LD4 Tier List 2024 Where to Use These Units?! - Summoners War

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[@Seiishizo]

Missing units: Isillen (dark elf ranger) Decent unit in siege off, 4th tier.

[@Arthrexx]

Isillen is actually pretty good counter to Dark Asura. Pair her with the rat and Triana and just see dots fly everywhere. Basically hard counters one of the more common nat 4* bases. You don't hit those, so I can see why the placement :D Light Dryad is also a good counter for Dark Tomoe. Max skilled her shield completely negates the damage. Dark Poison guy is also really strong. Seen Aftermath players use him regularly in Siege.

[@arturpotalov6022]

Didn't you miss gladiatrix?

[@Kyduk]

TBH you should really look into the Light Dokkaebi Princess. She's basically a similar Molly, but a bit more useful and stronger (although you lose the potential to strip on S1)

[@Eiszahn]

Interesting list, with me playing an LD only account i cant fully agree with your list but i gues that just comes from me not beeing able to use the other 3 elements.

[@exctn]

@@Kyduk Not even close, glancing passive is really strong it can even screw up Nephthys' passive. I would only look twice when cleaving with my tiana/nephthys combo IF the defense have Molly/Nyx.

[@TheDupeDavec]

My guy doing gods work here and in general! Love your videos mate, keep em coming!

[@nivikoseven]

Great point of reference for all the ones I've summoned so far!

[@darkphase7799]

I love Dusky. He is fun to use randomly when people don't remember what he does and he also hits pretty hard.

[@Herrinm.]

what's some Chris offences and what do you use them into

[@DarkMewtwo94]

this tier list was SO helpful and needed with the 10 year anniversary scrolls! thank you sir and very well done and great job! keep up the amazing work seii!!

[@tangostacker4745]

i thought this has an hoh tierlist for a second and got soooo happy when i saw icarus thought i missed the most insane hoh

[@victordominguez9297]

Light blacksmith is actually great, if you have her you should try some Odin or Federica teams, I like to use Laima and her together, nice tier and thanks for the vid!

[@Lp0tr33]

I got Lucia the light cyborg. Haven't tried her yet, not sure if she should be a super tank, or some hybrid like the dragon knights.

[@LieyLiey]

Light robo is basically an ld4 poseidon for arena offense, good dmg and counters nemesis, he lets u build alicia/pungbaek on full dmg for tiana/galleon

[@LieyLiey]

Also the self destruct animations looks really cool

[@iiShqdow]

Yeah and its irresistible which is amazing

[@firentialombardi906]

He's so fun to use too lol. Die, revive, Cooldown Reset, Die again.

[@durant8006]

They keep nerfing ld4 and buffing ld5 to the point it's not that excited to pull for ld4 unless it's dark string master

[@potatomatop9326]

martina and deborah are even better than other ld5s bro

[@skipaxsmiley222]

Is she good?just got her recently

[@durant8006]

@@skipaxsmiley222 she is now easily the best ld4 right now

[@skipaxsmiley222]

@@durant8006 damm lucky me

[@durant8006]

@@potatomatop9326 Deborah only good for ppl who have alot of crystal to farm dungeon and Martina can be replaced with other units

[@eddy796]

There is also a weird chamie build of high Speed/Hp and stacking additional damage artifacts to use its stacks. A fun build but definitely outclassed

[@Russianstundard]

thanks for making this!

[@jan-g5269]

thank you so much for the video :3

[@Steven-jj4oo]

I have lots of ld archers but never used lol good to see this coz i keep using my 3 martinas every siege

[@dahhl777]

I think felleria is super underrated. Free win vs debuff heavy siege def. And she's great for early game r5 she can solo cleanse one team

[@GFRetroSenpaix]

U get it

[@tanpham7411]

I use her in RTA as well against heavy cc units like Rica or Fire Druid.

[@sammclaughlin6748]

It's actually wild how useful she is, and how many people just ignore her. She's been underrated for *years*, and without any of the nonsensical buffs/nerfs the rest of the ld4 roster has gotten

[@mehirrahmansumon6870]

Which one is felleria?

[@mehirrahmansumon6870]

​@sammclaughlihelp bron6748

[@Francorocco]

how do you build the light cookie for subjugation? with hp or just ignore the hp scaling and focus on atk? i got one but have no clue how to rune for that content

[@Seiishizo]

mainly just dmg. 100 cr some speed. bit tanky. use some leftover fatal blades that you probably have from farming giants. all of my cookies for subjugation are fatal something. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4GZimaqhdV7m9E

[@Francorocco]

@@Seiishizo but like, his skills have an ho scaling, should i ignore this and just put atk anyway?

[@MegaKenny9]

@@Francoroccohe doesn’t have any hp scaling. It’s only if his hp drops under 50% that his s2 shuts off. So atk is the way to go

[@Francorocco]

@@MegaKenny9 ty

[@jackjunior5000]

YOOO this dude doesnt missss lmao props to ur Vid bruh

[@v3rsatile_V3]

after looking at the light dokkaebi princess I think she might have some uses her passive heals everyone for 30% on her turn than another 30% if they have a beneficial effect, if I had her I could say if she is actually good but I think she is usable

[@chingling135]

She’s cracked

[@Ryosare]

What do you think about the new Carmella (Fire Cyborg) + Tiana combo, which grants you irresistible strip into irresistible defbreak? I feel like you could cook up something with this, no? Would love your opinion on that. EDIT: after testing her out myself a few times now, even tho her text in german says irresistible, it still may miss as i noticed. So glancing is the issue here, no? So... don't mind me, no new hidden OP combo xD Great Videos, thanks for the effort!

[@Thepokedek]

I made a comment back in 15/16 when i got illiana (she was my first l&d 4 star that was outside of a HOH) that she wasn't anything special and Chloe was kinda better in the buffs she provided or the very least more useful than a 4* light monster in Illiana. That comment to this day is the top voted comment in her discussion and you guessed it, almost 9 years later she hasn't been buffed.

[@moacyrnogueiraluz1196]

Which string master for Toa hell? Light or wind or use both? Kinda confused

[@Seiishizo]

Light, then wind, then fire in that order.

[@dracyra]

is there will be ld5 tier list?

[@hirstygaming4752]

Thoughts on this tier list on an LD only account?

[@moin-123]

18:35 I see MST still pretty often in the Backline of g3 Sieges.

[@hmmmmmyes8062]

no dark sniper? i just got him but seems kinda me

[@chibbster1691]

why do u only need 53 acc on bomber?

[@charalacuchara9765]

Glad to see Cris and Bethony cuz I spam the hell out of those 2. Easily my fav units in the game

[@dergutename]

if you dont wanna use aka in gbah u can use ereadas (white sylph thing) aka is better but if you want to be different

[@RiftyLuca]

quad hit into giants tho

[@creeeamy7133]

Eva is a really funny unit and I really want to use her in 4* Special league when I can. Along side Konamia and any kind of defense breaker she's done well for me in guild content, but I haven't found anything setup where I can use her in RTA even in the lower tiers.

[@martinlutherkingsize]

light robot is quite good in specifique teams

[@diaolener8703]

nice one :D

[@codythatcher735]

I love all of my LD4's being in either Not commonly used, but probably bad, or BAD/Meme 😭

[@suleymanylmaz15]

thanks

[@lennartstockl5826]

On my new account I used Halphas to get through the 70s stages in toa hard. (Dark yeti and Jultan stages.) It was sefinetely a new low in my life.

[@lenlilam8199]

Trasar is pretty insane in g2 siege and below

[@NicoLuna95]

Wait doesn't Lucas get 30 Crit rate by default from passive? Even if shield is down I mean

[@Seiishizo]

Apparently he doesn't need it no.

[@rohan5564]

Yes, he gets free 30% CR and damage boost in proportion to the shield thickness (not only his own shield but any shield applied to him)

[@jonyongkkkl5119]

When 90% of the LD4 are more useful than 50% of the LD5, that speaks volume. Also people are not very familiar with LD4 skillset so that can bring an element of surprise to the opponent.

[@mateusbp2]

I have Leah but I don't have any setup for her, only Galleon, I don't have Tiana or Adriana, and for me, she doesn't do more damage than Lushen because I can't make her very fast.

[@MohaASeck]

You don't need her to have more than +120 and you can replace Adrianna by eshir or fire blade dancer or the premium Craig. So chiwu/Gemini - Fire blade - Galleon and Leah

[@user-ed8iw9cx3k]

Any suggestion of chris in siege offence?? Chilling Chris @??

[@justinwilder8571]

Yeah I'm not really understanding how to make Chris work at all

[@pierrelapierre7108]

Probably use a gemini ?

[@treeck3724]

It'd likely be chilling Chris miyang, same idea as miyang adriana sonia, fast base spd spd buffer and big nuke in Chris/sonia with miyang for spd lead and extra dmg/2nd 1 shot on squishy stuff

[@justinwilder8571]

@@treeck3724 Thank you I will test this out EDIT: Tested it, she is not a big nuke at all. I looked through all the defenses of my guild and saw 0 places where I would be able to pick her. And you would never build her over something like a Khali or Shren. I think Seii made a mistake.

[@darrelld8578]

Frigate is very underrated. He’s the single biggest attack bar booster in the game. Good for speed arena teams

[@dramatique5624]

there’s a 3* that does the same tho

[@marielcarey4288]

And the 3 star is faster​@@dramatique5624

[@pierrelapierre7108]

​@@dramatique5624But Purian base spd is trash . Frigate easier to rune since he has higher base spd.

[@user-uv2mb7pc9j]

great video

[@lukildsz]

Gg man, tnx, link for the list?

[@Seiishizo]

edited it in the description

[@Zeledon3]

Dang, I just finished building my dragunov, but at least I know to pull my dark string out from storage😅

[@pimenta2541]

don't care to him, build what you think is good, this is the fun of the game

[@galleonspeedrunner8655]

26:35...doesnt the new fire cyborg become the most consistent def break unit in the game rn after nepthys?? if fire cyborg has high enough atk she will always land aoe def break without res check

[@trugam3r402]

Yep. He wasn’t aware of that tho, vid was before new monster

[@ChoperJoJo]

and to think years ago i wished for a dark samurai and got it in 2020 i think. Gave him all my devilmons lmao... the regrets now

[@Queendom-jd9ln]

I got Leah & Icares but no nat 5 this many scroll event. I mean there are 200+ more scrolls available but after 250 scrolls I havent got nat 5. Leah & Icares are the only great ld i got. Time to delete the account & make new.

[@the.reel.mccoy.]

The only one that I slightly disagree is Sige, He actually has a lot of turn control on Vio

[@lolc4108]

Yeah..l wait my first mirinae,kinki,dova,dark archer,leah and martina 😢

[@MohaASeck]

Waiting for Seii to make Chris offenses because yeah her placing is kinda sus

[@Seiishizo]

check the arena hits of guts the berserk. he uses her quite some.

[@Mystery-2nite]

sad light neostone agent isnt all that good, it looked strong to me

[@YanlucasxD]

Hard disagree on Tosi, I used to use him in AO before I pulled Leah He's basically Leah with ~30% less dmg, but still enough damage to cleave those Karnal defenses

[@Seiishizo]

I think many units can do more dmg than him, i wouldn't use tosi for it if i didn't have leah.

[@ShiekSw]

Skogul trasar in siege is pretty strong

[@durant8006]

Arnold beat this easy

[@ShiekSw]

@@durant8006 as a offense haha

[@durant8006]

@@ShiekSw oh my bad

[@gabrielblox_br1395]

Com2us fkin nerfed my icasha even tough she wasent strong...

[@laxusanime2504]

Is this video glitched

[@ronlanders7354]

I agree korana is pretty bad in rl and in game.😂

[@farhanqqq5358]

Where we can use deborah ?

[@philippemuniz4203]

Dark Taoist

[@Seiishizo]

nat 3

[@MohaASeck]

Damn the disrespect on Korona is insane even Lanett (actual trash unit) is higher

[@carlhaight3827]

I agree, actually! I use him to help prevent people cutting my terribly speed tuned units. And if Arena units don't have buffs? great, toss out the crit/atk buffs.

[@ramirosantana2648]

Cant believe the place of the samurais...even the light pirate among them???!!!...nop. Inacceptable...

[@wagon3855]

specifical is not a word but great video otherwise

[@Seiishizo]

www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/specifical#:~:text=Definition%20of%20'specifical'&text=1.,a%20specified%20or%20particular%20thing okay

[@moin-123]

😂

[@lordvectra7821]

​@@Seiishizo LOL GOTTEM

[@mehirrahmansumon6870]

Someone pls comment the heroes mentioned in the vid lol

[@diluc1611]

Tbh I see more mollys than bettas and I’m more scared of Molly 😂

[@loganadam4108]

Rating units on how useful they are in summoners war but only if they should be built for siege! Thanks

[@nathanchen2824]

Man this is really weird to see because I have both light and dark magic archer but was told dark is ok but requires too much setup and that light was just decent. I also have 2 dovas and 1 dark string master that are both unbuilt (because my swift runes are garbage) but I never knew they were considered so strong

[@mdnght0095]

Are u dutch ?

[@Ant-Honey568]

Magnus Carlsen for summoners war

[@landersaiz44]

Where is isillen? Dark elf

[@Seiishizo]

good point that one is missing i'll write it in the comments

[@eyelesstriangle]

(Prepare yourself, it's a whole novella below) I have many non-hoh ld 4's, so I could say a thing or *two* about them. Chris. Have two, the last time I used them was around 2 years ago, didn't think she is that good. Maybe I should google some offs with her. Molly. Two as well. I use one from time to time, but the second one is still not skilled up as she is almost never used. I think they should return her 15% of glancing to herself. Martina. Yes, two. Again. Full dmg build with as much spd as possible. Rarely do I use the second mst, nonetheless dmg build is the only one that is actually good for an offence. Tanky mst are usually demolished by procs. Grego. Choose you number. Was it 2? You are right! Six-starred the second one to get some energy thanks to the endless number of 1-3* scrolls. Did use him as a dark tank, but he isn't very good for it since he receives only 50% of healing. And now with 5 hoh dark knights, I doubt I will use him any time soon. Isllen. There are 4 units above, which is twice as more as my number of Isllens. I like using him, but too bad there aren't many defs that he is good against. Prefer on a spd build (desp will 20k hp 170 spd), but it seems like most people just use very tanky and slow build, so maybe I'll try it the next time. Icares. You already know the number, don't you? I just give her my karnal's runes when I use her (vio destroy, 41k hp, 106 spd). Of course she gets less hp, but it still works very good. If only she was hp or even support type... still, very good sniper, though I don't use the second one often. Dark ezio. The collab one looks more handsome than the sw one, no one can convince me otherwise. And, of course, I have both of them, i.e 2 in total of them lying around in my storage. Uselessly. -Wow, It's already very long.- Double shenanigans are over as I have no more double 4*. Sadge. [Sad Orion Emoji Here] I still have Leah, Dark robo, Betta and Vritra though, and I would most certainly build more If I had more, especially Leah. Leah does such an immense amount of dmg, that nowadays I use only two cleave teams just with her (typical Chiwu, Galleon, Eshir and Adriana, Tiana, Luer), which made my other teams (including those with Isis) pretty useless. Moreover, even when galleon or luer mess up (often...) and don't land a def break or two, I still end up winning in many cases thanks to her dmg. And with Gimini becoming f2p once again and doing a lot of work by himself (unlike a certain ld nat 5 in my possession), I can try to build Gemini Adriana Leah Isis team. To be honest, I'm scared to even think about speed tuning 4 units with spd buff only, when one of them has 96 base and the other one has 120... But it might end up being a good team, so it's worth to try. -Now it's even longer and there is one thing more I want to say...- I disagree with light yennefer being above Madeleine (light Deborah). I have both and Madeleine unironically pairs very well with Odin. So at least she got one niche she is good in. Light yen on the other hand... She does nothing. Her passive is pretty mediocre, since there aren't many units or even defs that have enough of stripps and buffs for her to be used, and what even worse, in order to work she needs a unit that provides buffs next to her! But what does she do on herself? The only real thing she does is putting oblivion with her s2... No dmg, no heal/cleanse, no buffs, no setup, no control. She's got 10.380 hp, 615 def and 103 base spd, so she's not even fast or tanky! Now, lets look at Delphoi. Delphoi has oblivion in her s2 as well (with decreasing cooldown time), but she also provides cleanse, healing and immunity, and her base stats are 10.875 hp, 703 def and 96 spd... Delphoi does 4 more things, while being completely f2p and, moreover, having fusionable skill ups! There is no place for light yennefer, not with this kit at least. I think the best buff for light yen would be switching her s2 with dark yen (whose kit made of shield and CC doesn't make a lot of sense, especially for an ld5). With shield on s2, she will be somewhat useable. All of the above is my opinion, of course. Wow! It's over... Goodness, I'm such a blabbermouth. Thanks to all who read it 'till the end, I appreciate it.

[@donwebster9292]

Doesnt do enough damage and just makes me mad. Lol.

[@Queendom-jd9ln]

I came here because I got Aurelia(light Gladiatrix) & u didn't even include her💀💀🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️

[@Dnice_]

I pulled her as well and omg she never lands anything! Granted she's not skilled up but still.

[@carlhaight3827]

Is included. mentioned in passing. Meme level. Aure/Kass.

[@Caioboladim_]

forgot about isillen

[@Seiishizo]

added him in comments, thanks :)

[@Caioboladim_]

@@Seiishizo love your content

[@summonersummoner9536]

Green should be the best units and red the worse

[@ShiekSw]

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[@gabrielblox_br1395]

Com2us fkin nerfed my icasha even tough she wasent strong...

[@gabrielblox_br1395]

Com2us fkin nerfed my icasha even tough she wasent strong...