"Leaf Springs Don't Flex"

Taking the Toyota out for a shakedown after changing to a front spring-under leaf pack based on '95 pickup rear main leafs, along with power steering and a crossover drag link. As always, the trusty Shareokee for comparison.
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[@off-roadingexplained8417]

They might not flex quiet as good as coils but you don't seem to be having any problems lol. I actually love how simple leaf springs are. They are super simple and they solve a complicated problem.

[@jatomic7793]

The pizza planet truck. You need to get the decals and the fuckin ship on the roof

[@Drunken_Hamster]

Leaves on the front is wild to me, but I like it. And I like how it's also spring-under. That Cherokee did GOOD in 2wd, too. Driver mod is on point. As the saying goes "never use 4wd to get INTO something." Seeing stuff like this makes me want to wheel my ranger, but I'm on 27" road tires, 2wd, IFS, and broke AF.

[@iankovac1878]

I love the set up. Wish we could meet up so I can see your front suspension in person. I have had just about every configuration at some point, but no SPUA all SPOA. Very interesting :)

[@msbmotorsports]

Honestly the setup doesn't work very well on the street - the front half of the spring is very short and makes a steep angle, giving poor break dive characteristics. As well the combination of the slinky spring and long shackle makes the axle underconstrained side to side. I'm going to be replacing this setup with a leading arm 3 link and airbags at some point, I may make a video about it.

[@iankovac1878]

@@msbmotorsports I am in Colorado Springs and have a 83 myself. I have had many after market suspension types and they all brake dive like crazy Trail Gear, All Pro, my buddies home made CAD links. I am just saying I would love to see before you change it. If you can find it in your heart to help a fellow old toyota nerd, BTW this is my 15th 80's toyota so lol.

[@rollingedges9469]

Very flexy!💪

[@msbmotorsports]

thanks you too!

[@Sinister_Reaper]

Love leaf springs, can wheel and haul a load, good set of bump stops, shackles, hangers, springs, shocks and torque arms keeps right up with 4 links

[@rkd350z]

have 54" gm leafs in the front and 63" in the rear of my 87 4runner. it flexes good, I need to chop off more body in the rear to accommodate all the flex w 37" tire

[@jesusakadice]

How did you end up choosing the 54" gm leafs? What car did they come off of? I'm in the process of installing the 63s on my 87 4runner and I am trying to figure out the front (sold front axle). Everything I've read says to install the rear leafs in the front. But mine are broken

[@rkd350z]

@@jesusakadice 1991 v20 suburban rear leafs. I’m sure other square body trucks use 54” springs too.

[@merritts3515]

They do great at an off road crawl, but im tires of the ride on road, or going Down a gravel road at any speed.

[@vancitylurker]

What front leafs are you running?

[@msbmotorsports]

It's in the description my friend

[@Jon-ko3vv]

That xj needs a shackle relocation

[@msbmotorsports]

Why?

[@Jon-ko3vv]

@@msbmotorsports its pretty close to 90*. There's a bunch of info on YT for it. Probably super stiff in the back rides like a hay wagon. I had to do a shackle relocation to mine, much smother ride and way more flex.

[@msbmotorsports]

@@Jon-ko3vv You would be right if it had a highly curved spring like the toyota. However it has a flat spring that hardly changes length over the range of articulation, you can see this in the video. In this case, a shackle near 90 degrees to the frame is fine and does actually provide the softest ride. The measurement I consider important with shackle geometry is to have the angle between the shackle and the thrust direction of the leaf (typically along the length of the spring near the eye) to be 90 degrees so that as the spring pushes or pulls on the shackle, no portion of the load is transferred through the shackle as a compression or tension force.

[@Jon-ko3vv]

@@msbmotorsports 👍

[@reeceauban7144]

Do you have an Instagram? Got a few questions about the 95 Toyota front springs.

[@msbmotorsports]

@a1gemmel

[@msbmotorsports]

If you requested me I think I fat-fingered it away😆