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[@Daniel-sl5vm]

Cant believe flowers missed the Dignatas obvious pun," they are going to either shoot for the moon or DIG themselves into the dirt" thats a freebie you can take to casting

[@ShopifyRebellion]

D Tier? Challenge Accepted 🧐

[@C9LoL]

Acceptable until we prove ourselves to the best

[@IncrediblyBoring]

Sad cope

[@motnurky7055]

Looking forward to what the new roster can cook up especially now that Fudge has finally been dug out like a tick

[@travisalden7236]

Choking year after year internationally while talking smack all year.... yeah. I have them lower on my list.

[@elephantisland695]

@@travisalden7236Nobody cares about your list Travis

[@travisalden7236]

@@elephantisland695 to think I could upset someone so easily by sharing my opinion of C9 and their choking record.

[@hwwof]

Great video! Really excited to see you casting the eastern leagues as well! It's humbling to see the GOAT caster continuing to refine his craft. Faker of casting? Constructive feedback: 1)audio felt a bit, hollow? Didn't really hear/feel the same oomf that I'm used to hearing from you when it's being mixed by LCS. Not sure if it was a mic, mic distance, or mixing thing. Still great quality tho! 2)The video side by side was a little distracting since it had to be compressed so much. Maybe when playing the video transition to a talking head superimposed on the gameplay? I do prefer seeing you vs audio overlay only Excited to see what's next. Thank you for all the heart and soul you pour into the world 😊

[@simplysaso]

Hey flowers just found your content. I’m sorry I didn’t find it earlier it’s awesome! Backtracked and liked your vids, keep going ❤️❤️ after dash and phreak leaving you feel like the LCS voice now 😫

[@KidDaAce]

Honestly like tiers more than just general placements of teams because its never that simple. Pretty good list with 3-6 being the ones with the most questions great video.

[@colby009able]

IMT coach pickup is huge, love that guy

[@natedoggett9722]

love your content flowers! hoping C9 can bounce back and can't wait to hear you cast again!

[@QC336]

Great content Captain. Keep up the good work promoting the LCS, i think your rankings were a great introduction for someone who hasen't followed the scene as closely as I could have been haha.

[@User-pu3lc]

Would love to get an LCK “weekly recap” where you talk through the outcomes of the week and how that progresses the narrative of the LCK season. Even in a more casual production format like this video would be amazing.

[@travisalden7236]

Honestly, Last 6 years or so, the narrative for C9 has been, "omg look at this super team, best ever in NA" and every year they get whooped. NRG last year and TL this year are so much better stories than, "let's see what C9 money gets us this year"

[@indigorune]

Cant wait for some captain flowers casting!!

[@jackwills1329]

The only tier list I need. Thank you king 👑

[@yoyo11122]

my man! the best of the best. Thanks for the list, I kinda agree on your tiers, let's hope for a great split and GO C9 !!

[@sdfg-gj9to]

Yes please and thank you. Btw pull some strings and get skarner a peacock skin, idk why it just sounds like a good idea with all of the tails

[@pn9043]

I can't believe I wasn't already subscribed. Love the tier list. Can't wait for new videos!!

[@tatesteel1]

Kt vs Dplus and T1 v GenG this coming weekend would be crazy for some Captn casting

[@mrbigstuphvt]

...You DO realize he's casting LCS this weekend, right?

[@alextintyrn291]

I think the thing I disagree with isn't even where you put teams, it's the fact that half the league is B tier but we've seen the LCS have "the soup" so many times I wouldn't be surprised if records ended up looking like this by the end of the season. However, quibbling about team placements is fun so here we go. Here's my list and thoughts: S Tier: TL A Tier: C9 B Tier: NRG, DIG C Tier: 100, FLY D Tier: SR, IMT NRG might be the hardest to predict given how badly they ended the season but I think out of all of the teams in B tier they are the ones with potential to win the split depending on how the offseason went for them. I personally would have put them at the top of B. DIG has more questions to answer for me than NRG does, but if the players play up to the level we know they can reach, this team is a bare minimum 4th. This team is really cool though and I'm excited to watch them play. I think 100 is a really cool team too but I'm skeptical on how they're going to perform in a Bo3 regular season. Maybe they overperform again but I think they have some major hurdles to clear and I don't see them winning the split without their bot lane in particular leveling up. I also think they need a support who is stronger at leading the team than Eyla. C tier seems like the perfect place for a team like that. FLY being this low is my spicy pick, but I have an argument to back it up: they dropped the wrong player. I think Jensen's play is more valuable to that team than Inspired, I think replacing him is harder than replacing Inspired would be, and I don't see how you can have a healthy team environment when a player airs the team's dirty laundry out publicly and the org sides with him over the player he was bashing. I would be shocked if they made top 4, let alone Finals again. It would take Quad being the next coming of Bjergsen to make it back imo. I think SR is slightly stronger than IMT. Unlike IMT they didn't start the season with their whole roster, they still finished higher in spite of that, and they actually tried to upgrade their roster during the offseason to boot. I don't think this ultimately matters though, both still likely miss the playoffs.

[@BlackEcology]

Flowers reminds me of a young Mark Metcalf (The Maestro on Seinfeld / Master on Buffy... but really looks like the younger Doug Neidermeyer character on Animal House).

[@EthanHMoore]

Good tier list, really hope IMT can punch up, would really create some good storylines

[@mbrown7325]

Main changes, dig to A tier. NRG to F tier for motivation. SR D tier with immortals. I think it’s pretty hard to argue a meaningful difference between the two.

[@iskander0725]

Hey Flowers, you were pretty much the only reason I stuck to watching pro league avidly from about 2019 onward. While the play and players have since taken on that responsibility of keeping me here watching pro league, I get far too excited when I catch a Flowers cast week to week. As a long time E-sports Watcher, for my money, nobody pulled me into their game like you did.

[@rebornthanos]

Flowers good video, I may struggle to watch lcs now a days but I clicked on this video simply because I've always enjoyed your work. I have another video Idea that a person in my position would be interested in though I don't know how far down the iceburg you could go since you work for riot and that is what has caused the downfall of league In North America, and what would it take for a second wind to happen my list would look a little something like this. The downfall 1) By far for me what really stunted the entire league, the entire pipeline of talent, and basically any players hopes of playing in the league was franchising and the absolute disaster that followed. 2)Team Management at the absolute worst possible scale you could imagine. Players getting into the league both lcs and academy that did not deserve to be there at all and the players with superior skill not even having the opportunity to keep the bottom half of the league in check and trying to win. Also I can not imagine how many hundreds of millions of dollars these teams put in to turn gold into a pile of dirt. 3)The broadcast situation, from a fans perspective the wrong talent for a period of time was being put in situations that did not seem to work, content ideas just did not feel like they were hitting for a period of time, and it just felt like there had to be some horrendous level decision making that we couldn't see since we have nearly always had the overall top casters or at minimum top two and the product that was coming out was just simply not it. I actually noticed a pretty decent improvement in this in recent times which is sad since it feels like when this got fixed other issues were dragging the league down even harder. 4)The players period. Doublelift, bjergson, aphro, sneaky, meteos, imaqtpie, iwd. You get the idea these players are north american league of legends to me. If I had the option to replace 80% of the whole league with one of these players I would do it. Or If they took two team slots and just remade a couple of the old teams I would be overjoyed in fact it may bring me back instantly. But the players now are not interesting at all. They did nothing to build their brand for years not to mention you can just visibly watch their play or dimeanor and just tell that this is a job to them and not a passion. Doublelift may have never won worlds, but at least you always felt like there was the smallest chance a miracle could happen, and that chance was there because he cared. Players now do not and I think fans felt that for a long time so they left because what is interesting about watching a check collector. 5)I was the biggest lcs and league content watcher you could imagine. (summoning insight 1-8 hours long with 400 episodes I listened to every single one of them). But it just doesn't feel like it's for me anymore but in reality I think the league itself is just making it not for everyone at this point, because why would new fans come watch our region where people stopped trying to win or care years ago and have no personality either, I would bet money there isnt a single league players channel that is higher than doublelift. I say that because I've never once cared to go see or look at one. The way back while I don't think it's impossible I would say it's about as close to impossible as you can get. But here is what I would say is the strengths and ways back to growth 1) Franchising has to be dissolved in its entirety it has not and will not work with the people at the helm, the people they hire, and the people those people hire. I want doublelift, sneaky, and meteos to get board one day and come kick immortals out of the league. Which would be the only thing of interest immortals was apart of since noah winston, and would probably have more viewership then any final. 2) Our caster talent has never once in the history of the entire game not been the best of the best. Korea had Money, Doa, papa smithy as big standouts along with a few other notables but at most a couple decent talent at a time, china has really been meh if not poor for it's entirety which is the main reason I watch it the least, Europe has killed it in this department just to catch up to the caster level we have always had which now its hand in hand. We could easily pull people in this regard. 3)I think the broadcast needs to find something that sticks to create some moments that people can reference outside of just watching it but the issue is they have to find a way to create content around a league zero people are hyped about which is very hard. But if they even just went with the flow of fans and just started putting all of the teams pros and the league on blast I honestly think that would resonate with fans and give them a reason to watch since it would basically be what the fans have felt for years. 4)Every single player that is clearly not putting in effort to win games, doing something interesting, or adding any sort of value to the league needs to be black listed there needs to be a serious purge in this regard. (In fact there might have been part of one a few years back but bring back the people creating intrigue). 5)Someone has to win something period. I remember when fans were upset with a 3-3 performance when a team didn't make it out of groups. Now we have teams not even making it to groups and it's just expected. Without this I don't think the region ever gains notoriety again. 6) Those players I mentioned above that provide intrigue to the league should have a pass to come take any single lcs players spot when they chose to do so. Imaqtpie going 0-20 would do more for this league in terms of entertainment value then all ten players at that roll combined. 7) DId I say ten I meant eight, which needs to not be the case. Bump it to twelve teams and bring people of interest into the league, even if bjerg is washed it would at least add some sort of credibility to these new players names to see them beat him. Idk if theres a way back for the lcs but the start of that video when you said eight teams made me want to write this tangent for some reason and towards the end I started rambling do to being tired but if you actually read this know I mean well by it and would like to hear some more thoughts on the topic or if my points here were completely incorrect. Keep up the good work Mr. Flowers, just remember if there was a hall of fame for casters even at your young age everyone knows you would be going straight in it. Have a nice day

[@mrdawizard2045]

I just want to play one game... ONE GAME with CaptainFlowers. Best caster ever!

[@Syndratic]

why does this channel feel like some kid(editor) is trying to make his talented dad(flowerz) famous on the internet byy trying his best to make his wacky personality fit on the internet and look cool and hip lol i love it

[@devvision7613]

Love Flowers content lol i didn’t even know he had a channel!

[@mcguigan97]

The MAN speaks! Subbed!

[@saephon3988]

Based and correct tier list. All in all, I just hope MSI was not the peak we see from TL. I would be incredibly happy if they can continue their trajectory into Worlds, plus a resurgence from C9 led by Reapered. Maybe even through DIG or NRG in there, since both teams now sport rosters we *know* are capable.

[@cedrichofstetter4057]

Yeon is gonna be summer MVP

[@noct-XIII]

This is some good ass content! Thanks Capt Flowers!

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

Feels good seeing TL at the top again

[@Rivalryxx]

Thanks for the videos Flowers, been watching them all

[@bullseyeproductions9016]

Pretty good list. I would put 100 and NRG in C but I agree with the rest

[@nyvisalays2475]

I wonder if we aren't falling for the C9 trap twice in a row. I don't think there's any reason to expect they've fixed their issues. Glad to see some 100T love though, they definitely overperformed expectations last split.

[@juliancohen9356]

Yayyy!!! Captain flowers!

[@Djfjfjrhhrjrhrhfj]

S Tier = 1. TL 2. C9 A Tier - 3. FLY B Tier = 4. NRG 5. DIG C Tier = 6. IMT 7. 100T 8. SR C9 will probably end up at 1 if everything clicks, but I'm leaving them at 2 for now. FLY struggled at MSI, but that is a tournament with world class Asian teams... they are still one of the best LCS teams until proven otherwise. NRG should bounce back a bit, not back to championship levels, but middle of the pack is on the table. IMT finished strong in Spring, so don't write them off. 100T was the worst team in the league by Spring playoffs, not sure what magically changed to put them back in the top 3.

[@BurnDem101]

He didn't "magically" rank 100T top 3. 3,4,5, and 6 are all tied in the same position. That's how tier lists work 😆

[@Djfjfjrhhrjrhrhfj]

@@BurnDem101 Yes, but he has 100T ahead of those team in that tier which means he thinks they're slightly better.... They shouldn't be same tier to begin with. My comment is disagreeing with his ranks, so quoting his ranks doesn't do anything since I'm saying they're bad rankings.

[@333Yakuta]

Defiantly more LPL content would be nice since it’s not as popular (in English live casting that is)

[@shikyojojo2521]

looking forward to seeing sniper vs thanatos

[@susiekim7648]

LOVE U FLOWERS

[@Angelfyre.]

Let’s go Liquid, I’ve been waiting for them to win LCS for years now

[@yesssirr987]

give me all the content cap!! also, i know you must be a rap fan, who are some of your favorite MCs? Love from MD! keep up the good work

[@GenericName1450]

I think 100T could have gone into A tier behind C9. Other than that, I can't disagree with this list. Love you Flowers!

[@Tyler-ri8fu]

Fucking love budget Tony Hinchcliffe

[@CB38096]

I’m excited to see if TL take their MSI experience and just gap the rest of the teams and become the NA G2 where they barely have regional competition

[@markosiljegovic6838]

yooo why is the opening pose cold as fk 😆

[@lukeskywalker5291]

When Dhokla rick rolls Thanatos on the rift and Palafox yeehaws his way through the competition and NRG secures first place and a spot back at Worlds, you'll see Mr. Skarner Man 😤

[@LargeMcBottoms]

Lol 6:40 mentioning Carlos for G2 when he got kicked out. G2 hit so hard, former owners feeling it 🤣🤣

[@zreed545]

He still owns a controlling interest in g2, he just isn't the ceo anymore.

[@ShmeepShmopp]

Welcome back people with notifications on lol

[@TheRoonie222]

Jokes on you, I just have nothing to do so I keep refreshing KZbin.

[@hurtmei6420]

​@@TheRoonie222Jokes on you, I just got lucky.

[@nomismg]

Flyquest will crumble for sure

[@sentikan9881]

good takes, its hard to tell how good really any of these teams will be, i think TL will be consistent and c9 should be able to stay high in standings based on player skill alone unless they grief again, all of B tier is a coinflip. i would actually put NRG in C tier. i think that's where they always belonged NA just collapsed in playoffs and G2 collapsed at worlds.

[@_OldGrandpa]

Absolutely ridiculous. Great job, keep it up.

[@nickbooth2861]

Would love to see a VOD upload of the LCK/LPL streams in addition to the highlights. I don't get to watch those leagues either and would love to get the whole series start to end with you.

[@Stwinky]

I respect that scuffed aspect ratio

[@WiddlPeppuwu-sx3rx]

Captain flowers is the goat

[@flyingrock2682]

i love this new tall form content

[@elijahcherweznik3505]

wait.. is this legit Captain Flowers's channel? How TF does he only have 6k subs?

[@RitchieLeong]

Five man sleep > on TSM The Ekko PTSD > against TSM Ezreal caught out > on TSM I see where this is going

[@mattw4190]

1. TL 2. C9 3. DIG 4. FQ 5. 100T 6. NRG 7. SR 8. IMT

[@cosmicyoumomsfavoritgamer8471]

I think 100t collapse in play offs was due to how young their roster is and not having any experience in bo3 situations less than the fact they are incapable of playing well in them i think they should be moved up because how well they played last split especially being the 4 place team that has good vibes in the org unlike fly quest where they publicly shit on each other i think 100t should be beside c9 in A cuz bot fell short but 1 was an experienced super team thats getting the benefit of the doubt over the young up and coming team that over achieved there gots to be some balance there

[@marksaum8904]

Weird that you didn't mention FLY getting Mithy, when that might be a bigger deal than Quad

[@seangill2522]

Flowers is a national treasure

[@zachwilson8956]

The soap box must be 12"-14" high for flowers to be as tall as a 72" interior door frame. 😅

[@xiaomixu]

Would love to see the split screen without distortion. I like the edits but the distortion makes it look so poorly produced sorry

[@wz0413]

i think T1 vs GEN Sunday the 16th would be a banger

[@davidrogers6987]

I don't hate trees and saving the earth... but boy do I wanna see FlyQuest eat some shit this summer. TL/C9/NRG Lessgo!

[@icykangaroo]

Probably just drop 100t to C and this list would be perfect to start the season off.

[@timobrien4190]

Any LPL NIP games ❤

[@justinvonmoss6925]

Putting half the league in the same tier is a coward move.

[@sennit]

IMT over SR on skrim bucks and Inero is crazy but i respect the convistion all the same. Its still IMT, who are basically curse to being the perpetually bottom of the league.

[@connornguyen4336]

Captain Flowers is the best thing to come out of NA in the entire history of the region. Joke region. Love you Flowers

[@samwilliams0901]

Don’t, you’ll trigger them. They are still pretending Bjergsen is American.

[@vincentcloud]

DIG #1, calling it now

[@hamburgerlover9825]

I really really doubt this dignitas roster is gonna work. And I like all the players. I just don’t really think the team has any identity other than “good players that didn’t get signed”. Like yeah, Jensen, Licorice, and Zven have all played together before but those players didn’t really have synergy with each other when they played. And as much as I like spica he just came off of a shit show split where a bunch of veterans couldn’t get on the same page. Maybe Spica and Licorice will run topside by playing carries. But when I look at these players as a team of 5 I think that they’re all very solid players that know the game well, but are most useful when they’re facilitating a big carry player with how consistent their play is. I look at this roster and imagine them all going even in lane but nothing really happening. They don’t have a player who is willing to go in on a crazy play. In all likelihood they’re going to probably play slow and lose.

[@squeakyevil4]

lck cast highlights sounds dope

[@jonart8433]

Either way C. FLOWERS is going 3-0 in every prediction in playoffs

[@rondeauhall2145]

biiiiiiig diig

[@KevinIsCooleo]

T1 geng

[@skrattaoppar9753]

I don't understand the business of IgNar, he keeps shuffling teams and keeps joining unproven teams, idk if he wants to be the ultimate underdog or just wants the cash. NRG isn't successful anymore cuz IgNar didn't want to further improve the synergy with the team

[@Vuietnam]

Pog

[@ReaverMoggy]

Lowkey a Dignitas fan this split.

[@biinju]

love the drinking content

[@ink2467]

Flquest is still S or at least A, Dignitas is probably C, no more than B

[@karnliberated2030]

Here's what I think: Captain Flowers content is amazing. You want a disagreement? 100T jumped the shark before their best-of series with C9 in spring, and I think 100T will finish 6th or 7th. There ya go. Thanks for the content Cap, keep it coming.

[@logikcomplex]

is it just me.. or the video displaying off like that looks weird as fk?? and takes away from the whole video

[@Gatorsssssss1]

Flyquest b tier whackedy wack

[@darbisonsrus8072]

Doesn’t matter LCS is dead come 2025

[@afallingpebble9310]

Dignatas = C9 yellow

[@BrendanZanitCoen]

I HAD NO IDEA U HAD A KZbin CHANNEL WTF

[@spike2439]

FlyQuest? More like FlyQuestions ammirite? C9 is definitely S Tier, no A Tier, no B Tier, no S Tier, no D Tier, No S Tier

[@riseagainstthemachine6079]

Idk if you are allowd in formats by thorin/monte, but this really made me want you at one of their formats!

[@tailee7020]

C9 is B Tier

[@LahJoshy]

green-screen yourself in front of the clips

[@jordantompkins5584]

immortals too high

[@josephmuir4189]

Dogshit9 was never good

[@philliprust6712]

just wanted the tier list to look like a weaner didn't you

[@shokill]

Pretty vanilla take I'd say.

[@MattM284]

vanilla is the best flavor tho

[@Kosmisch1987]

Bring back 10 team :(

[@Jeff_Saber]

Donate $50M to the LCS and you'll get your wish :D

[@Kosmisch1987]

@@Jeff_Saber Dang I only have 48M :(

[@samwilliams0901]

The league is already a joke, going back to 10 teams would make it even worse.

[@piotrszostakowski416]

This tierlist is a joke. C9 is S for sure, followed by FLY and TL in A. Then you have DIG, NRG, and 100 in B. I don't see any reason in ranking IMT and SR. They are just out of playoffs.

[@1soar818]

cant even call liquid an NA team its just koreans and APA playing in lcs

[@charredmars2659]

Yeon is American.

[@alextintyrn291]

Impact's been here for a decade and there isn't a player more invested in NA success than Core right now. That team is NA as hell.

[@CB38096]

EU fan spotted, maybe even a FNC fan 😂

[@1soar818]

@@alextintyrn291 impact and core are literally just korean imports stealing paychecks with minimal effort. plus umti. win with NA players or its fake

[@1soar818]

@booz-lw5fd i just didn't include him cause no one cares about yeon yeah 2 americans and 2 world champion LCK players and LCK jungler import

[@Kamil-c4b]

Your region is so damn bad :) How many international trophies does LCS have?

[@ianschwalbe2161]

Why are you watching the goat casters videos then

[@samwilliams0901]

@@ianschwalbe2161 answer the question though

[@ianschwalbe2161]

Admit it, you have a boner for seeing other people's failures cause you're insecure. Go watch a caster from your region guy

[@Kaelthas111090]

NA teams may not be internationaly the greatest, but NA for sure has the bestest caster. Riot finally aknowledges that and as a tribute we see skarner pick or ban in every game, nice, I expect You in hall of legends + 1000S florist Skarner skin, cheers!