The billion dollar race for the perfect display

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@TechAltar
@TechAltar 11 ай бұрын
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@_SteC13
@_SteC13 11 ай бұрын
What do u think of inktjet printer oled displays?
@mehmetgurdal
@mehmetgurdal 11 ай бұрын
man I've been seeing this camera on Fortnine pretty frequently. its a sweet gear no doubt on that.
@luxemier
@luxemier 11 ай бұрын
thank you for this video. if you search up how these panels work its hard to actually find good info. all google saysa is "lcds use a backlight" blablabla. i dont know what that means. but here you show exactly how these monitors work
@oo--7714
@oo--7714 11 ай бұрын
Weird how you didn’t talk about pwm and how certain Chinese companies like oppo are using dc dimming to stop the effect.
@redharrison894
@redharrison894 11 ай бұрын
Comparing MicroLED with OLED it's like comparing a lightyear starship with a tractor 😂
@cc0767
@cc0767 11 ай бұрын
This makes you wonder how insane the machining and tooling of the industry must be to place millions of pixel so accurately
@ivanjermakov
@ivanjermakov 11 ай бұрын
Not even comparable to tolerances in semiconductor manufacturing (10nm vs 100um, 10000x difference).
@Gabtube252
@Gabtube252 11 ай бұрын
@@ivanjermakov Insane, they upscaled precision from 1um to 1000nm to 1000000pm. A whopping 1.0x10^0 increase in magnitude.
@ivanjermakov
@ivanjermakov 11 ай бұрын
@@Gabtube252 haha, I had to read your comment twice
@Urboyfromfuture
@Urboyfromfuture 11 ай бұрын
True. And yet people think this products are expensive. But when we look at the making of this, we realise that they are priced less wrt cost that goes in r&d.
@aquaneon8012
@aquaneon8012 11 ай бұрын
cpus/gpus only need to grow the die on the wafer. they dont have to pick up the dies from the wafer and then move them over to another substrate like in microled displays. plus a cpu only needs 1 die to function. in a microled tv each led is a die. a single 4k tv will require 24 million dies and you cannot have a single defective die or the display will have a dead pixel. Even with a 99.99% yield rate, you will be left with 100s of defective dies for a single tv. @@ivanjermakov
@ericjorgensen6425
@ericjorgensen6425 11 ай бұрын
Minor Correction: natural state of an lcd pixel is clear, not dark. With no electric field, the crystals naturally twist the light, allowing light to pass through. With a field on, the crystals line up end to end and stop twisting the light, allowing the polarizer to block the light.
@rugvedmulay5090
@rugvedmulay5090 11 ай бұрын
So does LCD need more battery to block the light?
@EricChiEric
@EricChiEric 11 ай бұрын
i think it depends if it is a tn or ips display
@MrDuncl
@MrDuncl 11 ай бұрын
That depends on how you align the polarizors. How many of you flipped the polarisor in your calculator to get a clear on black display ? Some LCD watches are made the same way to make them look a bit different.
@maidpretty
@maidpretty 11 ай бұрын
Only TN (twisted nematic) LCD that are used for entry level TV/displays are normally open ("on" with no electric field, "off" with), IPS-types and VA-types TFT LCDs that are used in most displays/TVs are normally closed ("off" with no voltage). That's why "dead" pixels tend to be bright on TNs and black on others.
@Mr.Scopesike
@Mr.Scopesike 11 ай бұрын
@@EricChiEric What is that tn lcd display?
@dgillies5420
@dgillies5420 11 ай бұрын
Blue LEDs are used for all Quantum dot displays, because blue has the highest frequency & energy among ( red or green or blue ), so its color can be stepped-down to red or green colors with quantum dots and little or no brightness loss. Also the creation of practical bright blue LEDs is relatively new (~1990) , and not only enabled the reading head for 25GB blu-ray players (previously we only have 4GB DVD pllayers), but also these quantum-dot displays.
@Root__314
@Root__314 11 ай бұрын
Get outta here physics nerd! Very good, man. Thanks for sharing your knowledge :)
@jatoxo
@jatoxo 11 ай бұрын
1990 was over three decades ago. That's not relatively new in terms of technology....
@Mr.Anders0n_
@Mr.Anders0n_ 11 ай бұрын
​@@jatoxo it is in terms of developing cheap mass production techniques. Solar panels are another examples. The main technologies were discovered/invented long time ago, but it took decades for the prices to become affordable
@Shreyas-S
@Shreyas-S 11 ай бұрын
The Nobel prize for the invention of blue LEDs was well deserved
@slowanddeliberate6893
@slowanddeliberate6893 11 ай бұрын
I thought blu-ray used a blue laser?
@jeffreyrodman
@jeffreyrodman 10 ай бұрын
Having spent a career in electronic image processing and display (see PictureTel, Polycom, HP), I find this to be a superb description of the current frontrunner technologies. It taught me several things in the most modern tech I did not know, and does it simply and clearly. Thank you for a very nice job!
@ArnoldTohtFan
@ArnoldTohtFan 9 ай бұрын
Do micro LED displays use glass screens or plastic? One of the reasons I've always loved plasma displays is the glass screens. The optical properties of glass are unmatched.
@Zytron
@Zytron 9 ай бұрын
MicroLED is what I've always assumed normal pixels were like. I had no idea it was actually so complicated
@xenird
@xenird Ай бұрын
Same, I only started learning about monitors after I got an OLED phone and it looked better than LCD and I was like hmm why is this a thing Crazy how the only actually good technology (microled) is so insanely expensive
@e8root
@e8root Ай бұрын
You would think you just need to use typical methods you use for putting components on PCBs... and yeah, it is how they make them but if you consider size of the display. number of LEDs (8.3 million for 4K display! Or 3 times that if you choose to use separate R, G and B LEDs for higher brightness) and that you are directly looking at such PCB where each part glows for better visibility it then makes sense that cost for making such display would be high. Not to mention all the LEDs itself are pretty expensive. What we really need is to have something where each LED can be grown directly on the panel substrate - in this case it will be blue LED and quantum dot filters will be used to make it RGB... and actually it is most probably how it is made with MicroLEDs because even if inorganic LEDs do burn-in slower they are still exhibiting reduction of brightness and different colors experience it differently. You would not want your fancy MicroLED that costs million dollars to get yellow or pink or blueish, etc. over time.
@N0Xa880iUL
@N0Xa880iUL Ай бұрын
You're exactly right! That's why I was always amazed by how cheap color displays had become.
@e8root
@e8root Ай бұрын
@@xenird MicroLED also has compromises and flaws. It is only perfect when you don't see it. Besides as far as colors are concerned QD-OLED has almost the same colors and is very much like mobile OLEDs but does not have issues with MURA, dirty screen effect and doesn't burn in as much and certainly color doesn't change over time. The only thing MicroLED has over QD-OLED is being able to be super bright.. ...and otherwise you did see MicroLEDs! All these super bright billboards that you always wondered why they are legal when they blind all the drivers are using the same tech - MicroLED just have more tightly packed pixels and typically you don't see any effort to correct gamut of ads on these billboards so colors there look ridiculous and MicroLED TV will have gamut corrected. Otherwise issues you can see on these billboards are the same as MicroLED has - just being indoors tech MicroLED has less issues like these... and if anything technician will come to your mansion and will repair them for you :) Otherwise where it comes to actually good display technologies for home you had Pioneer Kuro plasmas - the TV you if you have today you can expect that people who visit you and see this thing will comment on it and ask you... why the hell does this TV looks so damn good??!! And no, it isn't limited to LCD users. Less so QD-OLED users (because WOLED is simply worse) but even then these plasmas were much better tuned for humans where it comes to light spectrum.
@gabrielv.4358
@gabrielv.4358 Ай бұрын
This is nothing. led displays are cheap and rubbish. lcd is even worse, but it has no burn in effect. crts are the peak
@murathankayhan2312
@murathankayhan2312 11 ай бұрын
I love it when you analyse the trending innovations on actual tech. Not the gossip tech. I've been following you since 2018 and you never let me down with satisfying tech content. Thanks Marton!
@ebubeawachie
@ebubeawachie 11 ай бұрын
Concur. I prefer this type of his videos. He’s one of the best tech analysts in n KZbin
@oliver-04
@oliver-04 11 ай бұрын
Yup, TechAltar is good at making vids
@borntoclimb7116
@borntoclimb7116 11 ай бұрын
Same here
@motherlandmars5999
@motherlandmars5999 11 ай бұрын
Crustaceans and other animals did not evolve. Among the millions of fossils dug up from the earth, there is not a single intermediate fossil that proves evolution. Several hundreds of millions of years ago, crabs and other animals were in their current form. The theory of evolution is a dogma without any scientific proof. The reasons for defending the theory of evolution are ideological, not scientific. Scientists have discovered that all organs, which evolutionists call obsolete organs, perform important functions. Mutations believed to trigger evolution have been shown to be completely harmful. That is, mutations do not give advantages to living things. On the contrary, it harms. Evolutionists pointed to fossils of the coelacanth fish as evidence of the transition from water to land. However, a living specimen of this fish was found and it was found that the coelacanth fish is currently a fish that lives on the bottom of the ocean. Finally, I would like to mention that evolutionists can't explain how a living organism arose from inanimate matter. Living things did not appear through evolution, but through the Cambrian explosion. This proves the creation. Almighty Allah created all living things. Praise be to Allah Almighty, the Lord of the Worlds!
@tobyehrfilms
@tobyehrfilms 11 ай бұрын
I gotta say you cracked the algorithm code for nerdy techie videos while doing 0% clickbait + 100% good story telling
@reanimationxp
@reanimationxp 11 ай бұрын
One of the best and most concise and accurate presentations of older display tech all the way up to the bleeding edge latest stuff. VERY well done my friend! Subbed!
@nfrenay
@nfrenay 11 ай бұрын
I second that. That's really well done. Subscribed as well.
@bushwakko
@bushwakko 11 ай бұрын
Same. Good job!
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 11 ай бұрын
The best display tech already exists, it's called Cathode Ray Tube. No aliasing, no native resolution, perfect motion, infinite contrast (they are analog displays, not digital), variable refresh rates. The only weakness, they are heavy and bulky.
@motherlandmars5999
@motherlandmars5999 11 ай бұрын
Crustaceans and other animals did not evolve. Among the millions of fossils dug up from the earth, there is not a single intermediate fossil that proves evolution. Several hundreds of millions of years ago, crabs and other animals were in their current form. The theory of evolution is a dogma without any scientific proof. The reasons for defending the theory of evolution are ideological, not scientific. Scientists have discovered that all organs, which evolutionists call obsolete organs, perform important functions. Mutations believed to trigger evolution have been shown to be completely harmful. That is, mutations do not give advantages to living things. On the contrary, it harms. Evolutionists pointed to fossils of the coelacanth fish as evidence of the transition from water to land. However, a living specimen of this fish was found and it was found that the coelacanth fish is currently a fish that lives on the bottom of the ocean. Finally, I would like to mention that evolutionists can't explain how a living organism arose from inanimate matter. Living things did not appear through evolution, but through the Cambrian explosion. This proves the creation. Almighty Allah created all living things. Praise be to Allah Almighty, the Lord of the Worlds!
@mr_confuse
@mr_confuse 10 ай бұрын
​@@saricubra2867imagine how fucking fast the beam has to travel to give us a 16:9 v200hz display lol. Also curved and ultra wide displays are near impossible to create. It's pretty good, but with all the limitations I wouldn't call it perfect.
@davidkelly1414
@davidkelly1414 11 ай бұрын
I always wanted to know how LCD, OLED and LED displays worked and particularly how they evolved. A brilliant and very instructive video . Now my admiration for the innovators of these technologies has risen to greater heights. Thank you TechAltar for a really creative production.
@donaldobrien9171
@donaldobrien9171 11 ай бұрын
I heard "crap" instead of "crab"
@capslfern2555
@capslfern2555 4 ай бұрын
Lol
@tobyehrfilms
@tobyehrfilms 11 ай бұрын
I remember in 2012 in a big electronics store in Germany I saw a (in retrospective) tiny 12" oled screen on display for the first time. It was a screen by LG. The colors and black levels were out of this world at the time. It really got my 12 year old self excited for the future of tech. I was in that electronics store looking at this screen almost every two days 😅
@MrDuncl
@MrDuncl 11 ай бұрын
I had a similar feeling when I saw a TFT display on a laptop for the first time in the 1990s. Before then the infamous Dual Scan LCDs needed "mouse trails" to keep track of where the pointer was when you moved the mouse.
@alice_agogo
@alice_agogo 11 ай бұрын
Sony was late to market even though they unveiled the first OLED consumer prototype
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 11 ай бұрын
Definetly you never watched a CRT in the dark, it's the same as a OLED but with perfect motion, no aliasing and doesn't have a native resolution.
@alice_agogo
@alice_agogo 11 ай бұрын
@@saricubra2867 not really. Crt has no deep blacks
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 11 ай бұрын
@@alice_agogo it does have deep blacks like an OLED, the electron gun doesn't hit the phosphors for black areas therefore no light.
@OlleHellman
@OlleHellman 11 ай бұрын
If the manufacturers were this good at explaining their tech more would be interested =)
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 11 ай бұрын
OR maybe most AVERAGE consumers don't care to learn because they're either too lazy or too ignorant. Don't blame the manufacturers. 🤣🤣🤣
@Pspet
@Pspet 11 ай бұрын
It's not that they are bad, they just don't care to explain anything. They care only about marketable bullshit.
@HypnosisBear
@HypnosisBear 11 ай бұрын
Not at all true lol. You and me are interested in this and like these type of stuff. But an average person couldn't care less other than the price and features that it offers.
@lilyofluck371
@lilyofluck371 11 ай бұрын
​@@PSYCHOV3N0MWell, no manufacturer has ever explained their technology to this degree and this way so we can't know until they start getting better at explaining their tech
@MRSketch09
@MRSketch09 11 ай бұрын
@@PSYCHOV3N0M No.. its the manufacturers.. .can't agree on standards. etc.. can't market.
@aditya_on_youtube
@aditya_on_youtube 11 ай бұрын
This was so beautifully explained! I recently bought an LG OLED TV and before buying I read up a lot about QLED, MiniLED, WOLED, QD-OLED and all. But this video gave me a better understanding than what I had got after watching hours of videos on other tech channels. Well done and thank you!
@TheIntelligentVehicle
@TheIntelligentVehicle 11 ай бұрын
This is definitely a classic TechAltar video. Such an accessible but (for the layperson) comprehensive overview. Many thanks, as always.
@sekkuar
@sekkuar 10 ай бұрын
I had two Samsung AMOLED phones in the past years, and one thing I've noticed is that there's actually a delay in turning the individual pixels ON or OFF. For example if you have a picture with black parts of the screen and you scroll this image around (like scrolling pictures on Facebook for example) you can actually notice how the parts of the screen that were black takes an extra moment to lit up, and the parts that were lit but now have black takes a moment before they are completely black. Not sure if this is a software issue or a hardware issue, but either way it's quite noticeable.
@UNLKYHNTR
@UNLKYHNTR 10 ай бұрын
That's a common problem on OLED. iPhones have it, Samsungs have it. My first smartphone was a galaxy S1 (Back in 2009/2010) and it had the same problem, I now have a nothing Phone 2 and the problem is still there. It's less prominent when the screen is brighter,
@giragama
@giragama 8 ай бұрын
I have a Xiaomi with AMOLED screen and I have never noticed that issue.
@czech8797
@czech8797 8 ай бұрын
It's all about refresh rate or heartz
@sekkuar
@sekkuar 8 ай бұрын
@@czech8797 I don't think so. I've tested with both 60Hz and 120Hz and they behave exactly the same. I don't think the refresh rate changes the speed it takes for the LEDs to turn off and on, only to change the colors of the LEDs that are already on.
@czech8797
@czech8797 8 ай бұрын
@@sekkuar btw we can see that it by manually moving a app or black element, otherwise when you see videos you cant see because it's running in high refresh rate
@Techno-Universal
@Techno-Universal 11 ай бұрын
3:30 Actually the backlight in early LCD TVs and monitors before the early 2010s all used small fluorescent tube bulbs that ran the whole width of the display with there being many of them across the whole display hight. Early backlit LCD monitors from the late 1980s only used a single tube to light the backlight spreader layer.
@q1337
@q1337 11 ай бұрын
i have a 2010ish LG monitor TV that takes a bit to fully warm up next to my more modern 2017ish Asus thats turns on instantly, is that the reason why?
@fungo6631
@fungo6631 11 ай бұрын
Lower end monochrome LCDs used LEDs as well on smaller sizes.
@RothAnim
@RothAnim 11 ай бұрын
@@q1337 Yep! I had a few LCD displays from that era that used fluorescent backlights. If I remember correctly, laptops made the jump to LED backlights first, with the rest of the industry waiting until the price of LEDs dropped to be competitive with fluorescents.
@IgnacyG1998
@IgnacyG1998 11 ай бұрын
@@fungo6631 And higher end monochrome LCDs used electroluminescent sheets, which are now on their way to become "the perfect display" with electroluminescent QDs. That's some amazing convergent evolution.
@IgnacyG1998
@IgnacyG1998 11 ай бұрын
Yep, I have a late 1980s Casio LCD TV, it's about 2" diagonally and 2" deep to accomodate a CCFL tube and light spreader. It's dim and incredibly uneven. Flat CRTs were much better but no one bothered making them color, that'd need Indextron type tech which was too expensive for such a niche market.
@smartunknown1
@smartunknown1 11 ай бұрын
This is an ABSOLUTELY AMAZING VIDEO. I dont know why but i think for simplicity many youtubers dont go into detail in these topics. And i love learning about how each of these displays work
@sillylieu
@sillylieu 11 ай бұрын
Anyone remember Plasma TVs?
@kosttoxi
@kosttoxi 7 ай бұрын
i have a Panasonic plasma.. end an oled lg
@kaushalsuvarna5156
@kaushalsuvarna5156 7 ай бұрын
How about CRTs 😂
@tyrport
@tyrport 7 ай бұрын
I’m old enough that I remember our first color TV. Since my chair was closest I was the “ remote control “
@kaushalsuvarna5156
@kaushalsuvarna5156 7 ай бұрын
@@tyrport i was the remote control for my grandfather's black and white cabinet TV 😂
@anneritchie8264
@anneritchie8264 7 ай бұрын
I have a plasma and a LCD. The plasma is so pretty, but isn't so good for playing Xbox. So I play games on the LCD and watch sports on the plasma. Hockey is exceptionally good looking on the plasma
@KNOWLEDGELEVER
@KNOWLEDGELEVER Ай бұрын
Forget TVs, I'm getting a pet crab. It's the ultimate display-built-in backlight, incredible blacks, and very low maintenance. Win-win!
@chuck9693
@chuck9693 5 күн бұрын
Crab tv with built in back light is insane dawg
@oBseSsIoNPC
@oBseSsIoNPC 11 ай бұрын
Just wow....this video is a gem, explaining the difference very well, regardless of some minor technical mistakes. The technology blows my mind and watching this on my Samsung S23 ultra, I can attest that the display is mind-blowing bright. I have no problems watching in bright sunlight and the brightness adjusts very smoothly to the environment. It looks like they are moving quite fast through new technologies, I am very impressed.
@OscarRobbing
@OscarRobbing 11 ай бұрын
Wow these explanations and accompanying graphics were super insightful!
@davidbutler8096
@davidbutler8096 11 ай бұрын
Amazing leaps and bounds in the display market since I was a kid. Back then...The biggest CRT was like 32 inches and weighed hundreds of pounds, cost thousands of dollars and might last a lifetime...especially if it was a Sony. The Samsung on my desk now is just as large, but weighs less than 20 lbs and was less than $300. I was surprised to find out that both Samsung and LG are Korean companies...not that there's anything wrong with that.
@MrDuncl
@MrDuncl 11 ай бұрын
Sony thought the future was Field Emission Displays. p.s. Check out the Mitsubishi 37" 4-3 CRTs. I knew someone who had one. It took four men to get it upstairs !
@davidbutler8096
@davidbutler8096 11 ай бұрын
@@MrDuncl Remember the old rear projection boxes...speaking of Mitsu. I loved busting them open and getting the big lenses...looking at one now. Sony really dropped the ball on consumer electronics...well, except for maybe Playstation, right?...their cellphones sucked, they quit tv's and stereos...I don't get it. Japanese was always better than just about everything...remember Nakamichi?
@yzerjakenavarroza
@yzerjakenavarroza 10 ай бұрын
The popularity of Korean dramas and K-pop is undeniable, and both are known for their high production values. This includes stunning visuals, often featuring vibrant colors, intricate details, and fast-paced action sequences, so of course, companies like Samsung and LG face pressure to constantly innovate and offer the latest advancements to stay ahead of the curve. The demand for superior screens also extends beyond media consumption. The rise of gaming, virtual reality, and other forms of interactive entertainment also incentivize the development of better display technologies.
@gabrielvieira6529
@gabrielvieira6529 Ай бұрын
We had 40 inch CRT's, the largest we ever made
@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867
@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867 Күн бұрын
The sad part is that CRTs still are better in many ways, I wonder how far that technology could have been pushed if endless resources were poured into them like LCDs and OLEDs have been. To be blunt, not a single new display method will come close to the response time or refresh rate of a good CRT. Not because I say so, but because the way the technologies work (and how a digital signal works) would require decades to make it work. The existence of any buffer system at all means that the response times in digital signals will always be bad, even the OLED that cuts response times to a fraction of its LCD competitor, is still far slower than a CRT.
@aspensareprettyneat4002
@aspensareprettyneat4002 11 ай бұрын
This was very good thank you. I've always had a general idea of how they work, but this was significantly more in depth and the CGI breakdowns were super helpful. Awesome new tech on the horizon.
@motherlandmars5999
@motherlandmars5999 11 ай бұрын
Crustaceans and other animals did not evolve. Among the millions of fossils dug up from the earth, there is not a single intermediate fossil that proves evolution. Several hundreds of millions of years ago, crabs and other animals were in their current form. The theory of evolution is a dogma without any scientific proof. The reasons for defending the theory of evolution are ideological, not scientific. Scientists have discovered that all organs, which evolutionists call obsolete organs, perform important functions. Mutations believed to trigger evolution have been shown to be completely harmful. That is, mutations do not give advantages to living things. On the contrary, it harms. Evolutionists pointed to fossils of the coelacanth fish as evidence of the transition from water to land. However, a living specimen of this fish was found and it was found that the coelacanth fish is currently a fish that lives on the bottom of the ocean. Finally, I would like to mention that evolutionists can't explain how a living organism arose from inanimate matter. Living things did not appear through evolution, but through the Cambrian explosion. This proves the creation. Almighty Allah created all living things. Praise be to Allah Almighty, the Lord of the Worlds!
@LethalChicken77
@LethalChicken77 10 ай бұрын
Crazy how back in the CRT days they were always trying to make their screens bigger, and now with microLED screens they are trying to make them smaller
@RandyBeck-z7s
@RandyBeck-z7s 11 ай бұрын
That was fanTASTIC! Thank you. I find the much older techniques of creating a moving picture fascinating, but these new goals are INSANE! Subscribed!
@OrafuDa
@OrafuDa 11 ай бұрын
16:16 Yep. The problem is also, whoever gets to solve their problems first will probably kick the others out of the market. That means, no continuing development for the other technologies, because they don’t make the money any more to pay for it. Let’s just hope that the end result also checks some of the other boxes that are often secondary in a tech race, like sustainability and low toxicity.
@Max_Jacoby
@Max_Jacoby 11 ай бұрын
SSD is better technology than HDD but it can't kick out HDD for decades. So HDD companies had plenty of time to catch up. Whoever comes to new display technology first only gives their competitor a hint not a kick.
@OrafuDa
@OrafuDa 11 ай бұрын
@@Max_Jacoby You may be right about that. Let’s hope that. On the other hand, there were companies set up to make e-paper (aka e-ink, which Kindle devices use) much better, with colors, even better contrast and lighting, and I believe higher frequency of change. But that development has stalled, because tablets and mobile phones have such a big chunk of the market. There is no good prospect for making money with better e-paper. For a technology to justify development costs (ie. improvement costs, not just survival), its market niche needs to be large enough and significantly different from competing technologies. SSDs are superior to HDDs in almost every way, except for the cost per storage unit. And HDDs beat SSDs by a high enough margin on cost/storage so that people still want them. And decades of prior development and enough accumulated knowledge about how to improve HDDs probably also contribute to them getting better. But, on the other hand, what people really want are way cheaper SSDs. And as soon as that happens, there will be no reasons for anyone to invest money into improving HDDs further. With display technologies, it is a similar race. They have become similar enough so that one of them may become superior in every important aspect to the others. Maybe a competing technology will still be far better for, say, small or tiny high-resolution displays as the “winning” technology. That would be a niche that *might* make enough money and hold enough prospects to justify further development. But if the “winning” technology has a convincing roadmap to cover that niche as well, then interest and investments in the niche technology will dry up. We will see how it goes.
@bobyford8051
@bobyford8051 11 ай бұрын
Not really, the video explained that even tho new technology ("LED") has been out, people are still buying LCD displays and by a huge margin.
@TearlessGosling
@TearlessGosling 11 ай бұрын
RIP Plasma
@deezwho8990
@deezwho8990 11 ай бұрын
That's why Samsung is selling displays to other smartphone/tv brands
@Accuaro
@Accuaro 11 ай бұрын
11:36 Yeah see that isn't how it works, QDOLED is already top emission so putting an MLA layer on top, which as you just said refocuses the light outwards, would make no sense because all light from QDOLED is already being thrown out.
@lucasrem
@lucasrem 9 ай бұрын
Micro Lens Array you meant, LG VS Samsung. emission, shattered light you meant ? It's the prisme, the pixel, you get all colors troughs the lens array
@hohhan1978
@hohhan1978 7 ай бұрын
MLA actually will help. QD OLED have crazy view angles but its actually unnecessary for direct viewing on TV. So slightly limiting fild of view for higher peak brightness will be actually substantial. But im now thinking more about QDEL (Quantum Dot Electo Luminescent) displays from SHARP. So that and QD Micro LED will be only noticeable upgrade for QD-OLED TV owners😄
@J.Wick.
@J.Wick. 11 ай бұрын
I bought my first OLED a bit over 5 yrs ago. Just bought a 2nd last month. There's no comparison to an LCD to my eyes, atleast an LCD of similar price. MLA looks promising. But for now, WOled is it. No burn-in on my sets. And half the time they've been used as a PC mon.
@raymorgan4657
@raymorgan4657 10 ай бұрын
Great video. I know one thing, I love my LG C2 OLED that I bought last April. Some bright Dolby Vision scenes still make me say wow after 9 months of watching it.
@Epicgamer_Mac
@Epicgamer_Mac 11 ай бұрын
Truly one of the best and most detailed in-depth tech videos I’ve ever seen. I learned so much about how screens work!
@miloshp7399
@miloshp7399 11 ай бұрын
I never knew there are so many crab-like not crab creatures that evolutionally converged. So that's my takeaway from this tech video 😀
@OroborOSX11
@OroborOSX11 11 ай бұрын
If MicroLED can solve the seam issue and bring down the price…then I’m all in.
@emiel255
@emiel255 11 ай бұрын
Exactly! I’m very excited for those monitors coming out in probably 10 years at least haha
@HailAzathoth
@HailAzathoth 11 ай бұрын
The price of uLED will never come close to that of LCD displays. They will remain the highest end displays indefinitely.
@maynardburger
@maynardburger 11 ай бұрын
You've got $20,000 to spend on a TV, I hope. They can only ever bring the price down to something that still approaches 'insane' by even most enthusiast standards. It is inherently expensive technology, far moreso than regular OLED. Unfortunately we've gotten spoiled with the idea that technology will always just keep getting cheaper, when there's lots of stuff that cant(at least practically) and have gone out of business/production as a result. Kind of a survival bias in effect. I think MicroLED may well face that same fate at some point, because its advantages will shrink, and the price gap for the remaining advantages will remain absolutely enormous.
@Warp2090
@Warp2090 Ай бұрын
OLED is way better than micro led though.
@marrow94
@marrow94 11 ай бұрын
The best video to share with friends, to explain in a precise and fast way how screens work. You just made my life easier, as I'm the "tech friend" in my group and I have to explain these things constantly.
@JasonBoone-gv4ch
@JasonBoone-gv4ch 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, TechAltar. Your bridge building is the true illumination here! Pioneers such as yourself are the ones who made the construction of the Great Alexandrian library possible. Continue the great work my friend!
@pedrosoares7273
@pedrosoares7273 10 ай бұрын
Finally I understand why white backgrounds on oled look green to me: the red, blue and green diodes are all maxed but we are more sensible to green light
@kobalos73
@kobalos73 11 ай бұрын
I was always wondering what's the difference between the different TVs. That was a very helpful video, thanks for explaining the differences so clearly!
@motherlandmars5999
@motherlandmars5999 11 ай бұрын
Crustaceans and other animals did not evolve. Among the millions of fossils dug up from the earth, there is not a single intermediate fossil that proves evolution. Several hundreds of millions of years ago, crabs and other animals were in their current form. The theory of evolution is a dogma without any scientific proof. The reasons for defending the theory of evolution are ideological, not scientific. Scientists have discovered that all organs, which evolutionists call obsolete organs, perform important functions. Mutations believed to trigger evolution have been shown to be completely harmful. That is, mutations do not give advantages to living things. On the contrary, it harms. Evolutionists pointed to fossils of the coelacanth fish as evidence of the transition from water to land. However, a living specimen of this fish was found and it was found that the coelacanth fish is currently a fish that lives on the bottom of the ocean. Finally, I would like to mention that evolutionists can't explain how a living organism arose from inanimate matter. Living things did not appear through evolution, but through the Cambrian explosion. This proves the creation. Almighty Allah created all living things. Praise be to Allah Almighty, the Lord of the Worlds!
@devalsays
@devalsays 11 ай бұрын
now i have to search whats going on with all Crab things ..
@bobolobocus333
@bobolobocus333 11 ай бұрын
Carcinosisation?
@devalsays
@devalsays 11 ай бұрын
@@bobolobocus333 Yes i never knew about that ..
@fuel-pcbox
@fuel-pcbox 11 ай бұрын
0:01 Ah yes, I'm proud to be a member of the LGTV community.
@Raebeing
@Raebeing 3 ай бұрын
SLAY
@xrismanessa3993
@xrismanessa3993 7 ай бұрын
Thanks to Nakamura for blue led
@pikkuland
@pikkuland Ай бұрын
Not enough recognition for his work (and how he got it right)
@Aesthetycs
@Aesthetycs 6 ай бұрын
A mistake in the beginning: LCD was not to replace CRT. It was to replace Plasmas, which previously replaced CRT.
@forasago
@forasago 3 ай бұрын
Plasma only existed in TVs. Other screens never used plasma so it's not fair to say plasma had replaced CRT.
@DavidJames-v1y
@DavidJames-v1y Ай бұрын
They really both existed at the same time, even as monochrome computer monitors, especially in laptops.
@GFClocked
@GFClocked 11 ай бұрын
Such a good video. I kept trying to explain this to a friend after doing hundreds (if not thousands) of hours of research into this, but this video explains it so well
@motherlandmars5999
@motherlandmars5999 11 ай бұрын
Crustaceans and other animals did not evolve. Among the millions of fossils dug up from the earth, there is not a single intermediate fossil that proves evolution. Several hundreds of millions of years ago, crabs and other animals were in their current form. The theory of evolution is a dogma without any scientific proof. The reasons for defending the theory of evolution are ideological, not scientific. Scientists have discovered that all organs, which evolutionists call obsolete organs, perform important functions. Mutations believed to trigger evolution have been shown to be completely harmful. That is, mutations do not give advantages to living things. On the contrary, it harms. Evolutionists pointed to fossils of the coelacanth fish as evidence of the transition from water to land. However, a living specimen of this fish was found and it was found that the coelacanth fish is currently a fish that lives on the bottom of the ocean. Finally, I would like to mention that evolutionists can't explain how a living organism arose from inanimate matter. Living things did not appear through evolution, but through the Cambrian explosion. This proves the creation. Almighty Allah created all living things. Praise be to Allah Almighty, the Lord of the Worlds!
@akitax1803
@akitax1803 11 ай бұрын
I feel way smarter now thanks to this video. Thank you for making it.
@2nd-place
@2nd-place 11 ай бұрын
11:47 he’s hiring innovations? Ok lol
@debilthomes501
@debilthomes501 5 ай бұрын
I think for now I'll hang on to my 2008 Pioneer Elite Plasma, which at the time was regarded by many as the best picture quality ever achieved. Still looks good to me.
@olifantpeer4700
@olifantpeer4700 11 ай бұрын
Phenomenal video! Only wish you would've talked about response times/motion clarity (near-instantaneous for OLEDs) a bit more but not too big of a deal
@hmilles
@hmilles 11 ай бұрын
he does briefly mention it in the introduction of OLEDs
@cc0767
@cc0767 11 ай бұрын
Response time of OLED is so fast its actually bad for low refresh rates like 60hz. It feels a lot less smooth to me on my Oled than on my LCD monitors. Always get the 120hz if you can.
@olifantpeer4700
@olifantpeer4700 11 ай бұрын
@@hmilles Now that you mention it, yeah motion clarity in general wasn't really mentioned. So refresh rates, response times and input latency
@TheGc13psj
@TheGc13psj 11 ай бұрын
​@@cc0767my solution for this in games at 30 or 60 is to turn on motion blur in games. I know it get a bad rep, but it actually helps a lot.
@Neucher
@Neucher 11 ай бұрын
as far as I know there isn't a display technology that can match OLED when it comes to response times
@DomMcD
@DomMcD 11 ай бұрын
Great video. It's been hard to wrap my head around all the different display technologies, but after watching this video I think I finally get it. Exciting times ahead!
@DanieleGiorgino
@DanieleGiorgino 11 ай бұрын
Tiny high resolution displays are really exciting to me. The one's in Apple's VR headset sound super cool.
@CarlWhittier
@CarlWhittier Ай бұрын
Don't fear failure so much that you refuse to try new things. The saddest summary of life contains three descriptions: could have, might have, and should have.
@ShornDunlevy
@ShornDunlevy 3 ай бұрын
It's worth noting that the earliest LCD displays in which a pixel was made from 3 vertical strips of red, green & blue were leveraged by Microsoft to produce a system called 'Cleartype'. Put simply, as long as you only intend to produce greyscale (as it common for text) then it's possible to introduce what is known as sub-pixel rendering. Since the strips repeat RGBRGBRGB and so on, you can (for example) switch the GB of one pixel on & the R of the pixel to the right of it to on. So instantly you can shift a pixel by 1/3 or 2/3. Sadly LCD screens no longer work that way BUT on platforms like the Gameboy Color, a few developers used this trick to produce much clearer text (hence the name Cleartype).
@Techno4more
@Techno4more 11 ай бұрын
It would be cool if all 3 tech you mentioned reached perfection at the same time. Customers would win! But I rarely find myself wanting more than what I already have. If the tech never improves from now, I think we'd be just fine.
@cengeb
@cengeb 11 ай бұрын
If you are buying it now, it's already obsolete. always the newer improved versions are ready to go, after interest fades, and sales slow, and more importantly patents expire. Patents make mfgs. and creators of the technology, more money than they make actually making a product. Since it gets licensed to all others. ie the CD and CD players and even logos, was Philips big income maker, from all other makers.
@Hugh.G.Rectionx
@Hugh.G.Rectionx 11 ай бұрын
@@cengeb i used to croled on my groled if you know what i mean
@Wipeout186
@Wipeout186 11 ай бұрын
@@cengeb Patents really need to go in many areas and forms, it makes breakthroughs and new research slow and behind because there is no reasons to or it is impossible because of a patent blocking your way.
@cengeb
@cengeb 11 ай бұрын
@@Wipeout186 Patents are the only reason why companies invet stuff, profit. they license the use and make money without having to even make the stuff. that's genius. Example the CD Philips invented it brought Sony into the mix (after Panasonic didn't want in, sony was 2nd choice, fact) Every maker of the discs, the players, even the jewel box it was packaged in was a Philips patent. Every mfg. using the logo even paid Philips a patent fee,copyright fee, royalty. . For the 17 years, then when it was expiring, that's why the SACD was introduced, new patents, but it didn't actually take off, like the original CD did, or DVD, which they also did, anything laser optical, Drug companies, same thing, patents bring in the money, more than making the actual stuff just by yourself. Once patent is off a drug compound, genericsf lood the market, company loses money, people benefit sometimes lower costs, but billions in research, won't be done if can't profit, Capitalism. So when display patents run out, they have to have something new to introduce, otherwise they won't survive. Patents does make new stuff being improved. If you invent something and can't profit from it, why would a company bother?
@motherlandmars5999
@motherlandmars5999 11 ай бұрын
Crustaceans and other animals did not evolve. Among the millions of fossils dug up from the earth, there is not a single intermediate fossil that proves evolution. Several hundreds of millions of years ago, crabs and other animals were in their current form. The theory of evolution is a dogma without any scientific proof. The reasons for defending the theory of evolution are ideological, not scientific. Scientists have discovered that all organs, which evolutionists call obsolete organs, perform important functions. Mutations believed to trigger evolution have been shown to be completely harmful. That is, mutations do not give advantages to living things. On the contrary, it harms. Evolutionists pointed to fossils of the coelacanth fish as evidence of the transition from water to land. However, a living specimen of this fish was found and it was found that the coelacanth fish is currently a fish that lives on the bottom of the ocean. Finally, I would like to mention that evolutionists can't explain how a living organism arose from inanimate matter. Living things did not appear through evolution, but through the Cambrian explosion. This proves the creation. Almighty Allah created all living things. Praise be to Allah Almighty, the Lord of the Worlds!
@realracer0353
@realracer0353 11 ай бұрын
I personally found the comparison with the crab to be both funny but also really good!
@numberl6
@numberl6 11 ай бұрын
i wish you talked more about PenTile subpixel arrangement disadvantages compared to RGB as it remains one of the most problematic areas of OLED, which is especially important for laptop/monitor displays great video otherwise!
@kinzokushirogane1594
@kinzokushirogane1594 11 ай бұрын
Not sure if it is the exact same arrangement but same issues in first generation QD-oled panels by Samsung (see G8 oled). Their second generation had a different "better" layout, see G9 oled@@pickleadaykeepsthedoctoraway
@GewelReal
@GewelReal 11 ай бұрын
It's a problem with Windows. F*ck Microsoft
@maynardburger
@maynardburger 11 ай бұрын
I dont think laptops/monitors OLEDs are using pentile from what I know. That seems to be more prominently seen in AMOLED/smaller OLED types. The problem with laptop/monitor OLED is that they're using WRGB, which is where the text legibility issues are coming from that you're probably thinking of. Using aligned RGB will fix this, but it will require a specific OLED manufacturing process to produce these displays and there needs to be enough displays sold for this market to justify designing and building that manufacturing process(for economy of scale reasons). In the meantime, there's gonna be some coming improvements to WRGB OLED that will specifically help this issue, even if it doesn't fix it totally.
@Ashtarte3D
@Ashtarte3D 11 ай бұрын
Ever since I first got my hands on the PS Vita I fell in love with OLED screens. It's great for stuff like the Vita or Steam Deck but I'm still paranoid about burn-in which has stopped me from pulling the trigger on getting an OLED screen for my primary monitor. Hearing about the advancements coming soon has me excited to finally be able to get my hands on a good OLED monitor with a much longer lifespan.
@alice_agogo
@alice_agogo 11 ай бұрын
my first taste of OLED was in 2017 after buying a used Galaxy S4. then an S5, S6 Edge, etc., Now I'm typing this on a used 2018 Xperia XZ3. My first OLED outside of Samsung
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 11 ай бұрын
I already have something better than an OLED, it's a high end CRT monitor.
@alice_agogo
@alice_agogo 11 ай бұрын
@@saricubra2867 I still have a aoc crt monitor from around 2007. Is that considered high end?
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 11 ай бұрын
@@alice_agogo It depends on the specs. Mine can almost do 1440p and it has better clarity than a 1080p display (smaller phosphors than pixels on a 1080p display), no aliasing.
@SupraSav
@SupraSav 9 ай бұрын
As long as I can view crystal clear picture in 4k@120hz, I am happy. Love my LG CX(OLED). Bought it refurbed 3 years ago and this thing performs as well as I could ask. I use it almost daily for many hours. It asks for pixel refresher probably once every week. Thing runs like a top. 4k@120hz, vivid colours, low latency and I think the sound is decent also... I love it.
@Noobsaucer
@Noobsaucer 11 ай бұрын
The best explainer on display tech I've come across. I find myself leaving "the best on x" comments on this channel a lot
@TechAltar
@TechAltar 11 ай бұрын
Glad to hear! :)
@TheRunpoker
@TheRunpoker 11 ай бұрын
Really great and comprehensive video detailing the different display tech. I really like your metaphors and in depth technical explanations. I just miss that you take into account the problems with puls with modulation dimming (PWM). For many that is a major issue that causes severe eye strain and headaches. Especially Samsung OLEDS and mini LED’s are bad in this regard (and by extensions iPhone screens) I really miss this being taken seriously. For me PWM its an instant dealbreaker. Many people have no idea what causes their heath problems. I think tech channels should inform about this problem and thereby help push the industry to make safer tech.
@ОсликИа-я2ы
@ОсликИа-я2ы 11 ай бұрын
This. Hell, even with Steam Deck barely anyone talks about the fact that both screen options suck hard because of that.
@GetOffMyyLawn
@GetOffMyyLawn 11 ай бұрын
This was a great summary of the confusing world of display technology. My current lcd tv only has something like 60 dimming zones, which works great for letterbox movies, but blooming is obvious in some scenes (star fields, full black backgrounds with moving bright objects etc.), so even if they get to a few thousand dimming zones, I would probably be very happy.
@Slavolko
@Slavolko 11 ай бұрын
We have miniLED monitors currently with more than a thousand zones, so hopefully we'll see miniLED TVs within the next year or two with at least 1000 zones.
@yasirarafat9279
@yasirarafat9279 11 ай бұрын
@@Slavolko when you use it for a long time, does it encounter bugs such as burn-in, ghosting, and screen tearing?
@Slavolko
@Slavolko 11 ай бұрын
@@yasirarafat9279 Those aren't "bugs". Screen tearing doesn't really depend on the display itself. Ghosting is panel-dependent, but it shouldn't be an issue with high-quality miniLED panels. As for burn-in, they shouldn't burn in as easily as OLED displays.
@Randomstuff77654
@Randomstuff77654 6 ай бұрын
This was excellent. I still can't grasp how they're able to perfectly control each tiny pixel at light speed!
@EuropeanEmpireEU
@EuropeanEmpireEU 3 ай бұрын
Did anyone try hexagons yet?
@K4M1K4Z3HD
@K4M1K4Z3HD 3 ай бұрын
Hexagons are the Bestagons!
@genhen
@genhen 2 ай бұрын
solar, friggin, roadways!
@RetroBreak
@RetroBreak 11 ай бұрын
Great video! Really interesting breakdown of modern display tech! Would be interested to see how we got to this point, like early LCD or even how and why Plasma failed to keep popularity in comparison
@obturafotografia247
@obturafotografia247 11 ай бұрын
i have plasmas, and they have way better color than some modern led, and if you get a 1280x720 res one, they are superb. Cant believe he didnt even mention it, not a good analisis at all
@MrDuncl
@MrDuncl 11 ай бұрын
Plasma used far more power than even CRTs. A friend bought one and it had three fans in the top to stop the insides from melting. On the plus side they did have much better contrast than any LCD at the time.
@obturafotografia247
@obturafotografia247 11 ай бұрын
@@MrDuncl that is absurd, parts melting? A friend told you? i have 3 pionners, 3 sony, one panasonic all plasmas. I sold all my lcd, and led tvs, they cant compete in colors, resolution, yes, but not everything is resolution. The sonys are from 2002, not quite good, they have issues, pionner plasmas, are amazing, way better that the 50 inch smasung led my mother in law bought last year. You should get one, image color is amazing.
@MrDuncl
@MrDuncl 11 ай бұрын
@@obturafotografia247 Maybe my choice of language was bad. However, I wasn't exaggerating about the three fans in the top of the Panasonic Plasma TV. I just looked at some power consumption figures from back when Plasmas were being sold and am seeing 400W compared to 120W for the same size LCD.
@mikafoxx2717
@mikafoxx2717 11 ай бұрын
​@@MrDunclyeah, plasmas run hot, especially if they get bright. It's called plasma for a reason. I still use a 60" pioneer Kuro from 2008, and at least in a dark room, it's pretty much as good as a 1920x1080 modern monitor, and a fair bit cheaper than one.
@Davethreshold
@Davethreshold 11 ай бұрын
That was fanTASTIC! Thank you. I find the much older techniques of creating a moving picture fascinating, but these new goals are INSANE! Subscribed! ❤
@mtrivelin
@mtrivelin 11 ай бұрын
Watching this excellent video about LCD vs OLED on my 2007 Panasonic Plasma TV, which remains in excellent condition and has almost no burn marks over the 17 years of its painful life based on many, many films and video games. :)
@crazyjkass
@crazyjkass 11 ай бұрын
LOL my TV is a 2008.
@zarajoe1
@zarajoe1 11 ай бұрын
Massive Panasonic plasma fan. Got a 2009 model and the picture quality is still fantastic
@properjob2311
@properjob2311 11 ай бұрын
me too! all hail the Plasma supremacy
@mtrivelin
@mtrivelin 11 ай бұрын
Salve, plasma defenders!! It is at this moment that LCD and Oled evangelists are horrified by the supposedly dead and buried fans of (always superior) plasma TVs! Yes, we are alive, just like our beloved TV sets.
@zarajoe1
@zarajoe1 11 ай бұрын
It's honestly too bad the technology couldn't stay competitive. Still remember connecting the ps3 to the plasma and loading killzone 2 for the first time and just being blown away by how good it all looked
@MattTheMartian-qc6pr
@MattTheMartian-qc6pr 11 ай бұрын
i like how you describe the way these diffrent types of panels work in great detail while also keeping it simple so i can understand what you are talking about. i like to be able to understand how my computer components actually work and you explain it in the best way. i was randomly reccomended this video on youtube and i am glad that i clicked it. you have earned one more subscriber.
@maxheadrom3088
@maxheadrom3088 11 ай бұрын
2:00 it's not a current, it's applying an electric field. Though a current can be measured while the liquid crystal is polarizing, once the process is over there's no more power consumption - hence the ever lasting battery on old Casio watches. Liquid Crystals are molecules that can be polirized via an electric field - I heard a protein extracted from carrots was once used.
@obturafotografia247
@obturafotografia247 11 ай бұрын
This is not serious, man you missed the plasma displays, i still have a bunch of them, still working, still better color than a lot of modern led displays. Perfect Blacks, amazing color palet, problem they are power thirsty, low res by today standards, and bulky. But still amazing colors. You cant go from CRT to LCD, but rather, CRT to PLASMA to LCD to LED, oled, qled, etc. The whole analisis is wrong from the start.AMOLED or WOLED are way more similar in funcionality to plasmas than to lcd. A missinformed analisis or a biassed one. There you have your dislike sir, not a good analisis at all.
@EHokie
@EHokie 9 ай бұрын
You serious? You can’t even spell analysis and you’re putting a dislike on a well-researched and useful video? Just go away.
@ParallaxFPV
@ParallaxFPV 11 ай бұрын
I think we're still falling short of perfect display tech in several ways not mentioned. Firstly in the days of CRT tvs/monitors you could input any resolution you like and the electron gun would project it perfectly with no scaling, since we moved to LCD/Plasma/OLED displays we've had to upscale to the nearest resolution that divides perfectly into the native resolution or end up with an ugly aliased image. Secondly since both LCD/OLED displays employ a sample and hold rendering method our brain does not distinguish a clear gap between frames so motion clarity is still leaving much to be desired, Black Frame Insertion is definitely helping but at the cost of luminance. CRTs absolutely had their drawbacks and they were retired for good reason, but there are still things they do better than any modern display technology.
@maynardburger
@maynardburger 11 ай бұрын
I mean technically there's still a lot more that theoretically could go into a 'perfect' display. Fully transparent, infinite refresh rate, wirelessly powered, physically configurable aspect ratios, 3d/holographic capabilities, etc. That said, I wouldn't say there's a 'lot' to be left desired in terms of motion clarity of OLED. The fact that sample and hold isn't literally perfect is not necessarily a bad thing as it's not inherently a good thing to be able to more clearly discern gaps between frames.
@kfl611
@kfl611 11 ай бұрын
@@maynardburger Think of what they will have 100 years from now? Probably develop a pill you swallow, to develop an organic computer chip into your brain as you develop before you are born. Instant virtual reality at birth.
@ThunderClawShocktrix
@ThunderClawShocktrix 9 ай бұрын
the down side of adding the black frames though is also more flicker also direct fade from frame to frame is bascilly 'free' temepral antialsiing
@sphigel1
@sphigel1 7 ай бұрын
Your second issue isn’t really a knock on display technology, it’s a result of content with low frame rates. You can make the argument that the perfect content would have such a high frame rate that it would have indistinguishable frames. This content’s motion would display perfectly on OLED TVs without judder. Real life isn’t in 24fps and I think many would argue that a perfect display’s goal should be that it’s indistinguishable from real life. That said, I still have a hard time abandoning 24fps for films.
@leoskiii5860
@leoskiii5860 10 ай бұрын
Personally, I would try LSD. It gives great visual displays.
@leoskiii5860
@leoskiii5860 10 ай бұрын
My comment is criminally underrated 😭🤣
@redfields5070
@redfields5070 5 ай бұрын
Very vibrant and also very hard to control.
@e8root
@e8root Ай бұрын
Do recommend! But more so in early 20's because later your brain is too mature and less eager to focus on silly things which LSD displays are best for displaying.
@gabrielv.4358
@gabrielv.4358 Ай бұрын
I rather get a CRT!
@liquidalloy
@liquidalloy 18 күн бұрын
@6:52 not sure how many know but the OLED panels on iPhones are Samsung panels
@ShayanPey
@ShayanPey 11 ай бұрын
This video was great! The animations and explanations and relating it to crab's evolution were perfect. Well done.
@CyberSystemOverload
@CyberSystemOverload 11 ай бұрын
Brilliant video with effective animations showing how it all works. We all face this tech literally every day but take it all for granted. The absolute wonder of how these things work blows my mind. Maximum respect to the clever people out there who make this happen. Power of Science 💪 So glad I discovered your channel. Please have my sub! Oh and: "LCDs and OLEDS are both kinda false crabs" I can't 😅
@dstinnettmusic
@dstinnettmusic 11 ай бұрын
I just want someone to make CRT displays. It would be a super niche market, basically old school gaming hobbyists and legacy film and TV people. But it’s so hard to do stuff to get around the inherent differences in how old displays and new displays work. I’ve spent hundreds if not thousands trying to do it in a satisfying way, when if I had a really high quality, 1080i or 480p display then I could do a really nice custom setup that actually fits the theme of “I’m playing a Nintendo 64”
@MLWJ1993
@MLWJ1993 11 ай бұрын
You can't, use of heavy metals that're required for CRT's is banned pretty much everywhere.
@CaedenV
@CaedenV 11 ай бұрын
Turns out that led lined glass tubes are really bad for the environment... Who knew? But you can still get used crt TVs and monitors, so if you want one, get it while you can! Just understand how expensive it is to get rid of the things when the time comes. They aren't cheap to get rid of.
@d.r.martin6301
@d.r.martin6301 11 ай бұрын
We still have our Panasonic CRT out on the 4 season porch, picking up over-the-air, serving a DVD player, and an old slow Roku. It's 21 years old now and still works fine at its native low rez. I hate to get rid of it just because it's old tech.
@Warp2090
@Warp2090 Ай бұрын
@@MLWJ1993 Not for CRT's
@Warp2090
@Warp2090 Ай бұрын
@@CaedenV They are only bad for the environment with improper care
@wizardsiras4347
@wizardsiras4347 4 ай бұрын
biggest scam of this market is in lcd they just change the cfl backlight to led backlight And they are selling it by saying that it is a LED TV Those who don't understand should understand that OLED is a real LED TV and rest of all TV is just LCD TV with LED backlight. So lcd tv= led backlight tv, samsung qled tv, and all qled tv, lg nenocell tv etc and acutal led tv = oled tv Basically we are confusing in panels = {IPS} which is lcd panel and enhanced version ips panels is = , QLED and Nanocell And in oled no panels
@bepopxxx
@bepopxxx 10 сағат бұрын
Thid is sooo true, average people usually get scammed
@yokengz
@yokengz 11 ай бұрын
Honestly the covergent evolution crab analogy was genius. Taught me something new even outside the main topic. Brilliant video thank you so much!
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 9 ай бұрын
i knew it will comeback sooner or later
@CrashCarson14
@CrashCarson14 10 ай бұрын
Was a little fast but pretty good in the end. Glad you went towards the Micro LED. would have been cool to know the back story, on how the fluorescent backlight was first. And then how Plasma was before OLED. Just natural steps towards our current market
@nutsachey
@nutsachey 11 ай бұрын
0:24 small detail but i love the connection with using crabs for the displays. i came.
@evander-houting
@evander-houting 3 ай бұрын
You… came?
@bloodbond3
@bloodbond3 11 ай бұрын
I'd love to learn how these displays compare to the technology behind older CRT TV sets.
@Alabaster335
@Alabaster335 11 ай бұрын
There are plenty of videos around on how CRT's work, the Slo Mo Guys have a couple of videos of CRT's in slow motion showing how they draw pictures on the screen. CRT's were the OG in dynamic contrast before OLED.
@robertt9342
@robertt9342 2 ай бұрын
@@Alabaster335plasma existed between the two
@gabrielv.4358
@gabrielv.4358 Ай бұрын
CRT's are best
@carlosk8103
@carlosk8103 11 ай бұрын
Mini-led are part of it but I wouldn't say they are that important... The whole Full array back light tech ( hardware and software) and local dimming is what really changed the game . As you can have a good LCD panel these days even without Mini LED... As long as you have good FALD. The thing Mini LED does give you tho is greater brightness and the ability to get that on smaller thinner devices..
@ritwikreddy5670
@ritwikreddy5670 8 ай бұрын
They're the exact same technology, mini led is just a brand for the fald using tightly packed brighter and smaller led for the backlight and separate zones for the individual leds.
@sage11x
@sage11x 9 ай бұрын
This really is such a fantastic video. I’ve not seen a better primer on display tech anywhere else.
@Patiboke
@Patiboke 16 күн бұрын
Thanks! Clear video explaining all the commercial buzz words.
@desmondbrown5508
@desmondbrown5508 11 ай бұрын
I'd argue one thing that none of these display technologies is trying to solve, unfortunately, is motion clarity. Picture quality is absolutely important. But motion clarity and input response from CRTs SHOULD be also part of this holy grail. Input response is pretty good on OLEDs that support 120hz. Don't know if it matches the analog latency, but it's definitely good. LCDs seem to often fall short (probably because of the sheer amount of processing required to achieve similar quality to OLED). But motion clarity WITHOUT input latency cost is still a massive issue on all display technologies. I'd assume OLEDs with lower power consumption, higher refresh rates, and some kind of ULMB or BFI support AT those higher refresh rates will resolve this. Or if Samsung's LCD replacement technology is able to achieve similar results to OLED with none of the downsides of LCD that could also work. But I think not. The nature of using pixels in the first place creates a sample and hold effect. And if we can't address that while still having sub 16ms latency then I'd argue both issues (motion clarity and input latency) aren't resolved.
@G0A7
@G0A7 11 ай бұрын
From the test ive seen oled is closer to having less ghosting than It should, the pixel response is so fast that sometimes you lose the smooth movement and start noticing something like steps between frames Its noticiable watching low frame content like anime or slow panning shoots in movies, even more if its a environment shoot from high Some oleds have a option in the software to improve this, Idk in other brands but LG calls It soap opera effect, for me is just a blurry mess so i dont use it, but im also a user with a 120hz mobile, monitor and tv so maybe im more nitpicky to this motion blur
@Frozoken
@Frozoken 11 ай бұрын
I'd argue that you haven't researched what micro LEDs are seeing they are literally at least 100x faster than oleds are.
@timramich
@timramich 11 ай бұрын
You can't solve input lag with pixel-based displays. Ever. The lag is always going to be 1 frame length at a minimum. CRTs were literally driven by the signal that was input. If there was processing to be done, it could be done in realtime, because analog circuitry doesn't require memory buffers like digital ones do.
@G0A7
@G0A7 11 ай бұрын
@@timramich You cant resolve input lag period
@timramich
@timramich 11 ай бұрын
@@G0A7 Yeah, that's exactly what I said.
@MegaBlox_YT
@MegaBlox_YT 11 ай бұрын
my old school got to test insta360 befor it was public
@stopfdenpc
@stopfdenpc 11 ай бұрын
What a fantastic video! I thought I knew a lot more than I really did. I wasn't aware that W-OLED doesn't have true rgb LEDs. I also had no clue what quantum dot stands for. I kinda just blindly assumed it was a dumb marketing term.
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 11 ай бұрын
QLED is a dumb marketing term. Nanocell is a dumb marketing term. Liquid Retina Display is a dumb marketing term. Quantum Dots isn't.
@Wobble2007
@Wobble2007 11 ай бұрын
Current QD tech is just a quantum dot treated film layer, true eQD, aka self-emissive QD, that is the real exciting prospect, it has the potential to completely surpass anything we have ever seen and will completely make all other displays obsolete, even the best late generation CRT monitors and Plasma Kuro and Neo displays, but like mLED, eQD is 15-20 years away, Tandem PHOLED is the best we can hope for through the next 10-15 years, they could combine MLA with QD treatment, imagine those MLA lenses treated with quantum-dots on a Tandem-PHOLED display, that would be incredible, especially if it had a true 8K dynamic resolution.
@s9209122222
@s9209122222 10 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the MicroLED+MLA+Quantum Dots, it must be much easier than making individual RGB pixels.
@thatsamazin-
@thatsamazin- 10 ай бұрын
I wanna learn more about Sharps QDEL. 😃
@seiichiii
@seiichiii Ай бұрын
This is a mandatory subscribe after this perfectly laid out explanation. Kudos!
@shmehfleh3115
@shmehfleh3115 11 ай бұрын
I think that OLED's tendency to burn in is a little overstated. What you're generally seeing in those burn-in tests is a worst-case scenario: The TV is left on constantly, showing a relatively static image, like a news network's chiron. OLED sets go through image refresh cycles when they're powered off, to at least try to counteract the problem of image retention. If the set stays on all the time, that process never gets a chance to run. LCDs can have image retention problems, too. Granted it takes longer to show up on one, and it's usually reversible unlike actual OLED burn-in. But not always. I've seen plenty of LCDs with the ghosts of static images permanently stuck on them, including my own computer's monitor. In any case, even inorganic LEDs lose brightness over time, with the blue ones fading first. They tend to fail sooner and more frequently as the LED die is shrunk too, so I would expect micro LED sets to at least have some potential for burn-in and dead pixels just like the others.
@mrlightwriter
@mrlightwriter 11 ай бұрын
The OLED's burn in issue is definitely not overstated. I have an iPhone 14 Pro and I have burn-in. However, it wasn't caused by the always-on display, but rather the icons of Waze (I use GPS for about 1 hour each day).
@lefotografion
@lefotografion 11 ай бұрын
I was worried about burn in, because my dad's Samsung Note phones all started having severe burn in after just 1.5 years. The back-arrow from telegram and the Keyboard were visible everywhere. But then I got my Xiaomi note 10, and 5 years later, I can kinda start to see some random burn in... But it's not permanent. I've noticed right after purchase that every now and then the display would shift it's pixels by one pixel, in a circle, making static images not static anymore and blurring potential burn in lines.
@oo--7714
@oo--7714 11 ай бұрын
Nah, in 2 years my s20 fe burned in. It uses oiled. My cheap a21s I bought years ago still looks fine.
@Ishpreetb264
@Ishpreetb264 11 ай бұрын
​​@@mrlightwriter WOLED and QD - OLED are less prone to burn in than standard RGB OLED used in phones.
@mrlightwriter
@mrlightwriter 11 ай бұрын
@@Ishpreetb264 Wasn't aware of that. Good to know!
@vivisector3489
@vivisector3489 11 ай бұрын
This whole carcinization analogy doesn't make any sense in this context; is it really that surprizing that people are trying to make a good display no matter their manufacturing methods? .. Carcinization is surprizing because it's not intuitive that crustaceans are somehow an optimal form, mainly because we're not that. But with displays we know exactly what we want to accomplish. Good video though, just drop the crab stuff.
@forasago
@forasago 3 ай бұрын
"it's not intuitive that crustaceans are somehow an optimal form, mainly because we're not that" yet.
@tallkaran
@tallkaran 11 ай бұрын
well researched video!
@bmango6186
@bmango6186 9 ай бұрын
Great accent, sound quality and picture quality. Many content creators do not pay as much attention to these things but they really matter. Content is very good also. Nicely done.
@skalimr
@skalimr 11 ай бұрын
It's kinda funny to think that a display just showed me how a display works.
@AudriusN
@AudriusN 7 ай бұрын
6:20 wrong, AMOLED (Active Matrix Organic Light Emitting Diode), passive matrix displays are usually found in small in small screens due to their inefficiency. You should also mention they all (active matrix) are TFT displays.
@gniludio
@gniludio 11 ай бұрын
A very crabby video. Evolving into the perfect video.
@GAG091186
@GAG091186 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if the MiniLED technology could evolve to make the backlights at pixel level sizes, thus making the crab analogy in this video even more true when it comes to LCD displays. A MiniLED display such as this could in many ways rival the OLED technology itself, because of the high brightness and no burn-in of the LCD technology. If that happens, I would seriously consider the MiniLED technology moving forward. Well, as long as MicroLED displays or similar technologies at consumer prices are still not a thing by then.
@alexthampan9007
@alexthampan9007 11 ай бұрын
If it has become pixel size then there is no need for a LCD layer. At that point it would be a Micro LED display.
@Almohebful
@Almohebful 11 ай бұрын
MicroLEDs are better than LEDs when you can make backlights at the pixel level. Why would we bother to put color filters when we can make RGB subpixels individual LEDs at pixel size?
@GAG091186
@GAG091186 11 ай бұрын
MicroLED displays still have the red, green and blue subpixels that are needed for each pixel as far as I know. However, a QD-MicroLED display could be possible if the backlights were pixel sized if I'm not mistaken. Correct me if I'm wrong.
@alexthampan9007
@alexthampan9007 11 ай бұрын
@@GAG091186 QD Micro leds are just blue micro leds with QD color filters currently. Research is going on in developing QD LEDs or Electro luminescent QDs which are essentially true quantum dot LEDs but currently they have issues with stability and have short lifespan.
@alexthampan9007
@alexthampan9007 11 ай бұрын
@@Almohebful No there are uses for having a LED + colour filter approach because it can be scaled easily, is less complex and reduces cost. It is easier to fabricate a Micro LED of one color and apply QD colour filter than fabricating LED for each separate colour at pixel level. What having LEDs of pixel level eliminates is the LCD layer. Technically it will be a Micro LED display.
@yeeteater51
@yeeteater51 Ай бұрын
4:13 france jumpscare
@b10ard
@b10ard 9 ай бұрын
@TechAltar 11:19 Accodding to Chirag Shah from Samsung Display: MLA is a solution to a flaw inherent to WRGB OLED - it is a bottom emission panel, light gets scattered while passing through many layers, and MLA is there to keep it going straight through them, while QD-OLED is top emission, where Quantum Dots are under the antireflective layer, so there's little light lost and nothing to gain from MLA. Turns out it's not magic 60% boost, it's just 40% of power is wasted by old WRGBs. OLED aside, now I'm curious how QDEL is going to develop - can it get bright and big enough to rival MicroLED, and which technology will get affordable first? I just bought a TV, so for the next few years I can just observe the TV market 🍿
@victoriagrayson5082
@victoriagrayson5082 10 ай бұрын
*The billion-dollar race for the perfect display
@elddery
@elddery 10 ай бұрын
It`s truely a masterpiece, you perfectly mixed two different spheres of science to make a great analogy and described engineering theme with a biological evolutional parallel, I`m your fan from now on.
@mix737.
@mix737. 6 ай бұрын
12:12 Correct!
@Goejii
@Goejii 11 ай бұрын
RIP Plasma and CRT
@FranciscoTChavez
@FranciscoTChavez 11 ай бұрын
2:10, yes, turn it all the way in one direction and we do have black (blocked light). But, turn it all the way in the other direction, and we will also have black. To let the most light through, we need the center of the liquid crystal layer to be at 45 degrees from both polarized layers. I don't know about current LCD screens, but in older screens (think black and white), the outer layers would have groves that the crystals would fall into and get forced into alinement, creating polarization. The next part is built on the fact that the crystals are magnetic. The crystals that are between the aligned crystals would get twisted by 45 degrees (which we want when letting light through) by the magnetic fields of the the crystals that are forced into alignment by the panel grooves. We can then cut down the amount of light that's let through by applying magnetic fields moving the middle crystals away from 45 degrees.
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