Layout Metal Siding Tips and Tricks

[@RyanJWassink]

My barn was built in 1980 by a family of construction workers who thought they knew how to build a barn. Granted that was 42 years ago and it's still standing... but there was zero effort put into making it look nice or operate nicely. No fascia, no trim, no soffit... just bare 2x6s covered by a mostly unsupported roof overhang and metal very loosely attached to 2x4s (through the ribs, so most of the nails have come out over the years and the wood has rotted behind.) It took me until now to save enough money to fix what they did when it was built, and your videos have really helped me figure out how things should be built. Its been a 120x80 "eyesore" for the last 40 years, it'll be a good looking barn come spring. Thank you for creating this content!

[@MsElijah16]

Awesome video man, You're a next level teacher. Level 1. Verbal instruction without showing Level 2. Showing without explanation Level 3. Showing while explaining That's something to be proud of I think

[@RRBuildings]

Hey thanks just wanted to help others and answer a ton of questions I receive

[@davidbolle9229]

As a former sheet metal enclosure designer, amazed at your attention to detail and craftsmanship! Great work!

[@Tkssa580]

Who else watched the whole 24 mins? Very informational. I’m not in this industry, but I love to watch other people be so perfect in their craft. Amazing work man! 🙌🏽💪🏽

[@RRBuildings]

well thank you very much

[@hammertime7349]

👍

[@leeklemetti1887]

@@hammertime7349 Sines when does Kyle not use a screw gun?

[@hammertime7349]

Lee Klemetti ? What

[@hammertime7349]

Lee Klemetti I don’t get ur comment

[@ddb1143]

This video and the one "How you can install windows like a PRO" have been an enormous help for me and my students! Our private school and I as an instructor for a shop class, have taken on a project of re-siding our shop building 120' long by 40' wide. Doing it ourselves to save costs meant an education on this subject was very important. One long wall has been completed at this point, and yes, layout is KEY, which I did on CAD and on the wall. Our windows would have had ribs in the wrong places had I not adjusted their placement by 1-1/2". Thank you Kyle for your detailed information, your emphasis on quality and time savings, your time to making these videos, and your excellent delivery during your presentations that also did not waste any time. The students that are helping with the project are benefiting from the lessons I am passing on during the build. I count this as a non-financial contribution to our school! 👨‍🎓👩‍🎓

[@RRBuildings]

wow that is awesome!! thank you for that comment

[@kennelson5096]

Your attention to details are something you should be proud of. Well done sir.

[@lillygrace53]

I would just plumb one panel and measure the rest. Every time you use the level , the more chance of an error. You guys have it figured out for sure. Great work.

[@paulmaxwell8851]

Preplanning and layout is absolutely critical. I've learned that the hard way. It's time consuming, but necessary. Great video, Kyle! I watched from start to finish.

[@GarrisonHansen]

RR you the man for teaching people how to do it right. From standing seam roofing to pro rib etc. you the man

[@grege8716]

I’m building a hunting cabin solo on my farm and dude your input has vaulted my finished product since December 2020 far beyond expectations, thank you so much for taking the time with details for my kids and grandkids and enjoy!! Nice Work!!!

[@Pooneil1984]

I never have nor will I ever construct a building. But I enjoy a clear and detailed instructional video on how to do almost anything. It is entertainment for me. It is also how I amaze my friends by dredging up some otherwise useless trivia that is perfect for a perplexing situation.

[@fredericrike5974]

Kyle, FYI, I got involved with a professional training/teaching enterprise a few years ago. Several things were given to me about delivering a lecture to a class; one of the most important was to engage the attention and keep it moving. The best lectures, often the ones the students got the most from, had a sense of timelessness- time didn't seem to pass, but much ground got covered. I just learned more in 24 minutes than I thought I could and your delivery, whether planned or instinctive was great. Love your tutorials; I'm a plumber by trade, and the teaching was a "second" career after I was too beat up to do the open site jobs, so I've never had any reason to learn about laying out walls- floors in kitchens and bathrooms I know; walls not so much! Your explanation didn't touch on the architectural side, but you layout rules help to make the openings look like you planned for them to be exactly where you put them- and it showed in your physical presentation. Subbed a while ago- and still learning!FR

[@RRBuildings]

Wow thanks fredrick. Sorry to hear you can’t practice your trade much anymore but teaching is important

[@fredericrike5974]

@@RRBuildings No need for sorry, Kyle; I chose plumbing as a profession as a 30 yr old adult, had some of the best tutors as well as very exceptional apprenticeship. I enjoyed four days a week, and can't complain about the fifth much at all. As are you, I was stretched to my limits physically and mentally almost every day. Some of my greatest accomplishments were in helping others become better at what they did, and from the repair side I go t to be a "hero" on many occasions. Fair trade, I'd call it. Thanks for your thoughts! FWIW, the trade and demands weren't what made me quit- other med issues compromised my abilities. Your thoughts are much appreciated.FR

[@steezyskier333]

starting a new job doing sheet metal siding and roofing up in the Aleutian islands in 2 weeks! I am extremely appreciative of giving me a great perspective and some pre-emptive know abouts! Thanks

[@witharebelyell2762]

I was kind of antsy to start my metal project (adding a small storage building to the end of my metal house), but after watching this guy, I'm ready to tackle the job. I plan on cutting my steel siding with a diamond/metal tile blade on my circular saw. Already tried it and it's great. I have a pneumatic nibbler that's just stupid and slow and loud.

[@shawn1506]

Your video was good. Couple points, your "J" channel above your doors would still need caulking at the cut where you slid your "J" up. Water could still ingress behind the flat. Just a little tip, "End dams" on what we call a "typic head/drip flashing". With an "End Dam" it forces the water beyond the high of your sheet. Do you up turn your sheet going into the Jamb flashing at the door? Water could work it's way around the flat of the sheet. I'm a cladder by trade, with ticket in Canada, west coast. We live in a rain forest here so we goo over kill on all terminations and penetration's. 20 years under my belt. But again, very informative and well produced video. I would definitely have you on my crew or just plain work with you in the field. Very clean work and you do have great attention to detail. Caulking = roofer in a tube. Cheers

[@AmbitionStrikes]

We’re starting window layout today, thanks for the informative video that is guaranteed to make our day go smoother!

[@davidbalch5096]

You guys are awesome I build houses for a living and there are few that understand that the ground work is the most important Layout is KEY

[@timothywackerle2374]

I’m so impressed with these guys and their craftsmanship. Love watching these videos. I wish they had built my airplane hangar.

[@scottplanovsek1026]

Kyle, I have been watching your videos for the last 3months because I am researching and learning/planning on putting up a 42x40 pole/garage/shop type structure on my land in northern Wisconsin. I never realized the variety of ways there are in steel post frame construction. My Father was a Master Plumber for over 37 years and taught me a great deal. You remind me a lot of him because he was a very detailed oriantated Mechanic that took Pride in his work( do it right the first time). He and I built my cabin 22 years ago from ground up and that was the best learning experience EVER!, I wish like heck you would do work in Northern WI,, keep the Great videos coming and never lose that Drive to “doing it right”vs “doing it easy”!!!

[@motley331]

No idea why but I enjoy watching you guys construct these buildings.

[@willb3018]

I think I know why. It is a pleasure to watch a real pro do about the highest quality work you can imagine on some of the best designed post frame buildings you can imagine. But other than that, I am not sure why.

[@LevBulgarski]

Simply because is great!

[@doubledarefan]

Beats the pants off that nonsense on TV.

[@vernonlohr1503]

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[@mrkooter]

Because it’s being built right. Which is rare anymore.

[@CaptK-py8rq]

Great presentation RR! As an old worn-out builder, I constantly look forward to learn something new, as we all should. I'm constantly looking & listening to learn different/new to me techniques in our craft. Tight lines!

[@Mol-908]

I worked for Morton building years ago when I first got into the trade. They by far have the best trim kits of any pole frame and metal buildings around. Using those chains to square up a building was a learning curve for me at first but they are definitely essential. There's nothing like seeing your upper steel panels rack at the bottom on top of that trim that separates the top panels from the bottom. You guys do excellent work 👍

[@bricksbymarco]

Greetings from The Netherlands. Big fan of your work, very professional. Not much guys have the quality of work that you do.

[@kristieandjeff2720]

Excellent video, my husband is currently putting sheet metal siding on our house at this very moment and this video was a HUGE help with all of your tips and tricks 👍Thank you!

[@makermarc70]

LOL! SCRUNCH! We are both perfectionists with an excellent working vocabulary! I love watching you guys. Thanks for keeping it real! Math never lies!

[@randallsteele43]

This guy makes some of the most legit instructional vids, he gets down to fine detail of layout, install, work flow, etc, ... As most true tradesmen know the devil is always in the details !

[@sleepy03]

It's the little details that make you a great builder, keep up the good work and thank you for sharing with us.

[@zephyr1408]

Thank you Kyle! I know that’s hard work & not many men could do it! But I appreciate your teaching. Now I don’t do that type of contracting (finish guy) but I often use what u show toward other things ? Especially the layout and tools! When I say most men could not do it? Yet I hear all the time “I just wanted to not tear myself up , blah, blah, blah! It’s a tough, hard, dangerous job! My dad built homes and he is a stud! Again thanks! God bless u & yours! Kings Table Custom Finish Carpentry JD

[@RRBuildings]

Thank you

[@jordanknute2029]

Couple things to mention as a carpenter that ends up installing a decent amount of corrugated and metal siding: 1. To cut the panels, especially if it's 24ga 7/8" corrugated, a skillsaw with a Diablo steel dragon metal blade, provides a very straight and very clean cut vs using a nibbler. It's also MUCH faster. For us, we go through 2 blades, $50 each, per typical 2000sq/ft home. Just a bit of Masking tape on the saw plate to avoide scratching. 2. for walls with lots of windows and hosebibs/electrical outlets: I like to order precut sheets for under windows, leave them loose side to side so as you get to the panel at the window, you can slide a rib under that panel, then continue past the window. Saves a lot of time in layout, extra cuts, waste etc. 3. With hosebibs and electrical outlets, I like to run a larger than needed fascia block almost as an architectural feature, closer to doors/ends of walls/vertical J trim locations, so that instead of having a situation of having a small 12"x12" block j-trimmed on 4 sides and trying to fit a panel over all that to fit behind the J-trim, without scratching it all up, run a larger block into longer sections of vertical trim flashing, so that you can now cut C notches and slide the panel in behind all the trim. Another thing in design if you're a general contractor like me, push to combine the hose bib and exterior plugs close enough(not too close for Code) that you can combine the fascia block for both. My plumber likes to offer Hot and Cold hose bib setups which clients love, and justifies a larger fascia block which again, makes installing the metal panels easier with less notch cutting.

[@scotts1716]

Hey Man, I just started following your content on YT, I've known about you for awhile, but just started watching your stuff here on KZbin, and I wanted to say I appreciate you showing us your work and being very informative, I can tell you are the real deal, a TRUE tradesman....and its great to watch with the format you are using, great quality! I am a carpenter myself, but you know how diverse the trade is, I made the switch from Residential to Commercial so its nice to look at videos like this to get some informative tips! I'm just doing my first steel siding building as we speak Keep it up! Cheers, from the great white North

[@RRBuildings]

Awesome thanks for the feedback Scott.

[@Screamingtut]

I love watching your videos, Kile, although I'm 66 now and handicapped due to back problems, I hope to get my first home. I now know how to do stuff.

[@LevBulgarski]

The world will be a lot nicer if there are more people taking pride of what they do like you guys. Kind Regards

[@rl3898]

Never thought of drawing out the spacing and forcing the sheet to the lines..thanks Kyle,, superb workmanship.

[@jasonmorse6003]

I remember doing the roof on my grandfather's camp the same weekend my uncle and cousins did there's just down the road... Due to going to school for metal fabrication and having the right tools.. well It didn't take long and it came out great... My uncle's roof took them awhile and they looked like clowns doing it... I offered to help but they would never accept that after decades of belittling me to complete worthlessness... Watching someone do it right and have pride in the job is refreshing and knowing that you don't have to go back and fix problems and made the most from the materials and labor...

[@randygerman2176]

“Take a little bit pride in your work, guys”, that says it all. Planning to have a pole barn built and I hope the only locally available builder does it this well.

[@2chipped]

Another seller explanation Kyle! Was just talking with my best friend who is a GC,about how important math is. But more importantly,that it needs to be shown how the division is figured first. 5 can be a total of 1+4 or 2+3.

[@jasonhatfield4747]

I'm building a 24' x 10' lean to right now and using steel for siding and roofing. Your videos have been HUGELY helpful! Thanks!

[@jessesteinke3894]

Excellent video. Thank-you. Your tip to mark out the steel before placing it looks to save my butt as I framed the windows on a 100+ year barn restoration before watching your video and multiple ribs were going to hit the window edges. Just trimming the first piece 2" should make my life a lot easier when I put up the steel.

[@michaelkennemer5770]

one of the best videos I have ever seen. Thanks

[@ftlaud911]

Great video. I don't build post frame buildings, but enjoy the information. Unfortunately, I live in a hurricane area so not possible. Thank you for sharing your tricks. I find it mesmorizing how everything lines up so perfectly.

[@jamesemmeneckersr.1875]

Thank your information is priceless....it has to be a lot of work putting theses out... It is much appreciated.... We are going to build 2 barns and 2 sheds in 2021...

[@abskillz5072]

I’ve seen a few of your videos before, and even though it’s got nothing to do with my trade. Your putting out some very interesting material. Thank you

[@latestartmtb4997]

I wish I had found your channel before I built my barn ! I guess it’s good to see all the things I did wrong lol !

[@andrewgrant3373]

As a spray foamer of nearly 10 years. My ears perked up for your commentary. I agree with your statements. On separating from metal however spray on house wraps is an excellent way for a sprayer to cheat on depth. And it is not an ideal substrate for foam.

[@tracypotter903]

Versetta stone with board and batten siding looks awesome. Love the colors

[@tomb1734]

I appreciate you taking the time to show this and you did a nice job. The problem is the building you have works out perfectly from one end to the other BUT what if your building was 30' 15-1/2 inches long.....then what? That's what needs addressed. Thanks and nice job

[@seantap1415]

I use my chop saw for cutting house wrap...Love the vids... I layout around doors and windows, especially overhead doors,

[@johnlyn1]

What is maximin truss length you use without having any center support beams? Another nice feature for using house wrap is if you plan to go with spray foam insulation. The spray will stick against the house wrap instead of the steal so should you ever have to replace a panel you won't have to deal with the spray foam being stuck to the steel. Just pop the steel panel off you need to replace and pop the new one on without disturbing the spray foam insulation.

[@Das_burrito]

Biggest I did when I worked for a post frame company was a 92' double truss. I'm hoping kyle is hiring soon ;)

[@yourRenoGuy]

Your showing and technical info never gets old even tough I know it already. Way to go Kyle tnx

[@gilbertrivera1293]

Precision and experience always gets my attention! Beautiful work! 😎

[@OutdoorTech79]

Hi Kyle I think your videos are awesome and will really help a lot of people out with building these buildings for themselves or having the know how to hold contractors responsible for a properly built building. I was curious if you could put up a video on what you do to ensure a properly torqued and installed metal screw as many people run them in to tight?

[@jflores1922]

Good job Man. Know days people don't take pride on what they do, and they have excuses for everything. Hope you have a good crew begin you. 1 Core Construction LLC

[@jeffmyers4491]

Hey Kyle’s. I finally watched the entire video. Great details & presentation 👍 Keep safe & sane out there 👊🤠

[@mrbuilder35]

Install the house wrap the right way! I couldn't agree with you more. Upside down drives me nuts!!! Along with a zillion pieces and unlevel....

[@diverse_insightt.o6499]

Hey great video so happy I found your channel again, up here in Canada we use drip edges above the windows and the u brackets for the side then for the bottom it’s a piece with a 90 we slide 1/2 inch under the window with a 1 1/2 face with a hemmed edge we done use the U’s above the window because of rain / snow in the winter

[@jethrob258]

Thank you for all the videos. I love the tips and tricks. I've ballooned framed houses most of my life. I'm wanting to build a 45x65 post frame and these videos sure helps me feel more comfortable with doing this. I even feel more comfortable with buying the correct tools too. Didn't even think about window and door placement according to the ribs. Thank you Thank you Thank you. You undoubtedly just saved me a major mistake. Keep up the great work and Happy Thanksgiving to all of you.

[@jamesking8303]

I hereby give you the degree of HONORABLE TEXAN. Congratulations on being a Badass!

[@dwnixon]

I've never seen any metal buildings built this way in North Texas. Steel buildings are made completely out of steel. Is it cheaper to build with wood? Sure enjoy watching you guys build.

[@RRBuildings]

In my area you would never get a steel building this nice for twice the price

[@donsdiys1140]

The information that you put in your videos is great.

[@myichael]

Accompanying here from Brazil, your work is amazing Kyle. Your channel is amazing

[@TheJimmybud]

Laser were brand new when I was building pole barns , we snapped a chalk line and ran that rodent trim and took a pencil to mark screw lines . No scaffolding ,lifts , just ladders . Old school . At least you put your screw in the right place !

[@dannymartin6640]

I'm sure glad that people like you and me take pride in your work and it always pays off on the finish product being installed the correct way thank you for sharing great work

[@PRACTICALBUSHCRAFTSURVIVAL]

We should call you Professor Kyle. your the Man...

[@silvergrizzly316]

It's so fascinating to watch how much care you and your crew put into each and every step of the process of erecting these buildings. Kyle, your attention to detail is simply amazing and like no other I've ever seen and I was in construction of decks, screened in porches, room additions and roofing. I've really seen how some contractors will take shortcuts and just plain sloppy work. VERY NICE work my friend. 👍👍 Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours Kyle. Take care and God Bless. ~Jay~.

[@RRBuildings]

Thanks Jay I truly feel if it’s worth doing it is worth doing your best no matter what

[@docrw]

Kyle, Your best video by far! I found so much help on this one.

[@cynthiaayers7696]

A styrofoam cup with hot coffee in it, think about how thin it is and how hot that coffee is. Good insulation. I used 1 inch 4 by 8 sheets of Styrofoam in my shop. Worked wonderfully. It also cut the price way down on insulation. Then I used a 4 x 8 sheet of OSB bang board running around inside the shop. On the outside, I used the black Roofing paper 36 in wide rolls. It's better for the wood.......... Three generations of builders in my family going back into the 1940s. We have built hundreds of these. Thanks for the video.

[@bigpaugh]

Wow your videos are top notch. Very good content and any question I may have are answered. Thank you keep them coming, cant wait for the next.

[@RRBuildings]

Thanks man I appreciate that just trying to help

[@bigpaugh]

@@RRBuildingsYour efforts are showing. You are getting your content across very well. Your working hard and then you guys are your own production team. It adds hours to your work day and I appreciate the sacrifice.

[@mikestill8374]

Happy Thanksgiving to you Kyle enjoy your videos that you show us in the layout work. I never miss any of them enjoy them all take care

[@JMSILVER23]

When my friend start in construction his boss made him and his co-worker re-wrap a house because the wrap was upside down. They learned a lesson that day and carried that forward throughout his very successful career. Anything worth doing is worth doing right!

[@robertsmithUH60driver]

Sure wish I saw this before diy my building. Great info

[@jamesflowers7142]

As a commercial carpenter we don’t see much of this type of work but it’s fun to learn the tricks before you need em

[@handyhowiem]

Thanks for the great videos Kyle. I like the RidgeLine 9 angle marking tool !

[@circleofdadspodcasttm3011]

Where can I find one of those angle marking tools?

[@tomjackson8895]

Great information. I wish I had found this a tad earlier, but can still use it now.

[@218philip]

It’s nice when you are able to do this work when it is not windy.

[@larss592]

Spent some years in this particular trade. I was considered among the vest at the time. It is nice to see work being done as i did before and with a clean horizontal cut with a nibbler instead of an abrasive saw. Last company i checked out to see how others were doing was using an abrasive blade on a roof and not even cleaning up the burnt edges. When it rusts not even two months after install the owner will be quite upset. I would love to send you some horror pics of a residential metal roof install. They are horrendously bad. Email? Nice work. Also, i argued with a brother in law on his pole barn on the proper placement of screws. Some jackoma told him on the ribs so sent 2 1/2" screws. I won and he spent forever grinding penetrated screw tips inside. Let me know on the pics.

[@bennobro]

Great content as usual! I'd kill to work with you guys, the results are always spectacular. I'd love to see a video purely on all your trim details and cuts, you're like a damn wizard with the snips haha. Thanks again

[@kentrymason5566]

Thank u I'm bulding my own shed u have helped me a lot ! I'll be following u hear on out ,.

[@jeffmeans894]

Really like the color scheme on this one! Good job as always man!!

[@cedarstrip1473]

Great video. Thank you for taking all this time to show people the details.

[@markcaruso815]

You have a video on the basic tools you suggest? Thanks great video

[@vxnova1]

This is an incredibly helpful video, great videography, very well edited and brilliant instructions, many thanks for sharing you make a great teacher, 👍

[@jwalt9]

Unfortunately we have a rib the falls on our side trim. You mentioned that you would be doing a video to show how to work through that. Wondering if you ever made that video? Thank you for the great video!

[@xSpiritAWx]

Hey Happy thanksgiving 🦃 Mr Kyle. Been a great year watching you and the crew.

[@leebruch6287]

what is the tool you use for angle layout - at the 14:50 min mark ?

[@brandonberkland5838]

Interested in that as well. Not even sure what to call it for a google search

[@tn7142]

Great video of your awesome workmanship!! Thanks for sharing your tips and tricks!!

[@sanchotheboss4068]

New sub, I been watching the channel for a while though. Learned a trick of 2 from this video thanks

[@mrkooter]

God Bless You for your very Attention To Detail (ATD) contracting instruction. You are helping to make great future contractors. #MrATD

[@user-zx9re5hm3q]

Great videos and workmanship I love them! Which of your videos had the tutorial on "base plate trim and making a perfect corning cut"? Thank-you again.

[@R2Mike]

2 quick questions. When you measured for your first gable panel, do you not trust the little laser measuring device you have? And what's your thought on putting rain diverters on the bottom of your metal or snow bars up the roof alittle? Around here we have to put them on some of our roofs

[@jamiespade3327]

Where do I get the straight edge you used for marking the angle on the panel? Also, great video and explanation. Thanks, Jamie.

[@bustingcrows2500]

If you figure out what that straight edge is and where to get it, please leave a comment. I’ve searched the World Wide Web over and can not find one.

[@roam0932]

@@bustingcrows2500tough trade tools ridge L9

[@baseballdude8491]

Great content-luv that Metabo HPT cordless nibbler!

[@miktub1555]

Great video! Love that flashing detail.

[@jeffgough]

Love the JCB equipment! I just got a Teleskid.

[@samanthawhite2064]

Hi Kyle, Can you make a video detailing how you do the whole eve and gable? Including all the trim pieces, I pretty much know how it's done, but there are a couple of things I am not sure about, including how to fasten the vented fascia to a rafter that is on an angle, plus wrapping under the edges and to the inside part of the roofing. Thanks Tons, You do a great job, :) P.S. Tell Greg I love his house now, he should have the ladies knocking the door down now!

[@andyvetter8672]

Great video brother.. love watching you & learning your tips , I’m not post framing I’m framing houses but it’s great to learn new things , makes me a better all around carpenter.. You do amazing work. Live the dream bro ! 👊🏻

[@RRBuildings]

Thanks Andy! Love the dream for sure

[@frankvoynar6427]

Great video, layout makes or breaks a job. That's y I diy.. details are everything.

[@ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOO00]

The fact that the foam insulation sticks to the metal is the prime reason I NEVER use house wrap. I want the closed cell foam to glue the steel together. I put steel clad pole barns up all over northwest Florida and southern Alabama and most of my buildings are heated shops. Never had a problem foaming without wrap and none of my buildings have blown away in a hurricane. I always put 3” closed cell on the ceilings and 2” on the walls. That glues the entire structure together and it’ll never come apart. And yes, it’s not difficult to modify a building constructed this way. We upgrade buildings often.

[@dandugan824]

Always great videos and always learning something from you Kyle, thanks very much!

[@chadweddle702]

Great job Gregg!

[@JohnNishi]

Great Video Kyle. At 14:40, you mention that you cut the sheet 1/4 " shorter than the measured length of 16 feet (between the base trim and the top j-channel). Would you also cut the sheets 1/4" shorter on a length of 6 - 10 "?

[@williamszymanski987]

I think the point Kyle was making is that he takes a "tight" measurement and then takes a 1/4 inch off when he cuts to ensure an easy fit. The length of the measurement is irrelevant.

[@joha7484]

i love kyle and his work