A Thorough Critique of The Obi-Wan Series

[@theminecraft2516]

Dude me and the boys cried at Wade’s death. Such an amazing scene of an amazing character. You will be missed Wade

[@a_agadir3964]

I unironically want a entire show on the backstory of Wade, it would probably be better than Kenobi no cap

[@theminecraft2516]

Better Call Wade, the Better Call Saul of Starwars

[@onemoreminute0543]

Wade: A Star Wars Story

[@KarpeNoctem]

@@onemoreminute0543 Somehow Wade returned

[@annoyingguy9939]

​@@KarpeNoctem The Rise of Wade

[@LazerzZ]

Did this show kill Star Wars? Well obviously not financially and commercially, Star Wars is going strong and will continue to do so. But I do believe the show was exceptionally insulting for people like me who want to see some amount of depth and substance to this IP and with it using characters from my childhood there's an extra layer of frustration. Obi-Wan killed Star Wars, metaphorically, for me... So join me in an in-depth look at exactly WHY the show killed everything I love about Star Wars so completely and thoroughly.

[@Liam-co1bw]

na. the last jedi killed star wars. rise of skywalker was the nail in the coffin

[@lewis821]

glad to see “for me…” made it in somewhere lol

[@killgriffinnow]

The Sequel Trilogy, perhaps the worst big budget trilogy of films in history that butchered a beloved Saga and destroyed all the characters : Nah, this is fine, Star Wars is still doing great! Obi Wan Kenobi, an overall decent series with only a few problematic scenes: STAR WARS IS DEAD NOW!!! Incredibly bizarre take, bordering on click bait.

[@chocogamer5398]

Sorry to see you didn’t enjoy it lazzer. might I recommend Star Wars visions if You haven’t seen it yet?

[@a.jordan9288]

@@Liam-co1bw definitely. After Obiwan I ironically went back to watch the PrequelT and OT and ngl the series enhanced something in them. The nostalgia bait worked and I have no shame to say it. But the sequels...jeez. They made rewatch the previous trilogies but to erase the Disney trilogy from my memory.

[@titanbro5871]

In the novelization of revenge of the sith, when obi wan left Anakin on Mustafar there were two reasons as to why he didn't kill him. The high ground he was on was actual high ground so if he went down to try and finish the job he would've risked falling into the lava and the second reason was that he saw Palpatines ship come down, so even if he safely came down and killed Anakin there was just no way he would've made it back up in time before the emperor would find him.

[@chrisquinn3377]

Simple answer is he couldn't bring himself to finish him off and assumed he would have burned alive which he would have if he wasn't found so quickly

[@ashtonjohnson4336]

he coulda just force pushed anakin into the lava

[@titanbro5871]

@@ashtonjohnson4336 he was too emotional at the time and couldn't bring himself to do it, he also thought Anakin would just die from his wounds

[@trumpflavourednugget9325]

@@titanbro5871 is this stated in the novel or are you headconing it as an explanation for why he didn't force push anakin?

[@titanbro5871]

@@trumpflavourednugget9325 it was multiple reasons, not feeling merciful, Palpatine was coming, not the Jedi way, also Anakin probably had a force barrier(this one is headcanon)

[@RadinV1]

Can't wait for half the comments to ignore every point in the whole video and just write "Ackschually it isn't dead cause it makes money". Gonna be wonderful.

[@rangerghost2474]

I’ve never seen someone spell actually with the nerd voice. And I love that lmao

[@thijmen5295]

Assassins creed RPG defenders:

[@RadinV1]

@@thijmen5295 ah yes my favorite type of people thanks for reminding me they exist.

[@thijmen5295]

@@RadinV1 vAlHaLla AnD OdYsSEy HaVE SoLd ThE mOSt aMoUnT oF cOpIEs iN tHe FraNcHiSe So iT hAS tO bE bEtTeR tHaN tHoSe GaRbAGe eZio gAmeS

[@a.jordan9288]

Even them should acknowledge how the $$$ gain decreased. We just gotta see how the rise of Skywalker did a lot less than the force awakens like only half of it which is yikes. Obi-wan is average tho.

[@lukew6725]

You never mentioned about how strange it is that Bail wants Obi-Wan specifically to rescue Leia. At this point, Bail is part of the galactic senate so it should be no problem for him to get help from the Empire in finding and rescuing Leia.

[@jaieregilmore971]

Also is it weird that Leia didn’t had bodyguard the whole time?

[@oneironaut420]

This is actually addressed in the show. Guess you just formed your opinion about it without even watching it.

[@willfanofmanyii3751]

It shows how much Disney doesn't pay attention to what Lucas set in stone, and several things in the Obi-Wan show proves this again. Course the writer saying he didn't watch Episode III proves this anyway, lol. Padme telling Obi-Wan there's still good in Anakin, was the moment he learned Anakin was alive.

[@trumpflavourednugget9325]

The writer literally didn't watch the movie that this show is meant to be a sequel to. Incredible

[@malachiguarnieri7215]

How on Earth do we continue to hear of writers who have not seen/read a massive, influential piece in their medium? Why the hell are they in this business

[@jaieregilmore971]

Wow it really prove that Disney doesn’t follow there own canon at all.

[@jaieregilmore971]

33:21 the weird thing is why didn’t Vader slash her head off? If he remembered stabbing her in the gut why didn’t he fix his mistake. Too many people survive lightsabers blows is my huge complaints.

[@onemoreminute0543]

I'm actually kind of disappointed that my cynical thoughts about this show (ever since it was announced) have come to be proven right. "Kenobi is sad!" - Yes, we saw that at the end of ROTS "Kenobi must protect Luke!" - Yes, we saw that in ANH "Kenobi and Vader are going to have the rematch of the century! Awww yeaaah!" - Yes, we saw that in ANH

[@user-oj5jr8rm4z]

I also feel that some of the flashbacks should have also come from the clone wars not just the movies

[@rik5384]

That would require research and some thought put into the writing😉

[@ItsCoopBTW]

Yeah dude the Star Wars writers would have to know Star Wars. Gosh y’all nerdy fans are all the same with your lofty expectations 😂

[@CommandoMaster]

Writers are garbage. Disney is just incompetent.

[@stangsandwangs258]

I agree , It’s funny he had flashbacks about scenes that he wasn’t even in lmao

[@jaieregilmore971]

Till this days they should had clone wars flash back I seen art of Hayden and ewain in clone wars Anakin and Obi Wan Jedi general armor outfits it look awesome why didn’t they have Dave filoni doing an episode.

[@chasehedges6775]

The actress playing Leia is sooo adorable and cute. She was the best part of the show, along with Ewan. Everything else was mediocre.

[@Longshanks1690]

Obi Wan was just depressingly unambitious. This was a show that could have given us a dive into Obi Wan’s psychology as he tries to recover from the loss of Anakin towards being the hopeful mentor he was in ANH, it could have given us the closure on their relationship that ROTS left intentionally vague, flashbacks that gave real depth and meaning to their journey now and above all been an opportunity for some amazing scenes that would be fan favourites for years… And what did we get instead? An escort quest for Leia, Deborah’s shaky cam fetish on display, utterly mediocre music, time being taken up by the utterly pointless character of Reva, pointless characters no one will remember in a year’s time and some of the most bizarrely moronic writing choices since… well since the last bizarrely moronic Star Wars series that Disney created. Of all the shows, this was the one where I thought the most care and attention would be put on it as they knew just how important it was and while it was nowhere near as awful as Boba Fett, that almost makes it worse. This should be a series that leaps into the clouds and shines like a beacon for all these lesser series of how to do justice to these characters… and it just doesn’t. Even at the things it does right, it still doesn’t achieve the maximum potential that these scenes have and that’s the biggest failure of Obi Wan; it settled for being below average at best when it could have been as memorable as TCW S7. But aside from the final duel, is there a single moment or character anyone will remember as having any kind of long term impact whatsoever? Probably not, and that’s just depressing to realise.

[@TheGamerGuy171]

Cool review, I definitely agree with a lot of your criticisms. One problem I had with the show was its premise in the first place. Vader and Obi-Wan never should have met in between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope and their meeting in this undermines the original trilogy. The first thing Vader says to Obi-Wan in A New Hope is "When I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master". It also really bugged me that Obi-Wan was able to defeat Vader in episode 6. The whole reason Obi-Wan spent 20 years on Tatooine protecting Luke was because Luke was the Galaxy's only hope. He was the only hope the Jedi had of defeating Vader and overthrowing the Sith. If Obi-Wan has it in him to own Vader then there was never any reason to even have the original trilogy or to even have him protect Luke. Also, the series sets up that Obi-Wan can get the best of Vader because he knows him and he knows his weaknesses but in that final fight Obi-Wan just overwhelms Vader with raw power, he doesn't at all outsmart him in that fight. I definitely agree with you on how stupid it was Obi-Wan just walked away. That fight should have ended in Obi-Wan making a cool escape and getting the better of Vader in that way.

[@Garthydude12]

I'm in complete agreement with this! As soon as it was announced I was concerned they'd shoe horn another fight in. It just takes away all meaning from the originals.

[@CommandoMaster]

That fight should have ended in Obi-Wan killing Vader. Unless a Star Destroyer falls in between them, there's no other way logically to end that scene.

[@JonP1245]

Glad to see there’re still sane people left 😮‍💨

[@NiceOCGuy1981]

@@Garthydude12 that's why there trying to kill Star Wars. They want to erase the Canon of the originals.

[@elric5371]

Obi wan is more powerful than Vader though Luke was the only hope to defeat the sith which is the emperor not Vader alone. I thought the duel was good.

[@juliet4093]

In what way do the prequels not make sense, is there poor scene direction? Yes! Rushed arcs? Yes! But do they make sense? Yes they make perfect sense

[@hian]

The best part of this show is that it gave us more material for the Larry Kenobi series. More dance-battles under the influence of "midichlorians".

[@reecenotryhs]

Can't wait to see this! I ended up feeling similarly by the end of the series, so I guess you might say this is the video for me.

[@SleepyGrapes]

Ngl I’m not watching this video but we’ve been saying “insert Star Wars media here” killed Star Wars for me since the prequels when will it stop 😭😭

[@Pixelguy9]

As soon as I saw Obi-Wan sneak Leia out of the fully armed imperial base by hiding her under his cloak, I laughed out loud. I honestly thought that the show wasn’t so bad up until that point. But that combined with Obi-Wan using his lightsaber as a club really turned me off for the rest of the season. Shame, I really wanted to like the show, the problem was that the show tries it’s hardest to make it the most unwatchable garbage on the planet…

[@edumaicol4141]

Sad to hear that honestly. That wasn't the case for me but I love watching/hearing different opinions, can't wait for the video!

[@grubfilms9043]

I'm excited to hear your take James. Future content on shows and movies would be cool as well if you'd like to incorporate that into the channel. Having listened to you and the 4p for a while now, I think you do a great job of expressing your feelings on something and actually explain why it is you feel that

[@darknightmc5637]

You put all the problems I could kinda feel when watching but not quite put into words. I really wish they gave this show time to be the best it could be. This was the show that would make or break Disney starwars for me, and let’s just say, it’s shattered.

[@chasehedges6775]

Indeed. Revenge Of The Sith is still awesome. Everything else…. Is a disaster

[@samwiseganja4027]

This was great! Would love to see more videos like this on other films or tv shows you’re passionate about whether it’s positive or negative

[@CommandoMaster]

The writing is so bad and frustrating to watch. It's so annoying how the directors/writers are hiding behind their actors instead of admitted their work is garbage!! Disney Star Wars is just awful.

[@edmaldonado8207]

I couldn't get into this show at all. It's so contrived and there's absolutely no tension. You can literally just skip it. I didn't need to see what Kenobi was up to between films. It's not like this show did anything new or ground breaking to justify itself. At the end of the day, Kenobi defeats Vader, again, and decides not to kill him cause the movies wouldn't happen. You can say that the point was to have Kenobi get over his grief but we don't need to see that. We know he does, because we see him again in the films. This is just poorly executed fan service and nothing more.

[@arielrose9874]

I subbed after your Zero Dawn video a couple of years ago and yeah, glad i stayed subbed. This is a really good critique

[@Soldier-bo7uo]

I agree with your statements on the clone trooper reference but I feel it falls flat because the trooper is 501st. The 501st stayed as Vader’s primary stormtrooper legion and to see one on the streets doesn’t make sense to me since all of them except maybe deserters would have stayed in the empire’s employment, I feel that if it was a 212th trooper then it would have hit much harder with the emotional pay off since the 212th was Kenobi’s primary unit that he led and fought with for years before they betrayed him. Like the turmoil of seeing a trooper that betrayed him, the spite he would feel but at the same time sorrow seeing someone he bled with being left on the streets to beg, the flow of memories of combat and comradery fighting the feelings of betrayal and disdain would have fit much better

[@elliec4154]

Though pretty sure both the 501st and 212th would recognise a slightly aged Kenobi.

[@ezioauditore1300]

How cool it would have been if Vader found out about Reeva years ago and they showed us in a flashback in the second episode. Like, he trained her for a couple of years already and while training, he goes: I know you are that child. You survived. The dark side of the force made you live. Reeva then gets back up and tries to kill Vader (he easily overpowers her). Vader: Your hatred for me makes you stronger. You will be a fine Inquisitor. I will train you. In years your hatred for me will grow and so will your powers. You are not powerfull enough to destroy me yet. When you'll be ready and confident enough to take me on, I'll be here. But untill then... your powers will serve ME!

[@lionrampant31]

I think the problem with Reva is that she was kept alive - every other Dark Acolyte who turns on Vader (regardless of motivation) usually gets very dead, and stays that way. I mean unless they have a clone, but you get my point.

[@thijmen5295]

Although my opinion does differ from yours I think everyone can agree on the first point about Disney Plus. Disney definitely needs to figure out if they want to make movies or ACTUAL shows by now instead of doing something that’s kind off both like we’re getting now. A true movie experience (especially in theaters) can be a once in a life time experience (like Avengers Endgame for example. Could you imagine that being a 6 episode show and still ending like that?) but the hype of a true last episode of a season, especially if it’s the last season, can hype you up just as much. I hate it when people say “lol people don’t want to watch a 3 hour movie but will still watch a 10 episode long show. hOw HypOcRITicaL aM I rIGhT?”. While shows are made in the same way movies are (writing, script, acting, cinematography, editing etc.) they’re two completely different forms of art and these people, and Disney apparently as well, don’t get that.

[@rhysdaniell1161]

Haven't finished it yet but thoroughly enjoying it. I'd like to see you do more film/series critiques, nice change of pace to games aswell

[@ezioauditore1300]

Bro. The duel in the last episode works just because they copied it from Rebels. They literaly took all the good things from the duel of Ahsoka vs Vader. Even the slashed mask of Vader that revealed Anakins eye. Even the fact Vader said that HE killed Anakin Skywalker. And even the quote "Then you will die!" Everything from this duel was made by Dave Filoni YEARS ago. Disney saw it and said "no one watches cartoons. Cartoons are for kids. Lets re-use the battle but in live action". Psycho! This is why I hate the last duel between Obiwan and Vader. It doesnt have heart. Its just a copy of something great that already exists.

[@tjjordan4207]

I was hoping for a Magnificent Seven kind of story, where Obi-Wan helps out with a situation in some town involving bandits and thieves.

[@MourningCoffeeMusic]

The Last Jedi killed Star Wars, the Mandalorian briefly brought it back, then Book of Boba and Obi Wan put it back in its grave.

[@omas1178]

The last jedi still had 10 times more vision than anything else Disney shat out

[@arbelcohen8280]

Huh Honestly when you showed the clip from the first episode of her threatening that poor farmer dude (whatever he was I can’t be asked to remember) I really asked myself “damn why do I think she’s so annoying that’s pretty nice dialogue” till I got to the “the way she’s written into the plot is annoying” bit Pretty much settled that for me

[@asellape9270]

There are moments in this show which I really don't understand how they got into the final product. It really seems like Disney Star Wars is drunkenly throwing darts and hoping they land well.

[@papaAJ88]

A good analysis of a not-so-good show! To be clear though, Disney has the "racist trolls are review bombing" response ready to go before the show even airs. They use the same lame excuse after all of their failed products.

[@pesky19]

nah let's be honest, moses isn't a "fantastic" actor, she's like... aight

[@LazerzZ]

She’s very good in everything else she’s been in, at least in my opinion, I really like her, and she’s got plenty of room to grow as well 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ParadoxDesmond]

Interested to see what your opinion is on the show I definitely had a few issues with it myself

[@chasehedges6775]

Same. This show was very meh/mediocre but it has some thing I liked or were tolerable

[@rohailaamir9343]

I think this show is plagued with all the problems that plague ANY Disney+show. Marvel or star wars. The problem really isn't even specifically the brand or the people involved (tho obviously it is in part to them), it's the top down requirement for these D+ shows to exist even when they don't need to and the cheap ass way their made. Even the writer admitted this was supposed to be a movie that was ultimately stretched out into a 6 hour show. Like, the priorities over there at disney are just dumbfounding at times.

[@manroexo]

I thoroughly enjoyed this video. I have no opinion on Star Wars and never cared for it, never consumed anything Star Wars besides Jedi Fallen Order. But you've done a fantastic job at conveying how you feel about this show

[@TheJunmengo]

LMAO , i thought Last Jedi killed Star Wars, wait no was Rise of Skywalker No before that was the prequels that killed Star Wars

[@trumpflavourednugget9325]

Star Wars really seems to work better in animated/video game format.

[@LazerzZ]

pretty based

[@uthorofthehightower3367]

The Clone Wars style animated stuff is what started Star Wars on this path of trash to begin with

[@trumpflavourednugget9325]

@@uthorofthehightower3367 I'd assumed the prequels are what started this path.

[@uthorofthehightower3367]

@@trumpflavourednugget9325 The prequels were no worse than the OT

[@cryptic9814]

Gonna be another banger James! Can’t wait

[@will.b7337]

Find myself agreeing with everything said even if I did take enjoyment from the show, mainly due to nostalgia and Ewan’s performance. Either way really great video 👍

[@impressions1812]

Mandolorian is the best Star Wars Disney plus show either because of the score, story and character arc for Mando. Despite season two being chock full of legacy characters. It’s cinematography and characters are deep and interesting. You gotta rewatch it man because you’re issues with this show are justified. But your criticisms about mandolorian are false and unfair

[@yoolsam]

The last duel is cool but I was frustrated cos it wasn’t deserved imo. FINALLY SOMEONE WHO REALISES TWILIGHT OF THE APPRENTICE IS A BETTER VADER INTERACTION THAN KENOBI

[@BD-ji6qu]

Really good work @LazerzZ. More people need to see this including Disney.

[@LizardMan8675309]

33:26 Vader knowing reva is a youngling he didn’t kill actually works for me, he’d have been able to sense her thoughts like he does with Luke in Jedi and palpatine recruiting someone with intense hatred Vader makes sense as a way to toy with Vader and keep him loyal/sort of train him. The rest of her character is asenine 100%

[@lachlanprowse9651]

1:13:21 anyone know what that music is in the outro i can’t for the life of me figure out where it’s from

[@herrschneider5310]

lol, everytime something Star Wars related comes out KZbinrs open the clickbait-floodgates :D For 10 years every single thing that came out was the new thing that killed Star Wars. It's ridiculous.

[@MarkGrouch]

What’re you doing? Stop asking questions. Consume content.

[@ASadlerRacing]

Great video, I more or less have the same feelings!

[@onemoreminute0543]

The whole thing about how Obi-Wan distanced Anakin from Vader wasn't really needed. Again, it was something already touched upon in ROTS by Yoda: "The boy you trained.... gone, he is. Consumed by Darth Vader".

[@tlr3191]

Oh, Star Wars got killed? Again? Man, this is the 11th time. I'm sure this time it's for real. R.I.P. Star Wars (and this time we mean it)

[@LazerzZ]

Gotta remember, different videos account for when it “died” for different people, you can’t hold me to the standards of someone random online im not aware of purely because you’ve seen someone feel the same way about another piece of star wars media. The video addresses why this specific show is what killed the brand for me personally.

[@Engille967]

This and sequels should be legends

[@uthorofthehightower3367]

I think it died long before than, before the sequel trilogy even. But you're kind of right, since the Obi-Wan show was the last straw for me when I actually accepted that it's dead. Well really it was Book of Boba, but I stuck around for this one because of Ewan McGregor.

[@kingbacon6563]

I think what kills me the most is that this could have been incredible. There are so many moments that are great and I mean the acting from key characters is generally really good.... but the whole thing is really hollow. As a kid who grew up with and still has a great deal of fondness for the prequels... man what a disappointment.

[@ezioauditore1300]

Bro, they just did "Hopeless Luke from The last Jedi" all over again with Obiwan

[@Engille967]

Yeah

[@bigmonke1449]

Obi-Wan killed star wars for you? Did you miss the sequels 😭?

[@pendentz8617]

As someone who has never watched Star Wars this video was not made… for me

[@Garthydude12]

I just wish they'd have had the sense to keep Vader as a distant/looming threat and just had a separate storyline there (which could have lead into a standalone Vader series!!). It no doubt undermines the meaning of the films, at this point we may as well have another Mace Windu and Palpatine showdown 🤦‍♂️ Disney if you're reading this I WAS BEING SARCASTIC

[@davey8953]

I’ve been looking forward to this

[@skvltdmedia]

This is what happens when Disney touches, especially a long-established franchise with its own proper flow, feel, and style - it will be milked for nostalgia and selling merch above ALL else, including giving half a shit about the show itself. The cheaper and faster this can be done, the better, period.

[@oneironaut420]

Nonsense. Out of all the shows so far, this one is the most like classic Star Wars. Which is why some people hate it. They want Star Wars to be sci-fi or high fantasy or a badass video game but they forget that Star Wars is based on 1930s kids’ movie serials.

[@iceyardfan4394]

I'm permanently returning to legends

[@reeceemms1643]

I don't like legends what killed it for me was that the old republic remake is not going to be PlayStation exclusive

[@chasehedges6775]

I’m a casual fan and I Support This

[@uthorofthehightower3367]

The only new Legends content that's still coming out is SWTOR and that sucks absolute ass. It's not worth the time

[@iceyardfan4394]

@@uthorofthehightower3367 "New" is exactly my point. There are enough of the old that is great.

[@Ic3h0rnEt14]

The “rock solid” joke got me

[@Zomboy123456789]

Yah no Ingram got exactly what she deserved. Attacking the fans and yelling ‘racist’ every time someone points out that yes, you ARE attacking people for not liking something, doesn’t make you a victim, it makes you a cry bully.

[@white6505]

to me star wars was sepulted in episode 7. rogue one was pretty good though, i think it was the assassins creed origins of this franchise, the last spark before stupidity

[@zachryder3150]

Ah, a longman. Beautiful!

[@umerhamza875]

I disagree with everything you said in the video, liked 👍.

[@GhostOfBilly]

Man the original book was so rad. Hate to see it go to waste.

[@JadedDarkness]

Obi-Wan broke me

[@lillowh6126]

Darth maul survived being cut in half off his hatred for kenobi and this hatred gave him more power through the dark side. If they wanted to keep reva alive after vader stabs her a second time. They should’ve had the dark side of the force fully corrupt her. Show a physical difference, give her sith eyes and all. Similar to Anakin turning to the dark side. Mirror what happened to anakin and give kenobi somewhat of another chance to do something different then what he did with anakin. Maybe in the end she comes back to the light , but passes away as the dark side was keeping her alive. I’m not sure honestly.

[@dah3071]

most people do point out how stupid it is for obi to not know anikin is alive because he was aware of his sith title and surely even in the outer rim he would have heard something of vader so he would know anikin was alive

[@freeXarmyXofX3]

Just finished watching and had a thought (correct me if this wouldn't work) but rather than the show we got the story should have followed obi wan racked with guilt over anakin and the fall of the jedi being pestered by the ghost of qui gon (gotta learn the force ghost trick eventually). A jedi in hiding finds obi wan and tries to show him that there is still hope and that the force can return to the "balance" the jedi once enjoyed. Ensue some bounty hunter hijinks and a dash of the rising of the rebellion and by the end obi wan accepts qui gons call for training with hope in his heart that luke and leia can one day tip the scales

[@elliec4154]

I think it would have been a lot more powerful if they'd had Obi-Wan get the vision about Reva going after Luke 20 minutes earlier during his fight with Vader. Then when he gains the upper hand he has to make an active choice. He has Vader on his knees, he will win this fight, it will take time but he will end Vader and one of the greatest threats to the galaxy, giving himself closure and avenging Anakin against this Vader. And yet... if he does, the time it will take to finish Vader, will cost Luke his life. He cannot have both. He can have victory and revenge, or he can let Vader live, and choose life and hope, trusting in the force that fighting for the light and protecting the innocent will ultimately come right, later proved right in the fate of Luke and Vader. Vader chooses victory, vegence and death, Obi-Wan chooses the wider battle, retreat, defend, protect and spare life and a greater victory than Vader understands.

[@KARMA-nt1vp]

Isn’t it weird when something new Star Wars related comes out everyone says that killed Star Wars, even though it’s bigger than it has ever been.

[@aaronbrett317]

So true. Makes me laugh every time. It’s like this cycle Star Wars fans keep repeating over and over again…..what’s Einstein’s definition of insanity?

[@omas1178]

This is the first time LazerzZ has made a video like this

[@artofamado]

What leaves me even more confused is that the show was directed by Deborah chow, who directed “something stupid” in Better Call Saul, one of the most memorable episodes in one of the best shows on television.

[@LazerzZ]

Disney neuters all talented people

[@speinz9430]

I have not watched the series yet. So when I see this in my recommended and scroll through the comments I suddenly have a very bad feeling about watching this.

[@zerg6001]

Why does Luke act like he doesn’t know what a lightsaber is in a new hope when he spent 30 minutes running away from a red one when he was 8+ yrs old. The childhood trauma of nearly being killed by a evil lady with a fire sword isn’t something you should forget? Reva is a dumb character because she was invented specifically for this show when the canon of starwars as a whole has no room for her. Her character should have been the inquisitor lady from Jedi fallen order instead. Would have at least had some developed reason for the character’s existence

[@alexanderlyons4807]

the storm troopers "horrible aim" had a reason, they were given explicit orders not to kill them (because that's Vader's son, that they wanted to turn to the dark side) and you even see the two troopers stop shooting at Leia and Luke as they swing across and they fall back. As seen in the very first scene of the movie they cleared an entire squad of rebels and only took two casualties.The aim is elite, they just were told not to kill the children of their boss. You can also look at the big fight at the end before the death star was destroyed the first time and how easily the mopped up the base on Hoth, they are very competent. The recent stuff? Nah it's just cap and literal plot armor

[@LazerzZ]

You surely realise that despite extended media providing these reasons, the actual movies themselves don’t do that, nobody should be forced to do research to find out why something dumb happens in a movie. If the troopers really were missing on purpose, then that should’ve been addressed by the film.

[@alexanderlyons4807]

​@@LazerzZ fair point, but when you look at it our heroes had pretty shit aim too. Like the moment right before they jumped in the trash compactor not a single storm trooper was killed that i could see. And the scene you played of them missing Han, Han was also running away from them which would give more merit to them missing the shots. So while yes them not hitting shit was very convenient they at least made an effort to give an explanation at some point. And the in movie explanation could be implied even without the extended material, like the scene I mentioned where they let Leia and Luke escape. Leia and Luke looked at them and watched them leave after they deliberately stopped shooting. It wasn't shown the order being given but you could defiantly imply it there and the extended material would simply have confirmed that implication. I personally feel like if they had shown them saying "don't kill them" then all those events lose the intensity because "oh, they're gonna survive so i don't care about this". If you wanted to put it after the events then it would feel like a waste of screen time because why they missed is not that important in the grand scheme of things. Love your videos by the way, I just discovered you like 2 days ago and pretty much completely agree with all your takes. This side bar was simply a take I don't agree with but hear a LOT, that the storm troopers just suck ass. But it has been taken way too far in recent releases, like there is no fucking way an entire army shooting missed everything, like even if there was NO training at all amongst all of them put together at least one shot in going to hit, it's impossible not to.

[@Carabas72]

In A New Hope, Vader and Palpatine don't even know yet that Vader has kids. More crucially, George Lucas didn't even know yet that Vader was Anakin. The reality of bad Stormtrooper aim is much more simple: no military forrce in the history of fiction, no matter how elite, has fared particularly well against main protagonists with plot armour.

[@alexanderlyons4807]

@@Carabas72 if we wanted to go by at the moment of it's release rather than continuity the emperor was just supposed to be a politician using a fake persona. But at least in this instance you can explain it to an extent, (at least in a New Hope, the clips shown from Obi Wan and recent Star Wars is completely over the top illogical) but by that metric every encounter with something dangerous that doesn't kill the main protagonists would be considered plot armor, can't really have a movie, nonetheless a 9 instalment franchise, if the chosen one got no scooped by a goon. Even though nobody important dies Star Wars used to do an really good job of making sure the heroes take a lot of Ls. Hell the entire run time of the Empire Strikes Back the heroes take NOTHING but Ls the entire movie

[@uthorofthehightower3367]

@@LazerzZ To be fair, Luke did point out you can barely see anything in a stormtrooper helmet

[@Engille967]

People just overrate everything prequel related

[@shadowfax2306]

Great vid!

[@callumarmitage4828]

I think to be honest in the world of 1000 deep dives of the plot before the episode airs and 2000 Easter egg hunts per frame there isn't really the chance to just sit back and enjoy something. Was this show ground breaking? No. Did it turn the Star Ward universe upside down? No. Does that matter? Subjective I guess. I watched this show week by week and I watched nothing about it until after it's completion. I found that a lot of reviewers came to a completely different conclusion than me. This was entertaining TV. Obi wan was back, Vader was back, Jimmy (the most important one) was back. It looked incredible for the most part and it held my attention and made me get emotional at parts. It thrilled me and chilled me and added a few cool new characters. Sometimes thats enough. Peace

[@speinz9430]

I respect critics opinions and I try to watch some of their stuff because I think it’s nice to get other people’s views and blindly loving something isn’t the best thing now is it. But there is a part of me where it feels like that because I do that I can’t really enjoy things as much as I used to. So I think that wall listening to other people critique things is important it’s also important to just enjoy things every once in a while if you can. Of course when a studio steps out of line I do still think that we should be able to critique them on their missteps so if they possibly watch the video which we all know they won’t, they can learn from the mistakes and improve in the future.

[@Matt_19-89]

The bar has been set so low with star wars media that this apparently is considered an 82% on rotten tomatoes by "Critics". Seriously that site is a Joke

[@prestoncallaway678]

I thought the show was very good but I understand where you're coming from from a fan standpoint of view that's how I am as well I've been a fan for a long time but I do believe the show is very good

[@tristanskywalker1998]

Ah yes, another "Blank killed Star Wars" video. How original.

[@LazerzZ]

Thanks for not watching a second of the video and basing all judgement on a title you may have seen worded similarly elsewhere, very intelligent of you!

[@tristanskywalker1998]

@@LazerzZ Not really worth my time.

[@AdamAziz0]

I respect everyone's opinion. But the show for me was okay. What I liked was that one flashback scene, the last fight with vader (which needed duel of the fates or battle of the heroes), and Ewan being Kenobi. My biggest problems were: Reva, lack of old music, shakey camera, filler moments and episode 4 especially, how vader just let Kenobi go in the fire scene of ep 3, the weird Leia chase scene ,the lack of diving into the past, the question of how did Obi wan not know that Vader was alive for so long? Which were my main issues, however the Patterson's cut a fan edited cut which made the series to an 2 hour movie. And I liked it, it explained (not quite but good enough) why Vader let Obi wan live in ep 3, added duel of the fates to the end fight (also cut the Reva scene of her chasing Luke), made Reva less annoying, The Leia scene, removed bunch of filler and restructured some scenes. Which I prefer that fan cut over the show, however it still had some stuff I would change especially the story. Also why was this show so low budget? I wouldn't say it killed star wars, the sequels did but I still liked S2 of Mando and clone wars. But just want to mention it again that last duel was fantastic Edit: Wouldn't say it was okay had some stuff which I didn't like, or I should say that fun cut I liked but the show itself could be better and had aspects I didn't like

[@LazerzZ]

fair enough, glad you liked it

[@AdamAziz0]

I am gonna add some of my extra thoughts here, the show itself wasn't written good. However I would not call it bad. The show itself would get a 6.2/10 from me the fan edit (Patterson's cut which made me like the show a bit more and Reva) I would give 7.5 but if that was made by Disney just a normal 6.8

[@derekdrake8706]

Imagine how cool it would've been if Obi mentioned padmes last words and that's why he can't kill Vader.

[@robertjv]

You know it's a serious problem that James is criticising Star wars

[@Shadowpack95]

ok for the last time, those who criticized Reva because her actress was black numbered in the single digits. 99.9999998% of the criticism she got was because the poor writing she received, and the sub-par acting she displayed in the beginning.

[@LazerzZ]

She had hundreds of DMs, I don't really care what percentage it was. She had hundreds of abusive DMs, that's not okay and I will continue to condemn it.

[@omas1178]

Why do you feel the need to respond to "this actress playing a poorly writen character got abusive messages in real life" with "it wasn't THAT baaaaad"

[@ocean_and_spring]

the 1999 children's jedi apprentice books are a more thought out and engaging story about obi-wan than this show

[@nakseyyy]

i liked that the show named quinlan, and ewan and hayden were great and i know many didn't but i loved young Leia

[@VSC96]

This really did kill star wars for me not gonna lie…. Im done with it

[@Engille967]

I have big doubts about the Andor series. Kenobi is the worst star wars show/movie

[@the_swordman1]

It's weird that the obi-wan show was marketed towards people who have watched the prequel trilogy yet the show act it is for those who haven't seen the prequel trilogy.

[@jjyj7198]

Remember when the entire Star Wars random was called racist because three people wrote not so nice dms that are nothing compared to what online creators get? Me too. An example is YoungRippa59 getting called the n-word by a leftist because his comic company is already very successful in a short amount of time without pushing politics.

[@XTooManyShowsX]

I really think the most insulting thing the show did was poorly rip off Fallen order and Rebels, like yeah over all it was terrible but that really galled me.

[@Excalis3344]

they shouldnt have included reva. it should have been just about obi wan and vader

[@onemoreminute0543]

Oh, I wouldn't say that Obi-Wan wanted Luke to kill Vader in the OT. He wanted Luke to confront him - Luke had to face his father in order to determine his own destiny of who he wanted to be. Luke aspired to be like his father in ANH, but then that aspiration was thrown into question upon finding out Vader was his father in Empire. Luke confronts Vader in Jedi and chooses to aspire to be the good man he still sees in his father, rather than giving into the mechanical monster he's also becoming ('I am a Jedi, like my father before me")

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Too bad ROTJ doesn't support that. Luke: I can't kill my own father. Obi-Wan: Then the Emperor has already won. You were our last hope.

[@onemoreminute0543]

@@Lobsterwithinternet Obi-Wan or Yoda never explicitly told Luke to kill him. It was all about confrontation. Luke believes that there is good in his father, but has to be prepared that he can't redeem him and will have to kill him. Obi-Wan and Yoda don't encourage that, but they make it clear that it's an issue of confrontation, not just going out there to kill Vader. That's why they're smiling at him at the end of the film - he was able to confront his father not by killing him, but by inspiring him to turn good again through his compassion.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@onemoreminute0543 I just quoted from ROTJ. I quoted Obi-Wan saying that if Luke refused to kill his father, then the Emperor would have already won. You can make up whatever head anon you wish but you can't ignore that he said that.

[@onemoreminute0543]

@@Lobsterwithinternet Not headcanon. I'm literally narrating what happens in the movie and from the word of the author: "A Jedi can't kill for the sake of killing. The mission isn't for Luke to go out and kill his father and get rid of him. The issue is, if he confronts his father again, he may, in defending himself, have to kill him, because his father will try to kill him" - George Lucas

[@peculiar3529]

I haven’t consumed any Star Wars media since Ep IX other than Fallen order (because Star Wars game=me happy) and personally I’m done with this era of Star Wars I just want something truly new; I’ve heard Mando is different from other Star Wars media and well written (which I believe) but it’s nothing like the revolutionary editing, storytelling, and world of the first 2 Star Wars films. I know there won’t be any Star Wars product as revolutionary as the first 2 but I just want to see a new trilogy with a new time period that actually has something to say.

[@bintube5269]

It's not too late to make a movie next time instead of season 2.

[@jasonnewbery]

There are SOOO MANY directors who would have killed to get this show. Chow or whatever her name is shit all over this show and I hope she never directs any form of media I watch the rest of my life. I’m that upset about it I was sooooo pumped for this show