LCD Monitors (TN v IPS)

[@fuppetti]

Taking the camera off the tripod? WHAT IS THIS *MADNESS?!*

[@Kevin-wo3kp]

+Deltaexio 'tis sorcery.

[@jamescook3831]

great video Chris , I always look forward to your videos ,I 'm a older guy and explanation of computers has help me out a lot thanks again

[@ashtongrist]

YOU GUYS ACTUALLY EXPLAIN STUFF AND THATS WHY I SUBSCRIBE

[@lamenamethefirst]

I want to know how the inner workings of an IPS panel is different from a TN. I want more theory.

[@mikkihintikka7273]

yes.

[@hasansalim1868]

Thanks Chris. Watched this video today as I am planning to buy a laptop with TN panel. Nice and informative video, as usual.

[@djxjxixsmjxjskjzxn1853]

Stumbled upon your excellent video whilst looking for a new monitor and being bamboozled by which format to choose. TN it is; tks!

[@homehouse3547]

"now we're disconnected, we might have been that way for years" dam didn't see that comment coming

[@AnalogFoundry]

IPS is love, IPS is life.

[@samgills3408]

i can see the stuttering between ips and tn the camera captured the referesh rate perfectly but i mainly use ips as the stutter is hard to see with the eye alone. Thank you chris ive never wartched a video here without learning something amazing ;")

[@ScriptedOcean]

This video was very useful. I ordered a 165hz Refresh Rate 0.5 ms Response Time monitor and its a TN panel. But I will be looking in the middle of my 2 monitors so I can get better colors.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Enjoy your new monitor! :)

[@MrMoonpie001]

Chris, thank you sooooooo much for this video! I am using the same monitor for the last two computers, but feel I am probably going to have to replace what I have sometime this year. My main interest are in Photoshop, movie production and genealogy so this clears up quite a few questions for me. I have zero interest in gaming, I had already done some shopping but was thrown off by the new specifications on monitors. I tend to take my time when making a purchase so your video puts me right on track for future decision making. Thank you again for much, I appreciate what you do! Rich Tennessee, USA

[@ExplainingComputers]

+MrMoonpie001 Thanks Rich! :) I think you will like my next two videos . . .

[@MrMoonpie001]

Looking forward to it! Thank you Chris! Rich

[@Kevin-wo3kp]

As an extension to this tutorial, would you mind (please) considering showing us how to calibrate a monitor for colour - and even to extend that to the scanner and printer, so what you scan and what you see is what gets printed. Many thanks and Happy New Year - I hope it all goes well for you. ;-)

[@ExplainingComputers]

+Kevin H Hi Kevin, thanks for this -- I will put these ideas on my production slate (which is now pretty full). Given our recent e-mail conversations, you will I think be interested in next week's video. :)

[@Kevin-wo3kp]

Thank you *enormously*. I can't wait!

[@SlapbassTV]

It really does show how fast things evolve and change when you notice that since this video, IPS monitors have quickly evolved to have better response times and much faster refresh rates, thus making them actually very solid for applications like gaming.

[@MrGregory777]

Great video as always

[@TRC98]

ive got a 23" ips and i always thought it stood for Impact Protection System XD

[@18266609]

I have both. Had to rma my ips and after using ips for a year going back to tn there is a clear cut difference in picture. Ill trade off a few ms of response time for an ips any day.

[@ardithconley2628]

Great video. Computer parts are High in cost these days. I bought a old LED monitor from our Good Will for $10 to use as a test monitor for repairs. I tested it and it worked. I got a used VA panel for $108 at Amazon. I hooked them up in a Ryzen 1600 build I did with an old AMD video card. The colors on the $10 old 4x3 led was better looking than the newer 1920x1080 16x9 VA panel. I changed the video card with a GTX 950 TI card I had and was able to adjust the color on the VA panel better with the NVidia controls. Just saying the video card does play into the type of monitor you use.

[@Afura33]

I like your video man, well done. I personally prefer VA panels in general. TN color shifting is massive even if you just move your head a bit and IPS has mostly annoying blacklight light bleeding, ips glowing and terrible black colour which looks more like being grey.

[@craigjensen6853]

YEAH IPS BACK-LIGHT LOOKS LIKE SHIT WE NEED MICRO LED!

[@MarcosCruz-xe7vv]

What an amazing demonstration! Thanks!

[@JuhaKoski]

I always thought VA is the slowest of the three, at least it is the case in the panel I have. Then again my TV has VA panel that is noticeably faster than the VA monitor. But these two have many years of age difference so that might explain some of it. Then again in my eyes the IPS monitor of mine is a tad faster than the VA TV (I do keep the TV in game mode when playing). I also think that for gaming, IPS is very much good enough for a normal mortals and TN is more for esports level of players. Depends on game type a bit too of course. But for normal people I would say IPS is fast enough, and you get those better colours. Unless the monitor comes purely for gaming and absolutely nothing else, then TN could be the one to have. But as said in the video, if you have the possibility, see for yourself before spending money. I think it is also worth mentioning that with VA panels you usually get the deepest black levels of the three.

[@ExplainingComputers]

+Juha Koski Thanks for this -- really good feedback. As you say, it depends on individual models, and all panel types keep improving -- so it depends what is compared with what! Yes, MVA or PVA panels should give the best blacks.

[@kokosnh1170]

there are now 4ms gtg IPS and VA panels out there, but the VA panels aren't consistent on whole color spectrum with the delay, and can go from 4ms to 25ms, while the IPS tends to stay clouse to 4-6ms. And yes the VA have good black compare to IPS, so I can't rely tell why whould you want to do any color based work on IPS.

[@Nesseris]

Looks like I found a great technology channel! Cheers

[@chan.sorman]

The technology acronyms sound like a selection of glue types.

[@cjimcook]

I appreciate the descriptions, thank-you, but if you ever update this video, would you please add an explanation of the internals of the panels? Something that someone that has completed their freshman year of college Electrical Engineering and Physics could appreciate? Some of us really appreciate that level of detail. As for comparing displays before purchase, alas, in this day of everything by Amazon, it's difficult. Too many of us have to rely on on-line reviews, assuming those sites can maintain advertising revenue to not go out of business. Cheers!

[@williamhorton9763]

Which type of monitor is the best? Whichever one you're watching EC on, of course.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Excellent! :)

[@lusurama5080]

Very entertaining and interresting as always:) since you have begun explaining monitors now, I hope you will explain the difference between Oled and LCD some time in the future:)

[@ExplainingComputers]

+Jakob Arntsberg Tuven Now that is a great idea. Noted!

[@w.rustylane5650]

Thanks again, Christopher, for another great video tutorial. How do you know what kind of video monitor you have? I think mine just said LTN156AT01. It came out of an older Dell laptop that crapped out. I saved the monitor and got a video driver board to use for my Raspberry Pi 3 monitor. My wife said I my computer now looks like something from a mad scientist with my driver exposed (but mounted to a 15 inch 2¨X4¨ piece of cedar wood. The button control is screwed upside down to the front and the high voltage is mounted in the back. All I know is that IT WORKS! And that´s what´s important to me. I even saved the hinges and the monitor bezel to reuse. Since this monitor had studs as well as hinges I drilled two holes in the two by four and mounted it on top. It, of course, looks very home made. I´ve got wires from my Raspberry Pi 3, audio cable, power supply cable, optical drive cable and Pi power supply cables all hanging out the back. I guess it does look some what of an electronics lab behind my monitor. But then again, that´s the fun of it all. Cheers, mate! :-)

[@ZadakLeader]

You could have used UFO-test for the refresh rate difference.

[@philipcooper8297]

I know this video is 2 years old now, but TN, just like IPS, technology has advanced a bit since then. The viewing angles and colour reproduction of the latest TN panels is miles away from what a TN panel could do not that long ago.

[@johncgibson4720]

I bought both IPS and TN. Waiting for Amazon delivery.

[@johneygd]

I wish you explained all types of lcd screens because each one is unique and might line up with the right situation of each individual person.

[@zeejenkins]

Wow learned something new! Thanks!

[@RandomName574]

I would like to see a review about the Banana Pi R1 (Router) and as always Great Video! :)

[@therealDannyVasquez]

Excellent video and you, sir, are just awesome! :D

[@ThunderKat]

Me encanta ver como esta creciendo el canal, antes tenía 270k subs ahora anda enlos 271k :)

[@victordeckerquispesantelic5600]

Great video! cheers from Bolivia!

[@edchelstephens]

Thank you for this sir. Very educational

[@prakyathduggirala9482]

Good work sir-!!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Many thanks.

[@trancegotten3699]

Thank you very much nice video!! It helped me a lot!

[@ExplainingComputers]

Great to hear!

[@ThunderKat]

I'm sure this cheap 4:3 TN has no way to compete with an IPS but what about a good TN? Also next time you might wonna test response time with a mouse click or showing both monitors output at the same time (it show the delay when you pause a frame, very acurate if you add a clock on the side) and the ghost effect of moving objects that's so important for competitive FPS games (how much blur).

[@dexmoe]

Amazing video! Thank you!

[@bliztix2]

Good video Topher

[@juniorlewis9173]

Wow! Thanks for uploading another great video.

[@reyquiton4822]

Thanks for this! :D

[@djnazgra]

tnx for explaining!

[@frederik188]

Your videos are just great. Many thanks! :-) Is there any way to support you financially outside of YT?

[@ExplainingComputers]

Thanks for this. I've no non-youtube methods at present, aolthough it you start an Amazon purchase my storefront I get a commission at no cost to yourself: www.amazon.com/shop/explainingcomputers

[@frederik188]

@@ExplainingComputers I'd rather not buy anything from Amazon. 😅 Can your books be bought elsewhere? How much do you get from a YT-Subscription?

[@ExplainingComputers]

@@frederik188 My books can be ordered from any bookshop. :) I don't know exactly how much I get from an individual KZbin subscription, but they make up about 10 per cent of my monthly view-related channel income now, so very much count.

[@Kenzo9063]

Nowadays IPS panels are quite affordable depending on what features your monitor has. If you have something like the dell P series it is definitely more expensive than something that has less features

[@DaDigger]

very informative. are you still going to do a video on optimization of ssd?

[@ExplainingComputers]

+Da- Digger Yes, indeed it should be up sometime in January. :)

[@DaDigger]

+ExplainingComputers I'm looking for to it.

[@sumdude4]

Makes me wonder why they don't use a high speed TN panel and quantum dots as an RGB "filter" that way they emit light instead of filtering light instead of using it as a backlight.

[@adarshsingh764]

Greetings, Christopher Can you tell me how did you make the intro clip? Thanks. Darth Vader

[@ExplainingComputers]

All of my 3D animation is produced in LightWave -- I explain a bit more about it in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaGTgKKdi5J4npI If learning all this again today, I would use Blender, which is free! :)

[@adarshsingh764]

+ExplainingComputers thanks

[@rakyalo]

Thank you for the video

[@jackruby4857]

Could I possibly work on the sound design for your next intro. I feel like there may have been just a change of instrument on the same midi code.

[@ExplainingComputers]

+Jack Ruby Thanks for the offer. And you are right -- same notes, different instruments. Well, and a little bit of a remix of elements. I talk about why in my channel update video from last December.

[@cyromelllow1531]

Hey, can you make a video on how to build a pc or how to learn pc building properly. Thanks.

[@ExplainingComputers]

+Shinigami Chronicles Look back through my videos -- I have made several PC build videos! :) EG see the two-part build starting here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4eYZqaXo5tmr7M Or this build: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZizY2h4d9-ZaZo I am also planning another build later in 2016.

[@cyromelllow1531]

Thank you very much.

[@leonidbondar9577]

With your recommendation tn over ips in most cases here I would disagree. Casual user would certainly benefit from better colors and viewing angles even so it's somewhat more expensive.

[@ScriptedOcean]

If you play FPS games then you will benefit from better performance.

[@Kenzo9063]

you can never go wrong with any monitor as long as you check the specs before purchase. Of course avoiding those unreliable ones. I had a dell monitor that lasted me for a good 10 years but it had to go recently because of burnt panel. Now I have bought another dell monitor (E2219HN) due to its value for money and good specifications. It indeed shows how reliable and reputable their monitors are

[@KarlMaxFernandes]

very nice video, thanks for share and when you push the câmera down is really fun kkkkkkk

[@PVZBlover]

IPS Are Better For Low To Medium Speed Gaming While TN Is For High Speed Or Full Speed Ahead Gaming

[@demonetizeddemonetisedinmy1890]

My TNP phone and the IPS tablet don't differ in quality of colour and sharpness...

[@globoy4682]

most of the PLS has 4-5 ms response i think its enough

[@ricky_pigeon]

I just brought a IPS, 60hertz, I manage to overclock it to 75hertz. since i play games with it to make it a bit more fluent.

[@isildur1fan]

i think best is which one can save ur eyes u know i stay also alot on my monitor and isnt gud for eyes so wich one monitor protect the eyes more is best :)

[@sarvagnyapurohit9719]

Which is the best for gaming and passive 3d? And what about Plasma TV's?

[@ExplainingComputers]

+Sarvagnya Purohit My recommendation for gaming would be TN, though some here are reporting that the latest (and most expensive!) IPS panels are good for gaming. Plasma TVs are no longer manufactured . . .

[@abhinavsanjana]

Respected Sir, How to Improve Visuals on Full HD TN Display on HP Laptop...The Model Number is HP BS 179 TX... Please Guide Me...It Has Extremely Bad Graphics Despite of Full HD and 2 GB Graphics... Please Guide Sir...

[@pingpongpufflefuffle]

ips screen gives me the strangest headache after not even 5 minutes yet i can watch literally all day the tn screen on my little laptop without any problems....

[@cameronretason5073]

I have realised I never go on my laptop anymore. Thought it was because it was slow so added an SSD but realised it was also because it had a TN panel. I like to use my laptop in bed, take it with me on the go so I can work in different places. The screen doesn't offer versitile viewing angles so I want to install an IPS display.

[@PixelPickaxe]

What do you animate your intro in? Max or Blender?

[@ExplainingComputers]

+PixelPickaxe All done in LightWave.

[@akepatinagaraju8564]

thanks u bro

[@mihailvormittag6211]

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[@RCTestKid]

Would you know how to use an iPhone or Android tablet as a wifi adapter for a computer? Reason, the VPN client for my Windows 8.1 PC won't connect to the VPN whereas the app for Android and IOS works fine. (I am using Ivacy) Thanks

[@bay193unbox]

SONY GDM-FW900

[@GraveUypo]

uh, this is kinda iffy. that's a low quality IPS panel you've got there. it's not supposed to distort nearly as much as that. and MVA has the best contrast out of all the panels, it's not "Just a compromise". they can have up to 5 times higher contrast ratio (deeper black levels) compared to IPS panels and certainly have their worth. they're the best for watching movies in dark rooms, for instance. i would also never recommend TN. if you get the choice, ALWAYS go with ips. it's completely worth the "extra money". of course, you don't always get the choice. i for instance wanted a 144hz panel with gsync and low input lag, and back then i was pretty much restricted to TN panels. having used IPS screens for 8 years before this one, there's not a moment i don't resent it for the terrible angles and color reproduction. i'm actually just waiting for an affordable 144hz ips panel to hit stores in my country and i'll probably switch.

[@ATI6950FTW]

got my sub :)

[@omnivorace]

So to watch movies it is better IPS ? Right ?

[@ExplainingComputers]

Yes, you will get better colours and viewing angle with IPS.

[@omnivorace]

Merci !

[@Afura33]

@@omnivorace but the problem with IPS and watching movies are dark scenes or watching in a dark room, the ips glowing can be kinda annoaying and the screen will look more grey than actually black.

[@DoggoRides]

IPS is great for a laptop because the screen will look better on an angle. A TN panel is worst and you lose all the soft color if you have it on a slight angle.

[@harempolnomisia-69]

tn less eyestrain

[@stektirade]

who cares if the viewing angle is worse on tn. no one sits under their desk to use their computer, you sit right in front of it.

[@ExplainingComputers]

:)

[@Machariel00]

OLED monitors when?

[@WhiteUmbra1]

Not for a long time unfortunately

[@Machariel00]

We're talking about monitors so energy efficiency isn't a concern for me.

[@PixelPickaxe]

The Psvita has an OLED monitor

[@petrosmalk3150]

I want a laptop with oled matte display. We are in 2018 and still nothing.

[@louerleseigneur4532]

Thanks

[@aimscoes5756]

I'd take one as PLS tho. They're even better than IPS. Sharper color and better view angle than IPS. I'd still take TN version over IPS unless i found one PLS. I'd rather stick to higher Response time = less motion blur than slightly better color with IPS, again if not PLS.

[@ondiansihombing1637]

i didn't know dwight schrute was a tech geek

[@VincentHermes]

WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT VIEWING ANGLE? Who is gonna buy an IPS Panel just because it has a big viewing angle?! I have one and I just want to find out if it's normal to draw white shadows of low response time behind fast moving objects (it's a really fast IPS with 144Hz though) and no matter where I look for an answer, they're aaalllways talking about stupid viewing angles! This is so damn uninteresting! "I bought that car for 20.000$ because I like it's color" -> Seemingly everyone with an IPS Panel!...

[@georgephilips2537]

Viewing angle means the uniformity and consistency of the picture. Almost all TN panels have unstable picture and people do slight head movements, which changes the angle.

[@mldahlman]

I'm a bit disconected.

[@relaxingnature2617]

I came here to get smarter ..it worked

[@ExplainingComputers]

:)

[@SatyabratSwain1]

VA is best, VA black are real black where IPS black are grey.

[@lamenamethefirst]

But viewing angles are not as good as IPS.

[@Afura33]

I totaly agree here, I always buy VA panels if I can afford it.

[@Afura33]

@@lamenamethefirst true, but the viewing angle from a VA aren't as bad as the viewing angles from TN.

[@Ravenwest19]

IPS flickering on this video... and TN don't why?

[@ExplainingComputers]

+Глеб Ворончихин Because IPS has a lower refresh rate. So the video kind of makes the point for us! :) You can actually see the difference . . .

[@fse7794]

TN is best

[@rc-tv]

2:18 "Best colour *reprodution*"?

[@ExplainingComputers]

+RC TV I think so -- it is widely reported that IPS reproduces colour best -- I've certainly found colour work easier since moving to an IPS screen (you are seeing my old and new monitors in the video!).

[@rc-tv]

Isn't it spelled "reproduction"? It says "reprodution" at 2:18

[@ExplainingComputers]

+RC TV Ah, I have made a typo. Sorry. I am an idiot! :(

[@ExplainingComputers]

+RC TV This is what comes of moving to a video a week! :)

[@fuppetti]

+ExplainingComputers No problem, I didn't notice! And I've learned something new as intended ;-)

[@KJ7JHN]

@ 5:08, Screams in fright. Nooooooooooo, but okay.

[@CommanderKappa]

Well seems like I'm the only one who has an VA Panel Monitor.

[@filiphforsberg4036]

The TN panel in this vido is trash. Probably the IPS panel to. BUT this video makes TN looks garbage. TN can have ALMOST as good color depths as an IPS panel, if you choose a high end monitor that will say. I bought a MG279Q(IPS) and it had way to much ips glow and backlight bleed for me to be able to enjoy it. I returned it and went for the same monitor with TN panel insted (MG278q). Great monitor, would recommend it to anyone that wants 1440p, 144hz and 1ms response time. It also have a 8bit panel, wich makes the colours increadible

[@lorderectus1849]

These days it’s ips and va panels!

[@DupczacyBawol]

the two monitors are THE SAME.

[@ExplainingComputers]

Same case, same connectivity. But one is TN, and the other IPS.

[@lorderectus1849]

He says he’s been bent for years!

[@petrosmalk3150]

Never buy TN, this is crap!

[@mr.wigglemunch3856]

TN panels are horrible, don't understand why they still make them.

[@TraceFoxo]

I really hate TN panels

[@Afura33]

Why?

[@TraceFoxo]

@@Afura33 because the viewing angles are really really bad, and the colors are not great too.

[@Afura33]

@@TraceFoxo but the view angel issue is less strong on the VA panels right? I am mean less strong than with TN panels.

[@forevercomputing]

You're using a lot of American version of words. Adding Zs to words where an S is better suited ;)

[@ExplainingComputers]

Most viewers here are American, and about 90 per cent of the readers of my books are American. So I write with a "z" by default now! :)

[@PawanKumar-nx1eu]

first as alaways

[@MarcosCruz-xe7vv]

+Pawan Kumar *Always

[@vannakkeo7453]

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