So I Just Finished The Last of Us Part II...

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@jmcman6104
@jmcman6104 4 жыл бұрын
The last scene with the Joel Ellie flashback absolutely had me in tears. The dialogue is so perfectly written and it talks about how Ellie feels about the meaning of her life being ripped away from her. It’s the first time I’ve full on cried at a game and I wish the game could’ve ended with that scene.
@lewis821
@lewis821 4 жыл бұрын
That scene really killed me. The fact that Joel and Ellie were going to reconcile and he dies a day later is so heartbreaking.
@DVRKSTXR
@DVRKSTXR 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had tears in my eyes during that part. It was incredibly hard to watch but impossible to look away from. That was the perfect scene to close the game off with. Such a beautifully delivered scene on the behalf’s of Troy Baker and Ashley Johnson.
@armanA2103
@armanA2103 4 жыл бұрын
I legit cried as soon as I saw that scene all the way until the end of the credits
@ghostt7157
@ghostt7157 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but what bothered me a lot was that the game ended with a lot of questions and we don’t know if tlou3 will release and if it did that could be a long time .
@Gman07024
@Gman07024 4 жыл бұрын
Umm it kinda did end with that scene
@avrydobbs2186
@avrydobbs2186 4 жыл бұрын
I feel so similar to how you feel in this game... the song Joel sings and the weight that holds throughout the game with Ellie playing it... 😭
@nakkiolololo4581
@nakkiolololo4581 4 жыл бұрын
Joel isnt dead..... So far, by what they presented in part 2, their gonna blow our minds again
@archieryan9015
@archieryan9015 4 жыл бұрын
Facts. It was so sad when Ellie was playing it with her missing fingers knowing damn well that she almost completely lost herself :(
@SaberRexZealot
@SaberRexZealot 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, some actual discussion instead of memes about Kratos not killing Zeus, Neil Druckmann’s self insert and people thinking Abby is trans.
@catwearingshades
@catwearingshades 4 жыл бұрын
there’s literally hundreds of videos of critiques that don’t include those points...
@Playatoma
@Playatoma 4 жыл бұрын
Subverted plenty of it on Twitter
@mightycawl2745
@mightycawl2745 4 жыл бұрын
This comment gives me hope ♡
@dukinhower
@dukinhower 4 жыл бұрын
finally?
@reterumstrict1091
@reterumstrict1091 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly loved the trans sex scene with Abby ♥️ it made me as a trans feel represented in 2020 in a game I love♥️ I love Neil for making it happen ♥️
@alial-ameri444
@alial-ameri444 4 жыл бұрын
Surprised that someone said they like the game and didn't get 90% dislikes. I loved this game so much and people should really give it a chance.
@titan-framboise3126
@titan-framboise3126 4 жыл бұрын
I give it a chance. Like I give a chance to Last Jedi and GOT season 8.
@Chipotle-ep9yi
@Chipotle-ep9yi 4 жыл бұрын
I played the game, and tried to keep an open mind.. Sorry the story is trash... if it wasn't a sequel and didn't disrespect the first game, it would have been an awesome game... That being said, you can't ignore that they lied in marketing, took part in illegal dmca strikes, and crunch their employees and strained their freedom of speech while working on the game. I'd give it a fairer chance if any of these things were not true.
@benmarshall6762
@benmarshall6762 4 жыл бұрын
Chipotle3114 can you please tell me how it disrespected the first game what did you want this game to be a game where Joel and Ellie go on another adventure that just isn’t the last of us
@giovanisabbagh5749
@giovanisabbagh5749 4 жыл бұрын
Even though I didn't think the story was great and disagreed with the video, it's pretty fucking immature to dislike some ones video because they have a different opinion
@Burke-
@Burke- 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chipotle-ep9yi I loved the game but at least you gave a realistic opinion on why you disliked it, and you've played the game, youre not just some 12 year old metacritic bomber
@joelonnerlov7833
@joelonnerlov7833 4 жыл бұрын
This is the absolute best review on this game that I have seen. You´re totally fair to the game, pointing out the reason why you like the game but more important acknowledge the flaws about game and still stick with your opinions. As you said this game might age well and people might appriciate it later no matter if you like it or not, this game is going to turn out to be a game we all remember beacuse it took risks and didn't follow the safe "hollywood story" route. I'm still effected by this game emotianally and it has made me feel something and that is the reason I play videogames, no matter if I agree with the game developers or not about the game.
@dereksmidl8352
@dereksmidl8352 4 жыл бұрын
Only 33% have finished as of a couple days ago so I think with time more will finish it and think it was GoTY
@emerystheimmortal417
@emerystheimmortal417 4 жыл бұрын
@@dereksmidl8352 I highly doubt that. Too divisive to get the support needed. I can't think of a divisive GOTY in recent years
@ShaneDR009
@ShaneDR009 4 жыл бұрын
100% agree. Is it possible to have withdrawals from a game? Sure, I can play them both again, but don’t you just want to be there and see what happens to these people? This world?
@jarvis__212
@jarvis__212 4 жыл бұрын
Such a good comment
@krono5el
@krono5el 4 жыл бұрын
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@monty8615
@monty8615 4 жыл бұрын
This is the only TLoU comment section that isn’t just blindly hating on the game
@Micheal93k
@Micheal93k 4 жыл бұрын
Beware the peanut gallery.
@bigyeet3213
@bigyeet3213 4 жыл бұрын
Blindly?? So the games perfect then yeah ?
@imperfect_dan7519
@imperfect_dan7519 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigyeet3213 I think it is
@kadesull
@kadesull 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigyeet3213 why do you bother twisting peoples words to something that they clearly don't mean. No game is perfect. By saying "blindly hating" he means hating it for the sole reason of Joel dying and/or review bombing it when people haven't even played it.
@FHD80057
@FHD80057 4 жыл бұрын
Big Yeet no game is. But if you can’t admit there is an insane amount of blind hate, maybe you’re part of it
@Ace-jb6gi
@Ace-jb6gi 4 жыл бұрын
She can actually still play the guitar. All she gotta do is learn how to play left handed.
@SnowWhiteTheU2
@SnowWhiteTheU2 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure we'll see that in Part 3
@austinfull8941
@austinfull8941 4 жыл бұрын
DLC is finding tapes of Jimi Hendrix. Ellie then becomes a rockstar and dies at 27
@ultrafire5330
@ultrafire5330 4 жыл бұрын
Shed need to get a left handed guitar. If she flipped her guitar around the low E and the high e would be flipped. And with those fingers gone limits her ability to do finger style, which is the guitar skill that she has developed the most. Even if she got a left handed guitar she'd have to learn all over again
@Bionic8J
@Bionic8J 4 жыл бұрын
That and she has to get use to guitar picks, finger style ain’t it
@marioslrzn
@marioslrzn 4 жыл бұрын
Ace2409 all she needs is a ps4 and dual shock controller 😂
@ihunt8255
@ihunt8255 4 жыл бұрын
Finally an unbiased review. Someone finally draws parallels to Joel’s and Ellie’s story to Abbys. How life keeps going full circle. I thought the narrative was brilliant. Good job mate.
@TheDXJC56
@TheDXJC56 4 жыл бұрын
Except Joel and Ellie built a relationship over the course of a full year and Abby just falls in love with Lev outta nowhere so while the parallels are definitely MEANT to be there, no they do not actually succeed in creating that relationship other than through the writing technique "because I told you so now accept it and don't dare think about the gap in logic here"
@zeiters2055
@zeiters2055 4 жыл бұрын
No one missed these parallels. They’re so obvious they could have been presented to the player in a line graph
@antt0023
@antt0023 4 жыл бұрын
@@zeiters2055 i doubt that
@dpeace99
@dpeace99 4 жыл бұрын
I get what they were going for, I’m still annoyed that I played as Abby for half the game. Especially the second half.
@jakemoody5265
@jakemoody5265 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah playing as Abby for 10 hours was unnecessary and I would’ve been fine with half that time
@therealgingerboy2215
@therealgingerboy2215 4 жыл бұрын
This actually kinda changed my perspective to a more positive light..
@uhuhuh1966
@uhuhuh1966 4 жыл бұрын
This brings a tear to my eye, the haters have been so toxic it’s hurt my soul
@traviscue2099
@traviscue2099 4 жыл бұрын
I went into this game completely blind. I only saw the original gameplay/dance scene trailer. I avoided all of the drama/politics, and just locked myself away for 3 days and played the game. And without a doubt, it was the best gaming experience I've arguably ever had (Even more so than the first, but also due to the first). I feel far too many people went in with this unfair bias of wanting to hate the game. Like the review bombing started the second people could review the game on metacritic. Every criticism I've seen so far I just think "..That's the point! It was intentional!". If this game is "bad writing" then so is any classic book that kills off a great character in a messed up way.
@paul19519
@paul19519 4 жыл бұрын
uhuhuh1966 I wouldn’t call everyone that dislike the game haters.. most have valid reasons for not liking the game.
@traviscue2099
@traviscue2099 4 жыл бұрын
@@paul19519 When the game gets more reviews (More than double) in the first 3 hours of Metacritic user reviews coming out, than what the OG game got in 7 years. I'd say they're unfairly judging a game they've never played. If you didn't enjoy the story after you played it, sure by all means criticize it. But I think they're in the minority compared to the hate mob currently losing their mind for mostly political reasons.
@paul19519
@paul19519 4 жыл бұрын
Travis Cue by that logic in those 3 hours there were a lot of positive reviews there also.. an they didn’t finish the game. Also metacritic is not allowing some users to post fair balanced reviews, only keeping the positive ones.. My point is you can’t call all people that dislike the game haters.. like I can’t say people that enjoy it are shields or whatever word you want to use.. play the game to enjoy it! If you don’t.. so be it.. both sides shouldn’t tear each other down.
@FlorentineNoble
@FlorentineNoble 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this...
@Milicinho4
@Milicinho4 4 жыл бұрын
You dont even know
@dweetsauce8513
@dweetsauce8513 4 жыл бұрын
“I’ve been looking forward to this”
@shiki9marshal
@shiki9marshal 4 жыл бұрын
@@dweetsauce8513 "My powers have doubled since the last time we met"
@vincentgray9235
@vincentgray9235 4 жыл бұрын
You're gonna carry that weight spike
@engadsraaf7413
@engadsraaf7413 4 жыл бұрын
Basically this sounds like it’s going to be like days gone where everyone seemed to hate it at first though unlike this got bad or average reviews but then after people actually finished playing it they realised it was pretty damn good.
@WickedJohnny26
@WickedJohnny26 4 жыл бұрын
I swear you have read my mind I completely understand why people may not “like” the game but it does not mean at all that it is a “bad” game this was truly a masterpiece I really have a hole in my chest after finishing the game I want another game from naughty dog already
@majaquinn
@majaquinn 4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you. It’s a beautiful game, you can tell they truly put a lot of their effort in the making of this. The storyline is the only thing that I personally feel like they need to work on and with their marketing lie, but other than that it’s the perfect game
@MM-hi
@MM-hi 4 жыл бұрын
@KorinXploits too bad for you
@RunicLuke
@RunicLuke 4 жыл бұрын
@cod lover Why is it whenever there's a lesbian in a game, it's such a problem. No one complains about having straight male characters 'forced' on players? Who cares?
@bradwalsh9760
@bradwalsh9760 4 жыл бұрын
@cod lover your fragility is glaring. Cry some more weak boy.
@archieryan9015
@archieryan9015 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed ! Its nice to see that not everyone is shitting on this brilliant game :)
@witchywoman2008
@witchywoman2008 4 жыл бұрын
I finished the game yesterday and you have said absolutely everything I felt. I adored this game. I think it was absolutely fantastic. I had no idea what to expect in a sequel, it certainly was not this, but I am so glad this is the direction they took because it is wonderful.
@SuperGrimmy
@SuperGrimmy 4 жыл бұрын
Don't be sorry for a long video. I think it was way too short and I'm looking forward to the in-depth analysis. There is so much to talk about. Pretty sure you could do several videos on this.
@sionetupou437
@sionetupou437 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed I hate the game but the parts that I loved is explained very well by this guy i want more
@sashotai2327
@sashotai2327 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for explaining that link between the ending and joel and Ellie's last conversation about wanting to try to forgive him. im glad someone finally mentioned it
@lotus1117
@lotus1117 4 жыл бұрын
I loved the game as well. The mid section dragged a bit, but overall, the game isn't half bad. Honestly, I think the backlash this game got is comical at best, and quite literally pathetic at worst. People giving this a 0 out of 10 just because their favorite character died (in a zombie game, mind you), and yet they're all still going out of their way to buy it! I mean, this game has become the fastest selling PS4 title to date, trumping both Spiderman and God of War. Is this what boycotting a game entails in 2020?
@cjb_breezy8025
@cjb_breezy8025 4 жыл бұрын
I loved this take and your analysis. I feel the exact same way. I absolutely loved this game. I knew I couldn’t be the only one who found the ending satisfying, despite how heartbreaking it was.
@JudgeFudge57
@JudgeFudge57 4 жыл бұрын
I literally agree with every point you just made.
@xSuperMaXsio
@xSuperMaXsio 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. He explaining things was literally me playing the game. I loved it so much. I cried at the end 😭
@Spud1210
@Spud1210 4 жыл бұрын
You know when you don’t cry but your lip has a seizure and you can’t control it? That was me during that entire conversation between Joel and Ellie at the end. Closest I’ve come to crying at a video game
@snaak25
@snaak25 4 жыл бұрын
the scene of sam and ellie tlou 1: where are you affraid of... ending alone...
@ryanoneill9710
@ryanoneill9710 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah good game and I agree pacing was it’s weak point
@sascha3786
@sascha3786 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@liam6157
@liam6157 4 жыл бұрын
I jumped in blind, having seen only the box art. I purposely avoided this video along with every other trailer, speculation, article, and spoiler. I just finished the game and I loved it. I also understand why people didn’t. I feel like the biggest complaint was this devalued Joel and Ellie’s relationship, which I understood at first. I thought it made Joel seem like an awkward step dad that somehow got custody over the mom. But after playing through all of Ellie’s memories and especially that one scene with the two of them in the porch, i think it did their relationship justice. After everything, Ellie and Joel were on their way to healing. And Ellie wouldn’t have gone all bloodthirsty if she didn’t really love Joel
@ShaneDR009
@ShaneDR009 4 жыл бұрын
You and I did the same thing - as in avoided all the hype leading up to it. Maybe if people could be more patient (most of the world must open their presents before Christmas Day, it seems) then maybe they wouldn’t be disappointed by preconceived notions or knowledge.
@eFlower13
@eFlower13 4 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@Velasco-vp1fh
@Velasco-vp1fh 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShaneDR009 I have seen all the spoilers. I've seen a big chunk of video leak and still ended up loving the game. They were actually developing a multiplayer similar to the first one. Not sure if they're gonna continue developing it
@ryanhowe6543
@ryanhowe6543 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard complaints about how “out of character” Joel was in the opening 1/2 hours which I couldn’t disagree more, part of it is that he’s been living in this welcoming, peaceful community for the past 4/5 years, maybe it’s not as much time as 20 but even then; you can still change and be more sociable after a certain time in a community like Jackson for just a few years. Also, everyone seems to either ignore or forget they were chased by a swarm of infected in a blizzard without much of a choice and people say “they just waltzed into a trap” I don’t know what game they were playing
@Velasco-vp1fh
@Velasco-vp1fh 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanhowe6543 Joel didn't even trust them. Joel refused Nora's offer to remove the saddle of the horse because they'll (Tommy and Joel) have a quick getaway once the weather has gotten better. Him introducing himself wasn't a sign of trusting them. It's not like a name is will give them so much information especially that they're in an apocalyptic world.
@nBUMBA
@nBUMBA 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who understands. Its a story of forgiveness. Not why revenge is bad
@NhatLinhNguyen82
@NhatLinhNguyen82 4 жыл бұрын
This is also a story of empathy. Also story of closure.
@K-Choi
@K-Choi 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with Linh Nguyen, it’s more of a story of closure(peace of mind)
@kylealexander7024
@kylealexander7024 4 жыл бұрын
Its a story that allows u to feel how u feel about it. Its not forcing you to say anyone is right or wrong or about forgiveness or revenge imo. Its bout people living theyre life through these events in both games. Idk wtf i would do but i sure hope i have the resolve of joel, ellie, abby, dina, tommy, owen, etc. Also...fuck manny
@dustinakadustin
@dustinakadustin 4 жыл бұрын
It's a story about all those things. They're all big themes in it.
@BladePlays21
@BladePlays21 4 жыл бұрын
Also selfishness and all so many others it’s soo gooooood
@rahulkhairwal
@rahulkhairwal 4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you. This game is a beautiful masterpiece. An extremely powerful, grim, and heartbreaking tale of hate, violence, revenge, and moral relativism. It takes balls to do what Naughty Dog did with this game. And they did justice to the first game. The ending breaks your heart, and would probably haunt me for some time.
@gumby624
@gumby624 4 жыл бұрын
It’s gonna be a no from me dawg.
@RozKounelakion
@RozKounelakion 4 жыл бұрын
Lmaoooo. There is no way anyone can genuinely think that this game does justice to the original. They tried to pass a message that literally cannot be passed with the way the story went. They just destroyed the characters and changed them entirely to make the story possible.
@clark2
@clark2 4 жыл бұрын
I love Abby love to play her first i hate her but the longer i play her i love her , and i love that Ellie saved Abby and Lev, ass a player i was so afraid in the end that Ellie shoud kill Abby if Ellie have kille me (Abby) she Will be lost forever but when she lett me live i feel so much love for Ellie and i know that she can start loving People again and lett go off the Hate.
@StayFractalesque
@StayFractalesque 4 жыл бұрын
here here, OP. p.s. guys, If you don't like the game, were just trying to get you to like it like we do.. you guys are trying to get us to hate it like you do.. I'm sorry, but why would you want other people to share your intense dislike? its not a very noble cause to try and spread hateful feelings to people who obviously have their minds made up that they like it.
@Joe_Okey
@Joe_Okey Жыл бұрын
@@RozKounelakion Too bad you just can't seem to get it. I agree with the people who love this game that people need MORE than one run-through. The second playthrough should be New Game + so you can use the modifications that will allow you to focus more on the story and less on the combat, that way you can actually pay attention to the story and see EXACTLY why it is so good.
@alanm7838
@alanm7838 4 жыл бұрын
I've already seen a lot of people comment about, "finally, something that doesn't just blindly hate on this game" and I just wanted to give my thoughts on that so I could hopefully encourage some nice, civil conversations in the comments section, so here we go. I really only hint a TINY bit at spoilers, but if you wanna go in entirely blind without ANY hints, no matter how small, do not read this comment. So, I hated the game. But I know that some people loved it, and some people hated it, and I feel like this game will be a very polarizing game for a long time. Over time, I've softened on the game a bit, but for very personal, subjective reasons, I found the game's story to be a punch in the gut, heart and soul that left me feeling empty and like Joel and Ellie's relationship never mattered in the end. It seriously messed with me emotionally because of what the first game meant to me. But if you love the game... I'm so glad you did. Because even though I hate the game, it is not my job to ruin the enjoyment of the game for other people. If you loved the game, I'm so glad you were able to enjoy a game that I wasn't. That being said, those that love the game, it is ok to hate this game. People who hate this game, it is ok to love this game. Not everyone hating on the game is hating it out of blind hatred, and not everyone is loving the game out of blind fanboyism. It is ok to disagree on this game. If you love this game, I am so, so happy that you were able to enjoy an experience that I wasn't. If you hate it, I'm sorry you weren't able to enjoy it, but I'm glad we can agree on some things. Please, feel free to discuss opinions down below in a civil and respectful manner if you wish. -Alan Mirzoev Known on other platforms as Chobani, Chobani Prophet, and/or Hammid of Siwa on the Four Pillars Discord.
@charliecarpo9759
@charliecarpo9759 4 жыл бұрын
"It seriously messed with me emotionally" I feel the same way watching ellie walk away unable to play the song Joel taught her was too rough. Being completely alone again like before she was with Joel too makes the first game seem pointless.
@jamesmartin2221
@jamesmartin2221 4 жыл бұрын
I'm of the same opinion as you. What specifics did you not like? It would be nice to hear the reasons why people that liked the game are able to explain them. It might even make us have a nicer perspective on it
@SkipaDaFlipa
@SkipaDaFlipa 4 жыл бұрын
charlie carpo i completely agree
@99RedRedfake
@99RedRedfake 4 жыл бұрын
@Alessandro Silvestri Koufis To be fair, Joel is NOT comfortable in that scene at all. The second Tommy, who has lived in a town that survives by trading with travellers in large part, for decades, opens his mouth, Joel knows he fucked up. But it's too late, they are there and they are surrounded and they already gave their names away earlier to Abby so it's too late to lie. He lets his guard down but not nearly as much as his brother.
@vise_atoxity8083
@vise_atoxity8083 4 жыл бұрын
@Alessandro Silvestri Koufis I've thought about it like this... spending four years in a settlement where you meet a new stranger nearly every single day is gonna change how you see strangers. Hell, when they moved in to Jackson, everyone but Tommy and his wife were strangers. Eventually, when all you do is either bond with them strangers or trade with passing strangers for four years straight, you're gonna experience a change in yourself on how you perceive people.
@armyofray8096
@armyofray8096 4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. Finished the game last night. This is what games should strive to be. Give me what I didn't know I wanted
@adamadamson4329
@adamadamson4329 4 жыл бұрын
What part of this did you want? Was it satisfying?
@deez6102
@deez6102 4 жыл бұрын
:)
@kostasspirou1010
@kostasspirou1010 2 жыл бұрын
"This is what games should strive to be" True!!! I really want more games to do something different, take risks, and not do the same thing all over again.
@Joe_Okey
@Joe_Okey Жыл бұрын
@@adamadamson4329 To answer your second question, after multiple playthroughs I finally started seeing what they were going for and YES it was very satisfying for me. Each subsequent playthrough showed me something new that I had not seen before.
@joshearnest6742
@joshearnest6742 4 жыл бұрын
Had to wait a day to watch this as I still needed to finish my play through, but I can’t tell you how much of a relief it is to hear someone else enjoyed the game!
@mikeoxlong8252
@mikeoxlong8252 4 жыл бұрын
This changed my whole thought process of the game
@aashrithmadagiri6711
@aashrithmadagiri6711 4 жыл бұрын
Khalil Hines no he saw the light
@liamhall5044
@liamhall5044 4 жыл бұрын
This is easily the nest overall review of this game I think you hit the nail perfetly on the head my man
@babc6394
@babc6394 4 жыл бұрын
@Megatron EX1127 it is not revenge game, it is "no one is a bad guy" story. With a slight of hand character building.
@thiagomachado3779
@thiagomachado3779 4 жыл бұрын
@cod lover Hi I have seen you in many comment responses. Why are you so angry? I mean people just liked the game if you don't that's fine but you don't have to offend everyone that does not think exactly like you
@ballisticgamer1
@ballisticgamer1 4 жыл бұрын
Everything you said about this game I completely agree with. Loved the game, loved hearing your thoughts on it.
@MattMattMattMattMattMattMatt-
@MattMattMattMattMattMattMatt- 4 жыл бұрын
@cod lover imagine being this pathetic...
@MattMattMattMattMattMattMatt-
@MattMattMattMattMattMattMatt- 4 жыл бұрын
@cod lover oh no the evil boogeyman Anita strikes again! How will the gaming industry ever recover?! Grow up dude.
@MattMattMattMattMattMattMatt-
@MattMattMattMattMattMattMatt- 4 жыл бұрын
@cod lover nice bait
@cvxgaming6855
@cvxgaming6855 4 жыл бұрын
@cod lover imagine wasting your time hating on something. Can't relate
@akaStridess
@akaStridess 4 жыл бұрын
this review sums up exactly how i feel about the game
@luismolina8406
@luismolina8406 4 жыл бұрын
I started feeling bad for loving this game when everybody was throwing hate at it. I like to see other people share this opinion on the game. I genuenly believe that people who is hating on it just didn´t bother to give it a chance when the whole Abby storyline is introduced and just try to speedrun it, I think that's why for them the ending was disappointing and the game in general. the game has it flaws and it's not perfect but I applaud the risk the took to tell the story they wanted to.
@archieryan9015
@archieryan9015 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100%. I fucking loved this game.
@Mychel_Nox
@Mychel_Nox 4 жыл бұрын
@TLOU2 is GOTY in 2020 Not only is it related to tribalism, the story mirrors what’s happening in real life almost perfectly. STORY: You meet Abby as the villain. Your impression of her is pretty much set. Then you get to see through her eyes and need to re-evaluate your own stance on things. Some people can, some can not. REAL LIFE: You get to see a new enemy on the horizon in the form of „woke video game narratives“ 🙄 via the leaks. This first bad impression festers within you. Then the game comes out. You now see (or should at least), that much of what was in the leaks, was with very little context and much was just flat out wrong. Now you could re-evaluate your perceptions of the game, examine it for what it is. Some could, some could not. The underlying mechanism in both scenarios would be called „confirmation bias“, which basically just means, that we tend to seek out information, which already supports our preexisting perceptions of how things are. It is my belief, that the game would have had a much wider appeal, if the leaks would never have happened. Still not everybody would like it, but if you already spent so much time hating on a game before it even comes out, there‘s almost no coming back from this. Just like when you get told your entire life, that the WLF or the scars or the Fireflies are the enemy...
@truesdale7388
@truesdale7388 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah...no
@archieryan9015
@archieryan9015 4 жыл бұрын
@TLOU2 is GOTY in 2020 I'd agree with that 100%
@misho-shi8932
@misho-shi8932 4 жыл бұрын
Abbys presence in the game to me hinders Ellies growth. If this game either focused solely on Ellie or Abby it would have either given Ellie time to develop, or give Abby a place in the series. And they introduced Abby poorly, they could have given her an introduction that doesnt paint her in such a harsh light. First impressions are everything, and everyones impressions of Abby were poor. So that followed the character through her arc
@magallegosofficial
@magallegosofficial 4 жыл бұрын
part of me feels that if the leaks weren’t ever released there would be more love for this game. i did EVERYTHING in me to push all of that info away and it worked. i went into the game completely blind, nothing about it felt like it betrayed my experience with the first game. what i like about the last of us compared to other post apocalyptic games is that it’s grounded in reality. with that, i love that they never tried to make joel into some unkillable, god-like character. they’ve been in jackson for years so it’s given that joel’s guard was down for a while before hand. i don’t see the way joel behaved was out of character, and even if he were to be on edge during this scene it would’ve still ended the same way, it was 2 on 7 in a tiny ass room. that being an issue that most people are having is with the way joel goes out, it’s what reality is. it isn’t fair, it isn’t right but that’s how it goes. i could go on and on about how this story isn’t as bad as people are making it out to be. this is nowhere near as great as the first one but that’s doesn’t mean we can discredit what it’s trying to do. naughty dog never knew that the last of us would sit with as many people as it did, there’s no way in topping that. could there have been a better sequel to this story, possibly. but i think this game will be one of those hidden gems that people will grow to love over time
@dalipoe
@dalipoe 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gallegos and Megatron :-D I feel like i have been looking for a week for you guys. I honestly think the story was great and i never thought i would find another person who loved Abbys character.
@hagoromootsutski9058
@hagoromootsutski9058 4 жыл бұрын
Nope the game’s story direction was ass. I could debate why but if you really want to see people break down all the flaws with the game, head over to r/thelastofus2
@commiebutter8399
@commiebutter8399 4 жыл бұрын
Hagoromo Otsutski nothing like replying to a person writing a novel on why they love the game with “nope story ass” lmao 😂😂
@uhuhuh1966
@uhuhuh1966 4 жыл бұрын
CommieButter amen
@josiahphillips7102
@josiahphillips7102 4 жыл бұрын
I’m not gonna type a whole message because I’ve been doing that a lot but I went In blind and didn’t like it, I dont think it was just because of the leaks, glad you enjoyed it tho just wasn’t for me I guess
@ducket3987
@ducket3987 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly man this game wasn’t for me and I didn’t really like the direction of writing but if you like this game that’s fine with me
@benmac7552
@benmac7552 4 жыл бұрын
The majority of people talking about this game on twitter need to read this comment to learn how to respectfully conduct themselves online. It ain't hard.
@ducket3987
@ducket3987 4 жыл бұрын
@@benmac7552 yeah exactly, if you like this game I'm glad that you enjoyed it more than me but don't be an asshole to other people who don't like it and that goes for the people who didn't like it don't be an asshole to the people who enjoyed it
@misternegative4918
@misternegative4918 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that, feel like most people that didn’t like the game are just going around hating and making sure other people hate the game and telling them why they should.
@JamesBrisnehan
@JamesBrisnehan 4 жыл бұрын
@TLOU2 is GOTY in 2020 Really? What about GoW and HZD caused you to hate them? (I don't want to bash you about you about your opinions, I'm just curious. So few disliked those games) Also bold choice for an avatar name.
@jahazielo.o8804
@jahazielo.o8804 4 жыл бұрын
No body asked if you cared.......
@uchihabomber1296
@uchihabomber1296 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly when I saw both “Seattle Day 1” and that she had an upgrade menu I knew we wouldn’t be playing her for just a little bit and it did bother me
@fiel81
@fiel81 4 жыл бұрын
Yes and some abby missions are literal fetch guests like finding surgical equipment for yara only for her to get shot later
@tjppercussion
@tjppercussion 4 жыл бұрын
@@fiel81 I felt that was less of a fetch quest for Yara, so much as designated time for Abby and Lev to bond with each other, knowing where they would end up. Lev is to Abby as Ellie is to Joel, and ND wanted to give us time to understand that.
@FHD80057
@FHD80057 4 жыл бұрын
fiel81 she kills Isaac though, so it wasn’t pointless
@danielatatar1460
@danielatatar1460 4 жыл бұрын
@@fiel81 but you didn't know she will get shot.....
@louispemberton4156
@louispemberton4156 4 жыл бұрын
fiel81 that’s a weird way of looking at things. maybe we should stop treating people in hospitals cause they could just get hit by a car later
@jadevenegas8268
@jadevenegas8268 4 жыл бұрын
YOOOOO IVE BEEN WAITING FOR MORE REVIEWS LIKE THIS
@DavidPattersonTunes
@DavidPattersonTunes 4 жыл бұрын
This was a perfect summation of the game, it's plot, it's theming and it's context. I think the story and its characters are complex, which is why the original has, and this game will hold up for a long time. Each character isn't without its flaw which is what makes for such great story telling. Following a formula is easy, breaking away from it is not. Awesome video and really well put!
@lalocuellar9895
@lalocuellar9895 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree 💯
@oldmothertucker323
@oldmothertucker323 4 жыл бұрын
This game is already failing in the long run: you can go to eBay and Amazon which will show you endless used copies being sold for really cheap prices, especially considering the game literally came out about 2 weeks ago. I should mention that if you buy the game used Naughty Dog gets no money.
@TheDXJC56
@TheDXJC56 4 жыл бұрын
Characters definitely aren't complex at all, unless you consider randomly popping up conflicting actions with no motivations a form of complexity, but it's really just a bunch of plot contrivances littered about the game
@MM-hi
@MM-hi 4 жыл бұрын
@@oldmothertucker323 its sold over 4 million copies, i think its doing fine
@ca20mn
@ca20mn 4 жыл бұрын
Vicki Tucker it was the most sold game on the console all this means is the less fortunate will have an opportunity to enjoy this game as well
@shioribaka7249
@shioribaka7249 4 жыл бұрын
ABBY IS JOEL, the way she kills, the abilities she has, the items she craft, all these signs are the hints for the parallel.
@echo2413
@echo2413 4 жыл бұрын
What the fuck i didn't even think about that but it's literally true. Good evaluation!
@davitalone5567
@davitalone5567 4 жыл бұрын
And she even takes care of Lev, just like Joel and Ellie, this kind of relationship, ya know
@modpog8066
@modpog8066 4 жыл бұрын
@@davitalone5567 ellie and Joel's bond felt believable because they had like a year together, but abby and Lev's bond imo didnt fell genuine and felt forced and so rushed.
@paris-ml1gy
@paris-ml1gy 4 жыл бұрын
Davi Talone Except Abby and Lev’s relationship just felt like a washed down version of Joel and Ellie’s.
@vise_atoxity8083
@vise_atoxity8083 4 жыл бұрын
@@modpog8066 Eh I get your point but I think it works, they bond over survival experiences in my opinion. Like Abby being the girl who helped her sister through and through no matter if she was alive or dead is the biggest key. It allows Lev to open up and accept a wolf (someone that they think are marauders in comparison to them) isn't so bad and they can all be friends through peace. I hope that makes sense but yet again, it's just how I feel.
@TheGuwrovsky
@TheGuwrovsky 4 жыл бұрын
I am glad there are people feeling similar to me about the game. Thank you for this video
@dingoldoofin1806
@dingoldoofin1806 4 жыл бұрын
You really just took exactly how I felt about the game and put it into words so thanks for that
@harrybryant6046
@harrybryant6046 4 жыл бұрын
Let’s go baby been waiting for this
@alondraqsanchez
@alondraqsanchez 4 жыл бұрын
Its rare that I comment on these types of videos but I just want to say, thank you for this video. You not only perfectly explained my thoughts but added more to them. Incredible analysis.
@ampersandyyy
@ampersandyyy 4 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy I didn’t watch the trailers for this, I never watch trailers for games I know I’m going to buy and it usually makes for a better experience.
@darthhull85
@darthhull85 4 жыл бұрын
Same. I ignored trailers, leaks and anything. I bought it blind and let my own thoughts provide opinion. I finished it and loved it. I don’t like letting the views of others taint my experience.
@StayFractalesque
@StayFractalesque 4 жыл бұрын
hey man, I really appreciate your thoughtful commentary.. you pretty much covered all of it, I hope everyone finds your video no matter which side they're on.. cheers man.. subbed.
@adamsparks8956
@adamsparks8956 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so well made. I love them.
@comicscodeauthority3920
@comicscodeauthority3920 4 жыл бұрын
Joel died because of revenge, when Ellie lets go of revenge, she brings Joels memory back to life. ( 24:31 your not supposed to like it your supposed to be conflicted, thats what makes The Last Of us, The Last Of Us )
@nightninjajay1808
@nightninjajay1808 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU. Finally....
@KeangoDLuke
@KeangoDLuke 4 жыл бұрын
Just like game of thrones season 8, the execution, not the message, is where it fell short for many people
@bobsmith7140
@bobsmith7140 4 жыл бұрын
THIS^
@uhuhuh1966
@uhuhuh1966 4 жыл бұрын
Luke Keango the execution is fantastic, only the pacing is shoddy at times. All of the character motivations are established in this unlike Daenerys going full psycho.
@KeangoDLuke
@KeangoDLuke 4 жыл бұрын
@@uhuhuh1966 pacing is part of the execution. Also placement of flashbacks and general structure of the gameplay in terms of when and for how long you play as Abby or Ellie. If all these were done better imo, there'd be less complaints.
@BTbenTR
@BTbenTR 4 жыл бұрын
You summed up my thoughts for the whole game! Especially at the farm when you're ready to let it go but then you get the thirst for revenge again, perfectly explained and you have a new subscriber. Keep it up.
@Ricardo29j
@Ricardo29j 4 жыл бұрын
The best review in KZbin 😭 💔
@lonislan
@lonislan 4 жыл бұрын
The unexpected elevated Part II. Thumbs up man, at last someone that understands games and storytelling!!
@gamingwithroxy1226
@gamingwithroxy1226 4 жыл бұрын
I just finished this game and I feel the same the way
@mpihler
@mpihler 4 жыл бұрын
I think they put troy baker in the trailer because they wanted to show joel's importance in Ellie's Journey. Ellie seems to draw guidance and stength from memories and flashbacks connected to her relationship with Joel. Especially in the end where her last memory with Joel is what stops her from going farther down the road of anger and vengence, killing abby.
@haykisayan2206
@haykisayan2206 4 жыл бұрын
I can totally see why people don't like it. But damn, I absolutely love it.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 4 жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head, very well said. People seem to forget the first game had an incredibly cliche plot that was uplifted to greatness through character, morality and themes. This game is the perfect extension of all the things that made the first game great, but it goes the extra mile to not just offer us a moral dilemma, but to show us a path to absolution. As you said, it is bittersweet, for all the tragedy Ellie goes through, she is shown how to rebuild, how to heal and how to forgive.
@mrshen4504
@mrshen4504 4 жыл бұрын
From just being half way through the video I have to say this is the best video on tlou 2 on the platform, finally someone who gives a refreshing perspective and doesn't shit on the game just for views! Awesome video 👌
@user-Marrk
@user-Marrk 4 жыл бұрын
That's funny, because I am half way through and I am listening to someone making excuses for the over reliance on flashbacks, which add to the terrible pacing, making the game overlong. Never mind having to hamfist a new character in there and having to use cheap manipulation tactics to try and get people to like her. While he ain't 10/10 best ever bad, he is certainly doing his best to polish a turd when in reality naughty dog should never have went in this direction.
@taiyafadare3602
@taiyafadare3602 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-Marrk Cool u have that opinion but instead of saying that the ppl who love the game are "making excuses" maybe they just love the game and see it a different way then you do. Just like I wouldn't say u not liking the game means your " a hater trying to ignore the games brilliance to jump on hate train" because I realise that maybe u just have a different opinion and thats OK.
@mrshen4504
@mrshen4504 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-Marrk although I do like the game, the video is great because it's like the only one on KZbin that talks about the story and philosophy of the game, whereas there is so many channels just shitting on the game for views, for instance talking about Neil druckmanns Twitter?!? 🤷 This video is intelligent in the way he articulates his points
@user-Marrk
@user-Marrk 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrshen4504 I would agree with you till you say they only do it for the views, implying they are wrong to shit on it because it isn't shit. When in actuality, it is shit.
@mrshen4504
@mrshen4504 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-Marrk I'm not implying that at all 🤷🤦 just because you don't like the story doesn't mean it's a bad game the visuals and gameplay are top notch and whether you like the script or not the acting and dialogue is some of the best in the industry, it doesn't deserve 0/10 cos "I don't like Abby"
@NetroxSM
@NetroxSM 4 жыл бұрын
I also think that the final fight between Ellie and Abby on the beach mirrors the beginning of TLoU1. Abby carrying Lev in her arms parallels Joel carrying Sarah and Ellie represents the soldier that is about to kill them. Ellie is the one in power as she has all the guns and the knife while Abby and Lev are powerless; hurt and almost unable to defend themselves due to fatigue of being hung on the poles for a long time. Abby and Lev are about to escape on the boat just like Joel and Sarah were supposed to when reaching the highway but Ellie stands in their way and wants to kill Abby. It could also be one of the reasons that Ellie decided to spare them. She could have thought of the photo of Joel and Sarah and she knows how much pain Joel has gone through when he lost his daughter. Ellie then decides to spare Abby to save Lev from the fate that her own surrogate father has gone through. Just a few thoughts of mine after playing through that battle. Don't know if that's cohesive but I hope it is.
@patrickfry1000
@patrickfry1000 4 жыл бұрын
Finally a fair take that from somebody who actually understood the game! You just earned a subscriber!
@yousefNY
@yousefNY 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else think that if Joel's death hadn't been leaked, then it won't have the same hate it has now??
@benmarshall6762
@benmarshall6762 4 жыл бұрын
Yea definitely
@shayla7683
@shayla7683 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@jaredulloa7861
@jaredulloa7861 Жыл бұрын
No , the reaction would have been *worse* if people hadn't known about it
@_Juukbox_
@_Juukbox_ 4 жыл бұрын
When the dusts settles, we may look at this game much differently than we do now...
@kobi-wanaenobi7080
@kobi-wanaenobi7080 4 жыл бұрын
yes, I have been watching this game on youtube again (not the whole gameplay just the main story) and I'm liking it more. I mean it sucks that Joel dies... man, This game really leaves you depressed.
@gregwxst
@gregwxst 4 жыл бұрын
yup, will be remembered as one of the greatest games ever made
@aldinvejzovic3782
@aldinvejzovic3782 4 жыл бұрын
@@gregwxst hahahahahahaha
@cynicalidealist11
@cynicalidealist11 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think so to.
@sascha3786
@sascha3786 4 жыл бұрын
Now I can appreciate the ending Thanks James this is probably my favourite game of all time
@Ricardo29j
@Ricardo29j 4 жыл бұрын
Girlfriend Reviews kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJmYmK19qJJpabs LazerzZ kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHjOZ4pofb2rn5I Nathan Zed kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3uQfayVlK11gMk
@rikk29j91
@rikk29j91 4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to leave here links of reviews best reviews that don't talk shit about the game so you can understand more about the story , I'm also I'm going to leave this here : By Cynical Idealist The hatred that Ellie feels for Abby is an externalized reflection of the hatred Ellie harbors for herself. Why? Well Joel deeply hurt both Abby and Ellie in different ways and they both punished him for it. Ellie hates Abby for torturing Joel to death, especially because she didn't get a chance to restore her relationship with Joel. This is a mirror because Ellie also tortured Joel, she did it for years but in a different way, and I'd say in a way that was more painful for Joel, and that was by disconnecting from him. She hates herself for torturing him like that and not restoring their relationship when there was still time. That's the real pain she has been trying to avoid facing during this entire revenge quest, she's like a drug addict using revenge to avoid dealing with those painful feelings of regret. This is the realization she has while she is drowning Abby when she has the flashback to the scene on the porch with Joel and chooses to Spare Abby. She's not just forgiving Abby, she's really most importantly forgiving herself and finally coming to terms with what happened between her and Joel, I think her leaving his guitar to rest in the house and walking away is supposed to symbolically represent that she has forgiven Joel, made peace with what happened between them and is finally ready to move on and start a new life. I hated the end at first but after much deliberation I think it's actually really poetic, People saying the game is just about "revenge is bad" I think have really missed the point.
@alangonzalezmartinez8189
@alangonzalezmartinez8189 4 жыл бұрын
I like how you acknowledge the flaws of the game but you are not violent when you speak about them or hateful. I think this game will age well as well and people will come to terms with what it is. I'm just thankful that I got to experience the way game have evolved and what the game industry has become now. Just this last decade I got to experience games like The Witcher, God of War, TLOU1/2, Spider-Man, Breath of The Wild, FF7 Remake and so many more. I'm an avid reader and I must acknowledge that some games stories are at pair with literature nowadays and this game is the perfect example of this.
@STATHISTYMPAS
@STATHISTYMPAS 4 жыл бұрын
This literally how I feel! Thanks for posting this!
@jakbeasley
@jakbeasley 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to this video, you’ve earned a subscriber. You’re one of the few voices out there that have seen the game for what it truly is. A beautifully visceral story. Keep up the great work, I’m going to check through your backlog of videos now. 👌🏼
@TheJourneysofPandaMan
@TheJourneysofPandaMan 4 жыл бұрын
Your thoughts on the game almost mirror mine exactly, like from the reactions to certain moments and the interpretations that you have it’s honestly nice to hear someone else has those same thoughts. Great video btw 👍🏼
@shanecunningham5802
@shanecunningham5802 4 жыл бұрын
What a surprisingly healthy outlook and objective analysis. I loved this review! Well, done!
@ToothyMTG
@ToothyMTG 4 жыл бұрын
Good to hear a guy who puts all the pieces correctly.
@tealino1
@tealino1 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I found myself unable to forgive Abby, but I realise now that I didn't try to or want to, in fact I intentionally closed myself to that possibility as soon as she killed Joel and refused to sympathise with her from then on. However I do believe that I could have potentially been more likely to sympathise with Abby if they had made us see her perspective before she killed Joel then I wouldn't have been so closed to her.
@TheOutsider69
@TheOutsider69 4 жыл бұрын
Then you would have hated Abby at the END. They frontloaded Abby killing Joel in the beginning so that you hate her at first but then learn to sympathize with her.
@3kslayerrrrr
@3kslayerrrrr 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think your meant to forgive her. Your meant to understand her perspective and I think I did , it’s all personal , and it is very divisive but I respect your opinion 🙏
@maulcs
@maulcs 4 жыл бұрын
There's no reason to forgive her - she's an unlikable person who shows no sympathy for any of her actions (unlike Ellie). After torturing Joel, she even mentions how she's like to torture the prisoners we see, and Tommy if she got a hold of him.
@jurziielam90
@jurziielam90 4 жыл бұрын
I cannot forgive Abby either because you say to look in Abby‘s perspective what about Joels in his perspective they are just killing a 14-year-old who was his daughter and he knows that he did something bad but he does it because they’re going to kill someone who is close to him at that point and he says a valid point in the flashback world Joel kills the Bloater That was about to kill Ellie at the end of it in the Argument he said that he saw the test And it would’ve failed The in the last of us The flyer flies are shown to be be pretty dumb like getting almost everyone killed and how about almost killing that precious cure when Joel is trying to save her obviously
@johnnycampos1760
@johnnycampos1760 4 жыл бұрын
This. This is exactly how it seems most people feel and it makes me so sad because if they open up a little bit rather than just covering their ears and screaming, I think they'd have a much better experience... But unfortunately most people saw the leaks and made up their minds going into the game intentionally wanting to hate it or they didn't and they saw Joel die and didn't want to try to understand Abby's motivation. There is no grey area in their eyes... Joel died, they hate it, and that's it
@KaoticVibes
@KaoticVibes 4 жыл бұрын
yes, i had a very good time listening to this. Really been hella engaged in your content. Your quickly becoming a top tier Tuber in my eyes. I can't wait for the full breakdown
@dimitrisamprazis9170
@dimitrisamprazis9170 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, you just nailed it !! It was the most truthful and close to reality, in terms of what this game wanted to deliver and not what players wanted from this game, break down I've watched so far. Kudos! Absolutely loved it!
@Necrophat
@Necrophat 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone reviewing the game with an open mind, loved listening to this, great review.
@armani_kubo6838
@armani_kubo6838 4 жыл бұрын
I just finished the game today and I agree 101%, I think the game is phenomenal and is a game that I can call an experience because of how much emotion was put and into this and how much emotion I put into this, 10/10 game I wish I could relive again
@alexei_roberts4189
@alexei_roberts4189 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid dude, looked at stuff thoroughly from both angles and made some great points. Keep it up 👌
@Gman07024
@Gman07024 4 жыл бұрын
I subed ages ago because we share similar perspectives on games but man you have taken the thoughts that i couldnt make into words and got them spot on
@keridinsmore5181
@keridinsmore5181 4 жыл бұрын
the beauty and the quality and the legacy of the game is the fact that it made us feel so many emotions so strongly--I alternated between bawling my eyes out, screaming incoherently, and laughing and smiling (in those short bursts of happy times the game allowed us to have) and it has made me reflect on my own relationships with my family. I, for one, will be entirely satisfied if there is no Part III because I honestly don't think I can handle another emotional rollercoaster like this
@snaak25
@snaak25 4 жыл бұрын
when abby found out her friends were killed she thought it was tommy
@marioslrzn
@marioslrzn 4 жыл бұрын
snaak25 She also was looking for Tommy at the beginning of the game, they didn’t know where Joel was. People miss that , they think she’s there in Jackson for Joel
@afraidsari
@afraidsari 4 жыл бұрын
Why does she say “you killed my friends” to ellie
@murugesankarthikeyan7821
@murugesankarthikeyan7821 4 жыл бұрын
Think so.
@neoguyver10
@neoguyver10 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on video, you literally put into words everything I felt about this game, especially the many parallels littered throughout the story. Glad you formulated your own opinion and not gone in wanting to hate it.
@PH3NOM246
@PH3NOM246 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being a youtuber who saw the beauty of this game and it’s story
@jordan7031
@jordan7031 4 жыл бұрын
Been waiting to hear your opinion on the game. I'm happy to see a pretty positive comment section about this game for once. I agree wholeheartedly that this game's message is great and is so much more than what some people paint it out to be
@jadevenegas8268
@jadevenegas8268 4 жыл бұрын
Same dude I agreed with everything he’s said
@edwardjones1482
@edwardjones1482 4 жыл бұрын
Jade Venegas I agree with him too idk there’s hate for this game some people just like to nitpick on things and hate on them for dumb reasons because their selfish and want everything done there way
@edwardjones1482
@edwardjones1482 4 жыл бұрын
Jade Venegas i meant idk why there’s hate
@James-vq4jw
@James-vq4jw 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this. I feel 100% the same about this game and wish people would just watch this.
@MiketheEye
@MiketheEye 4 жыл бұрын
Oh shit is that the Scar skyscraper bridge at 13:29? Loving this review man. You're nailing it.
@mad8598
@mad8598 4 жыл бұрын
So glad this showed up in my recommended videos. The best and most articulate positive mini review I’ve seen so far.
@danielfitzgerald5488
@danielfitzgerald5488 4 жыл бұрын
I actually thought this was great it revolves around revenge showing that Ellie and Joel weren't heros like in the first game
@ak_knight5536
@ak_knight5536 4 жыл бұрын
This opened my eyes thank u for this vid!
@adz3291
@adz3291 4 жыл бұрын
The best review for this game 😌
@Silvestre95
@Silvestre95 4 жыл бұрын
There are two points I don't agree. First, no one was expecting a Hollywood sequel. In fact, pretty much everyone was expecting Joel to die. People just wanted that the characters were treated with respect. And what it seems is that Neil Druckmann was eager to kill Joel and just put Abby in the game. No one wants a Hollywood sequel, but The Last of Us is Joel and Ellie, not Abby and Ellie. Second, Joel did bad things, but Abby is on a whole new level. Several years have passed since her dad died and when she encounters Joel, he actually saves her several times! But she didn't even blink when he said his name, she killed him in a barbaric way without even thinking twice. When did Joel do that? When did Ellie do that? Comparing Ellie killing the pregnant woman is not fair, because it was in self defence. If Ellie was in the same situation, I'm sure she would be merciful. A final point I want to add is: WTF is wrong with Abby's physique?! How are there steroids in a world where food is scarce? And if there are steroids, how is she the only one using it?? She is the biggest character in the entire the game. It's ridiculous. This obsession with strong female characters is tiring and just does a disservice to ACTUAL strong female characters. Abby is the pinnacle of that obsession. She looks so much like a man that people thought she was a transgender. How is that empowering women?
@austincox8506
@austincox8506 4 жыл бұрын
I can see this aging very well in about a year or two
@kennyc6327
@kennyc6327 4 жыл бұрын
Dude. This was such a welcome video to come across. I share pretty much exactly the same thoughts as you.
@justingabriel1765
@justingabriel1765 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who isn’t trying to burn the game at the stake lmao 😂
@Co1Der
@Co1Der 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video
@Mess_99
@Mess_99 4 жыл бұрын
You really understood the way this game was meant to be played and I totally agree with you
@RunicLuke
@RunicLuke 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with pretty much everything in this video. I loved this game. It was such a brutal experience, and took so many more risks than most games do, but I really think it nailed it.
@antonkravets5026
@antonkravets5026 4 жыл бұрын
This is so close to my take on this game. Thanx for the video, man. I like ac stuff. But this video shows that we are on the same page on narrative.
@daveboytellem
@daveboytellem 4 жыл бұрын
You’ve actually changed my perspective on this games story. It’s not just a black and story about revenge.
@lucidkylix7332
@lucidkylix7332 4 жыл бұрын
You are tyhe one that understand the history of the game and y7ou deserved a like that way people can understand more the events and everything nice video!!!!!
@davidlowery2924
@davidlowery2924 4 жыл бұрын
Good review keep it up Dude
@owenzhub
@owenzhub 4 жыл бұрын
I must be the only one who was actually looking forward to playing as Abby. I loved Joel and I was devastated, but due to the leaks, I already knew Abby's reason. I didn't like what she did but I understood it. What Joel did, which went a lot further than just saving Ellie, wasn't going to go unanswered. I really wanted to see how the game was going to get me to sympathize with Abby. I think it's brilliant. I wish I could have gone into it blind though.
@vise_atoxity8083
@vise_atoxity8083 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing I knew going in was the golf club part because people love spoiling shit in comments.
@emotionalsupportostrich2480
@emotionalsupportostrich2480 4 жыл бұрын
I knew most of the game thanks to spoilers and leaks before I played, you could tell from the adverts that Joel was going to die. Some of the leaks were incorrect. Didn’t ruin the game it actually help understand the plot.
@yoavmendelson2007
@yoavmendelson2007 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think even I could sum up my feelings for this game better than you could. Amazing video!
@ChadMichaelSimon
@ChadMichaelSimon 3 жыл бұрын
Also, can we give a shout out to the role music plays in this story, the dual score between Gustavo and Mac, and the pitch-perfect song choices? Gah. So good. I created a TLOU2 playlist in my Amazon Music including: Three Crooked Still songs. “Ecstasy” is the kiss scene dance song that Ellie also starts to play before that flashback. I can’t get enough of it. Just perfectly hits the melancholy of Ellie with notes of optimism. It reminds me a lot of the main “The Last of Us” theme. “The Winding Sheet” by Mark Lanegan is the tape Owen leaves playing in the aquarium when Abby arrives, before she finds him in the boat. Good lord that’s an amazing pick for where his brain is. He’s tortured. And The Black Angels song “Young Men Dead,” which was one of my favorite music-moment-setting-purpose picks of all time. It’s the Zeppelin/Doors-esque song that’s playing in the final Rattler area by the pools. It is exactly what they’d be playing and launched that moment into a Heart of Darkness, Apocalypse Now stratosphere.
@julcom9394
@julcom9394 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not a bitter sweet ending. Ellie is left with nothing. She loses Dina, and her adoptive son, she loses her fingers so she can’t play guitar, she’s permanently traumatised, she’s lost her relationship with the town of Jackson as both Dina and Tommy hate her, she loses Joel, she loses Jessie, she even loses her horse. This entire game is nothing but watching a fan favourite character be tortured. Ellie is 16 in the game (I could be wrong). Regardless, she’s extremely young, and by the end of it she’s caused a damn genocide, and still hasn’t gotten her revenge. She instead chooses to take the moral high ground over a psychopathic antagonist who gets to walk away and have a future with the fireflys. Whilst she gets to rot in the enteral hellsnape that is her mind, suffering from trauma and guilt. She’s a broken person and I felt no sense of a bitter sweet ending. There’s sympathetic Abby you play as for 5 mins when she loses her dad, but then there’s also the sadist Abby who smashes dinas face in and you press square on multiple times to choke out Ellie. This entire game is a punching bag with Ellie’s face. I hate this game, it tells a bold and decisive story yes, but it left me feeling not an inch of hope for the characters I love, Everyone’s either personality traumatised or scared, or just dead. If you want to give someone depression, play the last of us.
@demerdan4536
@demerdan4536 4 жыл бұрын
Ik u said u could be wrong but she’s 19 in the game
@jjjj7589
@jjjj7589 4 жыл бұрын
She's not left with nothing. Materially, yes. But she can now live with herself. She wasn't going to be able to live with Dina, before she learned to live with herself. That's what her journey is about - closure with Joel and with herself. The rage at Abby and WLF is real too, but it's mostly a distraction from her internal rage. That's the reason she lets Abby go. It isn't the dumb "rEvEngE iS bAd" meme idiots keep repeating. She has that specific memory of Joel on the porch, where she says, "I would like to try" and that's the closest she'll ever get to having a resolution with Joel. They were essentially estranged, and their relationship was never fully repaired when he was taken away, and she realizes it never will be. She already had what she was looking for, and killing Abby won't make it better. Neither Ellie nor Abby are psychopaths, nor was Joel or Marlene or anyone else. They're just people. They do terrible things, but often for justifiable reasons. The game is about making you understand why people take revenge, and then saying maybe revenge isn't really what you're after. It's easy to mistake that for saying revenge is never the answer, but the game is not actually saying that. It's just saying revenge is relatable. So in the end, Ellie is heartbroken and damaged, but she's not a lost soul. She finally has herself. When Joel tells her that Dina would be lucky to have her, he's also telling her she's lucky to have herself. She would never have gotten that lesson if the game had ended at the farmhouse (unless she finds a psychotherapist.)
@chrisbellamy7145
@chrisbellamy7145 4 жыл бұрын
I stopped reading when you said "Ellie is 16 in the game"
@chrisbellamy7145
@chrisbellamy7145 4 жыл бұрын
The thing is life itself doesn't care, especially post apocalyptic life. Knowing that is what separates people who like this game from people who can't accept this game.
@julcom9394
@julcom9394 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Bellamy can’t accept this game because it’s a post apocalypse? Dude the first game is also post apocalypse and ends bitter sweet but hopeful for Joel and Ellie being alive. There’s no “the world doesn’t care bro” it’s a story that naughty dog can write. And they chose to go for gut lunch after gut punch on Ellie. She doesn’t grow and change over the game she just get traumatised and depressed, it offers nothing. It’s like John wick never got revenge for his dog, didnt get a new dog, and didn’t kill the Russian prick.
@sunn0877
@sunn0877 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on review. This game absolutely wrecked me.
@trocc3149
@trocc3149 4 жыл бұрын
Yea I agree with u too. It’s crazy once u finish the game and look at the whole perspective!!!
@deadredveloz242
@deadredveloz242 Жыл бұрын
This is my interpretation of the ending in The Last of Us Part 2. After Abby attempts to break the cycle of violence by sparing Ellie and Dina, there is a time skip. Ellie and Dina are out on their farm. While Dina has been able to grieve healthily, Ellie can't. She is still suffering from the loss of Joel and Jessie, and she blames herself for all of it. She isn't eating, sleeping, is having horrific PTSD episodes, and having suicidal thoughts. She doesn't know how she can get over her pain and grief. Then, Tommy visits, and since he lost his brother, Maria, and his mobility, he has been obsessing over getting revenge, similar to Ellie. When he shows her Abby's location, while she initially rejects the idea of going after her, the option is there and festers in her mind. She decides to go, not just because she wants to avenge Joel and Jesse, but because she believes it's the only way for her to get over her pain and grief. She decides to go in spite of her and Dina's relationship. She fights her way through Santa Barbara to find and kill Abby. Except when she sees Abby, she is strung up on a pillar. She has endured more pain and torture than Ellie could ever give her. She frees her and sees her go over to Lev to save him. She feels conflicted. The girl she came to kill has already suffered and sees herself and Joel in Abby and Lev. Abby leads her to the boats, and Ellie considers leaving, but her blood reminds her of what Abby did to Joel, bringing back her pain. Ellie wants to fight Abby. Not for revenge but to fix her pain. She doesn't care if Abby or herself die. She doesn't want to kill Abby or herself, but she is tired of suffering. She wants it to end. In her mind, her suffering will be fixed no matter who dies. When Ellie gets the upper hand and starts drowning Abby, distraught with her goal at her fingertips, she gets her first positive flashback of Joel, remembering their last night together. She realizes that killing Abby won't fix her pain and isn't what Joel would've wanted. She never just blamed Abby for taking Joel away from her. She also blamed herself for not being able to forgive him sooner. That's what her entire revenge story has been about. She wanted to avenge Joel, as she believed she owed it to him, but the porch flashback reminded her that all he wanted was for her to live a fulfilling, happy life. By sparing Abby, she not only ends the cycle of violence but is also able to forgive herself and learn to grieve healthily. It also puts her on the path of redemption.
@rossturner7281
@rossturner7281 4 жыл бұрын
My friend you have absolutely nailed this review, finally someone that sees the game for how it was aimed to be portrayed, you got yourself a new subscriber, fantastic work 👏
@archieryan9015
@archieryan9015 4 жыл бұрын
Facts man. So many of these other user reviewers are just angry that they didn't get the game they expected and therefore saw it as "bad".
@aldinvejzovic3782
@aldinvejzovic3782 4 жыл бұрын
@@archieryan9015 Almost every reviewer goes in about the depth of the story and the badly written story and characters.
@digitallee8887
@digitallee8887 4 жыл бұрын
I loved this game and I wasn’t even that hyped for it after seeing the leaks but I’m so glad i was wrong to hate on it, the game being compared to the last Jedi breaks my heart lol
@edwardjones1482
@edwardjones1482 4 жыл бұрын
I love the game too and the story isn’t all that bad as everyone makes it seem I like playing as both Abby and Ellie I think there hating on it because they wanna play as Joel but he’s dead and there confused with the story
@kickass2733
@kickass2733 4 жыл бұрын
They say if you liked the last Jedi then you may like this game lmao
@bedi4090
@bedi4090 4 жыл бұрын
@@joaco21o that is very weird lol, the way they handled this game feels like how that move was handled, but aye respect your opinion.
@edwardjones1482
@edwardjones1482 4 жыл бұрын
Ruben Gaytan lol I didn’t like the last jedi but I liked this
@lxix5968
@lxix5968 4 жыл бұрын
Ruben Gaytan I enjoy the last Jedi and this game. I like the last Jedi just because it’s easy to like for someone who isn’t a virgin nerd. I love Star Wars but I really don’t give a shit if someone dies. I like this game because of how complex and interesting it is
@calebwilliams8968
@calebwilliams8968 4 жыл бұрын
Well said! What you explained is exactly how I feel about this game. It was so bittersweet I was speechless. Great video!
@muhammadfarhannadzrie8311
@muhammadfarhannadzrie8311 4 жыл бұрын
Love the video, explains a lot ♥️
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