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[@cameronmechan1646]

I don't know why people were complaining about your english, it's better than a lot of people in the U.S.A ! keep up the great content, it's extremely interesting and unique!

[@railgap]

better than my French of German! We - the USA - are not the center of the world, folks.

[@cameronmechan1646]

for real though

[@edibandulan5266]

I can't understand anything that black people say in Bushwick, New York.

[@ZDM314]

I understood them just fine

[@luminousfractal420]

His english is great -welshman

[@MyMcMichael]

The optical sensor is probably from a dryer to sense the wet clothes. And the gyroscope from a washing machine to sense if there are vibrations or so.

[@0_741]

Разбаланс в стиральных машинах определяется не по акселерометрам, а по величине пульсаций напряжения на обмотке таходатчика на двигателе. После амплитудного детектора измеряется АЦП и определяется величина разбаланса

[@gustavevilleneuvedehoff-un5459]

@@0_741ну ты секреты-то сразу не выдавай - секрет починки стиралки, это тебе не головку самонаведения разобрать, это дело серьезное!

[@BertoldVdb]

Almost, the gyro senses the rotation of the washing drum.

[@rogeratygc7895]

@@BertoldVdb There have to be enormously easier ways to do that!

[@donnie1581]

Сатира@@0_741

[@viruslab1]

very interesting, please continue

[@koelsche_jung]

A very good video, I'm curious to see how the restoration of the connections and the functional test goes. The fiber optic measurement method for the three axes is also interesting. Perhaps one can find out conclusions about the pulse speed LWL to E-impulse.

[@mrshyman1257]

Сегодня встретил этот датчик(на фотодиодах) показывали среди обломков х-101,сбитой в Украине.

[@nchurly]

Thank you. Very interesting video. Also it seems i understand French!

[@eugenenuribekov1231]

590KH3 is the Russian replica of Intersil HI-506.

[@jenix102]

Or Harris😂

[@stevejobs1653]

Hello from Ukraine! 🖐 I live in the city of Zaporozhye, 50 kilometers from the front line.

[@elektrikpco]

Чому нэ українскою?

[@taran22eight]

@@elektrikpco russian kid moment:

[@ggrisha87]

Greetings from Borodok! Nice to meet you here, zemlyak ;-) Slava Ukraine!

[@fraerokpotap4486]

​@@elektrikpcoчому не на фронте?

[@fraerokpotap4486]

​@@ggrisha87Гераням Слава!!!

[@dj4ckklephtic561]

Les Russes surclasse leurs armements avec des composants l'électronique basique , ils sont vraiment impressionnant.

[@jenix102]

Всё дело в математике. А русские математики и программисты регулярно занимают первые места на Олимпиадах в мире...

[@dj4ckklephtic561]

@@jenix102 Pas faux .

[@FrancoisLabelle-yf8tj]

@@jenix102 That why Russians can't engineer a better car than their Fiat copied Lada...

[@jenix102]

@@FrancoisLabelle-yf8tj а русские военные ракеты лучшие в мире. А русская атомная промышленность лучшая в мире. И т.д. причём они сделаны не всем миром, как микросхемы Интел или АМД, сделанные на Тайване 🤣, нееет. Ракеты и атомные реакторы сделаны исключительно русскими.

[@FrancoisLabelle-yf8tj]

@@jenix102 In general, almost 30 countries help russia manufacture weapons. The United States is among the largest "importers" of components, accounting for almost 75% of all parts found in russian weapons, which in terms of units is 1813 out of 2453 parts, including microcircuits, transistors, and capacitors. At the same time, russia itself produces only 13 parts out of the entire list that the NACP investigated. These are mainly GPS and navigation receivers for some types of UAVs and "bodies" for missiles. In addition to parts from companies registered in the United States, at least - 119 parts from Switzerland - 96 from Japan - 87 from China - 78 from Germany - 62 from the Netherlands - 59 from Taiwan As well as various details from companies registered in the UK, Korea, France, Belgium, North Korea, Thailand, Italy, Israel, Sweden, Singapore, Canada, Portugal, Turkey, Belarus, Spain, Poland, Denmark, the Philippines, Uzbekistan and Ireland. Keep drinking the Russian Kool-Aid!!

[@Eng_Simoes]

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[@aegis3d]

Thanks MIchel for this very interesting content! From your previous video I understand there were some complaints on your English, but I find it very clear and comprehensible. Some of my coworkers are much harder to understand!

[@notbfg9000]

It's the most stereotypical French accent and I love it :)

[@continental_drift]

Its sad that we are nearly at 2024 and some people haven't figured out how to use Closed Captions.

[@jesusisunstoppable4438]

​@@continental_drift I was Literally going to say the same thing.

[@notbfg9000]

@@continental_drift I know how closed captions work, but the situation has to be very bad to make me bother to go click on a thing. Realistically I have the phone/laptop on a shelf and doing the dishes or soldering stuff or installing software on another computer while having the clip in the corner of my eye.

[@luigiaqua2263]

It’s perfect froglish.

[@billyjoel22359]

First looks like an infrared seeker from either an Igla or Verba (probably Igla). It's a rolling airframe missile so the fact that it's a linear array of infrared sensing elements makes more sense than in an Iskander. The missile "rolls" at a relatively high rate (900+ RPM) and as it rolls it's building a virtual image from the rolling action of the missile This was a common technique with early "4th generation" surface to air systems that were prior to the ubiquity of the larger 128x128 or 56x56 focal plane arrays you see in more modern imaging missile systems from the early 2000s and didn't require as much processing power and techniques like this were a lot cheaper and production volume ready than true larger format FPAs in the late 80s and 90s. The same technique is applied in the US Navy RIM-116 except it also includes a pair of inline interferometers for RF detection/fusing against radiating targets like active seeker anti-ship missiles. The RIM-116 also has a much better linear array; 80 elements in a 80x1 focal array.

[@mtrest4]

wow the airframe rolls at 1000 rpm ! so that's a refresh rate of about 16 Hz. it probably does some interpolation between frames. still shocked that an airframe would be rolling at that speed. if the missile is not centripitally balanced, it would be doing a cork-screw through the air.

[@txm100]

I'm by no means an expert, but the rest of the components don't look like from these 4th gen SA missiles. They look way too modern. Why would you use old sensors but modern SMD boards?

[@billyjoel22359]

@@mtrest4 I've seen some open source documents that put the RIM-116 rotation rate in the 1000-1500 RPM ballpark and videos I've seen of the test rig for the seeker subsystem have it spinning at a very high rate, easily 20+ revolutions per second.

[@billyjoel22359]

​@@txm100 Partial modernization of older systems is pretty common as manufacturing techniques improve while you maintain the original system design. Largely because the testing and verification of weapons is extensive and time consuming. Upgrading too many things at once or changing core operating principles (even if the end result in the same) is generally seen as requiring repeating previously done verification and test programs because you've effectively built a new system. For this example, upgrading amplifier assemblies is easy to verify and show that it won't change how the core system works or functions, but replacing the seeker with a full-format FPA and a totally different digital imaging system is not equivalent and why you see old technology persist in either its existing flavor attached to new subsystems or in slightly different flavors as manufacturing techniques improve. Designing systems and building them is the easy part, the hard part is test and evaluation and making sure it works as close to the system goal as possible 100% of the time.

[@AlexKarasev]

@@billyjoel22359 An underrated comment. Any time system processing is changed in a non-trivial way, there are also security risks - not just information leaking but also software or hardware injection. I've heard that this is a bad enough problem in civilian space, to say nothing of this.

[@nicoras8803]

The big micro chip is definitely not from a vacuum cleaner. Few things need a gyro. Definitely mil quality. Phase modulator can also detect angle of approach. Beautiful, I used to have a job designing that stuff when I was a younger man. Those connectors are very expensive. Silicone is also used for vibration suppression. That thing must be subject to extreme vibration at the speed it approaches. Thank you, it was very interesting. It is a bit more modern than when I was in defence research in the mid/late seventies, where angle of approach and speed was measured using Doppler radar.

[@tedmoss]

A bit more modern? that's a good one, probably from the early 80's.

[@joenicotera2991]

Optical or not, it's still an inertial gyro. So, the entire board can only do the one thing. It's a math exam..."I want to know my velocity." "Well, Sir, we can only know velocity if we measure velocity over a span of time." "Do we know my velocity yet?" "No sir, we only know what your velocity was. It isn't possible that your velocity is that any more." "Then why did you bother to calculate it?" "Because you are the boss Sir."

[@henryyoung7184]

I was not aware that FPGAs were used in washing machines, as Ursula Van Der Crazy assures us ;)

[@vladimirassalukas6726]

Yes yes in washing maschines and in toilets, sure 😂😂

[@otofoto]

Reusing components for production is not practical.

[@henryyoung7184]

@@otofoto Tell that to the un-elected EU technocrat who clearly confuses a spin cycle and media spin ;)

[@KokoroKatsura]

@@henryyoung7184reported

[@otofoto]

@@henryyoung7184 In her defence most in EU clearly couldn’t understand why TerroRussians are stealing washing machines and toilets. The concept is so alien that such ideas come up.

[@wolpumba4099]

*Summary* - *Intro* - 0:10: Received two packets from Ukraine. - 0:13: First packet from Kiev, second from Dnipro. - *Optical Sensor from 9M727 Iskander Missile* - 0:29: Optical sensor, part of a Russian Iskander missile 9M727. - 0:48: Contains 16 photocells, likely infrared photodiodes. - 0:55: Bonding wires are missing. - 1:01: Four identical PCBs, each with four amplifiers. - 1:24: Central part connects 16 signals, likely with a single output. - 1:53: Ceramic IC, Russian made, dated 2004, possibly encodes the 16 signals. - 2:09: Plans to reverse engineer and possibly restore the sensor. - *3-Axis Fiber Optic Gyroscope (probably from Tornado MLRS)* - 2:45: Three-axis fiber optic gyroscope, likely from a Russian missile. - 3:37: Contains a roll of fiber optic using the Sagnac effect. - 3:44: Connected to an infrared LED. (Superluminescent LED DL-CS5153A, 1550nm, 40nm FWHM, 10..35mW, DenseLight, InP fab in Singapore) - 4:04: Measures light delay due to rotation, using a coupler and phase modulator. - 4:19: Phase modulator compensates for delay caused by Sagnac effect. - 4:48: Circuit includes three ADCs and three DACs. - 5:18: FPGA board from Altera, Cyclone II model. - 5:28: Board removed from assembly, wires cut. - 6:15: Plans to reverse engineer and possibly test the device. - 6:00: Noted missing components, possibly power supply. - 6:05: Temperature sensor observed. - 6:30: Intends further investigation and reverse engineering. - *Conclusion* - 6:31: Thanks viewers and anticipates a future video about the sensor. *Summary of top comments as of 2023-12-30* - Some commenters debate the origin of the optical sensor, suggesting it might be from an Igla or Verba man-portable air-defense system (MANPADS) rather than from an Iskander missile due to the rolling airframe missile design and the type of infrared sensing elements used. A few commenters express doubt that the first sensor is from an Iskander missile, with one noting that Iskander is a ballistic missile and would not have an infrared seeker. - There is a discussion about the use of older sensor technologies with modern circuit boards, with one commenter explaining that partial modernization is common to avoid extensive retesting while maintaining the core system design. - One commenter identifies the chips on a PCB as output isolators, suggesting specific models and noting the data path from the FPGA to these chips. - A detailed identification of a chip is provided, including its code, pointing out that it is an Altera/Intel FPGA. - There is a mention of a fiber optic gyroscope potentially being made from low-cost optics, with admiration for its construction. - There is an observation about the continued use of PTFE insulated wires in the designs. - Several comments note the reliance on Western components in Russian military electronics, with some expressing amazement that no domestic components are used and others remarking on the obsolescence of certain parts.

[@TheLittleDeath1]

No washing machines had been harmed in the production of that rocket.

[@TheLittleDeath1]

Selfmade chaff

[@bigdevil73]

@@TheLittleDeath1😂10/10

[@dmitrysmirnov9188]

I doubt the first infrared sensor is from Iskander indeed. It is likely to be from one of the Russian surface-to-air manpad, like Igla or Verba.

[@TR_P]

Yes, the ring at the bottom seems a mount to the airframe, and it is far too sub diameter for iskander.

[@ItsTristan1st]

Also the construction technique looked more like something for lower cost systems.

[@VasiliyLomovoy]

То что блогер с 20-тью тысячами подписчиков получил в распоряжение часть искандера - несусветная чушь сама по себе. Вообще, надо сообщить, для тех кто не в курсе - Украинский и Российский ВПК работали бок о бок до середины 2010-х годов, на протяжении 90 лет (со врем образования СССР) и поэтому на Украине полно компонентов используемых в российском вооружении производимом со времен СССР, но КОНЕЧНО не в последних образцах вооружения, которые уже разрабатывались или модернизировались в России в 21 веке. с оглядкой на тот факт ,что украинцы продадут какие угодно ВАШИ секреты, и не важно 0 друзья вы их, или вы их враги.

[@ItsTristan1st]

@@u666sa not at all. And I have quite a bit of exposure to military electronics. It looks like commercial spec construction, almost from a drone or something like that. It is definitely not from an Iskander.

[@anatolijku7242]

@@VasiliyLomovoy ты чета не совсем понял... жители Северска жалуются царю что у них совсем плохо с врачами. и записали челобитную. ты забывши совсем что золото в ракетах - это нищета пенсионеров. нищенские зарплаты и просрочка у Пятерочки. твое фуфлогонство на теме убийства славян засчитано.

[@ArsenioDev]

Michel, you're in the same region of ebay as I am! I was eyeing these to tear down after I had hands on time with them in Kyiv earlier this year. That FOG is from the TORNADO MLRS, I tore down four while over there

[@lelabodemichel5162]

Thank you for the information regarding the FOG.

[@hamzaarif7249]

​@@lelabodemichel5162make a video anti tank missile teardown special request

[@mojevalka]

do you have some videos as well? it's quite interesting to see what's inside

[@danobrien3601]

I thought if it was Russian ..Houston we have a problem .. looks very advanced

[@Anton-dl7me]

@@danobrien3601 it could be foreign ICs and sensors assembled and/or lacquered by russians

[@ssa8946]

по трек номеру можно определить того украинца который отправил этот датчик

[@true.is.around]

90 % of russian weapons made by US/UK/France ... so great work...

[@Phantom-rb8yv]

And why can't European weapons compete with Russian ones if everything comes from there? Question after question. By the way, the Soviet Union already had chip production and the production of other electronic components. It amuses me to hope that all of this is based on European technology.

[@georgeprout42]

Nothing wrong with your English my friend, complaints probably come from non native English speakers. Merci mon ami!

[@f33net]

If you send a lot of money to a ukrainian, he will send you a "Sarmat"... 😂

[@passerbyworld]

And he will arrive under his own power😂

[@f33net]

@@passerbyworld no, no, for own power need ask us for it... 🙂But we don't know how to lie so skillfully, everything can be real...

[@eumenius]

Nice build quality. Parts are indeed not sourced from microwave ovens.

[@cogoid]

This gyroscope unit is used in the Russian Soyuz-TMA spaceship and also in the military missiles. It costs over $20K.

[@ItsTristan1st]

Must be from washing machines. Ursula said so and she is so very smart.

[@rdengin]

This one is from washing machine

[@rzhevsky4934]

​@@rdengin главное верить! Ведь телеящег не врёт!!1

[@mrshyman1257]

​@@rzhevsky4934А ВВС ....точно не врет.

[@christopherleubner6633]

The first sensor looks a lot like a midwave IR spectrometer sensor. These used ferroelectric BST crystals mounted in a linear array. The light source is chopped blanked or otherwise moddulated.

[@targetmann100ify]

IN laymans term please ..LAYMANS term 🙂🙃🙂

[@lindsaycole8409]

So that would mean it's used to target on laser-painted targets?

[@herauthon]

IR > Heat seeking ; or Heat imaging (like FLIR) ?

[@pedros3]

I wonder no French recalls Napoleon when Russians ask him about the things coming to his mind about Russia. France lost in 1812 and will lose today. Just surrender and ask Putin to take your lands if you want to stay alive! Btw Russian champaign and Russian cognac called because Russians defeated Napoleon army, it was a form of contribution after the victory of 1812. You french do not learn the history, stop messing with Russia! Every 100 years the same problem, just forget about Russia, let Russian imperator do what he wants if you want to live where you live!

[@786otto]

1550 MN Superluminescent led diode made by Superlum in Ireland

[@bobojamba]

Без МГТФ ни одно изделие не обходится :)

[@Mr.Leeroy]

и гребаные винты под плоскую отвертку

[@woopsserg]

Меня убила платка с одной 591КН3 которую запихнули чтобы была хоть одна российская радиодеталь. Куча проводов и стеклянных изоляторов чтобы одну хренову микросхему мультиплексора в DIP корпусе присобачить. Запросто могли на одну из платок усилителей запихнуть в SMD корпусе. При том судя по датам на платах, 591КН3 минимум 10 лет на складах провалялась.

[@biluser]

Вот почему Россию считают отсталой почитайте ваши комментарии и западные ! Вы будущее России ? Нет война идет чтобы таких малограмотных мы больше в нашей стране не производили ! Привет из СССР

[@someonethatuveneverseen3158]

не, оно работает, и это главное. но меня смущает компоновка оптического датичка (четыре наполовину свободные платы усилителей, а внутри на отъ..ись мультиплексор в дип корпусе, к нему веер практически не уложенного одноцветного мгтф'а) и в целом толщина текстолита. да, я разводил платы под многовыводные смд компоненты, да, я знаю, что ее однослойной сделать нереально, но кмон, почему у двухслойной платы толщина такая мелкая? такое ощущение, что это тот же текстолит, на котором я дома всякие поделки собираю. умели же делать нормально, достаточно посмотреть на советские военные изделия: толстые платы, прочное шасси, где надо, чтобы не было путаницы, вместо мгтф'а стоит мс какой нибудь и прочее, прочее прочее. ну, либо это я дурак и чего то не понимаю)

[@iguigu2966]

не забывайте про гиперзвуковые скорости и ускорения. Это не смартфон.@@woopsserg

[@PetrGladkikh]

4:34 Part number is МИОМ-001 - ends with "ОМ" which is indeed may be "optical modulator".

[@cogoid]

The official name is "Multifunctional Integrated Optical Module". The stuff inside includes more than just the modulators. This is one of the most critical to the performance of the entire gyroscope components. The know-how of the manufacturer is precisely in these optical parts, while the electronics, as we see here, is built with the ordinary off-the-shelf components. These gyroscopes are (or at least were until recently) sold internationally, and a rather detailed information about them is openly available. Although the manufacturing is done in Russia, the company is actually half owned by foreign investors.

[@teodor4ik183]

Its cyrilic so not exact 😊

[@TheAndyBig]

@@teodor4ik183 In Cyrillic the abbreviation will look the same - Многофункциональный Интегрированный Оптический Модуль - МИОМ :)

[@danobrien3601]

I once was involved in the early fibre gyroscope development as an engineer way back in the 80's .. gotta say I'm impressed with this Russian version . Looks very well made and the block diagram shows very advanced processing

[@Mike-H_UK]

Excellent. You obviously have very good sources.

[@vasiliynkudryavtsev]

5:44 The correct code for chip in center is "EP2C8Q208I8N", Cyclone II Altera/Intel FPGA.

[@MrPopel]

Pretty old one !

[@marcusaurelius3487]

@@MrPopelwhy use the newest if old works as well

[@MrPopel]

@@marcusaurelius3487 Because the old one are runing out of stock.

[@KeritechElectronics]

Nice video - an interesting glimpse into military electronics, and a nice comment on Western-Russian military industrial complex.

[@jenix102]

1:55 591кн3 - analog of HI-506, Harris Semicoductor Corp. 16-in 2 way multiplexor to 1. +-15v, 1mA consumption. Producer "Svetlana" Saint-Petersburg (S) - vaccuum tube, tranzistors, ics for genereral purpose n defence.

[@runner-cheetah]

On a video very old parts, from 2000 year, is not a secret, it shows on educational channel. Optic gyro is a old nav from regular plane (spare nav system) sensor array on miniature frame - from anti aircraft mini missile, like Igla or something man launched. Nothing special. Modern have a chips from fridge or washing machine, like news channel says 😂

[@vladpanov9672]

if it was a controller from Iskander, it would say BOSCH EPW65320 on a label)))

[@bertkoerts3991]

Fascinating! I’m sure to follow your channel! Curious if these parts were expensive. I recently discovered the practical use of FPGA boards (I’m an hobbyist) and was recently explaining to my wife how well suited they are for robots (which a missile in essence is.. ) Thanks for your content! 👍😊

[@hikistewart4040]

I'm curious, did your wife appreciate it?

[@victoryfirst2878]

I would bet you Michel, that the missing parts were taken off on purpose. SOMETIMES to much information can be a hindrance from victory on the battlefield. But that is only an assumption and not a fact. I like the videos fella. JOB WELL DONE !!!!

[@MrEddieLomax]

A primitive chip, not even sure if its a FPGA, note the manual calibration of each sensor - we do auto calibration in our fpga's today. The masses of white wires, if they simplified it then they could have made sockets with cables and then really mass produced. Instead there is some poor sod hand soldering each device! That cycloneII looks old! Today cycloneIII is sold (we use at our company) but is going end of life - they significantly raised prices on parts a couple of years ago, a far more sophisticated device but its 20 year old tech, I suspect the cycloneII was probably grey import and previously recycled. The pcb routing looks a mess and amateurish plus cheap pcb, the fact they soldered a 10-pin jtag hints at them doing a manual bring up of each board. The willy-nilly components plastered everywhere is disgusting, but also note - no sockets other than the jtag - obviously their design thinking - veeerry slow for production!

[@posmoo9790]

the f-35's most advanced node is 90nm and it is required to many orders of magnitude more calculations that a AGM has to do. I guess you simply don't understand how relatively simple military hardware can be to be extremely effective.

[@MrEddieLomax]

@@posmoo9790 Simple military gear can be effective, but by todays standards these boards are primitive. I work with devices orders of magnitude more complex, such as Arria10 90's - still only considered medium fpga's. Take a look at a tear-down for a Javelin missile system, its crazy how advanced it is, the quality of components too really speaks volumes. But I can only wonder at what must have gone into the design process. If that second board is an example of Russia's top tech then it speaks of deep problems and a complete lack of technical ability to design modern and reliable electronics.

[@posmoo9790]

@@MrEddieLomax that gear you are talking about is designed to be stored literally for 3-4 decades. those javelins in ukraine were made 30 years ago. the russians make stuff like that too, obviously many of those missiles they fired at the beginning of the war many were 40 years old. they're still using kh-55 missiles (with no warheads) as decoy drones that were built in the 1970s and 1980s. but this stuff they are producing is many cases now is going to be shot off tomorrow. you don't make things like that in the same way. they don't finish their 152mm shells or anything else right now. they don't paint them. there's no point. they won't exist long enough to rust. even though they are outproducing the entire west by 2x they still don't have near enough gear being produced. a problem they might actually have is they haven't cut corners enough yet. there's a video of circuit board for a tornado s-rocket and they are still using the process they used long ago to create very dependable very robust electronics. maybe they just don't want to convert everything they have to war production because after the war they still need to able to create a weapon reserve that can last many decades.

[@MrEddieLomax]

@@posmoo9790 The breakdowns are on recently produced missiles, their electronics really is a amateur cottage industry. I have not seen any evidence of design practices to facilitate mass production. You can believe what you want, but the fact Russia is importing from Iran and NK speaks of big problems. We are literally viewing a video revealing consumer grade components - that is never a good thing.

[@TheAtomstrike]

the last frames show places with missing details. There are traces of thermal paste left. It can be assumed that there were electric heaters that, together with temperature sensors, provided thermal stabilization

[@Gafar7653]

please return my spare parts from the washing machine!!!!

[@Exciting__Electronics]

Very impressive, thanks for sharing 👍🏻

[@enoughnonsensenowlistenup3458]

люблю МГТФ

[@Hepad_]

Michel, ça te dérange pas de montrer ton adresse comme ça ?

[@AIexanderHartdegen]

il a masqué l'adresse du vendeur, mais pas la sienne. Ce gars est solide comme un rock.

[@Hepad_]

@@AIexanderHartdegen C'est un total gigachad, qu'on se le dise

[@campbellmorrison8540]

What a shame somebody has wreaked that gyro, pretty clever stuff, note the Western parts :)

[@YourDetector]

If you have money I am sure you can buy from Ukrainians the parts of intercepted Kinzhals (even if they are not interceptable)

[@ItsTristan1st]

Spot on!

[@rzhevsky4934]

Какие "перехваченные Кинжалы"?😂 Они ни одного не смогли перехватить

[@mrshyman1257]

На скоростях прилета они дефрагментируются.

[@YourDetector]

@@rzhevsky4934 перехватить то не перехватили, но кто мешает продавать на ебее иностранцам ;)) Украинцы всегда были отличными продавцами ))

[@СергейГоробец-р4с]

As soon as you send the money to Ukraine, you can forget about them. You will lose them.

[@francoisscala417]

You should not publish your personal information like this (address, phone number and name). If you want a postal address to receive stuff, use postal box instead.

[@ЭффектДаннинга_Крюгера]

@@Dreamsic Too late. Russian special services will come to him soon

[@dinkc64]

Very interesting! You know, I think it would be nice to try to get one of those decoy dart missiles that come out of the iskander.

[@ArsenioDev]

Annoyingly hard to find, trust me I tried to buy one while there but no dice.

[@joeds3775]

One wonders if we could start a tiktok thing for influencers to go catch them...

[@mostlymessingabout]

​@@joeds3775 they might trip on UXO. wouldn't want that on your conscience

[@jenix102]

Ага, видимо кому захотелось стать мёртвым😂😂😂 "добыть захотелось ложные ракеты"😂😂😂 смешно, да.

[@quantasplay]

​@@jenix102, я далек от темы ракетного вооружения, но мне интересно, что за "приманки" выпускает Искандер и почему их так сложно достать

[@fredfred2363]

It would have been interesting to see the optics in front of the linear sensor. Unusual way of making the gyro. We use different techniques in aircraft avionics nowadays, using prisms instead of optical fibre. Fibre can move and vibrate causing jitters to the data rate. Imagine a police car siren coming towards you with a loose mounting for the siren. The tone wouldn't be pure. Same kinda concept.

[@ИванИванов-з7п5ъ]

Оптоволокно не свободно. Оно находится в компаунде. Оптоволокно изотропно по длине. И это дешевле, чем использовать призмы, для которых надо еще сварить изотропное стекло. Fiber cannot move. It is filled with compound. The optical fiber is isotropic in length. And this is cheaper than using prisms, for which isotropic glass must also be welded.

[@SandorPipei]

5:44 At the bottom right corner above the ADC the header it look like a JTAG header. It will be intresting to see if there are any kind of fpga configuration eeporm where the bitsteam for the FPGA is stored. I'm sure that even if exists it's content is encrypted. Merci beaucoup d'avoir partagé ces démontages avec nous.

[@vov4ick]

This is usual FOG, which are commercially available, i think there are no incredible interesting things inside.

[@vasiliynkudryavtsev]

One of nearby SOIC8 chips is EPCS - the special Altera chip to store FPGA config.

[@fredfred2363]

FPGA config data isn't typically encrypted. However reverse engineering the config is very time consuming (although it shouldn't be), as each bit of data is simply enabling latches in the logic structure. It's just logic after all...

[@dmitriysavelyev8059]

Exactly the same sensor I have seen inside my washing machine

[@FPV-questions]

Thanks for touching this important topic. Of course, FPGAs are not taken from fridges or washing machines. They get delivered to Russia, Iran and other countries.

[@электроник198]

плис делали еще в ссср. обидно что в мире считают что у нас в России немогут делать электронику. Я как бывший работник завода который делал электронные компоненты скажу, у нас упор идет не на уменьшение и быстродействие а на надежность. Я лично принимал партии компонентов после изготовление и каждый элемент из партии проверялся под микроскопом. Да это дорого и энергоемко , за то на выходе получаются приборы которые могут пережить огромные ударные нагрузки и сохранить параметры.

[@ЭффектДаннинга_Крюгера]

FPGA chips are manufactured in Russia, look for Google 5578TC094, for example, so everything has its time, perhaps in the next review, when Misha will disassemble the next block from the rocket, we will see it there.

[@Мойевропейскийжидобандеровский]

​@@электроник198совок в электронике был лютым говном. Рашка может клепать разве что отсталую военку.

[@FPV-questions]

@@электроник198 зараз використовують 40нм процес, це хіба з електронним мікроскопом сидіти ггг. І ці плати рашка купує з-за кордону

[@hamper3049]

@@электроник198 I've never heard of "Altera Cyclone II" being made in the USSR.

[@test89267]

Hm. I'm wondering where are the notorious chips from stolen ukranian washing machines?!

[@gordonwelcher9598]

KZbin should require all videos to include at least one kitty.

[@msylvain59]

If you do not see a cat in a given youtube video, it's because he's busy controlling the camera.

[@fredfred2363]

LOL! Yep!

[@EinsteinVankuyk]

sixties technology could fit on my drone pfui einst

[@MissilemanIII]

I see they have been Cat Scanned 😂

[@phoneaccount6907]

Inspected, found nothing not known by cats. 🔬👨‍🎓🐈🐾

[@tsclly2377]

Islander.. or was ..his really an old air to air missile.. This 'ain't helping the cause'.. bloody wired 16bit chip, you got to be kidding, for a missile that is hyper-sonic and smashes into the ground.

[@robbypolter6689]

Altera is originally a US company and was bought by Intel in 2015. To this day, despite sanctions, Germany still supplies electronic components to Russia or has them produced there. Similar or almost identical parts can be found in Ukrainian rockets of the Tochka-U type. Originally from Russian production.

[@sirdm9032]

I have a friend from Russia who works at a factory producing such microcircuits, somewhere beyond the Urals.

[@jenix102]

В россии нет производства микросхем западными фирмами. Автомобили западные собираются, но микросхемы нет. Только русские.

[@jenix102]

​@@sirdm90321:55 590кн3 Светлана, Санкт- Петербург. Рядом с финляндией😂

[@davidparrot4669]

encore des circuit que l'on ne voit pas ailleurs, c'est fou ... un grand merci pour le partage c'est toujours un réel plaisir.

[@AbdelmoumenBacetti]

The thing that I can't fathom is how the f..k these items went through the customs of both countries?!!!!!!! The first sensor can't be of an Iskander for obvious reasons. Isknder has no optical seaker afaik, and it is impossble to get anything neat from an exploded Iskander.

[@vysmirnov]

5:45 - EP2C8Q208I8N - Cyclone 2 (EP2C), 8k LE (8), PQFP-208 (Q208), industrial temp range (i), speed grade 8 (8)

[@whatsmyusername1231]

Yikes! I hope Altera didn't actively help Russia develop their missiles....

[@kityacat5419]

Hope it will not help anyone

[@lindsaycole8409]

@@whatsmyusername1231 That is a very old FPGA design (going back to 2005 I think). So available for a long period before sanctions. Really need to see the manufacturing date code to see if it was actually imported by bypassing sanctions.

[@dimchan9096]

@@lindsaycole8409 as a Russian engineer, I will tell you that sanctions do not work, Analog Devices, National Instruments and much more are freely imported into Russia not only through friendly countries, but also directly :)

[@lindsaycole8409]

@@dimchan9096 Yes, be much easier to control machine tools and their parts and consumables than 50 dollar FPGAs. Commercial FPGA and general purpose CPUs can do everything you want to these days. Not like the 80s and 90s where sophisticated weapons needed high-end specialist asics.

[@berbac1976]

Thanks for these wonderful videos.

[@nibiruofficial4463]

Стиральные машины не нашли?

[@xelth]

я только в последнюю минуту понял что он пытался говорить по анлийски ;)

[@magnifikus3]

Interesting to see, that there is no single domestical part, its all powered by intel and analog devices...

[@dsfs17987]

it is even "funnier" if you know that some custom parts aren't even made in russia

[@artip777]

Altera were good stuff back in time before Intel bought them and became piece of overpriced shits. Same happened to Xilinx.

[@HansCloos-fy8nq]

"Borrowing" technology by Russia/USSR is already a tradition. They are a few years behind in development and they put Western/Chinese silicon structures in their ridiculous housings - true. But in the end, they effectively create a deadly weapon and kill innocent people with it. This is what they are really good at and this is their true nature.

[@mullerstephan]

and probably most are fabricated not in the West, but in China

[@GVGVIT]

@@dsfs17987 would not be surprised if it's made by jlcpcb or similar service.

[@marcuskoen7576]

very interesting teardown, thank you very much, sir

[@user-folk1987]

Ммм, родной мгтф

[@andreiminin4738]

Сейчас такого нет, хороший провод, изоляция температуру держит не хуже силикона и прочнее

[@ggrisha87]

А вот и зеленоградцы подтянулись!

[@НелинейныйПовторитель]

@@andreiminin4738 В смысле нет? Вон на авито и прочих барахолках его полно. Можно новый напрямую с завода заказать.

[@alexanderandreev7151]

@@andreiminin4738 В магазинах навалом, хоть на озоне заказывай. Любой калибр, что есть по госту.

[@АннаЗегерс-ъ9к]

КТО ТО ЖЕ НАРУШАЕТ СТАБИЛЬНОСТЬ. КОМУ ОНА НЕ НУЖНА. А ТУТ ДЕЛО ДОХОДИТ ДО ТЕХНИЧЕСКИХ СРЕДСТВ. КТО ОБЕСПЕЧИТ?! ГЛУБИННАЯ НАНАЦИЯ ЗЗЕВАЕТ, КРОМЕ КАК РАПРЕССИЯМИ ТИХУЮ ГАВАНЬ НЕ ОБЕСПЕЧИТЬ. НЕ ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО ГНАТЬ НА КОГО ГЛАВНОЕ ЗНАТЬ, ГДЕ ДОВЕРЯТЬ НЕ СТОИТ. ЧЕМ. НО КОГДА НАДО КЕМ НАДО ПРЕДСТАВИШЬСЯ, С КЕМ УГОДНО ДОГОВОРИШЬСЯ И ЧТО УГОДНО ДОСТАНЕШЬ. ИБО НЕТ ЦЕНЫ ДОПУСКАМ КОГДА ПРИНЦЫПЫ НАРУШАЮТСЯ, НАЧИНАЯ С МОРАЛЬНЫХ И НА ВСЕ-ПРО-ВСЕ ВЫТЕКАЮЩИЕ. И НАПОСЛЕДОК: ВИБ ПРОБОВАЛИ ЭТО КЛЕПАТЬ, А НЕ С ДИВАНОВ ТРЕНДЕТЬ.

[@Краснаямашина-р8ш]

А эта микросхема в какой стиральной Машине стоит?

[@78RSI]

Украденной в суржикстане!

[@ДжебКерман-е4м]

@@78RSI не украденной, а трофейной.

[@78RSI]

@@ДжебКерман-е4м Даже не трофейной, а присоединенной.

[@rzhevsky4934]

На этой стиралке изнacиLOVEали ни одну аксанку😂

[@MrGoloder]

В бюджетоотмывочной

[@sparkyy0007]

Amazing the chips they put in washing machines these days...

[@cdrom1070]

if they don't get the right shape of anything in there the design is fucked so if you deny a voltage regulator it will fail

[@ibotnet]

Это элементы стиральных машин, которые мы забираем у украины;)

[@GOLD-ei3qh]

What kind of washing machine they are taken from?

[@dimstr8714]

Fake? The "ТИУС-500" never used in weapons due to it big mass caused by its radiation resistance. It's a gyro for sattelites.

[@amk6266]

Well, not a single contry makes all the (even crucial) electronic components nowadays. So, considering that Russia has a market economy and not a plan economy anymore, it makes perfect sense. Since early 2000s it was simply cheaper to buy mass produced foreign FPGA chips. Many "Western-made" weapons also use ICs and components/materials made in many countries all around the globe. Even in 70s many logic chips in the US missles were "Made in Malaysia".

[@tomekmakulski7033]

3:52 "Optical coupler?" It's not an optical coupler but it's probably an BEAM SPLITER because it follows the theory of the fibre optic gyroscope. I may be wrong, let the wiser ones correct me...

[@russ18uk]

Hopefully the Altera part wasn't supplied directly by Intel!

[@mtrest4]

intel inside 👍 and apparently outside too.

[@ufukpolat3480]

First of all, there's no evidence that this was Russian manufactured. Secondly, these chips have been sold, resold and even cloned in various parts of the world for a while and the fact that it's an FPGA likely means it was used instead of a dedicated chip which could have been in short supply during those years when this unit was produced, perhaps even from spare parts left in a former Soviet state. I'm sure nobody uses FPGA parts these days because Russian military production has been steadily investing in domestic IC manufacturing capabilities as any nation deemed antagonistic by USA justifiably would.

[@cantorgauss]

@@ufukpolat3480 no. Russia has absolutely zero IC factories. Everything is imported.

[@woofkaf7724]

​​@@cantorgaussну тут вы не правы. Есть они. Только конечно не для гражданки. В бизнес и военным делают. Скорее мелочевку не делают.

[@rzhevsky4934]

​@@cantorgauss No. Вас обманули. В России около 10 заводов производящих микросхемы. Первая русская микросхема была представлена в 1964 году.

[@АлександрФедотов-в2ъ]

такой заказной пиздеж... небыло в этих годах в РФ таких систем...

[@dzv8799]

The first sensor is very interesting!

[@sentinel1064]

-Ukrainians are practical folk. "When your fate gives you a lemon, make some lemonadе from it"

[@filipamator]

Well it seems that this subject gathered a lot of russian trolls.

[@шляпик-и1м]

From what I know there are russian bot farms, they spread misinformation all over the internet

[@a3103-j7g]

ukrobot detected

[@jayc2469]

A Gyro with No Moving Parts! Designed to be able to handle Lots of G!

[@smert_okupantam]

0:37 "iskander" is a ballistic missile, not cruise missile.

[@ЗенЗубель]

Искандеры бывают баллистические и крылатые

[@pro-jecktbd6740]

@@ЗенЗубель так аффтар обозвал её крылатой, притом на картинке баллистическая 723-я, а речь идёт об обломках 727-й из Днепра

[@smert_okupantam]

@@ЗенЗубель не бывают

[@ЗенЗубель]

"Искандер - М" - применяет баллистические ракеты, "Искадер - К" - крылатые из пускового контейнера.

[@smert_okupantam]

@@ЗенЗубель "Искадер - К" применяет старые советские крылатые ракеты Р-500. так что это другая ракета.

[@poll1986]

great video, what is your experience? do you work in defence company ( Thales maybe )?

[@Vovkets]

сразу видно все вытащили из стиралок, микроволновок, сделай реверс инжиниринг собственного очка )

[@mjarefi]

hello friend. Can you also get kamikaze drone Shahid 136 UAV parts for teardown?

[@МихаилПрохоров-ь2е]

выяснили в каких стиральных машинах применяются эти чипы?

[@elektrikpco]

Ща пойду в своей lg гляну... Если что - сразу на фронт

[@ДмитрийПрокопьев-ш9з]

Буквально на днях у себя в стиралке такой же гироскоп менял))))

[@andreiminin4738]

Я свои стиралки давно сдал, все для фронта, все для победы!

[@alexeyl22]

а рашистские террористы от техас-инструментс каким-то образом взяли милитари-грейд компоненты? Что-то не видно милитари. Одни стиралки ворованные.

[@alexanderandreev7151]

Эх, жаль, у меня машинка немецкая, от неё не подходят.

[@joenicotera2991]

So we get to that level of technology and now we have Soviet missiles and aircraft that are actually capable of being effective. Mechanical gyros have all the same problems as any mechanical wrist watch...if you put a wrist watch in a drawer for a few years, it will probably work when you take it back out but it's not going to be accurate for long. So, now you take it out of the drawer and it's no different that if you allowed the children at the school adjust it for you, you have no idea what the contraption is going to do.

[@dovydaskaminskas4227]

Amost no russian parts in russian missiles.

[@amk6266]

Like if all the parts in the US missiles are actually from the USA, lol. No single contry does that anymore. Even in 70s many US chips were made and packaged in Malasya and so. I'm not even talking about simpler components.

[@DAVIDGREGORYKERR]

Someone needs to stop the Russians from getting any Gyroscopes and stop them getting GPS units so their missiles cannot tell where they are and come down in the wrong place.

[@uppner147]

Whenever I need a russian domesday missile laser gyro, I usually look for one on ebay first...

[@ЭффектДаннинга_Крюгера]

золото и платино содержащие детали отправители cпиzдили :)))

[@taipanua6598]

Ничего, кроме проводов, кцпсЬкого в етих блоках нет.

[@diggya1]

05:36 - it could be parts from the different rockets of the same type. there are no undamaged rockets of such type in ukraine

[@koopalad4]

super la vidéo 👍👍

[@paultardieu9182]

Do you have similar teardowns of Nato missiles parts?

[@lelabodemichel5162]

I have an optical sensor from Lantirn targeting Pod AN/AAQ-14 and also very interresting missile parts.

[@Funkbass1986]

В России не может быть таких деталей. Это детали из украинских стиральных машин. Так Урсула фон дер Ляйен сказала. 😂 Вы что, не верите своему правительству? В России ракет нет. Они кончились в мае 2022.

[@шляпик-и1м]

То что есть сделано на базе деталей из США, то что это видео наглядно показывает. Слава Украине!

[@шляпик-и1м]

@@littlerussianmax5831 что доказывает что рашка крадёт западные технологий

[@MrColins710]

@@littlerussianmax5831 доакзивает тот факт что россия обходит санции. и санкции нужно ужесточать чтоби ета террористчиеская клоака исчезла. Єто раковая опухоль, чума, абсолютное зло.

[@ИванИванов-з7п5ъ]

@@шляпик-и1м Уже давно пора кричать слава сша. Куда только смотрят ваши хозяева.))

[@amk6266]

@@шляпик-и1м Heil Ukraine, lol! Not a single contry can produce electronics nowadays using only their own components. Even in 70s many US rockets used logic chips "Made in Malasya". Economically speaking, such Altera-based FPGA solution was much more feasible since Russia switched to the market economy in 90s. Now, when the Russian high tech sector is sanctioned, they will start making their own FPGAs or simply will buy from other countries indirectly.

[@KokoroKatsura]

kitty!

[@RolandNSI]

All these parts were scavanged from washing machines belonging to old babuskas that take down those same missiles with pickle jars. This is what the european suprrme leader, miss 360° turn, baerbock, told us.

[@meotyda]

Haha so funny Come on, we all know that russia can't produce microchips by technology later than 1990, and those one in the rockets are bought from all over the world for oil and gas west paid dollars

[@txm100]

Are you having a stroke?

[@Янус_Ырт]

​@@meotyda did you ever hear about microchip company called MCST?

[@gianlucadm]

Dear friend, I tried to look for many missile components in old washing machines thrown into landfill 😄😄... but I believe that Western propaganda is the enemy of Westerners themselves.

[@gianlucadm]

@@txm100 he's referring to what Miss von der Leyen said...

[@olive_noire]

Avec le ronronnement du chat. Génial.

[@AlexanderGee]

You can see why they need western components so badly. Unless there is something truly special going on that huge ceramic DIP package for a simple analog multiplexer was already wildly out of date in 2004. I thought this missile was one of their newer designs?

[@advancedmicrosystems4658]

​@@ARSAMES007How does it matter if its classified? As soon as its used in battle someone can fetch it of the ground and look at it.

[@Cutycats9]

They have china lol so dont worry about components ❤

[@nazariimoroz6216]

@@advancedmicrosystems4658 You don't understand, the newer designs are so classified that the russians don't even use them in their war tech lmao, to keep their newer designs in secret the kremlin engineers don't even invent them, putin wins once again 🤣🤣🤣

[@SandorPipei]

The Altera Cyclone II FPGA is also obsolete for new designs. As you can see the fpga is also not a military grade one and you can find them in abundence on the chinese market at low cost. Also the lassers are manufactured by a chinese company called DenseLight. In other words they are not depending on western components.

[@volvo245]

Western components made in China, Korea, Japan, Taiwan and Malaysia. Yeah hey maybe keep coping with the washing machine nonsense too.

[@vig237]

This is from my washing machine, i gave it to the states they made rockets out of its chips...

[@pauljs75]

The IR sensor seems too specific in purpose to see much use and probably needs some special lens to go with it, but if the ring laser gyro has enough resolution that would be a neat piece of kit to back-engineer and have working on some kind of RC aircraft or drone. (Also wasn't the RLG something the U.S. shared with Russia as part of the agreement for joint operations in space? It's kind of funny to see it put on a weapon not long after they had access to it.)

[@domovoy_sych777]

его достали из ворованного тостера с украины

[@jenix102]

​@@domovoy_sych777а тостер произвели в китае по технологиям северной кореи... которые ей подарили русские в 1970х...

[@danobrien3601]

fibre laser gyros drift long term but a missile flight is not long term .. minutes

[@bobsnabby2298]

No western tech was used in this missile.... LOL... (sarcasm)

[@DanielVergeles]

thanks for hiding senders

[@alexanderbelkin5978]

Это контроллер от стиралки Индезит?

[@ИванИванов-з7п5ъ]

Индезит отстой. Это Вятка - автомат!!!

[@jenix102]

​@@ИванИванов-з7п5ъперемычку только вытащить, чтобы ток пошёл на плисину побольше, и тогда активируется военный режим работы (последний пуск)😂

[@ЛюсяШвец]

Фсе идеть по плану, стирать в проруби.