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@462seb
@462seb 2 ай бұрын
I still believe in DIG. CANT STOP ME
@rylo2795
@rylo2795 2 ай бұрын
Dig: gets eliminated from playoffs. Me: LETS GO DIG. YOU GUYS CAN STILL DO IT!!!
@ChrisCrossed.86
@ChrisCrossed.86 2 ай бұрын
As a 100T fan: There's no way NRG doesn't make a huge comeback. We'll be seeing you again soon, and it's gonna be an amazing match. GL!
@privettadam
@privettadam 2 ай бұрын
Digseasoned
@indigorune
@indigorune 2 ай бұрын
Meteos hit the nail on the head about lane swaps-they are fun when its novel, not so much when its every game. I will say though that TL does lane swaps very methodically-using them for playmaking instead of for avoiding confrontation. So their iteration of swaps is more entertaining than some other teams.
@bowiehichens9560
@bowiehichens9560 2 ай бұрын
i was gonna say the same, kudos to Liquid for fine-tuning their lane swaps to create more pressure and more action!
@bertlorick5359
@bertlorick5359 2 ай бұрын
The lane swap isn't the entertaining part. It's all about how well they execute and control the map from it. It would be even cooler to watch them control the map similarly WHILE seeing Yeon and CoreJJ body their lane then Core going mid to get APA ahead. It's not boring per se. It's just the less exciting option of the two (lane swap vs standard lane).
@indigorune
@indigorune 2 ай бұрын
@@bertlorick5359 they don't lane swap every game...most games, that's exactly what they do. btw, i don't know if you were trying to correct me in the first two sentences (that's how it reads), but you basically just reworded what my original comment said.
@jeremybuckets
@jeremybuckets 2 ай бұрын
21:18 "I saw NRG get destroyed" this was razor sharp and it deserved even more than it got
@ryanhodgson9693
@ryanhodgson9693 2 ай бұрын
I literally choked on my coffee. 10/10
@blankwordss
@blankwordss 2 ай бұрын
"They're not that good. We're better than them for sure!" got me lmfao
@alexmayday007
@alexmayday007 2 ай бұрын
Meteos being a DIG believer made my day haha
@Daijinthetripod
@Daijinthetripod 2 ай бұрын
I want someone to have the same faith in me that Meteos has for DIG LMAO
@UltimacraftedArmy
@UltimacraftedArmy 2 ай бұрын
Definitely agree that the DIG vs 100T series was a surprise, and not in a good way. Like, I thought 100T would win, but not a 3-0. And even then, I thought DIG would at least put up more of a fight. But sadly, the players at Dignitas at the moment just look completely out of it.
@pvince8723
@pvince8723 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, it was kinda shocking. Like even in the interview after Tomo seemed legit surprised at how weak DIG was.
@DBasedAlex
@DBasedAlex 2 ай бұрын
“Communication can be really really helpful, but it can also be really not helpful” Meteos had such a way with words 🥰
@shad0wlynx
@shad0wlynx 2 ай бұрын
41:10 Love this mention about how good at team fighting TL is, especially so quickly after it was stated the opposite on Pros this week
@LargeMcBottoms
@LargeMcBottoms 2 ай бұрын
TL Teamfighting has been some of the best since Spring Playoffs.
@jeremybuckets
@jeremybuckets 2 ай бұрын
Flyquest players have a hardcore cope addiction and TL just lives rent free in their heads. The reality is that, unlike with C9, FLY is worse than TL in *every* facet of the game, but Inspired is neurologically incapable of admitting that publicly.
@distrez
@distrez 2 ай бұрын
@@jeremybucketsdamn my man said it all too well.
@eestileib9980
@eestileib9980 2 ай бұрын
Variety is fun. I'm cool with fearless format and lane swaps. Series that just run the same picks over and over with 1-2 variations and the same strats get boring fast.
@SickMask16
@SickMask16 2 ай бұрын
Don’t let this bring you down Umti 💪 excited for playoffs!
@IAmMurdrface
@IAmMurdrface 2 ай бұрын
I like how the criticism of TL was that they played TOO standard and at times slow but now that they changed it up to use lane swaps, it is considered boring to watch over standard. They just can't win lol. (I also don't enjoy watching lane swaps tbh)
@ragequit1259
@ragequit1259 2 ай бұрын
I hate watching lane swaps, but if it means TL can have international success, then I can look the other way
@LargeMcBottoms
@LargeMcBottoms 2 ай бұрын
Changing lane assignments is a natural progression of the game.
@IAmMurdrface
@IAmMurdrface 2 ай бұрын
@@ragequit1259 Now this is the only correct take.
@IAmMurdrface
@IAmMurdrface 2 ай бұрын
@@LargeMcBottoms This is true. I might be misquoting horribly, but I liked Inspired's opinion during PRO's on lane swaps, that he was curious why league has to be played so predictably (1 person top, 1 mid, 1 jungle, 2 bot). That lane swaps offer an alternative and can at times gain a lead. As you said, change is natural.
@Sleeptastic
@Sleeptastic 2 ай бұрын
@@IAmMurdrface Riot made a conscious design choice to kill lane swapping is the reason.
@imCylo
@imCylo 2 ай бұрын
I'm a very casual watcher for LCS and so far I haven't found lane swaps annoying. I think it's interesting to see the imbalance of sides on the map
@Miata-gp5bp
@Miata-gp5bp 2 ай бұрын
People getting mad at players for using the best strategies to win plainly because it's "boring". Cant fathom at all. Of course everyone in any sport will choose the most advantageous strategy to win.
@User-pu3lc
@User-pu3lc 2 ай бұрын
Lane swaps are the freshest thing to league esports in years. When can we see the double jungle meta???
@SickMask16
@SickMask16 2 ай бұрын
Love the dive man. You guys make my week days better.
@benreichert0
@benreichert0 2 ай бұрын
Regarding's Azael's laneswap argument, IMO laneswaps are absolutely fun to watch, as long as they aren't happening every single game. I would say the exact same thing for standard lane setups. I would be pretty disappointed if Riot "killed" laneswaps like Azael argued for last week. It was definitely a bit too laneswap-favored at MSI, but we've been on standard lanes only for years, I was super hyped when they started happening in spring. I think they have the balance down pretty good atm
@pretentiousfly
@pretentiousfly 2 ай бұрын
You are in the extreme minority here. I think almost everyone despises seeing lane swaps. At least when I see them I know I can leave for 10 min and make myself a snack while still being back before anything interesting happens
@andersphilipsen4352
@andersphilipsen4352 2 ай бұрын
Any chance you can start adding stuff to overlay when talking about it? Like, when you were talking about the whole All-Pro list, then it would be so much easier to follow it, if we could see the rankings
@Kingbonus3
@Kingbonus3 2 ай бұрын
lets goooo im ready for playoffs.
@nyvisalays2475
@nyvisalays2475 2 ай бұрын
Do you think TL would be better if it swapped umti for any of those other junglers? I don't think so. His style is less flashy but he's no less key to their wins.
@diaboles
@diaboles 2 ай бұрын
sometimes you dont need a flashy jungler to be a great team if the other parts of the team are trying to playmake/carry and just want a supportive jungle who can communicate its what made fnatic so good in 2018 with broxah From memory TL looked really good back in the day with Xsmithie doing the same thing? jungle doesnt always need to playmake all the time to help the team win
@CURichard2019
@CURichard2019 2 ай бұрын
I like this comment. I think Umti is versatile in that he can carry a game with his playmaking but can also be a supportive role. He plays carry champs and tank champs, so it doesn't feel like his champ pool is ever pinched and gives TL a strong draft advantage.
@burritogod59
@burritogod59 2 ай бұрын
He is good enough to win LCS but he does become a limiting factor at worlds. If he can only play Sejuani and other tanks at a world class level he becomes a liability.
@paragrin8385
@paragrin8385 2 ай бұрын
I think jensen should be on mages, spica on engage, and why are they prioritizing renekton so heavily for licorice? like poppy is up and a good pick in a lot of those spots. I do agree that isles and zven don't seem on the same page a lot of the time was surprised when they decided to keep isles at the start of the split. I feel like saying NRG wasn't competitive is a little misleading. Great game 2 and game 4 was pretty close til smoulder came online.
@fathead1616
@fathead1616 2 ай бұрын
Meteos: playing from behind is a hard skill to learn Me: idk, I've gotten pretty good with all the practice I get playing from behind 😅
@AdrianO.
@AdrianO. 2 ай бұрын
I can tell Azael has been playing prize picks lol.
@ZaddySeeBot
@ZaddySeeBot 2 ай бұрын
Gambling bad! But higher lower parlays good!
@botbadger
@botbadger 2 ай бұрын
What is prize picks?
@Highwalker420
@Highwalker420 2 ай бұрын
Great episode! Love the dive. Keep it up
@Roxscy
@Roxscy 2 ай бұрын
Every time someone says DIG, it sounds like DEEK. Like, WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY?!?! lollll
@dudeskeela
@dudeskeela 2 ай бұрын
I have been watching LCS and LCK for 11 years. I love lane swaps. Anything that adds complexity and depth to the strategy teams implement should be encouraged. Lane swaps make drafts more interesting. The pressure of a potential swap during draft can act as a psuedo-ban against toplane champs that don’t survive 1v2. Swapping is an additional skill that separates good teams from great teams. There are many reasons TL is the best team in the LCS right now and one of them is the fact that they have honed this skill, unlike many other teams. I liken it to a development within the NFL in 2012-2013. The 49ers started implementing the run-option on nearly every play. If the QB didn’t see a good pass, he would just run the ball. They combined this with fakes to the HB to create a truly unpredictable play pattern. This strategy took them all the way to the Superbowl. By 2014, nearly every team was experimenting with this play style. And to be frank, hearing casters and analysts dog on their own sport for boring them, doesn’t make it less boring for everyone else. In other words, get with the times. Swaps have been here for years and they are not going away. They won’t go away due to balance changes. They won’t go away because of negative sentiment from a vocal minority. They are here to stay because they give great teams an edge over good teams and the truly competitive teams will always seek avenues that push them further ahead of the pack. Stop trying to force change before understanding what you would be changing.
@bm8350
@bm8350 2 ай бұрын
I don’t say this to speak negatively of Blabber, but Blabber > Inspired shocked me for All Pro/MVP discussion. A lot of FlyQuest games felt like the only reason they won was because Inspired dragged the team across the finish line.
@xOscarAx
@xOscarAx 2 ай бұрын
i have a question for yall, do you think team liquids current success is only due to the fact that they are far ahead in the lane swap meta? i feel like thats their strong point but if the game goes back to a more "neutral" state, would they be just as dominant?
@zreed545
@zreed545 2 ай бұрын
Nrg has been gradually looking better ever since the middle of the season, still not looking great (which is a testament to how bad they had looked) but they are looking better in individual games.
@NeusReeves
@NeusReeves 2 ай бұрын
The dive!!!
@mythicalwalrus6291
@mythicalwalrus6291 2 ай бұрын
I’d prefer standard lanes too, but I don’t find this iteration of lane swaps boring personally
@hypersound1224
@hypersound1224 2 ай бұрын
Most impactful top laner?
@bukem01
@bukem01 2 ай бұрын
The 'casual audience dislikes lane swaps' argument is flawed imo because all they ever hear on the broadcast is how lame laneswaps are, and that creates a bias
@matthewbranner9665
@matthewbranner9665 2 ай бұрын
Laneswaps are lame as shit, end of story.
@Jitterzz
@Jitterzz 2 ай бұрын
@@matthewbranner9665Lane swaps are fine, I don’t think it’s as much a problem as they harp on about. Worlds lane swaps will be fun to watch the map movements and rotations.
@WaffleKnight1
@WaffleKnight1 2 ай бұрын
@@matthewbranner9665Why tf would you want to watch the same champs in the same lanes every game?
@Raidizzy
@Raidizzy 2 ай бұрын
I need lane swaps to stay so TL wins worlds. Since they're so good at them
@matthewbranner9665
@matthewbranner9665 2 ай бұрын
@Jitterzz yeah it's so interesting to watch the top laner farm 3 minions and then TP to farm 5 more minions and then stand back watching people hit his tower! Dear God, no, let me watch the extremely skilled professional players interact with each other 1v1. It's like if pro basketball players decided to never pass the ball to the power forwards so those 2 stand at half court and play patty cake for the first quarter. Laneswaps are solved, there's nothing interesting about the map movements anymore.
@AAIIYAAA
@AAIIYAAA 2 ай бұрын
Dig coaching staff even said “patch changes weren’t that big” so like….
@IcyRobin24
@IcyRobin24 2 ай бұрын
So why does the second place team get the perk of an extra day of practice by playing on Sunday (Aug 25) vs the first place team playing first on Saturday? Shouldn't the first place team play last and get the extra day?
@fathead1616
@fathead1616 2 ай бұрын
Isn't the biggest difference in NRG from 2023-2024 that they have a much smaller coaching staff? Maybe Demonte and others made a much bigger difference than we realized.
@purplekey9330
@purplekey9330 2 ай бұрын
I was super excited for Licorice's return. And I hate to say it but he really hasnt been showing up this split. Im hoping he makes a miracle recovery of some sort, but rn at least im not even sure if DIG can beat NRG again (Also Jensen and isles haven't looked great, but I was expecting that ngl...)
@TheGold1knight
@TheGold1knight 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I was really surprised, I thought Jensen and licorice would look good, spica would be okay and zven and isles would look bad, but pretty much the opposite has happened where isles looks okay, zven looks quite good and the other three are playing very badly. Even then though I wouldn't be surprised if zven struggles to find a team in NA next year, which is unfortunate.
@matthewminogue3276
@matthewminogue3276 2 ай бұрын
@@TheGold1knight Zven would find a team if he decides to go back to support.
@pharaohanakaris
@pharaohanakaris 2 ай бұрын
"Dignitas vs NRG, one team MUST win" sent me
@danielstoner3831
@danielstoner3831 2 ай бұрын
What I find boring about Lane swaps is lazy commentary about how boring they are, instead of strategic insights about the choices made.
@OlamDaniel
@OlamDaniel 2 ай бұрын
I don't think im a super hardcore fan or anything like that, I barely play the game and I watch live/vods casually as I don't have any favorites, but I honestly don't mind lane swaps. I dunno if it's cuz I wasn't a viewer when lane swaps were first a thing though I do agree that it'd be more interesting if we were having more variety in the swaps. LIke bots mid or tops mid, or like tops and sup in one lane or somethin (again I dont even play the game so I dunno if those are even options). I also think it's strange that Kobe says he'd be shocked if the support meta changes before worlds. I think that happens quite often. Like, didn't that happen to Sven last year? He was cooking with enchanter supports and then the meta changed to engage and he was suddenly on the backfoot trying to prep that for worlds but didn't have enought time since the season was basically over right?
@theultimatekehop
@theultimatekehop 2 ай бұрын
New website update is trash. I wanted to watch 100T vx Liquid vods and there is no more vods tabs. I had to go in schedule and I saw result of the match while trying to find it. I can no longer follow LCS. This is the end for me if they dont bring back the VODS page
@TheLovelyChris
@TheLovelyChris 2 ай бұрын
Unpopular opinion (I think), I like watching lane swaps because they make the early game more interesting and intricate macro-wise.
@LAQLOL
@LAQLOL 2 ай бұрын
Yeah. Standard lanes aren't always better. Standard lanes can be super stale at times.
@ComaDoseGo
@ComaDoseGo 2 ай бұрын
cant believe we talk about how hard impact is without mentioning when foreign teams triple banned him.
@2tongorilla
@2tongorilla 2 ай бұрын
The sackdown mention from kobe
@lordhawkeye
@lordhawkeye 2 ай бұрын
Dig got cooked cause all 3 laners are weakside players and Spica did not play carry junglers. So who do you play through?! They leaned on experience to beat unprepared players. Better prepared teams or simply skilled that does not make mistakes will roll them.
@mountainoceanproject
@mountainoceanproject 2 ай бұрын
yo meteos def on the za for this one
@witpickles
@witpickles 2 ай бұрын
People slowly starting to realize that Impact is the real goat. Goats don't give up trying mid split because 'spring split doesn't matter'. Does LeBron give up before the season is up? How about Manning or Brady. You think Uzi let up? He played till his wrist gave out. The greatest never let off the gas. That's Impact.
@LargeMcBottoms
@LargeMcBottoms 2 ай бұрын
Facts. Dlift ruined his own reputation with his own words and actions.
@jeremybuckets
@jeremybuckets 2 ай бұрын
I'm supposed to be the franchise player, and we're in here talking about spring split. I mean, listen, we're talking about *spring split*. Not MSI! Not summer playoffs! Not Worlds! We're talking about *spring split*... Not the championships that I go out there and die for, and play every series like it's my last-we're talking about spring split. I mean how silly is that?
@StarlessSky2000
@StarlessSky2000 2 ай бұрын
Meteos completely biased to DOG lol
@QueenBeeBumbleGee
@QueenBeeBumbleGee 2 ай бұрын
I don't think enough people are talking about how season 3 was the original lane swap year and Impact was a god that year too
@gyromite
@gyromite 2 ай бұрын
TL grew Yeon from a lock of Doublelift's hair. Why do you think they call the coach "Spawn"?
@rasmusgarbonzo1411
@rasmusgarbonzo1411 2 ай бұрын
Wish u guys would talk about solo q and the latest patch 😢
@Capitalisticbird
@Capitalisticbird 2 ай бұрын
Meteos just wanted to bully nrg this episode💀
@shinyy5184
@shinyy5184 2 ай бұрын
Meteos is so funny 😭
@matuzaato
@matuzaato 2 ай бұрын
ADD THE VIDEO TO THE PODCAST PLAYLIST thank you
@doloran-
@doloran- 2 ай бұрын
I did not enjoy the meta this year. Balance team could do better.
@MrGoalie2012
@MrGoalie2012 2 ай бұрын
With oriana being back in the meta why arent we seeing the old school twitch submarine surprise ult from invis tactic in pros? Why isn't that a viable pocket combo? Edit based on comments: Also why don't we see some j4 in the meta with picks like Vi being GUARANTEED CC I could see why he wouldn't be more high prior, but with ADCs like Ashe and MF becoming more popular he seems like a good pick.
@battleforgarp
@battleforgarp 2 ай бұрын
Because twitch and ori don't have good escapes twitch will walk in potentially get a double or triple then get one shot right after for not having the proper front line I would say use shaco at least he could kind of go tanky and still do something without getting popped the moment he reveals himself and not to mention you could see ori ball head towards twitch and twitch has a range where he can be seen so would be harder to pull something off like that with him in this current meta pros would definitely see that coming but I do miss that old twitch where even if you were near he would still be invisible that ori twitch meta was insane
@diaperamess
@diaperamess 2 ай бұрын
bc neither twitch nor ori are in the meta. they are decent but def not meta
@MrGoalie2012
@MrGoalie2012 2 ай бұрын
@@battleforgarp ah ok that makes sense cuz i haven't played LOL in like 5 years XD
@YouDizzyLuv
@YouDizzyLuv 2 ай бұрын
God, I hate the idea that lane swaps are super stategic. They are just play tank weather the storm and watch adc get strong. No more fun games for anybody. Like Jayce, Kennen, and other carry tops are useless. This is the whole damn reason K'sante is so strong all the time. Punish teams that lane swap, give me good games. (From a disgruntled bot laner)
@AAIIYAAA
@AAIIYAAA 2 ай бұрын
What I really want on the dice. @meteos comes back with the yellow Gunnar’s. They invite bjerg, meteos ganks him constantly with like pillows and stuff just to disrupt bjerg. Meteos ego twitter rules again
@christianbarrett7077
@christianbarrett7077 2 ай бұрын
Kobe "bjergsen stopped playing a while ago and he still hasnt caught up aww man." Bjergsen stopped play a year ago and Jensen started playing LCS games two years after bjerg sooo......
@carthonasi1446
@carthonasi1446 2 ай бұрын
I don’t think big 3 is accurate. FQ isn’t in the same tier as TL and probably not as c9 imo
@jmanmiller5539
@jmanmiller5539 2 ай бұрын
People defending lane swaps is wild. The popular opinion right now is lane swaps are unfun to watch 🤷‍♂️ anyone saying otherwise just straight up is wrong. It can be interesting, but as of now, it's just the better option too often. They don't just remove things for no reason People defending lane swaps loved taric mid with a yi jg 😂
@Sleeptastic
@Sleeptastic 2 ай бұрын
They weren't here or don't remember what happened when every team figured lane swaps out and stopped blundering needless kills in the early game
@ZaddySeeBot
@ZaddySeeBot 2 ай бұрын
That’s true I do have to abide to popular opinion and common sentiment
@awung11
@awung11 2 ай бұрын
Lol people having minority opinions is now considered wild
@willtollefson4746
@willtollefson4746 2 ай бұрын
It does feel like Lane swap enjoyers want to sound more cultured and tactical like, "Mmm yes, I love the brilliance of simply three man ganking a toplaner who doesn't have a single level" or "Yes, I love watching a toplaner roam like a loss puppy through mid and then to their respective lane to get a single level and 6 cs ahead of their lane assignment." I'd counter them with why not just start the match with the midlaners at level 4, bot lane at level 3 and toplaners at level 1. Because until a laneswap has stopped its basically just afk farming because bot lane doesn't want to do the important part of laning phase
@liarsdice
@liarsdice 2 ай бұрын
Umti winning brings tears to my eyes too. Never stop chasing your dreams ༼ಢ_ಢ༽
@go.4th
@go.4th 2 ай бұрын
the dive has gotten so much better over the years these three have perfected their chemistry, truly a great listen
@davidrogers6987
@davidrogers6987 2 ай бұрын
Spica ain't him - never was. Only played well in his rookie year with the goats of NA. Dude is living off his x9 sleep meme for years now and I can't believe teams keep picking him up.
@matthewminogue3276
@matthewminogue3276 2 ай бұрын
I have to agree with you. There was always a debate between whose the best NA jungler between Blaber and Spica and i've never understood why... Every team he goes too tends to suck and I just don't think hes good.
@nomad6344
@nomad6344 2 ай бұрын
Lanes swaps are not bad when they are not in EVERY! SINGLE! GAME! That makes the game boring. If it happens like once a series its fine imo
@patrikszabo4175
@patrikszabo4175 2 ай бұрын
I'm not trying to be rude but can Meteos think before speaking, that way he could avoid saying "uhmm" and "i dont know" all the time?
@TheFoxStalksHisPrey
@TheFoxStalksHisPrey 2 ай бұрын
21:15 lmfao Meteos
@woodwest11
@woodwest11 2 ай бұрын
The dive is early huh guess I can’t be mad at that. If anyone here hasn’t seen it there’s a Dom, Yamoto and APA podcast on last free nation channel I can’t stand Dom but he did a great job on this podcast highly recommend
@bshr1nk3yk1d
@bshr1nk3yk1d 2 ай бұрын
Just reading the title, lane swaps in the LCS are cringe because it doesn’t even feel like the players know what they’re doing, LCK and LPL lane swaps have such a deep meta that can be beautiful to watch
@BB-pc2xi
@BB-pc2xi 2 ай бұрын
I just don't want to see any Western Jungler on Nidalee any more, please....
@jeremybuckets
@jeremybuckets 2 ай бұрын
25:04 I say this on every episode, but I feel like you guys need to just eat this criticism until next season. Yeah, lane swaps suck to watch. Who cares. Just let TL play it at Worlds. This is the biggest meta advantage NA has had internationally, maybe ever. We almost beat world champs twice with it. Just let them give it a go. Fix it next season. It'll be fine.
@andrewjohnson6544
@andrewjohnson6544 2 ай бұрын
Every time NA has taken lane swaps to worlds they got stomped worse than usual.
@doing63
@doing63 2 ай бұрын
cool
@wesgarnett119
@wesgarnett119 2 ай бұрын
NA lmao. Why do people get so hyped for a region that won't win a game at worlds?
@Bailey-ck1lj
@Bailey-ck1lj 2 ай бұрын
Lane swap fans are the same people who buy feet pics
@Navonoders
@Navonoders 2 ай бұрын
1:15:38 how is this interesting? This is the least interesting All-Pro ever for this exact reason. It’s the literal opposite of interesting, all of it is lol
@0973david
@0973david 2 ай бұрын
Riot kills anything thats not normal unfortunately. They limit creativity
@ImTheOne124
@ImTheOne124 2 ай бұрын
11:30 reminds me of when Fly put jensen on Annie XD
@seluhir8820
@seluhir8820 2 ай бұрын
I think its absurd and pure idiocy to generalize laneswaps. Some lane swaps are fun, others aren't. Just like some standard lanes are fun and some aren't. The problem with yes/no polls is that they kill nuance. Nuance is important.
@eonnephilim852
@eonnephilim852 2 ай бұрын
That cute little thing GEN did with Vayne roaming around the map was so fun
@rc-fk9ui
@rc-fk9ui 2 ай бұрын
This guy Azael could do the whole podcast solo. Man did not pause for 3 whole minutes. Holy
@zeit6614
@zeit6614 2 ай бұрын
desk gotta stop this "lane swap bad" marketing message
@LargeMcBottoms
@LargeMcBottoms 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's annoying as fuck
@andresavila8856
@andresavila8856 2 ай бұрын
It is bad
@mustard9933
@mustard9933 2 ай бұрын
Could just be me but who cares about all-pro? In the best regions its a joke. It seems like pros dont value/respect it at all. Its just a fake regular season talking point that holds no water once playoffs start. Give an MVP and move on.
@JayyHammy
@JayyHammy 2 ай бұрын
You can have first and second team all pro. Having a 3rd is too many
@ZaddySeeBot
@ZaddySeeBot 2 ай бұрын
If they didn’t do it people would complain. Because fans complain about everything. It’s just such a non issue atp
@MelanieRobertson-c6i
@MelanieRobertson-c6i 2 ай бұрын
Martin Donna Jones Edward Lewis Eric
@Flip877
@Flip877 2 ай бұрын
Coaching awards are very boring.
@MamieRichardson-cu6xo
@MamieRichardson-cu6xo 2 ай бұрын
Clark Robert Hernandez Thomas Young Matthew
@SoundwaveSurfing
@SoundwaveSurfing 2 ай бұрын
87th.
@danfx86
@danfx86 2 ай бұрын
Taking shots every time Meteos says “I don’t know”
@Ballanor
@Ballanor 2 ай бұрын
Are you dead yet? hahaha
@TonyLee-fm2fy
@TonyLee-fm2fy 2 ай бұрын
Why doesn’t Blaber play around JoJo Is it an ego thing ? Wouldn’t it be wise to help get JoJo off to good starts ?
@HybridLetsPlay
@HybridLetsPlay 2 ай бұрын
Blaber had the highest jungler to mid proximity in the league this split.
@solomonike
@solomonike 2 ай бұрын
Man I love the dive and the boys but Jesusssss, the title should be The Dive Glazes TL so much they could compete with Krispy Kream Driven by Kia
@Kimpan96
@Kimpan96 2 ай бұрын
Blabber is so overrated, worse carry than Inspired & worse facilitator than Umti.
@tynivinnie
@tynivinnie 2 ай бұрын
not first
@SnoopPogg
@SnoopPogg 2 ай бұрын
I think lane swaps once a twice a split are fine and interesting, but it being in like half of games is way too much
@LargeMcBottoms
@LargeMcBottoms 2 ай бұрын
It's cope and weird to see people belittle TL figuring out how to access and utilize resources better than other teams. You all as analysts cannot be this bullheaded about the base concepts of League of Legends. It's kinda getting on my nerves at this point. I think you all need to start back at square one of what league of legends is, and stop thinking the game HAS to be "standard" of any sense. The game is about allocation of resources. The 3 most basic of them being: EXP, Gold, and Time. The next thing you have is how do you access those resources? Time goes by as the game happens, everything you do "cost" time. EXP is accessed by being at certain locations as certain actions happen (Enemy dies near you, you kill a ward, kill jungle monsters, etc). Gold is accessed by actively dealing the final damage to reduce an enemy/neutral unit to 0HP, as well as passively as the game goes on. The goal of each team should therefore be to look at both teams of 5 champions and understand how each team wants to allocate those resources and at what times during the match will those champions be strong, if given those resources. After understanding that, the next step a team that wants to win should do is they should determine how both (1.) they will safely and securely reach their gold/exp breakpoints, and utilize them to gain more strength to pressure more of the map, while (2.) also thinking about how to mitigate the perceived opposing strategy. Ideally, one would come up with a strategy that achieves both, in a consistent and convincing fashion. Therefore, lvl 1, it would behoove a team that understands this to put their thumb on the scale to influence the snowball of those advantages as early as possible. What resources do you have to do that? Well, the 5 individual champions themselves and where you place them on the map! For years, lazy thought was that you access all lanes at once and get exp as such with equal access. If one team has stronger champions at this avenue, why would one let them have access to this advantage? The next step in thought, though, is you don't let someone hit you with skillshots, so why should you let someone get advantage over you in an unfavorable lane matchup? Asking you to look at the game and explain why things are "good" and "bad" with these frameworks doesn't feel like it's a big ask. I'm not lookin' at our boi CaptainFlowers to be the analytical mastermind (We stan Cap in this house: Great Lakes Represent!). My small callout is that the narrative that is built by the cast is done because you all don't want to have to talk about the game or think about it that granularly (Sans Emily, our Queen of Lane Assignments).
@Sleeptastic
@Sleeptastic 2 ай бұрын
Problem is your entire essay can be countered by "it's boring to watch for the average viewer" which is exactly why all the analysts hate lane swaps. I mean just look at how much you had to write to do a minimal explanation of knowledge needed to enjoy lane swaps
@JaniceFowler-x9d
@JaniceFowler-x9d 2 ай бұрын
Young Richard Miller Jennifer White Charles
@ovs4744
@ovs4744 2 ай бұрын
Why does Azael always speak for the audience. People much rather watch laneswaps than just the same boring lane matchups following the imaginary laning rule.
@ProtatoPvP
@ProtatoPvP 2 ай бұрын
also it is a option too. It literally doesnt even happen every game. This guy having a hate bone for lane swap for some reason. We literally watching lane match up for 13+ years
@MattM284
@MattM284 2 ай бұрын
all pro is a waste of time
@JosePerez-w1m
@JosePerez-w1m 2 ай бұрын
Thomas Charles White Matthew Davis Susan
@jeganaut
@jeganaut 2 ай бұрын
First
@victorsosa8201
@victorsosa8201 2 ай бұрын
Fourth!
@christophermauro-barias7451
@christophermauro-barias7451 2 ай бұрын
yes lane swaps are cringe Emily needs to stop thinking they are good for the game
@DevanMccallister
@DevanMccallister 2 ай бұрын
Azeil looks like an alien lol
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