LBC#43 - Setting Up XMP the Easy Way and the Hard Way

An intro to getting your memory up to the correct speed, or even overlocking it a little.

[@CustomNameHere]

The clearest explanation of XMP that I've seen on the internet. Thank you very much.

[@AmieWea]

Memory Qualified Vendor List is a good reference before buying.

[@deminybs]

sometimes, my kit wasn't on the QVL for my x570 taichi but they worked 1st time I dropped them in (: gotem running 3600 14-14-14-14-32-72-300 1T @1.44v (32GB kit)

[@JoseMariArceta]

Some wrong things to point out: -Dual channel is not dual rank, i think it concerns the number of chips on the stick itself -there is a program usually used in tandem with ryzen mem Calc to detect the specific ram chip type on your stick way better than cpuz and guessing which variant it is Great vid tho very informative and chill

[@ChadDidNothingWrong]

Figuring out rank is Hell....just when you think you understand it, some damn stick comes along that seems to break the logic of it all! ...like dual rank is supposed to be faster, but then a special late release of 2666 8GB sticks still running dual rank is somehow faster than the comparable dual rank verison?,wtf mate

[@teh0wnz0r76]

@@ChadDidNothingWrong its prolly faster due to better silicon. anyway, joses right. single rank iirc is basically modules on only a single side, dual rank got mem modules on both sides. rank =/= channel. dual channel jus mean u got 2 sticks in a pair, in the correct slots

[@oliwek70]

@@teh0wnz0r76 ...two sticks in a pair that you put in the right slots on the motherboard (usually 1st and 3rd, or 2nd and 4th slots). When you buy dual channel ram it has been tested together, on the same motherboard. Dual rank is a module with chips on both side, so a single stick can be dual rank, but not dual channel.

[@nitt3rz]

Interesting video. I don't think it's simply the BIOS that was trashing the RAM, I'm sure the general architecture of the board plays a part as well.

[@VortexRulezz]

Just use typhoon burner to import all the info in Dram calculator. Easy and 100% sure the info is wright !!! :D

[@insparks782]

I have the Gigabyte B450i with a Ryzen 5 2600, and trying to run the XMP for my Corsair LPX 3200MHz DDR4 will just BSOD. Now, here's the interesting thing. In the XMP Profile, the tRC value is 54, however if I change the tRC to 56, the Gigabyte board is quite happy to run it nice and stable at 3200MHz.

[@RobMoore01]

there is a little app that will read and create a file for the Ryzen calc tool to read (better than the built in R-xmp) Also it is a good idea to set your FCLK to 50% of the RAM speed so for 3600 you want 1800 FCLK. I found some patriot viper 4133 ram really cheap (B-Die) and run it at 3600 with tight timings. I think 3600 is the sweet spot and anything over 3800 you start to see drop offs.

[@Adamant_IT]

I haven't played with Fabric Clock yet, but I've also been hearing the 50% rule, and really want to test it out on my up-coming AMD build.

[@RobMoore01]

@Bruno CR This one www.softnology.biz/files.html

[@ChadDidNothingWrong]

@Sean Price oh yeah? I'm running CL8 on my 2133 sticks, so looks like I win!

[@dnakatomiuk]

I can't get my Corsair 16gb Vengeance RGB Pro ddr4 3200mhz to actually run at 3200, on my gigabyte aurous elite b450 ATX board it will run at 3000mhz but not 3200mhz. I had to turned on xmp and mess with the CPU multipler instead I know something on my ram is at 50 cas I was also getting BSOD every time I had xmp 3200mhz set up but 3000mhz works fine so I've left ir Think I'll give this a go Update 8.08.20: I re enabled XMP and manually enter the TRas setting from 53 to 56 and saves the profile as a new one on my Gigabyte Aurous Elite b450 board and it's been working at 3200mhz for 3 weeks now

[@UmbraAtrox_]

my ddr3 xmp never ran stable (matched pair 2x8gb), so i ran it without xmp. but this year i added 2x4gb different brand different timings, which should have been unstable, runs stable with xmp off

[@MrBook123456]

good video

[@katrinah2893]

Please do a clock speed adjust to match higher speed DRAM stick for Intel iCore chips

[@TodHunterGD]

Great video! What's the intro song called?

[@adelestevens]

Asus rog strix b450-f, ryzen 9 3900 and kingston hyper x Predator. Changing any docp settings away from auto and my pc won't boot at all and I can't get back into bios without cmos reset and wait...at least 2 hours! Done mem tests (4×16gb ddr)...all pass (mem works OK in other pc). I shall study this video and see if there's clues to my problem in here 👍

[@BuGGzLoVeRsTech]

Some budget AM4 Gigabyte boards will have a very slightly higher BCLK ie ruining @100.?MHz I have an Asus board and the BCLK is set to 99.8MHz im guessing the Gigabyte board you have is set to something like 100.?MHz that itself will have a negative effect when trying to set XMP as you are then asking it to run just over its rated speed. If they are just stable @the rated speed adding a few more MHz with of course worsen the situation again due to the BCLK being very slightly over 100MHz. I'm not sure if this applies to all Gigabyte AM4 boards maybe just there budget option but I notice it on a Gigabyte X370 and B450 board, something to look into if nothing if nothing else I guess. Luv the content Sir 👍

[@mentatteg]

my 2700x ddr4 3600 x570 Aorus Elite is at 102mhz bclock

[@danielsaturnino5715]

I wish I had this guide 10 years ago. I'm still have my 10 yo desktop with a gigabyte mainboard with an i7 and a triple channel 3x 2Gb ram sticks. I never managed to run that ram at their stock speed . For some reason the mainboard clocks it slower than it should and chrashes with XMP on. Maybe I'll give it another go.

[@deminybs]

Just add more voltage

[@andrew_koala2974]

@@deminybs One cannot ADD more voltage, on can only INCREASE the voltage. You have a very limited vocabulary, undertake an extensive reading program to improve your knowledge and fluency in the English language to improve the MENTAL MEMORY that exists in your Brain. All the brain cells are not functioning at the correct timing. Forget the computer memory. Improve your brain instead.

[@everope]

@@andrew_koala2974 you have issues

[@mentatteg]

also Rank is if u have 1 or 2 sided ram not if ur in dual channel. if u have 2 dimms and they are in the correct slots then u will be in dual channel or double data rate

[@Adamant_IT]

Ah yea, I just confirmed that - thanks for the tip! Although be careful with the second bit - dual channel is not the same as double data rate.

[@ACOnetwork]

I am using XMP on DDR3 on my desktop PC :P

[@dren8346]

I had a 8gb 2400 kit not run at 2400 but then later on i upgraded to 16gb at 3000mhz and it runs the xmp perfectly fine on the same mb. so yeah xmp is weird sometimes

[@ChadDidNothingWrong]

Both kinds are going to have timings pushed to the limit for their respective speeds, (and much tighter on the 2400, like CL12 instead of 18 or 20) so that's not surprising....they probably just left a bit more leeway with the 3000 ram.

[@katrinah2893]

Please do an intro to getting your memory up to the correct rated speed, or even overclock a bit for the Intel iCore CPU's, Thank you.

[@everope]

On intel it depends if your CPU and motherboard support memory overclocking in the first place. What components do you have?

[@redpotatoes8714]

in DRAM calc, do i choose ZEN + AM4 or do I go ZEN 2 AM4? CPU/APU :r5 3400g - RAM: team delta RGB 16gb 8x 3000mhz

[@Adamant_IT]

3400g is Zen+

[@redpotatoes8714]

@@Adamant_IT thanks!

[@redpotatoes8714]

btw. thanks for this video, this was where I confirmed why my board was reverting back to original ram settings everytime i give my PC a clean or unplug it from the power socket. do you know if there was an updated bios version fix?

[@mttkl]

@@redpotatoes8714 I know it's a little bit late, but maybe the motherboard battery (A small and flat one) is dead or making bad contact? That battery is there to maintain the settings and clock when there's no power to the board.

[@jimmihenry]

Did anyone ask for the Wallpaper name? If not i do :) Where can i find this Wallpaper pls. Thank you i advanced! And thumb up for these how to's.

[@FatheredPuma81]

Wow would have been great if KZbin gave me this video instead of the other crap when I tried searching stuff about RAM. I built a system and used a friends old 1800x for a few weeks while I got the money to purchase a 3600 and had to drop my 3600MHz RAM to 3200MHz. Would have been nice to try getting 3400 or maybe even the full 3600 out of it. Although I guess I could try and get in slightly better timings maybe? Although honestly i'll just revert them as soon as I get a system crash while playing a game so...

[@yotoprules9361]

Is there a calculator for Intel?

[@deminybs]

no just switch to AMD lol 😂

[@yotoprules9361]

@@deminybs i am but i'm receiving my ram before amd 4000 is released.

[@bigpun8363]

I hav the b450 elite gigabyte wit 3200 mhz gskill working rite out the box

[@zfrenchy1716]

what do you think about this method of timing the DRAM ? kzbin.info/www/bejne/qomymZxsedONiJY

[@onetimelifebigcamera1607]

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[@thedanyesful]

XMP is BS. Always has been. At best it will work if you're only using as many modules as you have controller channels. You make the choice to either overclock or to value stability, and yes XMP is overclocking - it is almost always going to run your memory controller out of spec as far as your CPU manufacturer is concerned. Just buy the normal JEDEC RAM speeds. Also I love how you got literally 1 point higher on the Timespy with the 'optimized' settings.