dhfiwxjf Жыл бұрын
Yea every character is pretty balanced in terms of shields (except for zhongli)
@yehriot
@yehriot Жыл бұрын
​@@alice0795 fr that will be so helpful
@ducphat636
@ducphat636 Жыл бұрын
@@dhfiwxjf hes the geo archon so his shield being the strongest make senses tho
@specs2328
@specs2328 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda surprised zhongli shield shattered since it has additional res and additional shield strength gain when it takes damage
@hashtunr4952
@hashtunr4952 2 жыл бұрын
These Ruin Guard missiles are no joke, though. The fact that Layla could tank 11 and Thoma when fully-stacked tanked 15 hits are quite a testament of their strength.
@na_umnichah
@na_umnichah 2 жыл бұрын
Need 10 talent to stay this
@kaede_ide
@kaede_ide 2 жыл бұрын
@@na_umnichah i was about to say that
@saahil0855
@saahil0855 2 жыл бұрын
Nope my Zhongli is 59K HP with E at 10 he manages it easily..!!!
@Dravis1995
@Dravis1995 2 жыл бұрын
Most likely because it was talent lv 8. With level 10 talents and this much hp...there are very few things capable of breaking his shield.
@pattdiy4283
@pattdiy4283 2 жыл бұрын
Love layla's shield pretty much 100% uptime and the full tenacity set is just meant for her
@FluffyWaffle33
@FluffyWaffle33 2 жыл бұрын
Reminder to everyone this is just a very basic and general test, there are many ways to strenghten shields such as the hydro resonance, geo resonance, any damage reduction, DEF boost etc
@erasedsilence
@erasedsilence 2 жыл бұрын
Using tenacity 4pc passive also increases shield strength
@kusanagi-no-tachi5303
@kusanagi-no-tachi5303 2 жыл бұрын
@@erasedsilence Damn, 2 years and still many people think Shield Strength is good. It's not. It's practically useless. It doesn't work the same way Healing Effectiveness does.
@FluffyWaffle33
@FluffyWaffle33 2 жыл бұрын
@@kusanagi-no-tachi5303 chill out bro, nobody has said a single thing about it being good or bad, it's just a matter of fact. Healing effectiveness only works for healers + a special case for Kokomi and it has nothing to do with shields at all, if you want to give your opinion on the value of shields, post it on the comment section, not on a reply of another random comment that has nothing to do with it.
@kusanagi-no-tachi5303
@kusanagi-no-tachi5303 2 жыл бұрын
@@FluffyWaffle33 What? I'm not saying Healing Effectiveness affects shield, I'm saying Shield Strength does not work *the same way* Healing Effectiveness does. In other words, in much simpler terms, in case you still don't understand, Healing Effectiveness increases a healer's heal while Shield Strength *does not* increases a shielder's shield.
@bakasta2610
@bakasta2610 2 жыл бұрын
@@kusanagi-no-tachi5303 bro.. shield gives you resistance to interruption which you need to make the most of your dmg
@zaxsantos2453
@zaxsantos2453 2 жыл бұрын
Great work always man. Simple showcase and analysis.
@Zalouswyd
@Zalouswyd 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t know thoma shield was that strong
@reed3863
@reed3863 2 жыл бұрын
It's really strong if you don't take damage for a long time. But in the usual case of being negligent after having a shield up, his shield easily breaks after a few hits with just few stacks.
@trendmadegamer8725
@trendmadegamer8725 2 жыл бұрын
@@reed3863 was gonna say that lol
@Carbuncle0168
@Carbuncle0168 2 жыл бұрын
@@reed3863 hard to set-up useless
@Kindi001
@Kindi001 2 жыл бұрын
its kinda hard to stack with. even with hutao that usually do 2 normal hit then charge attack rarely get hit. probally you will feel it if playing burgeon thoma
@cigarafterkiss
@cigarafterkiss 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kindi001hes a good to pair with yoimiya, constantly stacking his sheild
@bighoodie4315
@bighoodie4315 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see kaeya and noelles passive shields in the mix, even if they'd be super weak. And beidous burst!
@ArnoldFrost
@ArnoldFrost 2 жыл бұрын
Noelle's passive shield is beefier than her regular shield though
@iknow007
@iknow007 2 жыл бұрын
Noelle's passive shield strength is 400% of her defence. **400%**
@Palsa-Achilleus
@Palsa-Achilleus 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't even leveled up any of Layla's artifacts yet, and my growth team, which is randomly thrown together (for gaining friendship points) takes no damage at all. You just have to time you're rotations right. A pretty fun team to use her with is Yae, Candace and Nilou. Start with Layla's shield skill, switch to Yae and use her skill around the enemies, switch to Candace and bop the group with her shield skill, then finish up with Nilou, switching back to Layla as soon as the shield drops, if done correctly you'll never take a hit.
@WastedTalent83
@WastedTalent83 Жыл бұрын
sound like a for fun team, but not much a dps oriented one XD unless you have insane artifacts on all of your char ^^
@tuhalu4123
@tuhalu4123 2 жыл бұрын
So a solid shield, even without C3 (I estimate it would soak 2 more hits). And when a good HP sword is available for her, you could maybe soak another 1 or 2 more. Which would put her on par or above Noelle and full stack Thoma. But she'd be easier to keep a shield up than Thoma and easier than anyone but Zhongli to keep 100% uptime on.
@andrerojas1237
@andrerojas1237 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, right now you either go harbinger of dawn ( bruh), favonius ( if you manage to hit the enemy with the shield cast) or key of kaj... Not that good. Hopefully fontain can bring home an hp party buffer sword.
@larsblazing9984
@larsblazing9984 2 жыл бұрын
most of playerbase mocked thoma shield but if u see he is the second strongest shield in game (with stacking)
@larsblazing9984
@larsblazing9984 2 жыл бұрын
shield strenght lol
@kimnamjoon3943
@kimnamjoon3943 2 жыл бұрын
He does have the second strongest shield, TCs knew it since the start. But it's a shame bec you need very high ER on him to consistently shield
@WastedTalent83
@WastedTalent83 Жыл бұрын
which is basically garbage knowledge XD because in a normal fight, you're no gonna have the chance to stack that much while enemies attack and you switch characters to use skills. It is a good shield when stacked but most of the time, you just don't have the time, to add all those stacks.
@Airlinecuisine
@Airlinecuisine Жыл бұрын
@@WastedTalent83 you dont need to swap characters to stack his shield i use thoma so i can explain. u use his burst u use his skill then u swap to ur main dps as long as your main dps uses normal attacks like ayato or wanderer or alhaitham or even raiden shogun those normal attacks will stack his shield also you do not need to stack thomas shields, if thoma shield breaks and your active character uses a normal attack and thoma burst is still up it will apply a new shield ( a weaker shield but a shield) so his shields best benefit is that it is constantly being refreshed as long as normal attacks are being used i use him with both ayato and wanderer and they take no damage in abyss floor 12. and i use nobelesse on him not even shield str artifacts. the biggest downside to thoma is he doesnt do alot of offfield damage but his shield is very good. (and at c6 he gives a 15% atk boost when his shield is refreshed which is everytime a normal attack goes out) i feel like a majority of the community doesnt understand how thoma kit works or they just want to shit on him cause its a meme.
@TheGelieace
@TheGelieace Жыл бұрын
@@WastedTalent83 skill issue
@cuochi
@cuochi 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget, you can use Noelle ult with shield, and it can take more damage.
@PerkyPyra
@PerkyPyra 2 жыл бұрын
Noelle's burst doesn't increase the strength of her shields. It adds her defense stat to her attack stat to increase the strength of her normals. It will increase the damage the shield deals when it explodes since the defense stat will embellish the attack stat for the shield break's 400% potency to pull from, but it will not increase the amount of damage the shield could take to begin with. What you may be thinking of is that when Sweeping Time and Breastplate are both active, the chance of Noelle's normal attacks resulting in a heal for the party increases from 50-60% to 100%. This would not effect the shield's damage absorption.
@chloeprice8584
@chloeprice8584 2 жыл бұрын
@@PerkyPyra i think they are talking about i-frames but they don't know every character can do that.
@soran_skies
@soran_skies Жыл бұрын
@@chloeprice8584 I doubt that, they probably think her burst increases shield strength, or talking about the addition of its healing, who knows lol
@shadowpriest2574
@shadowpriest2574 Жыл бұрын
It does not. What you are thinking about is Noelle with her own shield, probably meaning that its not the shield that can take more as much as Noelle taking WAY less due to her defense stat itself.
@lnsflare1
@lnsflare1 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you are thinking about her passive, which procs a shield with 400% of her own Defense in her allies when their health gets too low?
@SeohnAranys
@SeohnAranys 2 жыл бұрын
The other important thing to keep in mind is uptime on the shield. Zhongli has the best shield in terms of strength there is no doubt of that. But what makes it even better is that it also reduces enemy resistances and you can reapply it before its timer runs out. While I haven't tested all the other character's shields. I definitely feel like Layla might have the second-best shield. Its cooldown timer is 12 seconds and the shield last for 12 seconds. So you could keep it up indefinitely assuming you don't take more damage than it can handle.
@taallen1686
@taallen1686 2 жыл бұрын
But are we not gonna talk about the beat drop with Xinyan burst? It was amazing
@cordroush9075
@cordroush9075 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sayin like!!!
@Paymon_-
@Paymon_- Жыл бұрын
Yes, still using her till now since 1.3
@violattecup
@violattecup 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very disappointed to see that nobody paid attention to the way the background music perfectly matched Xinyan's burst at 0:50
@jbloam7788
@jbloam7788 Жыл бұрын
I have been scrolling just to find this comment. Yes it is extremely satisfying :ooooo
@thegrinningreaperr
@thegrinningreaperr 2 жыл бұрын
Me who has Layla, Thoma, Zhongli, and a Jean: I'm invincible.
@thegrinningreaperr
@thegrinningreaperr 2 жыл бұрын
I also main Thoma so ehehehh.
@Spellbook
@Spellbook 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is a joke but for people that is thinking about it, careful shields take damage all the same time.
@thegrinningreaperr
@thegrinningreaperr 2 жыл бұрын
@@Spellbook lmao yeah. But it is only my temporary team. I typically have Cyno, Jean, Thoma, and Zhongli. (Yes it's an odd team)
@manoharalisa5829
@manoharalisa5829 Жыл бұрын
@@thegrinningreaperr I'm usimg the flowers team.. why I named my team flowers? Because they can unleash a flowers skill.. like Ayaka deals frozen sakura petals burst.. Yae deals thunder sakura petals. And two other.
@thegrinningreaperr
@thegrinningreaperr Жыл бұрын
@@manoharalisa5829 That actually sounds really cool.
@asterxzr
@asterxzr 2 жыл бұрын
Yanfei was hit by fire when she used her burst so maybe she could have taken 11 hits but it may be smaller percentage for that to happen
@miguelpires7489
@miguelpires7489 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think the missiles count as pyro damge tho
@asterxzr
@asterxzr 2 жыл бұрын
No like she set grass on fire and the fire then hit her a few times
@miguelpires7489
@miguelpires7489 2 жыл бұрын
@@asterxzr now I get what u meant with your comment. I thought u said the missiles counted as pyro so she couldnt sustain that much. Still I dont think she would be able to tank 11 hits, because her shield has 250% efficience towards pyro dmg
@asterxzr
@asterxzr 2 жыл бұрын
Yea that’s true I was just sayin
@vikryarsana5081
@vikryarsana5081 2 жыл бұрын
But pyro shield have 250% resistance against pyro, so I don't think it's very significant impact also burning grass dmg is so small.
@SaiyanGamer95
@SaiyanGamer95 Жыл бұрын
2:35 What the heck even happened with the missiles fired from the Ruin Guard on the left?
@JohnnyIsHere_
@JohnnyIsHere_ 2 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget that Noelle comes to the rescue whenever your on- field character is about to die immediately casting a shield 😜
@redlok3455
@redlok3455 2 жыл бұрын
That suits her reputation as the "ever-so-reliable"-maid as well =)
@vikryarsana5081
@vikryarsana5081 2 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong. I think her shield will appear if your active character still alive after taking a hit in shield activation threshold, if the dmg high enough to kill your character even though you are in the threshold she just let you die but the shield will appear on the screen xD. This had happen to me so often. My poor Yanfei got caught so often.
@autofire55555
@autofire55555 2 жыл бұрын
@@vikryarsana5081 This is true, though the upside is that the emergency shield is way stronger than her normal one (IIRC). The downside is that its on a very long cooldown, so it should not be part of your game plan.
@PerkyPyra
@PerkyPyra 2 жыл бұрын
@@autofire55555 Yep! the Devotion shield absorbs 400% of Noelle's defense which is 20% more than even her crowned Breastplate shield protects for, and 100% more than the level 11 talent shown in this video!
@WastedTalent83
@WastedTalent83 Жыл бұрын
and her shield exploding does a crap ton of damage, wanna forget that?XD Noelle when C6 is a 6 star people don't want to admit.
@zerddrez235
@zerddrez235 Жыл бұрын
I got Layla today from the event, so happy to use her with Wanderer!! I wanted to pull for Thoma, bit why was he put on Klee/Eula banner instead in 3.8…. Well, Layla is great too, and I don‘t need to hit opponents for her shield to stay
@kamicokrolock
@kamicokrolock 2 жыл бұрын
I've swapped Layla in for Diona in my Heizou/Sucrose freeze team and TBH I like her better. The way her shield and burst apply additional cryo along side of Rosaria makes this team really powerful and fun to play while Diona was more a "I needed a second cryo who could generate energy not necessarily add to my damage potential" unit. Is she a replacement for Diona in my Ganyu freeze team? I don't know yet, but I have a suspicion that her kit is meant for the long awaited new 5 star former Harbinger we've been waiting for, coming out next patch.
@rae3429
@rae3429 2 жыл бұрын
Scaramouche is already getting a niche support for him. Her name is Faruzan.
@topkekkek2135
@topkekkek2135 2 жыл бұрын
Layla has literally 0 synergy with Scara
@hr6439
@hr6439 2 жыл бұрын
@@topkekkek2135 how do you know that?
@ArnoldFrost
@ArnoldFrost 2 жыл бұрын
Diona's also key to a Dragonstrike comp (thanks to the added movement speed of her shield), the comp where Diluc actually deals almost double the damage he normally does + has decent amounts of healing. It should be a decent payoff
@topkekkek2135
@topkekkek2135 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArnoldFrost Didn't they fix dragonstrike ages ago? Does it still work?
@tonybestyo
@tonybestyo Жыл бұрын
I switched to Layla for Zhongli as main shielder, tap is more convenient and saves time than holding. Moreover Layla's shield is great against cyro enemies, like Abyss mages or slimes, also hydro enemies get frozen when touched or by her stars, same applies for other mobs when another hydro unit is in the team. All in all, apart of shield strenght, It has many more aplications that help a lot.
@oyshikaadi9631
@oyshikaadi9631 Жыл бұрын
Zhongli shield is also effective against cryo enemies. Geo shields are 250% more effective against every single element.
@wobblestone3148
@wobblestone3148 Жыл бұрын
@@oyshikaadi9631 150%, why everyone gets this wrong
@Silver-rv9wc
@Silver-rv9wc 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing that he crown Layla skill
@Archive-AMZ
@Archive-AMZ 2 жыл бұрын
for talent level fairness, since other char have higher constellation. ec. Zhongli
@juliechoi4053
@juliechoi4053 Жыл бұрын
2:37 Where are you shootin' at, Mr. Cyclops?? lmaooo
@AbdoGamerXD
@AbdoGamerXD 2 жыл бұрын
2:36 Its missiles have gone to Celestia 😂
@Katsu-fi5ow
@Katsu-fi5ow Жыл бұрын
0:51 Thank you veery much for the sync :)
@justinw4901
@justinw4901 Жыл бұрын
Honestly very impressed with Yanfei considering that her shield is a perk from a constellation and not something built into her kit at c0.
@wescicleydasilva8424
@wescicleydasilva8424 2 жыл бұрын
Thoma junto com meu Ayato nunca decepciona, só quero a C6 dele
@pinguito1603
@pinguito1603 2 жыл бұрын
eu vi uma build meta que usa ele, xiquinho, a ninja e nahida de field DPS aparentemente é mt forte, tomara q thoma seja valorizado nesse meta
@gatchupost6062
@gatchupost6062 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw Zhongli, the competition was already over 😎
@felixvictoriano7747
@felixvictoriano7747 2 жыл бұрын
the music on this video got me dancin😂 nice vid, I like comparisons between characters
@juanc.machado7815
@juanc.machado7815 2 жыл бұрын
I think Yanfei's could've lasted more if You hadn't stepped on the fire, because in that the shield was also used
@oioioioioi994
@oioioioioi994 Жыл бұрын
You can see that it needed to tank 175 more damage to get to 11 hits. But since pyro shields have 250% resistance to pyro damage, the grass would have to do over 400 damage. Sadly meaning it wouldn't have had an effect.
@Thefelstalker
@Thefelstalker 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think this is a very good test, but I do really really like the editing and overall video.
@kirito-do3kt
@kirito-do3kt 2 жыл бұрын
Veryy nice video!! Straight to the point.
@crazyerzy75
@crazyerzy75 2 жыл бұрын
0:50 what a nice sync with the music though 😳😎
@CatsAreCoolFrr
@CatsAreCoolFrr Жыл бұрын
2:36 that left ruin guard over there-
@debu556
@debu556 Жыл бұрын
0:50 the timing w the music was ~mmm
@phenodrake3386
@phenodrake3386 2 жыл бұрын
correct me if I'm looking at this wrong, but was Yanfei's shield not stronger than Laylas? It looks to me like Layla's absorbs 10 hits whilst Yanfei took nearly 11 Both showed dmg ticks from 2 rockets (2 waves of 6 rocket, -2 = 10 hits fully tanked), but Yanfei had the 11th nearly full tanked too
@Mo0n_LighT965
@Mo0n_LighT965 2 жыл бұрын
Also might have to do with the fact that we currently don’t have a lot of hp scaling swords (aka we only have one which is a 5 star so if you didn’t get it you have like no alternatives) so in turn her shield is going to be weaker since we do have hp scaling catalysts.
@XpNeloxy
@XpNeloxy Жыл бұрын
2:35 What's wrong with that ruin guard on the left ? xD
@yutamido1088
@yutamido1088 2 жыл бұрын
diona can heal, provide energy particles, and boost em at c6 tho so she's generally a better support
@Abobus101
@Abobus101 2 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't need healing if Diona's shield wasn't crap 💀💀💀
@justadragonnamemarcus1751
@justadragonnamemarcus1751 2 жыл бұрын
@@Abobus101 in Abyss you need healing even with god like sheild ( specially for f2p )
@Mumahhad-Ali
@Mumahhad-Ali Жыл бұрын
what is he doing with thomas shield at 2:46
@rirules
@rirules 2 жыл бұрын
i love that you actually used thoma correctly and didnt just be like those narrow minded people who only want to think that thoma is weak and a bad sheileder
@WastedTalent83
@WastedTalent83 Жыл бұрын
you don't usually do 25 attack to strengthen the shield before entering a fight, so most of the time you're gonna use the shield without stack. Reason why people don't think much of his shield. You either kill enemies too fast, or the shield is not gonna last enough to do all those stacks without ever getting attacked , like in the video. I'm not saying its a bad shield, i don't think any character has a bad shield in this game, but probably it has too many gimmick linked to the "stronger" version of the shield, to be considered practical and strong.
@rirules
@rirules Жыл бұрын
@@WastedTalent83 as a thoma user, trust me, you do use all 25 stacks. even if you kill it quikcly, it doesnt matter. and if its a tankier boss or mob, the stacks come quick and help easy. (ofc they personally come quick for me bc i used swords and polearms, but they may be slower for claymores and bows. they just so happen to work well with my team)
@olexshevchenko6810
@olexshevchenko6810 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for showing thoma’s shield stacking 🙏🏻 and layla is awesome love her
@crimenarson5962
@crimenarson5962 2 жыл бұрын
I still think I’ll use Diona more since I’m a Razor main. She just allows Razor to be more reckless with both her shield and healing. I usually put more emphasis on her healing regardless. Though Layla seems pretty good
@ArnoldFrost
@ArnoldFrost 2 жыл бұрын
Diona offsets her shield strength with utility (upfront particles, heals, speed). Hell, I prefer Diona for Diluc because she helps in Dragonstrikes + her C6 gives a fat amount of EM for Diluc's melt damage to skyrocket
@cherrylary6236
@cherrylary6236 Жыл бұрын
3.35, the ruin guard on the left just Missed-!!! 😂😂😂
@clunkeys
@clunkeys Жыл бұрын
Adding to all the "don't forgets.." -- don't forget that Zhongli's shield skill was Lv. 8. Whereas, others were Lv. 11
@e.r.c.3717
@e.r.c.3717 Жыл бұрын
I used Layla and Paired her with Beidu. Laylas shield and Beidu's parry. But then I changed the tactics for tank build. In the end you can't trust shield in high level boss. So tank is the only option.
@puck1415
@puck1415 2 жыл бұрын
as a beidou main i see pathetic shield which don't hit back dmg from enemy P.S. nice video
@rans0mware
@rans0mware Жыл бұрын
This is nice and all but can we please address what in the 7 archons was the ruin guard on the left drinking? 2:35
@kavinbala8885
@kavinbala8885 2 жыл бұрын
i would like to note that zhongli and noelle also have easier access to geo resonance
@weltmonarchin823
@weltmonarchin823 2 жыл бұрын
nice vibey video :D I would also like to see ninguan in this
@sergimarch8874
@sergimarch8874 2 жыл бұрын
First video showing reallity of Zhongli continue being the best shielder of the game. I have no doubt of it. But I was a bit tired of click-bait videos saying: "Layla better shield than Zhongli?". So here it is the answer: NO. Thanks for this video!
@sunright20475
@sunright20475 2 жыл бұрын
He also continue to be the most useless 5 star either. Pulling 5 star just to cast a shield, lmao, lame xD
@itstruethough604
@itstruethough604 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, fuck off. He’s extremely useful for characters that can’t afford to get interruption or need to be low on HP like Xiao and Hu Tao respectively. Just because you suck at knowing how the game works or you busted your ass pulling shit 5 stars doesn’t mean anything. He’s an extremely flexible character that can be used on almost any team. I say this as someone who doesn’t have him and would love to have him with my Xiao and unfortunately won’t pull Hu Tao on her rerun (even though I absolutely love her) because my other teams perform better than these two characters without Zhongli.
@larsalexanderson4807
@larsalexanderson4807 2 жыл бұрын
@@sunright20475 lmao just say u lose 50-50 it's not that hurt lol
@Felix048
@Felix048 2 жыл бұрын
@@sunright20475 There's also some characters who need shields too, like Yoimiya, Ganyu, Tighnari, etc. Don't forget that Zhongli shreds nearby enemies' resistance too. The only problem Zhongli is facing right now is DPS loss (casting skill and burst takes time), lack of particle generation, and shield addiction (Zhongli users know this well).
@jayd8701
@jayd8701 2 жыл бұрын
@@sunright20475 longest shield in the game with universal shred attached, honey ;)
@himtendow6111
@himtendow6111 Жыл бұрын
Thank u for the video. I really needed ^^
@Kizen.
@Kizen. Жыл бұрын
This is a Layla with talent level 8. Not 11. This means that Layla should be able to take up to 13 hits minimum, and with a jade cutter or nilou's sig weapon, at least 15 hits
@otaku-chan4888
@otaku-chan4888 Жыл бұрын
Thing is, not everyone will want to level Layla's talent that high, or give her a 5 star weapon. Zhongli has value bc he does just fine without a crown, using a 3 star polearm.
@Kizen.
@Kizen. Жыл бұрын
@@otaku-chan4888 zhongli's also a 5 star unit... and can only be on ONE team in abyss
@Cristeve
@Cristeve 15 күн бұрын
Wait, do all shields get stronger if the character on field has a lot of defense??
@wirza555
@wirza555 2 жыл бұрын
Should stack Zhongli passive first tbh, 25% shield strength is good
@yadneshchaudhari4208
@yadneshchaudhari4208 Жыл бұрын
In four stars, If you want strongest shield with some healing, use Noelle (no Thomas doesn’t count cuz the high stack uptime is literally impractical) If you want great shield with atk support, use Layla with tenacity set If you want great shield with sub dps, use Thoma and beidou with >500 em (burgeon and aggravate) If you want ok shield with great healing, use Diona If you want all of the above, use C6 zhongli
@tecno_gamer4308
@tecno_gamer4308 Жыл бұрын
Noelle's shield is pretty underrated, i haven't saw many players use Noelle.
@Renaoo
@Renaoo Жыл бұрын
0:51 THIS WAS VERY SATISFACTORY
@atikahrahmahdini9003
@atikahrahmahdini9003 2 жыл бұрын
0:06 Sand, Main stat HP% Sub stat HP+1,344 😳 That's a lot for 1 artefact 😳
@MelodyWarp
@MelodyWarp 2 жыл бұрын
The Bell is out here waiting for an HP scaling claymore shield character so bad
@HoutarouOrekiii
@HoutarouOrekiii 2 жыл бұрын
layla e-skill 10th lvl 43k hp, zhongli e-skill 8th lvl 53k hp. Anyway zhongli's shield is the best among geo shields, and geo shields are far more better than other ones, so Zhongli solo's
@eternityjl6698
@eternityjl6698 2 жыл бұрын
Да , в то время как другие щиты могут хорошо поглощать урон от аналогичных элементов, у Чжун Ли нет такой проблемы , он урон от всех элементов поглощает одинаково.
@Miniiiaar
@Miniiiaar Жыл бұрын
He's literally geo and an Archon
@pranap789
@pranap789 Жыл бұрын
Layla actually blocked the same as Yanfei because 2 of the ruin guards shot you and 2 missiles hit after the shield broke and each ruin guard sends 6 so it’s 12 from 2 ruin guards and 2 missiles hit you if you can see the damage, also with thoma it’s actually 4 hits and the one with full stacks are actually 13 hits
@vennessa
@vennessa 2 жыл бұрын
Sempre soube que o escudo do Thoma é bom pq usei ele pra caramba antes de pegar o Zhongli
@vitormazoti9505
@vitormazoti9505 2 жыл бұрын
eu uso até hj quando o zhonli tá em outro time, consegui uma boa recarga pra ele ent só uso artefatos e armas de vida
@tsuyu5103
@tsuyu5103 2 жыл бұрын
i think the best thing in layla 's shield is that if you didn't break it you can make a new one when old shield had gone at the same time
@lunasquib
@lunasquib 2 жыл бұрын
Noelles shield is so strong but the uptime just sucks, Laylas is really good and her uptime is 100% but your rotations have to accommodate it While Zhonglis is literally the best already and has like 150% uptime
@WastedTalent83
@WastedTalent83 Жыл бұрын
5 star+Archon+ Chinese archon... kinda obvious he would have been the best shield ever in the game.
@BrianCarreraShaw
@BrianCarreraShaw Жыл бұрын
Noelle has a passive shield that's stronger than her E shield. But it's used as a counter measure when low in HP.
@I_am_Azeem
@I_am_Azeem 2 жыл бұрын
No one beat John in shield performance
@nelaepowt
@nelaepowt 2 жыл бұрын
john is the best
@I_am_Azeem
@I_am_Azeem 2 жыл бұрын
@@nelaepowt indeed
@its_snowyVT
@its_snowyVT 2 жыл бұрын
That’s weird, every time I hold down my Zhongli’s skill, it keeps summoning the pillar while generating his shield. Is there something wrong with my game?
@SuperSkilledGamerX
@SuperSkilledGamerX 2 жыл бұрын
No, that's how it's supposed to be when you hold his ES. No idea why they didn't get a pillar when they created the shield.
@milkway7298
@milkway7298 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperSkilledGamerX it’s weird. maybe because of constellations?
@SuperSkilledGamerX
@SuperSkilledGamerX 2 жыл бұрын
@@milkway7298 No, it's supposed to spawn a pillar at C0. C1 adds a second pillar and C2 shields you and nearby players when you use your Elemental Burst. Still a mystery how it didn't spawn a pillar 😀
@kanashiiinu9124
@kanashiiinu9124 2 жыл бұрын
They initially summoned the pillar somewhere so it doesn't potentially block ruin guards' missiles or just to make the viewers' focus on shielding itself.
@peacefindersimply5001
@peacefindersimply5001 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, yanfei shield is shockingly strong when it’s solely from a constellation
@WastedTalent83
@WastedTalent83 Жыл бұрын
trust me XD its a useless shield, because its based on her HP , so unless you want to use her as a tank (which makes no sense) the shield will be much less strong than showed in the video. Since you're gonna stack EM crit and crit damage, and IF you're lucky get some HP % here and there.
@EnidArt21
@EnidArt21 Жыл бұрын
Bonus in that she can hold Thrilling Tales or Prototype Amber.
@mid0rri411
@mid0rri411 2 жыл бұрын
this is so well made!!
@rusky802
@rusky802 2 жыл бұрын
3:13 Zhongli with a Black Tassel ❗❗❗
@pipedream2556
@pipedream2556 Жыл бұрын
Can this be considered accurate when there's clearly missiles missing the character altogether from blowback? How can you be sure you're counting them right when you can't control how many will actually impact your HP for you to count backwards from?
@subham.biswas
@subham.biswas 2 жыл бұрын
Forgot to take into account Noelle’s attack while shield active heals all the party members.
@zoyanabeel2349
@zoyanabeel2349 2 жыл бұрын
Is sacrificial better for Layla or favonius? Just that I needed sacrificial for xinqiu...
@phantomfoxkyo7104
@phantomfoxkyo7104 2 жыл бұрын
You'd probably be best off with Favonius for the extra energy particles, but she'll need some crit rate to make it work. Sacrificial is one of Xingqiu's most favored weapons, you're fine letting him use that over most anyone else.
@persephoenyx
@persephoenyx 2 жыл бұрын
finally a decent shield comparison and FINALLY I understand how Thoma works 😭 lmaooo and sth I wanted to add: Don't forget both Xinyan and Noelle gain extra def stacks from Whiteblind! Plus, Noelle also profits from the 4pc bonus granted by husk of opulent dreams, most effectively during her burst ofc, granting her even more def in the process - especially when her Whiteblind stacks are full before triggering her burst and increasing the stacks by her artifacts through that. ALSO: one of Noelle's passives grants a party member with low hp a shield absorbing 400% of her def which is over a 100% more than it can take on skill level 10 (288% + 1693) (even on skill lvl 13, meaning with her being c3 and crowned, the dmg absorption is below that of her emergency shield for party members (340% + 2k or sth). Can you tell I was a Noelle main for a good while? My girl is a BEAST sjsksjs
@itstruethough604
@itstruethough604 2 жыл бұрын
I love Noelle and have her c6 with amazing Husk artifacts and R2 Serpent Spine but i don’t rely on her shield. She is not he best shielder and that’s ok, she is well rounded over all and doesn’t need this amount of reaching to be a good unit
@persephoenyx
@persephoenyx 2 жыл бұрын
@@itstruethough604 I never meant to say she was the best shielder, she obviously still has immense issues with her shield uptime and personally I have a dps build for her as well nowadays. I was just trying to point out that what's shown here is pretty much her base shield without any weapon and artifact stacks for an even buffer shield. 😄 ofc she's never gonna beat someone like Zhongli and we'll eventually get even stronger shielders. Noelle is just a great all-rounder for newbies. 😊
@image0623
@image0623 Жыл бұрын
where was this video when zhongli first came out (before buffs) and all the the theory crafters was saying diona shield is just as strong as zhongli's, if not stronger. which everyone with eyes could just look at the talent numbers/scaling to see that wasn't true.
@winterrrrrrr
@winterrrrrrr 2 жыл бұрын
as much as i like this video not everyones shield levels were the same so this is just incorrect information.
@slurpince8996
@slurpince8996 2 жыл бұрын
0:52 perfectly synchronized with the music
@yuu-senpai2121
@yuu-senpai2121 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot about the 30% hp noelle shield
@heiwamjollier7434
@heiwamjollier7434 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm do we already have genshin shield themed protection devices on the Market? May have the potential to make a profit. Although...
@scharf1112
@scharf1112 2 жыл бұрын
As SOLO shielders (Not talking about team composition, that changes everything) Zhongli the best shielder The second is now Noelle and Layla Third is Thoma And Yanfei is 4 People are saying that Thoma is the best, no, his shield takes a long time to stack, until that the shield is gone. Layla can do a 100% shield, even if it's weaker than Noelle's, the time surpass it, so I think both of them are good in some aspects Noelle is better than Thoma, her shield is a simple option to be so strong, just put it and you have a good shield, besides the cooldown, it's insane
@mahamib
@mahamib 2 жыл бұрын
You don't need to stack up shield before fight. You can do that during the fight. While you're auto-attacking, thoma's shield will get healed up. Noelle's shield is technically weaker than thoma's shield with full stack, but it is stronger in most cases. That being said, her biggest flaw is her shield uptime... It's painfully long compared to thoma's 100% shield uptime
@fhantom2115
@fhantom2115 2 жыл бұрын
@@mahamib The only issue with Thoma in your example is that you have to maintain the shield while stacking. When you are up against bosses or enemies with high damage 1-hit moves in situations like spiral abyss then it becomes difficult to stack the shield if they can break it before you can stack it. BUT Thoma's shield is plenty strong if you are able to stack it, so he's still a good shielder.
@mahamib
@mahamib 2 жыл бұрын
@@fhantom2115 If we're assuming that the boss pulls out high damage attack the second you encounter it, then yes it could be a problem. But I have never encountered that. The shield gets pretty tanky after few normal attacks, and since he has 100% shield uptime the shield will be tanky during the whole fight
@fhantom2115
@fhantom2115 2 жыл бұрын
@@mahamib Oh I definitely agree it's tanky. I was just pointing out one possible drawback with his shield's design. I think it was Maguu Kenki's aoe blast after damaging 1/3 of his health where I had that problem.
@Outlander_07_newbie
@Outlander_07_newbie Жыл бұрын
Thoma shield is really good but i can't stand that stacking for his shield in order to get his shield strong. Noelle is also good but her skill cooldown is too long.💀
@ChristianKessler4185
@ChristianKessler4185 2 жыл бұрын
Not all skills were maxed in this test, so the true result on some characters will be few hits better, than shown here.
@RADZIO895
@RADZIO895 2 жыл бұрын
1 more hit max, definitely not "few hits" considering for most of them that'd be like 30-50% of ALL of the hits
@ellyxirdesu
@ellyxirdesu 2 жыл бұрын
I'm confused about the hits, does having more hits mean said chara is a better shielder? (aka can tank how many hits, or is it rather how many hits taken after shield broke??)
@redley6930
@redley6930 2 жыл бұрын
Hits is just how many hits the shield takes before breaking, it doesn't mean the character is a better shielder than another character, just means the shield is more durable. The value is also rounded down so even characters with the exact same hits don't have the same shield strength.
@sus6221
@sus6221 2 жыл бұрын
yes but it's also investment dependent, diona's shield here did better than layla's despite layla having a better shield because of Diona having more constellations
@jenr4m3fu83ensjr3
@jenr4m3fu83ensjr3 Жыл бұрын
Are you unable to count? It's quite obvious it's the former
@JP-wi3cs
@JP-wi3cs 2 жыл бұрын
Noelle can survive more than this with right build n team
@the-suspect
@the-suspect 2 жыл бұрын
True but it's only noelle who can survive that because of her high DEF. You can put Zhongli's shield on a high def character like Itto or Noelle and they will survive even longer..
@RADZIO895
@RADZIO895 2 жыл бұрын
@@the-suspect I don't think that's what they meant. You can use gorou to boost noelle's def, therefore her shield
@fhantom2115
@fhantom2115 2 жыл бұрын
@@RADZIO895 You're both right tho. Both situations mentioned would make Noelle with a shield last longer.
@madmaxim3965
@madmaxim3965 Жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to build a semi geo defensive team and this helped me alot to make some choices as I have Yun Jin, Noelle, Layla c1, beidou I have the rock and roll chick and the lady with the flying palace in lyieu and I'll probably go with her Yun Jin, Layla, and i just need a good hydro for the freeze and to ne my main dps on field right now I have no on
@catzrul3810
@catzrul3810 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think Layla is the bet shielded seeing that hee e skill’s reload is quick and she’s not as hard to get as zongli
@guilhermerafael4737
@guilhermerafael4737 2 жыл бұрын
I think Zhongli is way easier to get since he can be guaranteed and she have to dispute with other 25 characters + weapons.
@katsumixv
@katsumixv 2 жыл бұрын
cries in getting an (accidental) Yae Miko, 2 Thomas, 4 Heizous, a sacrificial sword, and the bell in 40 pulls trying to get Layla I JUST WANT ONE LAYLA PLEASE MY SCARA PITY TOO.... IT'S GONE 😭
@eternityjl6698
@eternityjl6698 2 жыл бұрын
don't forget that while other shields can absorb damage from similar elements well, Zhong Li doesn't have this problem, he absorbs damage from all elements equally.
@chargebclts
@chargebclts 2 жыл бұрын
@@katsumixvCAN WE SWITCH LUCK😭 i pulled for heizou cons but ended up with c3 layla…..
@katsumixv
@katsumixv 2 жыл бұрын
@@chargebclts YES PLEASE OML GIVE ME A LAYLA
@jasonjohns5879
@jasonjohns5879 2 жыл бұрын
Toy didn't account for skill level , i use the shield artifact sweety on zhong li so hew can actually deal songs damage and it absorbs at rank 9 skill 19k and some change. The Milelith set requires elemental skill to hit enemies to grant extra shield strength.
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