Leafs Cut Ties with Sheldon Keefe | Real Kyper & Bourne Full Episode

[@gameburn178]

Tocchet is the new gold standard for coaches. (1) He's an ex-player -- fairly elite when he played, not a grinder -- (2) he's interested in bringing in more coaches than previous to help (Sedins, Foote, Gonchar, etc.,); (3) he works very closely with management in assessing players/trading for new players, etc., (4) progressive ideas, and fairly demanding. (5) expanded his office space so that more people could converse after games, and stuff like that. (6) brought players and mgt in weeks ahead of schedule to prepare for a good start. Good starts build morale and confidence. (7) he seems to have helped build a team that plays the same way whatever the score is. No defensive shell b.s., no panic.

[@georgebent8540]

I think the fan base would love to have a 3 time cup winning coach

[@sens4518]

Hey Sammy think of this, every major trade you wished Brad did this year....was for players from Calgary, you loved Tanev, you loved Zadorov, you like Markstrom and Andersson. Ever think Brad constructed that team? He is cooking, he signed a bunch of short contracts you can see he was buying time, and giving a few tests. He has the results and now some money so gotta give him time. In the end you want him to bring here what he brought to Calgary, which is recognition of his GM knowledge. He saw the team, met them, knew they could not win and needed to buy time to free contracts...Cook Tree cook, the temp is up

[@Kerwonderful]

Well said.

[@oscarrundsztuk2149]

His video is Oakville lakefront

[@TheeLastCossack]

lol 12 mill for Marner. Kipper on the payroll

[@derekjohnsimpson1365]

Isn’t Jon Cooper available? I’d love to see that guy behind the Leafs bench.

[@DigitalNomadInvestor]

He signed an extension with Tampa. I see him going to the Wings before the Leafs. Reunite with Yzerman and get a fat contract.

[@MrNicolas61]

1. Joel Quennville 2. Berube 3. McLennan Are my top three picks in order.

[@CrimsonicStorm]

Swap McLellan with Gallant and thats my 3.

[@ThePalisky]

@@CrimsonicStorm same

[@ilfautdanser9121]

you mean McLellan?

[@JamesJohnson-sv6dd]

Quenville has too much baggage ...he will be hounded by the media on what happened because he hasn't explained anything to Betman

[@mmcirish1309]

ALL 3 of those DUDES are BABS 2.0 😂😂

[@HandShakeLineRespect]

Now it’s time to get rid of Kyper’s boy Marner.

[@segasys1339]

Marner to Pitt for Karlsson is happening book it pp will be gangbusters

[@odonaldcoaker6892]

Id like to know why nobody knows what Brendan Shannahan does ...or what input he has on decision making. He is there 10yrs with one playoff win .

[@Kerwonderful]

He runs the Leafs corporation. There is a lot to do as a president of a company. P&L is amongst his biggest responsibilities.

[@Michael-pg7rv]

"His version of heaven" is the best way to describe that video.

[@donaldcampbell6107]

Mistake and Sheldon’s approach to coaching the leafs was that he didn’t turn them into the defensive team that they should have until the final three games of the playoffs. Those games proof that he knows what he’s doing he just didn’t want them to play that way through the season or they weren’t willing to play that way through the season.. personally I think with all of his decision-making flaws that we’ve all witnessed he’s a pretty darn good coach and very successful one

[@Chillin24Seven]

1 for 21 on the power play in the playoffs and they were 25th in the league on the penalty kill. This isn’t a mistake it’s long overdue.

[@dwightropp3014]

Yes, it was truly strange that he wasn't able to bring that high level of defensive play out of them until the last three games, which was impressive to see, even if it still wasn't enough. But they were just that one goal from advancing to the next round, and if they would have done so, I'm curious, how far do you think they would have had to go before he would have been kept on as coach? They likely would have had to win that next round as well and get to at least the conference final for him to have kept his job. Would you agree?

[@josephfitzgard6277]

Nick, why don't you apply for the coaching position?

[@danielhansen9203]

LOL he’d play his little boy Mitch 30 minutes a game.

[@dmj8616]

Even Tavares as Captain. Hands down the most timid captain in the League. Absolutely ZERO fight in his game. ZERO. I would even argue Matthews isn't the right personality to captain a NHL team to a Stanley Cup Championship.

[@toasty862]

Matthews would be the only guy worse than JT. Except Marner lol. 3 of these guys on the one team.

[@DigitalNomadInvestor]

Larkin is damn soft too.

[@p.stephens9305]

QUENNEVILLE

[@pjpredhomme7699]

the only call to make

[@phils6733]

Quenneville knows how to deal with talent and make teams better, he has the history of winning with chicago…gotta go with success anything less would be back peddling

[@KlMl]

Rumor in Finland: Jukka Jalonen🍁🏒👔

[@mgh3380]

More talk about Pelley, please. I'm a huge golf fan, love European golf. I'm pretty familiar with Pelley. He doesn't exude "hockiness" to me. Can we go into a deeper dive on why he's running our beloved Leafs now, cheers. Love the show.

[@dean7811]

Canucks talk actually starts at 1:05:10

[@silentpulls7447]

Makes sense since first hr is leafs hr always lol

[@dimer1729]

No one cares

[@dean7811]

@@dimer1729 Canucks fans care. Thanks for coming out :)

[@gavinelliot8253]

@@dean7811 lol its leafs hour... then national hour....

[@bladge8456]

@@gavinelliot8253why is it Leafs hour? They're golfing. Who the f cares about the Leafs now hahaha

[@nickranorealestate1988]

Stop over thinking who should be the best fit for the coaching job and go after the best in the business...Joel Quenneville!!

[@komokaholic]

Like him as the coach

[@koshka02]

Imagine the problem was coaching all along, and we get into the playoffs again (with Mitch still on the team), and he's a big part of us getting into the Stanley Cup Finals or something. I feel like the talent is there, but he's not being utilized correctly (which the same could have been said of Hyman and Kadri).

[@phils6733]

I agree and it is possible, I thought they had a solid team this year, physical and all, but couldn’t get it done. Hyman is scoring goals because of McDavid, let’s be real! I think hyman is a really hard working hockey player…but let’s remember Connor brown was also a super star in the OHL playing on the same line as mcdavid. Hyman is not an elite goal scorer with out mcdavid 😂

[@mmcirish1309]

PHIL KESSEL

[@dizk8488]

Keep imagining. It's not Keefe's fault Marner is scared of physicality or refuses to adapt his game to the playoffs and also wants that massive contract.

[@Fadder90]

MLSE needs to haul their head out of their arse. Q IS THE ANSWER. He got it done multiple times with elite players.

[@TOOL-22]

Keefe in Leafs Robidas Island 🏝 😂🤣 Assuming Marner will waive i would do whatever it takes to get Saros & Schenn out of Nsh for Marner & Liligren. Toronto cam hire whoever but unless they have a true #1 goalie & 2 top dman they ain't going anywhere just like they are now. Leafs of old had Belfour, Cujo, Potvin These current Leafs have average to mediocre goalies who always give up the goals at the worst time. Toronto get a friggen #1 GOALIE!! Saros is there Askarov is the goalie of the future for Nsh do w.e it takes to get SAROS & SCHENN we know fits perfectly in T.O

[@jimarcher7665]

Coach #2 that Mitch got fired

[@ronsingh6521]

Quenneville is the best choice.

[@Robb912]

Under Keefe The Leafs got point in .714% rate.... his walking away package is $6,000,000

[@ScottHowley]

One talking head said SK’s 2 years was just under $3M. Nick says I was 2 x $4M. Are coaches contracts paid out over the remainder of the contract at 65%? Regardless, 65% of $4M or $6M is still a nice chunk-o-cheese.

[@seangaudet4742]

Quenneville best man for the job!

[@sachads5322]

With Coach Q, the questions are: what has he learned? Has he done the work? Has he spoken to Kyle Beach? If those questions can be answered, and answered well, then question then becomes how do we, as a culture and a society, view redemption? Do we really believe people can change? Do we believe in forgiveness and self improvement? It’s a deep social question. If we want to be the type of society that people can make mistakes and learn and grow, and he has done the work, hire him. If not, don’t. Not worth the headache. If he’s done the work, I’m all for it.

[@OkayRocket30660]

Yeah. A public apology would be a start.

[@seangaudet4742]

Keefe most likely knew at Monday presser

[@doubledee6234]

If I were Brad Treliving, I would explore the trade option for sure. The leafs could get a gritty forward and a good defensemen

[@johnathonstewart6666]

The Leafs were never a dump and chase team under Babcocks. Did you guys even watch the games or just read headlines?

[@BHRren]

You guys hit the nail on the head .You dont have to get VALUE in a Marner trade .The VALUE is the cap space you gain .As long as the LEafs have $13-$14M in cap room in the summer of 2026 to sign McDavid as a UFA .A 29 Year old Mathews ,A 29 year old McDavid and a 30 year old WIllie .Tavares will be off the books so they can sign 2 more $5M d men .You will have a 27 year old Woll ,a 31 year old Domi a 23 year old Knies ,22 year old Minten and 22 year old Cowan that will be on ELC still .Looks like a Stanely Cup contender ( on paper ) to me

[@doinitforfun888]

It could be a bidding war for Berube,Brind amour, Gallant. I don't see Brad waiting too long to offer one of them a potential 3 year contract. Brad could also offer contracts to Domi and Eddy they had great playoff runs.

[@ColdTakes585]

I’m sorry but how tf is Marner a top paid guy when he hasn’t even hit 100 yet?? He may be a 100 point guy, but to get paid what he does I want a guy that ACTUALLY GETS 100 and that can push play and dominate a game by himself for Christ sake

[@BigH0mie89]

Whether he hits 100 or not. He still plays in all key situations. PP, PK, etc. Hence why his value is high.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Good guy good coach 😁🇨🇦🔥

[@06rtm]

Keefe wrote that two years ago and has just been waiting to use it

[@player9117]

Need a coach, not for hockey players , but for hockey gods!

[@JM-kp5xv]

What about Barry Trotz?

[@jotu2274]

Q is the best pic. If he is truly rehabilitated whatever that means does that not mean anything

[@jeffreyosborne4834]

Question….What did the Leafs and AM discuss about Marner before AM Signed .

[@jeffreyosborne4834]

Might have something signed and agreed to is what I am saying.

[@alexrowdyrodrigues9716]

Honestly, the way that Treliving likes building his teams by focusing on defense first, it seems right up Todd McLellan's alley, and he coaches with an extremely similar style but he is also really good when it comes to rush chances and offensive opportunities on 5 on 5 play so tbh.... I could see McLellan being hired over Berube. The nuclear option is Coach Q, and I don't know if the Leafs would legitimately go that route but if they did..... oh boy.

[@JoesDragons]

Agreed. Those Sharks teams under him were so heavy and fun to watch in the playoffs. I used to watch the Leafs then watch the Sharks every chance I got and it was checkers(Leafs) and the Sharks were playing chess. Big boy hockey.

[@alexrowdyrodrigues9716]

@JoesDragons and that's what I'm thinking as well. If the Leafs can look and play like the late 2000s Sharks, but with better results, I will jump in that pool! Now who would be our Nabokov / Niemi?

[@JoesDragons]

@@alexrowdyrodrigues9716 I could see Wollseph being that guy. That's the ideal scenario really. Otherwise it's an overpay to get a Markstrom(too old) Saros (too expensive) Ullmark unlikely being in the East. I'm hoping they get a couple solid d-men that can make any goalie look good. Edmunson and Lybushkin were pretty good I'd be happy to keep one or both.

[@alexrowdyrodrigues9716]

@@JoesDragons I was thinking that Jake Allen or Cam Talbot might be the tandem partner for Woll with maybe Jones coming back to be the 3rd stringer IMO

[@judistzoinkiski3395]

Gallant is better than Berube- some hockey twitter guy. im taking Woodcroft a guy who has made it past the 2nd round more times than berube and Keefe, Frank ignores the fact that Woodcroft is also there but no thanks on Todd.

[@Chillin24Seven]

Did you not see what Woodcroft did to the Oilers? Woodcroft is the worst coach available.

[@pjhj3687]

Whichever team eventually signs Marner will find themselves in the same poredicament as the Leafs: a 10 million plus player who under-performs in the playoffs.

[@appletile2887]

If the Leafs mgmt really are genuine in wanting to win a Stanley Cup take a page from the history of the Montreal Canadiens from the year they upset the record wrecking Boston Bruins of 1970-71. They hired a INTERIM coach named Al McNeil. His approach was only aimed at winning a Stanley Cup. He would use the regular season to train his team to play on any line with any players. If a player did not produce he was benched or saw few minutes. He just wanted enough points to make the playoffs. He wanted to teach the players how to play through adversity. He wanted to make the players uncomfortable all season long, he wanted his players to grow grit. He had no fixed lines, he evaluated his players during the regular season. He was honest with his players about his approach. He told them he only wanted to have the players win the Stanley Cup. Montreal made one trade for Frank Mahovolich and brought up a young big goaltender from college who played 6 games allowing only 9 goals. He never played the Orr led Bruins. Montreal won the series against Boston in 7 games on the road. Dryden won the Conn Symth trophy and a Stanley Cup. The French press forced Al McNeil to be replaced because he didn't speak French even though he guided his team to a Cup. This could never work in Toronto, the fans don't want to go through the pain of a so so season to win a Stanley Cup

[@sabref4i290]

I have it on good Authority. The Sabres were interested in Joel Quinville and they were told flat out he will not be available to coach in the NHL for the foreseeable future

[@willyupshaw]

Thanks. You keep working those phones and update us on any new developments.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Damn 😂shots fired 🔥🇨🇦

[@bmf60118]

As a former Chicago fan hiring Quenneville would turn me away from Toronto as well.

[@jeffsframe9927]

Sit on the couch ! Obviously the correct answer.

[@thomasyorke1897]

Another move that I question is the right move to make.Not saying r or w.Personally,inthink if he didn't make the Eastern final he was gone anyway.Middle of season,Berube was already on peoples lips.Good luck and Thank you Sheldon,for all your service it's too bad their has to be scapegoats in sports,but that's how she goes,How long before Shanahan goes,he should have been shelved first what has he done in his tenure as Leaf high brass absolutly nothing that's what.

[@gdavho8778]

Kyle Dubas was at the top of the thank you list.

[@ProggaWoggga]

Could see Keefe behind the bench in either Ottawa or LA next season. Maybe SJ - although not sure he would want that job.

[@kevvymetal666]

Ottawa hired Green

[@kevvymetal666]

I'm yet to see a single discussion about this series outside Vancouver that gives the Canucks any credit. Sorry, but they're going to be the lone Canadian team. Canucks in 6

[@gwapogreg5837]

He is actually the winningest coach the lady 4 years

[@gwapogreg5837]

@@AK-ix6xg I'm not your bro but you are correct but teams look at how much they make selling regular season tickets and that makes the owners money and no one has won as many regular season games the last 5 years It's fans like us that care about the playoffs .He finally changed his coaching style in the last half if this season but it should have been done a few years ago and especially as you said after the Montreal collapse.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

We do good work 😁🇨🇦

[@stephenkinsella4009]

Keefe it’s probably very bittersweet! But you had a the most potent offensive team in the NHL any competent coach that knows how to motivate there team !

[@gameburn178]

Vancouver didn't play up to their usual standard that first game. They will improve. Goaltending and team defense -- and overall readiness -- was nowhere near the level they were at with Nashville. Their intensity, team press and work on faceoffs was excellent though, so that kind of made up for some of the failings. The idea that Edmonton lost rather Vancouver winning is a bit of a problem in this whole discussion. Edmonton got off to a poor start in October and November because they were vulnerable -- both emotionally and because of holes in their lineup. Although they played well enough to make the playoffs, they still have some of those vulnerabilities. Not at all a given that Edmonton is the favorite in this series.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Life's a kick in the ass sometimes 🇨🇦🇺🇸😁

[@jamesknoop1265]

No teleprompter?? Very media savvy

[@3cs3hs]

here for Sammy!!

[@gregthomson7889]

That is a lake not an ocean.Also he thanked Dubas I think it's his next boss.

[@SedatKulafofski-eh5pc]

Leaf fans like their superstars to be working class heroes. Matthews gets a pass for his singular skill at scoring, but Marner will never be appreciated or accepted by anyone over 12 years old.

[@arcadiablue9078]

I'm still an absolute no on Quennville coming back. As a Blues fan also, I'm not sure Berube is the right fit either though. This is a tough call.

[@morris1345]

Skip to 29:10 & watch Kyper's face when he gets triggered by Sammy saying he doesn't love Marner. Guy is clearly way too close and intertwined with the Marner camp to contribute objectively to this discussion.

[@robbryce4884]

Unless Marner and Tavares go, this team is going nowhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@gordonbgraham]

@@AK-ix6xg Neither *is

[@robertsimeon9177]

Hiring Mclellen would be replacing Keef with another Keef, remember that always awesome Sharks team that never could take the next step?

[@wizwaz5529]

Craig Simpson, BOOTLICKER supreme of MLSE!

[@PabloGonzalez-hv3td]

It's becoming cup or lose your job in Toronto. What coach wants that kind of stress in their lives.

[@pjpredhomme7699]

What ???? they have won 1 playoff series in 8 yrs !!!!

[@phils6733]

Cup or lose? nobody has lost thier job before the 4 year mark 😂 if anything they give these guys too much time…shanahan going on 11 years with 1 round won…this team is the safest in the business

[@PabloGonzalez-hv3td]

@@phils6733 Keefe coached Marner to a franchise point streak record. Matthews into the NHL leading goal scorer and got as far as the 04 team which doesn't even have the same rules as modern hockey. 1 single goal awal from handing the Bruins a historic comeback loss. Only the 93 Leafs went farther than Keefe. The only thing he didn't win was a cup.

[@RobFazekas-ky2ow]

Berube head coach Gilmour Clark Roberts as his assistants

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Keafs need another minute 🇨🇦😄

[@MJ9ECL]

Truly think this show is awesome, great dialogue and not afraid to broach interesting subjects and not surface level conversation. I really wish Bourne wasn't on here though, guy has nothing to offer and is so corny. I don't know if that his schtick or if its real but its hard to listen to Anyways very good show, thanks for the pod

[@BHRren]

yes Keefe is a very nice guy -and this the primary reason he failed as coach here .Never calling out his player ,Always blaming the referees instead of calling out his stars .The Leafs need a coach who will be a complete A _ hole and hold these players accountable .The message should be clear from his 1st day .WHETHER YOUR NAME IS AUSTIN MATHEWS OR DAIVID KAMPF ,YOU PLAY HARD OR YOU SIT IN THE PRESS BOX .NO NIGHTS OFF .PERIOD !!!!

[@owenbell852]

The three birds that exited stage left at the 9:10 mark: Dubas, now Keefe, and soon the next little faker

[@deadlydadgaming126]

It really miffs me that Shanahan only really speaks once a year. We don't know how much influence he has on roster decisions. If he has a lot or any input he should be a little bit more public facing. But instead he hides behind his GM and never speaks. Really baffling that he still has free reign to do whatever he wants and not have to answer for it.

[@Hereatthebeach2018]

Water in background ? R u serious?

[@jamesnewman48]

Keefe should be pumped. He'll be coaching again soon enough

[@robotba89]

I will never think Sheldon is a bad guy.

[@Capo51]

There is a big possibility that the next coach fails too. Because they have too many, 4 big eggs, in the same 'basket'. Those players eat almost half of the cake. Thats far too much. Bad strategy choice too. In play offs these four offensive players can be taken off. Anf after them they dont have anyone else left to make the necessary goals needed. Sorry. And they have a headache, whome they choose. Risk exists.

[@rossjackson2929]

Kyper what do you mean when he coached at his best in last 6 weeks? Lost badly in last 2 weeks 5 or 6 games of season, when teams are motivated to make playoffs. Knew they were toast then. Keefe was a good coach, but top 3 players are uncoachable. Same attitude toward playoffs every year. They don't want to play in playoffs. You can see it in their words after games they blow. Rest of team played hard .... they wanted to be coached.

[@meelosh92]

Go Canucks Go

[@paulatherton6851]

Where in the hell do see this as being sappy he`s being honest and was a great leader. Yes i agree a new voice is needed but come on guys he did what he could with what he had to work with 4 effin guys took up an awful lot of cap space that some on that could have been used on 4 or 5 million dollars players with heart and grit.

[@peterlue9274]

Why does this Marner stuff sound like Courtnall for Kordic? The media decided that no one wanted Courtnall and all we could get for him was John Kordic. At least marner is highly likely to win a cup because Kadri, Kessel etc. These guys who can't win cups and get run out of town have an incredible record of winning cups.

[@austinjuby5716]

We already have a stud d cade webber 67 220

[@joeford5181]

Prepare another choke.... Sheldon might have a cup with Detroit or Utah.

[@leafsruleall]

Thank God

[@rickrobitaille8809]

But we all can rise again 🇨🇦🇺🇸😁

[@BaneOfV]

I mean, the leafs need cap, they have to trade marner or tavares. They NEED to sign max and tyler again. While getting a RD in the trade

[@SylvainCote-d3k]

what do you think of Dale Hunter

[@JamieJohnston-n7i]

Calling it now, running it back under a new coach…yehaww

[@JamieJohnston-n7i]

@@AK-ix6xg fair…but still not loving the idea of seeing it played back yet again

[@marc-antoinebernier5771]

Last game of the regular season, Matthews blindly banked the puck in his zone, giving a perfect scoring chance to Tkachuk all alone in the slot. Keefe should have benched him. That’s when he lost his job.

[@amc3964]

Disgrace! The Leafs did great this year! Two top players out and we didn’t advance over ONE goal! Could have gone either way. The management is wrong. They should have left the team together for next year!! Wow! Disgraceful! I wish Okeefe the best- really like him as coach! They made a massive emotional mistake.

[@craigstockdale6968]

Joel Quenneville should be no debate about it.

[@BaneOfV]

Can Keefe be hired to a different organization such as the penguins, in a different position, that will still make the leafs have to pay him as a head coach? If so, don't you think dubas would do that in a heartbeat?

[@cbi-ju5mi]

I think if the penguins hired him, they would have to take over the contract even if he was a stick boy…

[@BaneOfV]

@@cbi-ju5mi that's fairly disappointing, and almost a guarantee that he has a nice vacation 🤣

[@ranger2055]

Sheldon is a class act! I wish him well where ever he goes!! You guys are idiots for making light of it!!!!

[@matth268]

Kuznetsov would love to play for the powder.

[@LordofFunk11]

It's the Shanaplan - Not the Keefe, or Dubas plan. Not dealing with the actual problem. Perfect, keep Toronto-ing.

[@blackvegetablesounds6498]

I know you guys will find this hard to believe... But people in Vancouver are not watching what is going on in Toronto today. Regardless of it's chuckleworthiness. :)

[@disinformationworld9378]

Ok loser. Enjoy your playoff elimination for the team that no one cares about or will watch. Cause your team isn’t winning anything this year. Whether this round or next enjoy your final games.

[@Mephitixify]

More people will tune in for leafs news than watch the cannucks play. Sorry

[@blackvegetablesounds6498]

@@Mephitixify Oh don't be silly.... leaf fans are all watching baseball now.

[@victormarryatt]

good bye bye good ... BERUBE YES ...

[@nicholasbjj9472]

Marner with 50% retention for ekblad. Do it zito why not

[@BigWyatt]

Niiiccee back to our regularly scheduled programming! Thanks for the quick upload bois ;)

[@ScottHowley]

TML announce Sheldon’s firing and say the will “immediately” start looking for a new coach. They made no search efforts anytime before they fired Sheldon? Really? 😂 That’s hilarious. My guess is they had multiple conversations with multiple candidates during the regular season. Thats just a guess. I am first to admit, I know zip about running an NHL team. However, to think or believe the search for a new coach started after Sheldon was relieved of his coaching duties is naive, maybe even silly.