The Rock Bottom Experience:

[@mayac69]

Matt: "Rock Bottom can sometimes not do anything" Also Matt: * Meet the Pyro*

[@LeonardxGamer15]

And meet the Cheeto run!

[@coSocks]

i loved it when matt rocked his bottom all over the place, truly a isaac video Edit: the Cheeto synergy was beautiful

[@Salorlor]

she's rockin my bottom till i isaac

[@bobby-mccool]

omg thats a rlly funny comment! Xd

[@skinsarentskill259]

ok what🤨

[@VANTAND]

@@Salorlor she's bottomin my isaac till i rock

[@goldman1996]

This one actually kinda works lol

[@cocopabble]

A run starting with ludovico would be cool since its usually ignored but it can be fun and good if you get the proper synergies like homing and good shot speed

[@Fweefwee6]

Eye of occult and ludo makes your tear turn into a controllable rolling cloud of death

[@koteghe7600]

there is this one item that make your tears attach to opponent and do boom after some time, I haven't played repentance, but I hope they changed it's synergy with it (it was basically swallowing your tear till it exploded

[@bencrandall-malcolm8303]

​​@@koteghe7600 the Explosivo interaction has been changed, now it just sticks a bomb to the enemy without you losing the tear Sinus Infection works the same way

[@anthonytonytelford2945]

Yes, Ludovico is a unique item that is sometimes really good, hopefully he does this

[@RV-PREDATOR]

This is true

[@shenanigans01]

I had a rock bottom experience when my wife left me

[@corydericks7982]

relatable

[@WastedPotential17]

It Hurts (no it doesn't)

[@Bengams]

Taking damage causes Isaac to release a ring of 10 tears and gain tears up for the current room. The first hit taken increases Isaac's tears fired per second by 1.2, then by 0.4 for every subsequent hit in the same room. This ignores the tears cap and can stack indefinitely. Each tear in the ring deals 10 damage and doesn't use Isaac's tear effects.

[@Monkayvr251]

“I’m leaving you.” “OOOOHHHH” *specialist dance*

[@NothingThereLobCorp]

Roland

[@JasperRebornCDJM]

The Flaming Hot Cheeto run has been achieved. Truly one of the mattman moments of all time.

[@Octuphi]

I wanna see how interesting a chaos start would be

[@electronium]

I think a cool challenge could be 1/2 steam sale(s) + chaos + maybe restock and only shop items

[@RickySilverGA]

There's a streamer on Twitch, andvil82, who currently has around a 560 win streak starting with chaos as Eden. Kicker is it's a hoarder streak so he's forced to take all items that spawn, even if they're bad items.

[@UnknownGDuser]

I do wanna see more of these “challenges” they are very fun!

[@kitchengun1175]

I have come to a conclusion from my forgotten experience so far every run is either a good bone synergy item (knife, haemo, etc) at the very start or the most infuriating aneurysm-inducing difficult run of your life until you die on floor 3

[@anguslang9769]

Forgor moment

[@DarklingReborn]

7:30 my favourite item in the game (even though it’s not that broken) is spoon bender. Hominy just makes the run a lot more fun and easier for me without making it an insta win

[@speedwagonoverheaven9716]

libra start, everyone hates on it but i really like it. You'd also learn more about its synergies and interactions

[@anguslang9769]

Libra is so underrated

[@alastair5569]

talking about the fact you mentionned suggesting ideas for less OP starting items, what about starting with tractor beam? I feel like that item is underrated, like it adds 1 to the tear cap and makes all familiars that copies your tears shoot into the beam, also conjoined basically triples your damage like a better triple shot more accurate and without the fire rate down, also same with wiz shot, also it forces tiny planet to shoot straight and makes montsro's lung into an insane shotgun without the range downside....etc

[@vq3348]

i..did not know it did all of that holy...

[@alastair5569]

@@vq3348 I found out half by watching tons of isaac vids and half by myself while playing the game, and yeah a surprising amount of good synergies with that item

[@Jeff-yz1wx]

day 37 of thanking matt for making good isaac content

[@chosen_mizzy]

day 1 of thanking you for thanking matt for making good Isaac content

[@tarbotologdk]

Day 1 of I like Jeff comments

[@flowrider585]

day 1 of replying to this comment without any reason

[@DMXIII]

Day 1 of Thanking Jeff for thanking Matt

[@Soulargres]

@@DMXIII day 1 of thanking DMZIII for thanking jeff for thanking matt

[@Atomic_Donut720]

He was truly tapping those keys like a *MATTman*

[@splitreality8712]

For those that want a better explanation for better items TLost has an inate ability to prevent items with the “non offensive” tag from spawning. Which includes health ups, flight, spectral tears, however, This also includes defensive items such as cube of meat or ball of bandages, and yes, even holy mantle. It’s basically a glass canon, all offense, little to no defense

[@djluce9075]

18:55 I don’t think you got him, better shoot just 1 more time

[@icyfoe8830]

9:09 I literally just lost a tainted lost run to this room yesterday, it was very unfortunate.

[@tallchungus6046]

Todays Isaac run sponsored by flaming hot cheetos

[@NamelessFacelessWhoa]

Dude, a ludivico start would be sick as hell

[@Ростислав-м3п]

You should do it with every trinket smelted. I think, it'll be fun

[@slightlyhomeless454]

Tiny planet start because it has the most fun synergies imo

[@blucatte842]

a really interesting video would be giving yourself 10 Eden blessing and do an entire run with only the items you get from eden blessing to test what item truly gives you a nice start

[@HittingBandy]

Ok now that Matt had covered all the pretty good items, he needs to start a run with everything combined. Glitch Crown + Sacred Orb + Damogus + Rock Bottom. For a more reasonable experiment, start with PhD. It's basically the Sacred Orb for pills.

[@cezaryhorbacz4331]

I'd love to see TMTrainer start run. It'd sure be very chaotic ^-^

[@phitalis559]

there's a challenge already like that

[@remotelyimmune9669]

"maybe i missed" matt says with the whole screen filled with tears and flames

[@liamborghini5878]

Try not to die simulator: Start with ipecac.

[@techsomat5757]

I think starting with a not very used item that changes your playstyle would be more interesting. like staring with ludo or epic fetus.

[@nightmaregoesboom1058]

Truly the rock Bottom moment of all time

[@theexistenceperson4845]

Forgotten with dr or epic fetus (your swing isnt affected) or a run without using the soul starting with brimstone

[@cooler2921]

Start with ludivocho? I forgot how to spell name if that's not how you say it but that sounds fun

[@LooffyBagels]

“Maybe i missed” everyone shooting blindly in a mega room

[@Pokets]

I might be the only one asking for it... ...but I want the run where you start with cursed eye.

[@Huaheem]

AS T MAGGIE

[@2CupsOfExpiredJello]

Matt not spinning down god head into soy at the end of the run is truly a mattman moment

[@weemonkey16]

Mattman needs to try a Wario impression when he finds a q4 item

[@erebus1104]

Gotta love it when matt makes a 5 year old fire the wrath of the sun

[@widezilla2.045]

matt in boss rush being scared that he nearly touched the spikes whilst having flight

[@WolfysForest]

Would have been omega delta beta brain if you bought moms box and picked up perfection for that juicy +20 luck

[@averagejoschmo34]

Mattman not taking the Mom's Box for Keeper's Sack stats and +11 luck from perfection is truly a mattman moment

[@cornkidboring]

16:31 no joke, no clickbate Actually prettiest synergy I've seen in Isaac

[@teotab4293]

Bethany with red key start led to the craziest run ever, all 169 rooms on each floor

[@4500zenja]

The least rigged Rock Bottom run, by the only LazyMattman The list of funny noises: 3:59 - long worm jumpscare 4:37 - orb and balls 8:57 - spoonful technology 9:37 - Кнопка "К" + ???'s map 10:50 - "give me back my, erm, glasses" - 🤓 15:06 - even R-keyd run can surprise you 15:34 - Jacob and Esau but they're loved by everyone 16:30 - firethrowing 17:31 - this Boss Challenge room is so generous for items, huh 17:35 - miscellaneous Matt noises 18:41 - more noises 19:08 - extra

[@Choogzy]

So cool that you named a video after my life

[@OP_Magikarp]

A run starting with death’s list. How beneficial can clearing in order be for drops and stats would be interesting off rip

[@mijinizer]

Some starting items people don’t really talk about but are goated in the right scenarios: mega mush, Isaac’s tomb, flip, mega blast, bag of crafting, binge eater, last but not least 🅱️alls. Would love to see a tainted/regular keeper + balls or like a mega mush/blast + no! trinket run. Not as flashy but for starting/carry items they pop off

[@dockboys2023]

On a similar vein of these kinds of videos, for a challenge, start with TMTRNR as tainted Lost, and for a fun run, start with Chaos as tainted Lost. You're the lazy king of Isaac rn now, Matt. Keep pushing out this high quality content 😙🤌 Cheers 🍻

[@berb4413]

I would love jacobs ladder, its just fun to me

[@teemo420]

Its the lost, But Brimstone... And Ipecac

[@Kwackaz]

I'm glad Matt shot again at the end. He did indeed miss.

[@kenimerlewis]

Of every run you’ve ever done, this is hands down the prettiest

[@jacobski4824]

I wonder if a better test would be to pick one of the “rigging” items to start with but prevent the others from spawning in the run. See which carries harder on its own.

[@Customlycool]

Start with all of the Options items and see how good the run gets. It'll basically turn you into T Isaac at home

[@jorgegonzalez4853]

bro they made flaming hot cheetos in issac :) 16:22

[@clayHigginson]

Love eating dinner to these. Would love to see a Ludo run

[@lukasuperhero]

Can you do a video of starting with super bum, and you have to give him everything he can pick up and you can only use pickups he spawns. I always wanted to see that :D

[@georgepeterson7810]

Hey Matt, here’s a suggestion. If you re-do the testing on another character, you should remove all non-highlighted items from the run. For example, if you start with glitched crown, then don’t pick up damocles, rock bottom, or sacred orb during the run. That way you can really test them in a vacuum.

[@jackierobbie7406]

GENIUS this man has a big brain for starting with funny rock never could think about that keep up the good work.

[@cptcarrot5455]

Just because it’s one of my favorite memories of rebirth, starting with poly would be pretty dope, those first floor polys were crazy

[@lukasoliverleo3730]

Was really cool seeing you use the tarnished mod yesterday; I hope we get to see some more of that in the near future. Base game is great but some modded content is just so good. My personal favorite is- and will probably always be -Mei

[@TheMetalliator]

I always enjoy seeing runs with Libra

[@TheFlamingdragon2]

Hey Matt, a really fun item to start out with is Kamikaze! with Tainted Keeper. You basically play like a bomber and heal with whatever drops from enemies. And since it gives you access to most secret rooms, you'll have a fun but dangerous run.

[@dominicmurray7200]

Kamikaze with tainted lost*

[@MagicTurtle-91]

A cool idea for this could be keeper’s balls with tainted keeper Or A full challenge run with keeper’s balls and deep pockets start with 109 coins (for 109 k subscribers) but only shop items for the run. As any character, probably one of the keepers or Isaac for max rig potential.

[@rafhael636]

The rock botton start was a really cool idea and worked really well. Really liked it

[@forsaken4928]

Spindown dice would be an interesting start. Spindown is the one item that can give you insane items from absolutely nothing.

[@jonathon422]

I would love to see runs with the Easter egg codes. Especially ones that make things more interesting, like every item is blind for the whole run.

[@siusord]

start with crused eye

[@teamleaf4570]

"I think i missed" was a amazing line lmao

[@themastamanhd4861]

This was one of my favorite runs youve ever done. Whenever you have forget me now you always save it and manage to find an r key and drop it 😂

[@morcebruh]

The "now add rock bottom" experience

[@TheShaneoVevo]

Lusty blood maxed out way before you thought it did. The way rock bottom works is your stats will show you haven't lost the lusty blood damage bonus but you actually will, in a hidden stat which would return to base damage. Once you pick up a new damage up, that hidden stat will increase, therefore once you gain the max effect of lusty blood again, you stat will go up. Very common misconception about rock bottom

[@thelightningdiamond6574]

It's so funny to me that you got more excited over mystery sack than you did after getting 1000+ damage

[@hordix7213]

15:25 youre hitting the tear cap, theres too many tears existing at once so when you shoot a new tear it makes the oldest one disappear

[@brickpuncher1429]

Dearest Mattman, may we see a Jacob, Esau, and Strawman run? Jacob, Esau, and Strawman Overview - Jacob and Esau, but you start with Strawman (picked up by either Jacob or Esau) - That's it - What more do you want me to say? - If Strawman dies, it counts as losing.

[@Fweefwee6]

Tainted lost, brimstone, low tears (maybe poly/mascara?), and no. 2. How I see it, you’ll crap a bomb before you can charge the laser.

[@deadmagnet6318]

14:24 "anything can make you op as long as you play correctly" says with the best run imaginable to man kind. i understand u are doing this without a mantle and man thats impressive, no good run would make me able to do that ever, but still its ironic for u to say that in that specific situation

[@AlexOxygen]

I recently started with My Reflection and have no idea how I could have lost that run, it was very very good from the start.

[@Salorlor]

I think an interesting start idea would be Dr Fetus + Rocket in a Jar

[@danielholmes4267]

The misplay that is not buying Mom’s Box and picking Perfection back up throws me off

[@closetdwight2450]

FINALLY THE ROCK VIDEO

[@actively_narcissistic]

I would really like to see matt start with chaos, it would be interesting to see how it goes. Maybe Matt could get godhead from a devil deal and breakfast from a secret room.

[@shinimaplayz7932]

Alright so Matt I was sitting here thinking about what item you should start with and I was thinking tarnished keeper steam sale, and let it RIDE because I have a feeling that you can get some amazing rig potential and it'll just be entertaining as all balls...but I wanna see you only ONLY turnover the shop and of course you can turnover for keys to get the item room coins. I dunno I think it would be a decent challenge. Also love the content as always Mattman keep it up and I hope you get another awesome sponsorship soon you deserve it my man's.

[@EvilWillow123123]

you know i actually would think to start with items you never get would be interesting sooo my recommendation for what item to start with would be terra :D cause you never actually do planetariums and when you get one its only stuff like mars or jupiter n stuff so starting with terra could be quite interesting :D

[@omlett6482]

I'd like to see an Infestation 2 start tbh. Everyone was talking like it absolutely deserved the quality nerf and it should've never been a Q4 item to begin with, so a run with it as a starting item could be like a "Did it deserve the nerf or is it still Q4 worthy" test.

[@filleis6374]

Adding onto the "better items" explanation: T lost cannot get any items that only give flight/ spectral tears as those are irrelevant aswell.

[@pyrusvincent1029]

I'd honestly be down to see you try "What item would you get from death certificate" runs with either of the Bethanies, due to them being so reliant on their spacebar items and using an important pickup as a secondary fuel for charges, or either of the Judases, due to them being so obscenely strong offensively off the bat, that defense is arguably the better option to pick from.

[@Muffins17]

The Rock Bottom Experience:

[@Adridle]

"Let me shoot again, maybe I missed" 🤣

[@razvanvasilache7834]

every item is devil baby'd be cool

[@gummy_worm2.0]

Literally the flaming hot cheeto rings run

[@kingcrimson-yl6gi]

A run starting with d infinity would be pretty cool since you can do a lot of things with it

[@VeterwolfGame]

"let me shoot again, maybe i missed!" 🤣

[@kimberlyhogan639]

You should make a start with ippac video since you didn't decide to take it earlier

[@darc22005]

The flaming hot cheeto synergy is *chefs kiss*

[@jakeTWIII]

You could try starting with spindown dice

[@ledlebrgr5380]

I'd have legitimately chosen Ipecac, though I also regularly take high-risk items and have a pretty good understanding of how to use basically all of them bar Epic Fetus. Dr. Fetus and Ipecac often translate to "speedruns" for me, but Epic Fetus is hard to defend with

[@annadominiak6765]

Honestly, the item I’ll go for when i get death certificate would be birthright (with a few exceptions) since it just gives most characters a really cracked effect, like on jacob n esau, t samson, t Isaac but also not that good like t maggie, keeper, cain etc.

[@chaotick100]

I’m loving this series so much. Damocles is my favorite item!

[@eduardjugon]

Start with a Playdough Cookie!

[@IAAFMIG]

Honestly seeing a binge eater start would be very fun

[@sandrajoyce2384]

Fun vid idea: tainted keeper + BALLS + health down (to make it fair)

[@zachlewis9751]

Better Items is basically no lunch box and weaker sacred orb. Can still find items that give a health up + something else, like Meat or Magic Scab.

[@francjirachi]

seeing mom's box and you not taking it for the double perfection luck physically hurt me, but otherwise a really cool video, enjoying this types of challenge/experiment