Leafs Exit Grades and What Comes Next with James Mirtle

Leafs Exit Grades and What Comes Next with James Mirtle | JD Bunkis Podcast

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@orkinn 6 ай бұрын

Until fans boycott games and stop paying extortion prices to watch games, this will never change. Boycotts work, when you hit their bottom line, they are forced to listen to the fans. I’m a die hard Leafs fan for decades, stopped going to games and buying merchandise, saving money and time on useless games that in the long run make money for everyone else except me. Especially for a product that isn’t worth it.

@80sLover329 6 ай бұрын

Watch - nothing will change. Except maybe Keefe being fired… which won’t move the needle. It doesn’t matter who coaches this team. This core four/five - you cannot win with them for multiple reasons… not the least of which is having half your cap hit being eaten up by playoff non performers.

@Tiglath-PileserXIX 6 ай бұрын

Mitch will never leave the Leafs. He just said he was treated like a "God". Who would ever say no to being a God?

@marcob6880 6 ай бұрын

He said the fans treat us like God,

@Tiglath-PileserXIX 6 ай бұрын

@@marcob6880 Like I said, he was treated like a God. He liked being treated like a God. Wouldn't you like to be treated like a God? All Hail the Mighty Mitch!

@marcob6880 6 ай бұрын

@@Tiglath-PileserXIX What Mitch said was is that the "players are looked upon as gods and they(the fans) really love us" listen to his interview again, he DID NOT SAY HE WAS A GOD, stop spreading internet nonsense

@Tiglath-PileserXIX 6 ай бұрын

@@marcob6880 Absolutely agree with you. He didn't say he was a God. He said he was treated like a God. Even marcob6880 said so ... wait ... that's you. Enuf said.

@marcob6880 6 ай бұрын

@Tiglath-PileserXIX the only question I have is how it's his fault that for the most part a lot of LeaFs fans are delusional?

@eddy5097 6 ай бұрын

I just loved Kampfs hustle and ability to put pressure on the opposing team to me he's a keeper

@andreacasale4486 6 ай бұрын

as a leaf fan, I love watching the regular season and have no expectations for the playoffs.....how happy would we be watching a team that plays the trap....

@AlexMC333 6 ай бұрын

34 has underperformed equally (or you can say even worse, since he’s the team’s best player) in the postseasons, yet he’s flying under the radar. I hope once Marner leaves, the media will dare to hold Matthews accountable. He can’t just be a regular season superstar

@strictlyroots7343 6 ай бұрын

Marner has become the scapegoat. Fans think it's all his fault. Thankfully GM's never listen to fans.

@aaronbenhaggai973 6 ай бұрын

The coach needs to go as well as management

@MussellRartin 6 ай бұрын

watch the leafs bring in Dominique “Dom” Ducharme 😂

@johnnymacnyc 6 ай бұрын

Buy Mitch and Tavares out and move on - if they won’t wave. They each have 1 year to go. Both of them get giant bonuses on July 1st - then their salaries are cheap. Tavares would cost $303,333 this year and next, while Marner would cost $258,333 this year and next. you'd actually save a little less than a million bucks next year. You’re stuck with their cap hits next year no matter what. But you’d be able to go and get two better contributors and test them in big roles by spending Brodie & Samsonov money to pay them - then the following year, you’d have almost $25M in cap space to continue the progress they’d move on with next year. I’d rather pay them all the money now and be able to move forward and find better, long term solutions starting next season - rip the expensive bandaids off ASAP - if you don’t expect either one to be on the team in 2026

@marcob6880 6 ай бұрын

Smart!

@GB-ob5zx 6 ай бұрын

Mitch. It’s the centre of hockey. Storied franchise

@Sir_Godz 6 ай бұрын

mitch thinks he is the centre of hockey

@MmmM-bl7ih 6 ай бұрын

@@Sir_Godzworst. Mitch thinks he’s a god.

@otokodate83 6 ай бұрын

"Rehearsal" is what you have done leading up to this perfect performance

@jimlangdon1947 6 ай бұрын

Mitch Marner - back checking all the way back to his own net in OT: Mark is a fail- F {Why did Mitch from the blue line - just watch his check cross in front of the Leaf net to score in OT?}

@jimlangdon1947 6 ай бұрын

@@RobertRaz-j2e In a way - it might be a Leaf Coaching error partially

@deanjohnston137 6 ай бұрын

Imagine you are one of those leafs, that worked their ass off to get back in to the series. Now you are watching your teammate look over at the eventual series ending goal scorer, skate right past him. Is that someone you want on your team? Team mates and fans are tired of that.

@jimlangdon1947 6 ай бұрын

@@deanjohnston137 Mitch would be more respected if he owed up to his screw up right after game 7. Instead he pushed Sammy & Morgan under the bus. If Mitch was my teammate - my wish is that he only plays in regular season games.

@deanjohnston137 6 ай бұрын

Yes, exactly. He took no ownership of his lackadaisical play. But this has gone on for the last 8 years in the playoffs. The problem has never been defense or goaltending in the playoffs. The have done a great job keeping games close. However it’s the core of this team that has not come through in the big moments. Especially Mitch Marner.

@jimlangdon1947 6 ай бұрын

@@deanjohnston137 My view is Matthews likely is an elite playoff winger. But at Centre Matthews is a playoff nobody. Matthews weak passing skills only generate about 33% assists of the current top 25 NHL assist leaders. Your first line Centre can’t be that poor at generating assists come playoffs. 😀

@milkers7919 6 ай бұрын

How you should really look at the playoff losses, since the hope and expectation is the Stanley cup, is that every round you dont win is a loss. This includes the rounds after the 1st round. If the expectation was that you would win 4 rounds and you dont win any, then you've lost 4 rounds. That brings their record to 1/33 in 8 years with the Columbus loss.

@timothyboyle1908 6 ай бұрын

It’s crazy to think they would Extend Mitch and keep the coach. This teams mental lol.

@klausschraud7303 6 ай бұрын

What do expect, they aren’t going to say anything negative about there teammates , it’s been 8 years changes must be happen if don’t expect anything different next season

@vladahermansky710 6 ай бұрын

Going back with the same four guys is insane but of course it would be funny if thats what gonna happen in the end

@ratedRblazin420 6 ай бұрын

I don't see Tavares or Marner waiving their NMC and since Shanahan's got one year left on his deal I see them running it back one more time until they can get rid of Tavares' $11 Million, Marner's contract, and not renew Shanahan's deal.

@Tiglath-PileserXIX 6 ай бұрын

When these players are treated like Gods, good luck getting them to waiving their NMC.

@MussellRartin 6 ай бұрын

Yeah only keefe is leaving this team this year. All the arm chair gms here and in TO are fooling themselves expecting these guys to waive their nmc's to help the leafs

@RayManzarekRocks 6 ай бұрын

Bunkis is a spoiled fanboy who has a hissy fit when things don't go his way. A lot of hockey markets would love to have a team as talented and successful as the TML in the regular season even if it doesn't translate to great postseason success. At least Sammy takes it like a man once in a while.

@HandShakeLineRespect 6 ай бұрын

You’re satisfied with losing. You’re a superficial fan. The regular season is your Stanley Cup.

@RayManzarekRocks 6 ай бұрын

@@HandShakeLineRespect TML fans and media are entitled snobs. That's why they're so universally hated. And why so many talented players want no part of the toxic culture.

@RayManzarekRocks 6 ай бұрын

@@HandShakeLineRespect Maple Leafs fans and media are entitled snobs. That's why they're so despised universally. And why so many talented athletes want no part of the toxic culture there.

@RayManzarekRocks 4 ай бұрын

@SF1886 A lot of people have never seen their home team win a championship. Are they entitled, too?

@sergiochiodo6513 6 ай бұрын

The shanny plan is exactly what he has delivered, make the playoffs every year and have a chance.

@stratigf 6 ай бұрын

Why can’t you give him a contract, but refuse to give him a NMC and do a 10 - 15 team.

@RG-lr4pk 6 ай бұрын

Leafs have weak ownership and management.

@stevegriffiths8906 6 ай бұрын

Why is JD dressed like it's January?

@MussellRartin 6 ай бұрын

Rogers trying to pinch pennies on utilities to help pay for the dome renos

@marcob6880 6 ай бұрын

Hip hop giant

@SirDangalot 6 ай бұрын

JD, great show as always. James is always a great guest too...As I'm sitting here amazed that the Leafs weren't eliminated in 5 games, I'm thinking they're going to do absolutely nothing at Friday's presser other than possibly get rid of Keefe (and I have my doubts about that). The reason I say this is because the precedent has already been set by the Toronto Blue Jays last year. They piddled through last season letting the children run the asylum. Then they perform the cu**ter**ck of the decade and pull a pitcher that was throwing fire early in the last game of their season. What did they do after that nightmare? Pretty much nothing. And guess what? Everybody's back to watch the Blue Jays with nary a word being said. Back to the Leafs...A good percentage of Leafs's's's (sorry, didn't know when to stop) season's tickets are held by corporations, so they're not going away, and the rest of us will gladly line up to overpay to see one or possibly two games a year, because that's all we can afford (are the beers over $20 apiece yet?). If they do anything, some of the lower level people may go, but I think the "shittaplan" maybe around for another year... Keep up the great work.

@gregthomson7889 6 ай бұрын

And what was the score in the Boston Florida game last night ? hhmm.

@schmingusss 6 ай бұрын

Exactly. The Leafs are a VERY good team. One lucky bounce and it would have been the Leafs pummeling Florida last night.

@KennethMoyer-t3y 6 ай бұрын

The defense does not have a true #1 stud defenceman that a Cup challenging team traditionally needs. Think Makar, Hedman etc. Their special teams systems are not working. They are at least 2 years away from challenging for a Cup.

@kingghidorah4191 6 ай бұрын

Mitch put a list of 5 teams or you're on the 4th line and you get 4th line minutes

@dave9863 6 ай бұрын

Bunkis!!! We need to talk about removing the "C" from JT and putting it on Austin.

@jman75234 6 ай бұрын

hes also a loser

@chrisorrell3066 6 ай бұрын

I don’t think I’d put it on him either. I don’t know who but I really don’t think he’s ready either, maybe I’m wrong. It’s nice to give it to the best goal scorer and I get it, but even at press conference it was the same crap , zero accountability. Again. But like I said who to give it to, ? I have no idea on this team at this moment. Maybe I’m wrong it’s just my opinion obviously

@ComePoopAtMyHouse1 6 ай бұрын

Put the "c" on the guy selling hot dogs. Hes the only one who shows up and does his job with any consistency

@systemsoundbar5253 6 ай бұрын

they are right there. the boston series was hard fought, the difference is the leafs had weak goaltending and boston's goalie was on fire. the leafs finally realise you become contenders with big tough defencemen in the playoffs. with cade webber potential joining next season as brodie and giordano will be gone, the leafs defence will be stacked with size and toughness. fraser minton along with knies, domi, dewar, reaves and possible gregor, their forwards will not be push overs. if woll can show his a starter ,the leafs will finally be a team with skill and toughness that can roll 4 lines just like the bruins who by the way will be contending for the cup finals.

@mikedolan8232 6 ай бұрын

What about mitch going to Pittsburgh? Dubas loves him and he'd look good beside Syd

@dubble61 6 ай бұрын

I would like to see him go to Ottawa for Tkachuk...not that it's ever gonna happen.

@koshka02 6 ай бұрын

I actually disagree somewhat with JD's analysis. Statistically, its more likely the Leafs will win a Stanley Cup with a rookie coach then with a Stanley Cup veteran coach. Who was Mike Sullivan before Pittsburgh? Who was Jon Cooper before Tampa? They never coached a Stanley Cup winning team before. I'm not knocking Berube, but don't think that just because he coached a team to a Stanley Cup that that makes him more qualified than someone with fresh ideas to win in the playoffs.

@colinstanley4456 6 ай бұрын

Steve Dangle’s response would have been more entertaining!

@Onlytheclouds 6 ай бұрын

Mitch is a regular season all star. When the playoffs come around he gets very scared, many times he wouldn’t forecheck into the corner. Marner is not a playoff guy and it’s so evident now.

@HandShakeLineRespect 6 ай бұрын

Mitch is done and all the fanboys can’t handle it. The few that remain are trying to defend him.

@VooDoo-b7h 6 ай бұрын

Mitch will say, “It’s not over till I say it’s over!” [Paul,”What are you gonna tell Mom?” Mitch,”We lost. IDC.”]

@ed230 6 ай бұрын

Toronto desperately needs that stud goalie would make a world of difference for thos team

@bbhuchuk 6 ай бұрын

It's only one more season and then J.T is done at 11 mill.....they are going to run it back with a new coach is my bet

@gregthomson7889 6 ай бұрын

The problem for Marner now is no way Toronto can win every year because no one does so every year the fans will blame him more.

@schmingusss 6 ай бұрын

Bring in Mike Keenan.

@scottmorsch2558 6 ай бұрын

If none of the “Core 4” are open to moving, you’re stuck with them!

@chadloosemore6627 6 ай бұрын

So a team would be better with 4 average players so an injury doesn't hurt so much?

@stuffnsuch631 6 ай бұрын

Yes. Since the average points per player for the entire team would have increased.

@rhythmfox7000 6 ай бұрын

The fact that people want to hire Quenneville is stupid... the dude oversaw a team that abused their junior, he should be never even named as a possible candidate by any NHL team. He can rot for all I care. We have plenty of better coaches to choose from in the NHL.... on second thought he is exactly the coach for the Leafs lol

@steverobinson8771 6 ай бұрын

I swear... Marner playing on Bedard's wing for Chicago would be awesome... Mitch wouldn't go for it though 🤷

@steverobinson8771 6 ай бұрын

Do Leafs fans honestly think that they are going to get away from this core-4 so easily? You're insane 🤣 you're gonna get it for another year. Then we'll see what happens... you KNOW there are analytics guys pointing out that you were one power play goal away from Round 2 🙄

@lovewinsall77 6 ай бұрын

So, the only two Leafs whose lifelong dreams were to play for the Leafs are being snubbed by the Leafs fans. Yes, the Leaf Nation loyalty knows no bounds.

@tonysmith5123 6 ай бұрын

What about Claude Julian did he not build the culture in Boston

@ianmackie8959 6 ай бұрын

One team that would fit the bill for Marner is Seattle.

@marcob6880 6 ай бұрын

San Jose to play with the new "one." Leafs could ask for the 15thOA. San Jose 2nd rnd and a prospect and take a flyer on Klim Kostin

@gregthomson7889 6 ай бұрын

I think Keefer will end up in Pittsburgh.

@MussellRartin 6 ай бұрын

Everybody trashing Marner like he's beer league level and want to trade him at his lowest value. Marner didn't play all 60mins of every game. Lots of blame to go around. If Marner waives his NMC leafs will have almost zero leverage negotiating a trade. Dubas painted the Leafs in this corner and they're stuck with Marner for his last year. More likely he walks in free agency, why would he help the Leafs aside from getting the extra year in a sign and trade?

@almVancouver 6 ай бұрын

I'd like to see Marner take up Mormonism.

@gregthomson7889 6 ай бұрын

Marner wouldn't be the first Leaf run out of town because he is blamed for not winning a cup to go one to win a cup.

@sergiochiodo6513 6 ай бұрын

Why do all the talking heads think they are hockey executives, I understand why fans do....

@taeros00 6 ай бұрын

Two guys bothered that some people might not be getting upset and being negative about a sports team.

@nottherocketman 6 ай бұрын

LOL, the Midwest getting overlooked as usual. You talk about big, impactful trades over the past five years and somehow overlook the Blues acquiring Ryan O'Reilly from the Sabres? He won the Selke, Conn Smythe and Cup all in the same year! Also, former Leafs who would go on to win elsewhere; Alexander Steen, Carl Gunnersson, and Tyler Bozak all won with the Blues in 2019.

@SteveSacrob 6 ай бұрын

They're right where?, so close to what? 3 of 16 isn't close.

@joemaio41 6 ай бұрын

why do we have to get receycled coaches all the time. there has to be others that have accomplished merits.......

@johnpaulgeorgeandringo3559 6 ай бұрын

Let him walk. No way you give a player who does not show up in the playoffs an increase and extension of 10.9 million dollars.

@MP-zv6fm 6 ай бұрын

Everyone has a platform to talk but nothing comes out but noise. You dont see the good things that happened without a consistent lineup due to the injuries and illness and they were able to go to game 7. I think you guys need to chill. I think if things need to change its in the old defensive players like Gio and Broady. Get rid of Reilly and and Lilligren. Bring in Chychrun. The formula here and no one is talking about is put the core 4 in different lines. It doesnt help that the Leafs were in the dark with these illness and injury thats what pisses people off. Its unfortunate.

@GilesMcRiker 6 ай бұрын

Reporters ask cliched questions and so it should be no surprise that they get cliched responses

@brucekrygowski1926 6 ай бұрын

Toronto +/- for the team, playoffs. 7 guys+, 12 guys- , plus minus

@forrestnorris 6 ай бұрын

lol I bet he stays he said it he's god here the sad part is if he even played half like Darcy Tucker people would be going nuts and leave his Mitch as$ alone>

@marshallauerback444 6 ай бұрын

No love for Claude Julien?

@MP-zv6fm 6 ай бұрын

Remember, Kadri? How did that turn out when you trade someone because you didnt like his mental gap in the playoffs. "Trade Him Hes Useless"..

@Sam-z1t6p 6 ай бұрын

Comments sound so funny from players, were there close your not close when you score 2 goals per game or less and power play doesn't exist

@trevorrochon6983 6 ай бұрын

None of these guys in this core have ever had a leader to learn from. Look at Boston. Any new player came in had Bergeron and chara to learn how to play the right way. He’s being absolutely crucified but who’s actually stepped up. Matthews ? Reg season stats that’s it. What he done to elevate his team last a round. Nothing. No one is any better than the next guy on that team

@NathanrS-n4h 6 ай бұрын

I’m sorry first 2 minutes made me think I’d be wasting my time watching the rest of the video 😊

@wbj2000 6 ай бұрын

Nothing screams confidence like an ex TV executive attending the Leafs joint press conference. Completely useless. May as well hire a plumber to make important decisions about the team. Just imagine the discussion ... "What do you think Shanny?? .... Run it back??? .... Good idea." 🥳

@bradbradbury8561 6 ай бұрын

Marner at 50% retained to the Kings for Byfield and Brandt Clarke

@RayManzarekRocks 6 ай бұрын

Maybe the Kings could throw in Fiala as a sweetener.

@bradbradbury8561 6 ай бұрын

@@RayManzarekRocks Byfield had how many points this year? And where was Clarke playing this year? You had Byfield getting 55pts in 80 games while Marner had 85pts in just 69 games. That a 102pt season pace, which was double what Byfield had in 11 less games, so what's your point?

@RayManzarekRocks 6 ай бұрын

@@bradbradbury8561 The point is, you're dreamin', brah. The Kings wouldn't trade Byfield for Marner straight up let alone add their top prospect to the mix.

@bradbradbury8561 6 ай бұрын

@@RayManzarekRocks Ya one player getting twice a many points as another but you wouldn't trade for him, lol, I'd like to see your list of other guys you'd say the same thing about, but I'd say with your lack of hockey knowledge you can't even give me one. Marner averages around 100pts a season and Byfield at 55pst yet you think Byfield is better. How do you explain this illogical conclusion? Marner was a +26, Byfield was only a +9, again Marner was almost three times better in this category, yet you think Byfield is better?

@RayManzarekRocks 6 ай бұрын

@@bradbradbury8561 Byfield is 22, five years younger than Marner. He's also 6-5, 220 pounds and plays like 6-5, 200 pounds. Marner is 6-0, 180 pounds and plays like 5-10, 160. You win with guys such as Byfield in the postseason. You don't win with guys like Marner in the playoffs as we've seen over and over again. No way would the Kings trade a young power forward with upside for a pipsqueak who has maxed out. Oh, did I mention that the Kings are capped out?

@TWKOZAK 6 ай бұрын

I paused at the 11:13 mark. Bumkis, you're right. Marner should stick it to everybody. And that is to follow the routine that his agent has with his players: play out the contract and leave Toronto with nothing when he leaves. Tell them to bag it when they ask him to forfeit his no-trade clause. You media types are hilarious. Build up the Leafs year after year, blame the fans for losses, then come out here thinking your opinions as fantasy GMs matter. They don't.

@chrisorrell3066 6 ай бұрын

And people wonder why players want to stay far away from this city.

@GB-ob5zx 6 ай бұрын

34:27 🤣👍

@zackd4770 6 ай бұрын

Marner will play hard ball all year and then sign with boston next off season. Hell bent on causing leaf fans maximum pain

@willsk7068 6 ай бұрын

I feel bad for Bruin fans.

@yobruhh8161 6 ай бұрын

If i was marner ill just say ok ok ok and not waiving finish my contract and leave without giving nothing in return to the leafs

@willsk7068 6 ай бұрын

The next team that takes him, will sign him to that McDavid money hes always wanted.

@robertamaral907 6 ай бұрын

Shanahan blocked the marner trade from dubs and tre .good bye

@jman75234 6 ай бұрын

wjere was matthews game 1 ? or the 7 yeats before thix?they are all bums.

@hitchensghost 6 ай бұрын

I don't see leafs getting better by flushing the current stars and trying to start again. It's too early to dismember the team, because the only people eager to listen are the fans of other teams here to gloat.

@thet3504 6 ай бұрын

Reilly and Marner need to go... record without Reilly. 46-20-7.

@discoveryman59 6 ай бұрын

The Leafs are backed by the corporate crowd and that all they care about, the true fans that can't afford season tickets are just the great unwashed to MLSE! Toronto needs a NEW NHL team. This one unfortunately has sold it soul to the dark side.

@tobagocat 6 ай бұрын

Keep buying tickets Saps ..lol😂

@Norm_MacLeod 6 ай бұрын

You guys buy all their merch, pay their overpriced hotdogs, beer and tickets year after year, decade after decade. And what do you get?....the same result. I truly feel sorry for Leaf fans and I support the Bruins.

@wilfredwitzke2607 6 ай бұрын

nobody can afford marners contract

@joshboncoeur6985 6 ай бұрын

Domi??? Seriously? You show your priorities when you sign the son of an old fan favourite from your loser days. Everybody in the rink knows he's gonna pass when he gets the puck.

@sharpliketac526 6 ай бұрын

Mitch isnt waving just sayin. Willie should of gone this year for a goalie and a D

@biffstrong1079 6 ай бұрын

Lose in the first round. That's a D right. Offer Marner $5 Million for 5 more years and then he'll go his own way.

@ed230 6 ай бұрын

Trade him for a stud goalie ...demko soros hellebuyck sorokin stc

@marcob6880 6 ай бұрын

Yep same old same old JD, Matthews was no help again

@jeffreyvaughn1838 6 ай бұрын

I would rather have the coach stay, and the president go!

@SedatKulafofski-eh5pc 6 ай бұрын

I dont know how effective Brindamour would be coaching outside of that crappy style of hockey Carolina plays. I think he's a touch overrated.

@biffstrong1079 6 ай бұрын

I think they could trade to Utah for Valimaki, Crouse and a first round pick. Josh Norris, Chychrun and a first from Ottawa? Marner to Calgary for Markstrom , a second and Mangiapane? Dylan strome, Trevor Van Riemsdyk and Kuemper?