Perennial Losers with Jackie Redmond | JD Bunkis Podcast

Jackie Redmond of NHL Network joins JD Bunkis to discuss the current state of the Maple Leafs, expectations for the team, public accountability, Mitch Marner’s future and what defines a 'loser franchise'.
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[@edwardlea3413]

Marner really wants the team to do well...unless it involves him getting hit.

[@bjryan9296]

Perfectly said

[@szahmad2416]

I hope Craig Berube helps with that.

[@mannyo2909]

😂😂 So true

[@yourmommaz]

​@@szahmad2416you cant just turn into a "Tkachuk " . These guys (core4) arent the types of players to get dirty.. until that happens? Nothing but the same ol same ol is happening. Insane teally lol

[@johnsummerhill8323]

Just like Guy Lafleur and Mike Bossy.

[@ouromov2895]

I told my English friend. The English national team is the Maple Leafs of football. They both won in the 60's and are way over their head on what they think their potential is.

[@ach2337]

At least the English team gets somewhere but my Leafs can’t get past the first round

[@TheMightymolar]

Ha. I've made the same comparison for years.

[@wunzigan]

All I know, if this season doesnt work out, its 100% all on the players!!! No Heart, No Soul!

[@bigfella9600]

Good to see Jackie back in Sportsnet.

[@johnsmith7345]

thats debateable

[@jacoblewis117]

@@johnsmith7345 Yeah she's a women and this is youtube so there's plenty of you guys.

[@johnsmith7345]

@@jacoblewis117 I subscribe to JD's podcast she had nothing to say I found incitefull shut it off after 10 min

[@jppaul1261]

You guys have hit the nail on the head. Mitch Marner's problems in Toronto are largely self-inflicted. Terrible management starting with his agent and, apparently, his family. He can blame the fans and the media all he wants, but he consistently says and does the wrong thing EVERY opportunity he gets starting with his responses to the blowback he received after signing his post-ELC contract. This fan base is dying for a winner. We are extraordinarily loyal and supportive, but Mitch and his team have failed to read the crowd drastically to the point that Marner now epitomizes everything we see as "wrong" about this franchise even though we readily acknowledge his regular-season hockey talent. I wish him well with his next franchise.

[@szahmad2416]

Yeah...I think most people outside of Toronto would say what's wrong is Toronto's fan base and media. The arrogant presumptuousness of believing Toronto is "Canada's Team", and all the rest of it. Sheldon Keefe quoting other coaches congratulating him on getting out of Toronto "into the REAL NHL." The constant, overbearing pressure from fans and media (admittedly justified, especially given his large salary). And I get it; Toronto got screwed over the Ballard era, and has never turned up a real playoff performance since Mats Sundin left. But it does seem to be affecting player performance in a way that it doesn't in Florida, Vegas, Pittsburgh and Nashville. I feel Mitch would do great getting away from Toronto, to be honest; probably win a Cup or two like everyone else who's left Toronto.

[@SirJaymesDAudelée]

You don’t speak for me, sorry. Don’t say “we”. I’m a Mitch Marner fan. He is not to blame for the Leafs loosing. Anyone who blames his “family” and his “agent” for the Leafs loosing is - pardon my English -an idiot.

[@davidjohnson-fw5co]

Perennial Losers. 56 years and counting. The last original six team to not win a Stanley cup after 1980

[@kenta_0163]

Marner is a little boy amongst men. It’s really unfortunate he has no brawn, poise nor leadership.

[@jimklose648]

Like Glen Sather once said No Offence No Defence No Paycheque

[@johnsummerhill8323]

Irrelevant.

[@ToxicMonkey705]

It's difficult to really fix the team with the same core here. I think if you get rid of marner, you kinda have to strip it all down. Just because you get rid of one player, did that one player ruin the whole batch? Matthews doesn't really perform in the postseason either and if anything he's shown that marner plays a major role in his production. I know Matthews is considered the most talented leaf ever, but I wouldn't be surprised if the leafs win a cup without him on the roster. He just doesn't play to his size, doesn't stay healthy, continues to be a perimeter goal scorer, like Matthews is just as much of a problem as Mitch, so if you wanna move one let's just tear the whole thing down.

[@Nathanielhiggerson66]

the issue isnt really that the core doesnt produce, It’s that they have 0 depth scoring.

[@josephandrews9742]

Hiring Treliving was your first mistake. Look at how he screwed Calgary for the next eight years.

[@kayakerdude3727]

Jackie called it in advance that the Avalanche would be cup champions when they were a year ago and knows what she's talking about... she is like everybody else at this point when it comes to the Leafs. They are like a bad spouse that keeps saying sorry I'll be better next time and won't do that again - And then they proceed to do that again and again and again... Eventually even the most die hard and most optimistic of fans gets to a point where they just roll their eyes, walk away and tune you out. The goal was supposed to be a cup champion - Not the first, second, third rounds or even just making the finals - It was supposed to be a cup and they are not even close and are same old, same old.

[@H22AINTEGRA]

inspiring Jackie screaming the leaf's need to change got me cracked up

[@SceptileSlash]

Marner is so entitled, wants to have his cake and eat it too. Likes his 11 sheets a year but doesn't feel he needs to be accountable for anything in exchange.

[@shanebrohm7786]

What’s not talked enough about is there goaltending. The leafs lost 5-10 games last season solely based off of Samsonovs performance. If we can get better goaltending and guys like knies and McMann take another step up I feel like we can actually place better in our divisional standings which will help us in the playoffs.

[@Zeneroth]

haha that story at the end was hilarious @31:45

[@BigH0mie89]

Nice to hear what Jackie has to say. She knows what she's talking about. F the haters in the comments.

[@davidjenkin2375]

Too much money tied up in 3 or 4 players. Exclude JT because he won't waive his NM clause. If they don't trade Marner he'll walk for nothing or they sign him to an extension. Yikes!!! Their best road forward is to trade one of the big 3 and build a TEAM.

[@GoodMenstruationAttitude]

finally got the best of the best back on! Marner thinks 4 + back = pay... but he forgot the checks

[@Peterickenbacker1]

What makes the Leafs even bigger losers? Having greater financial resources than any other team, and still being inept at competing for a championship.

[@NobodyImportant74]

To properly assess an NHL General Manager I like to ignore the top paid players on the team. All GM’s enter the business with an intuitive ability to spot and overpay star players. This does not separate any one particular GM as better or worse than his peers. I mean I could choose and sign Conner McDavid. I’d deserve no kudos for that. I strongly believe that to asses a GM we should look at the bottom 50% of the team as sorted by their pay. This would be, by my definition, one half of the team’s players. As an exercise do this sorting for every team in the league. Now we find ways to compare the quality of the “bums and duds team” for all 32 cities. The GM that can reliably select the best low paid players will be rated high in my books. An organization that has a process to continually monitor and compare these bums and duds will also get a high rating from me. They will reliably snag and sign the best of the lower pay echelon. The rest of the league may not know how to do this. Alternately, instead of the bottom half players perhaps we could draw the line at say, 4.25 million per year. In this way the core four is not a crucial.

[@Nathanielhiggerson66]

they need depth. you cant win with a core 4 and league min 4th liner depth all the way.

[@szahmad2416]

I think more than that, they need a serious, solid defense and an outstanding goalie. Luckily, with Berube on board, those were the very first things he fixed...just as he did with St. Louis when they were at the bottom of the league in Jan. 2019, and he turned them into Stanley Cup winners that year. Offense really needs more defensive skills. The goals will come on their own if they clean up in their own zone and in the neutral zone.

[@Mrvegas6666]

Marner is a clown...

[@SirJaymesDAudelée]

And your a kid with cotton candy all over his face

[@johnsummerhill8323]

And that makes you...

[@andrewheard3099]

My teams are the Leafs, England, Arsenal and the Bills, lol.

[@jimlangdon1947]

The Leafs are known as regular season success and playoff failures. Going 20 years without a play off run the Leafs in the playoffs are Core 4 disappointments. By statistics playoff success outcomes should average at: Win a playoff round once every 4 years A playoff run every 8 years Appear in the Finals every 16 years Teams like the Jets (12 year old franchise) have at least gone on a playoff run within expectations. The Leafs - without a playoff run within 1) 50% of Matthews career & 2) zero out of 8 playoffs in failing to make the Eastern Conference Final - could easily not even win 2 second round games while Matthews is a Leaf in the next 8 years. 😀

[@joncakefilm]

Trading Marner is crazy talk. What’s crazy is thinking the Leafs will win the Stanley cup every season. Lower your expectations to the Leafs making the playoffs every season. Then maybe you’ll stop sounding crazy!

[@oldhab7890]

Teams do rebuilds and not win the Cup. To be successful in the playoffs, the person doing the rebuild must have a good template. Dubas had a theory high scoring could overcome any shortcomings brought on by the focus on the forward group. It was not a view shared by the "old guard". Further corporate ownership just doesn't care as much about winning as private owners. This shows in how the hockey team functions. Marner isn't going to do anything for the Leafs except score a bunch of points and walk at the end of season. The fans will chase him away just like they did Sundin.

[@sdt1sdt]

I will not go to a single Leafs game this year, and I might not watch any of them, either. I am done with this team, because they do not give a s*** about you or me. They give a s*** about keeping Brendan Shanahan on the payroll for some reason...

[@johnsmith7345]

nobody cares

[@jesseburke3990]

Perennials are flowers are they not?

[@joydjinn8692]

Time is ticking. Every season, the Leafs are getting worst than the previous one. Their opportunity is getting slimmer. The teams in their division are getting better. How will their get out of this clown outfit? They've been wearing it for a very long time now.

[@scribbler60]

Simple fact is that they have no incentive to improve. The Leafs are the most profitable pro hockey franchise in history. They sell out every single game. Fans line up like sheep to pay hundreds per seat and $12 for a tall boy to watch a mediocre team. Every year it's, "This could be the year! Good things are on the horizon!", and every year, without exception, they fail. Personally, I gave up on Leafs & Co in 2018 and have never regretted it. Continued fan-dom at this point isn’t dedication. It's illness.

[@leanlantern2]

Who says the leafs are a lock for the playoffs? One of these years we’re not gonna score away our problems and it’s gonna be bad

[@robquasi6153]

Ever since they lost to mtl, I have said fire shanny and gm ffs. It’s not the core 4, hhof in their prime. It’s every thing built around them. Tending, d, special teams, etc…… fire shanny brad before they do anything that sinks this franchise for decades

[@steverobinson8771]

Nylander turns up in the play-offs, Matthews, Marner and Tavares do not. Get rid of those 3 and reload the team.

[@joydjinn8692]

Nylander are their best player for years now

[@BigH0mie89]

I disagree. Matthews and JT turn into hitting machines in the playoffs, averaging over 5 hits a game in the playoffs. They actually throw the body a ton. Marner is another story. He's a seasonal player all around. No edge, no grit, no bite back. Unfortunately, he's a coward on the ice.

[@Kyt2024]

Matthews is routinely our best player. Love Willy, but only stat watchers think he's leading the team in the playoffs.

[@steverobinson8771]

Do you know what the odds are that Berube will win a 2nd Stanley Cup? I mean how many coaches have won 2 cups, let alone won 2 cups, with one team being the Leafs? Come on man... get real.

[@PowderClaws]

So as we all know since Babcock days. There's no discipline and they've cried to get what they want

[@showdown2006]

This team has gone through 2 coaches with the same results why does anyone think they'll get better? they're losers and management backed themselves into the corner with these massively overpaid contracts. I wish the media would stop saying they have to find a way to trade Marner, how are they going to do that???? he has a NMC, in a contract year! why would anyone give up assets for a rental with a contract like his? other teams will sit back and wait for him to hit the free agency market. Meanwhile he will walk for nothing. Leafs cooked themselves.

[@7jorjaty]

I think your personality and Jackie Redmond's mesh well and I can see you two as a great couple!!! JD and Jackie

[@johnbrowne2170]

No photo of Redmond... I stop watching.

[@johnsummerhill8323]

Lots of Habs fans here.All jealous.

[@armandolarade7861]

Well, I realize that they won a cup in 2011 but, the Bruins could easily fit that bill, they had Bobby Orr and all they won really, being honest is one lousy cup because the St.Louis cup was given to them, they got to the final seven times since and only won against more perennial losers the Canucks so, Boston have been losers while being successful at the same time.

[@johnsmith7345]

for all the Leaf haters the Canucks came into the NHL in 1970 and NEVER won the Cup. The Jets are not much better if you think its easy there are 32 teams trying to win.

[@nicholasazak5653]

Marner wants the team to win, unless it involves leaving one dollar on the table

[@baohoaily]

Just compare the salaries and performances of the Leafs top players vs Florida’s for the playoffs. Realize it’s not even close. Pick a second team to follow and be happier ever after. 😂😂😂

[@Peterickenbacker1]

Dude stop interrupting and talking over your guest.

[@drewkoenen8334]

Number one reason leafs lose yr after yr …..ownership!

[@lichtsa]

Jackie LOVES wearing Red Bottoms to bed

[@timespace2050]

A hippo has a better chance at g.m

[@Jackiechan20000]

Im sorry but wtf does jackie redmond know about hockey/ She reads a script

[@tami3456]

She probably knows more about hockey than some idiot with the username "Jackie Chan"

[@johnsmith7345]

why does Bunkis have her on

[@BigH0mie89]

​@@johnsmith7345Simple. She knows more than the average leaf fan, including you.

[@johnsmith7345]

@@BigH0mie89 you know what they say opinions and aholes

[@SirJaymesDAudelée]

I love how all these Marner haters spread their vitriol everywhere - accept those times when he is carrying the teams offence, being nominated for a Selke, locking down the penalty kill. Like what do all you idiots just spend all your time waiting on the edge of your toilet seat for the chance to take a sh*t? What did Mathew’s do against FLorida last year? NOTHING. He’s a one trick pony. But what ever happens when you play a team that knows your ONE trick. Better learn how to pass I guess.

[@onlygknows7793]

Focus on Reilly + Tavares not on a player who is one of the best in the league.

[@TMLDomain]

So much MADE UP nonsense. You nothing about the team and what goes on the locker room. Its crazy how you can just go on a podcast and say whatever you want without backing it up with any facts. What Jackie and JD are saying is just their opinions. thats it, thats all. To say these are are new age players and that they dont respond is BS. Leafs went through it all last year and their best players dragged them to a 100pt season and playoffs. Leafs leaders had a better season and result than the TBL.

[@meanmaverick7256]

You speak about "seeing the big picture" yet have done nothing but dwell on the core four.. the last decade you been talking about how bad the Leafs are on Defense and how the forwards don't get any help and now they focus on the Defense to help the forwards so they're not spending a solid minute plus defending and then expected to drive offense and now all you talk about is the core four?! There is just no pleasing you media people and it's to no fault of any organization but your fault for very poor full swing reporting simply looking for views and clicks, you know all you gotta do is bash on the Leafs and your ratings sky rocket.. but that's media these days, agenda driven garbage!

[@lattamusic]

I'm a fan of Marner, the player. Marner, the person, maybe not so much. But all this rhetoric about his "media ban" is garbage. Get over it. The questions would be ridiculously predictable. What about the answers ? Same, with a side of disdain. Do we really need to go down that road right now ? No. Only the Toronto media do, grasping at straws for something to write, blog or vlog about. Times is tough for them folk, sure. But just stop and take a breath ffs. I'm a life long fan and, like all us other idiots, eat up all the updates like candy but, Toronto media, please stop trying to spit shine this or any other turd of a Marner "story" all off season long. It's gross.

[@Buttmannopfer19]

WTF is Jackie Redmond?

[@alexracco1618]

If someone asked me who would be a better top 6 Centremen between Tavares or Kuzentov, I would choose Kuzentov since he's making 3M I would trade Tavares, as well as Marner I would go out try find another top 6 winger trade Marner, since both Matthews/Nylander have great chemistry together

[@johnsmith7345]

Jackie Redmond ??? I bet she can't skate Leaf Nation hasn't heard of you and don't care

[@flackjacket3dits]

Enjoy another 1st round exit

[@johnsmith7345]

@@flackjacket3dits Your team doing better ?

[@flackjacket3dits]

@@johnsmith7345 every single team including Seattle has done better

[@johnsmith7345]

@@flackjacket3dits based on what your dislike ?

[@4602experience]

The amount of useless commentators and journalists telling nonsense stories to sell garbage click bait advertising to a fan base is absolutely hilarious, and disheartening.

[@acidraindrops1]

Leafs suck

[@TWKOZAK]

Once the leafs were eliminated, I had to laugh at the media who thought management should get rid of Marner so it would please them. Put your egos away. As a sports bettor for years (+ 43%), I'll share with you how I view teams. All teams go into one or two directions: you're either moving closer to winning a Stanley Cup or you're headed towards a rebuild. Decide for yourselves where the Leafs are right now. Nuff said. Gotta give Marner credit for giving the media the middle finger.

[@drewkoenen8334]

🤣🤣🤣

[@onlygknows7793]

Only idiots talk about trading Marner.

[@TheRiverweasel09]

No one cares about your history as a sports better, and nor does it give you any level of expertise on how a team will do.

[@johnsmith7345]

@@onlygknows7793 number 4 pick over all and an incredible junior career you dont give up on that you figure out how to make it work

[@SnakePlissy]

You don’t win with boys you win with men . Why babs was such a salty mf he wanted hanifin, we drafted marner. He literally said we’re drafting men and they proceeded to draft a boy 😅. It’s his attitude that needs to go you obviously don’t understand locker room cancers . That said he makes 11 mil and didn’t even play like a 3 mil player LOL wtf kind of glue are you people sniffing 😅

[@JayMil365]

Berube isn’t the guy either, lol

[@chadloosemore6627]

J.D. and your group think you are so much smarter than Doug MacLean...

[@ryanhillier107]

1:30 your opinion is instantly irrelevant

[@MySundin13]

enough whining J.D. Marner is playing out the year and will have one last crack in the playoffs....after that, the Leafs will let him walk. there will be 2 to 3 quality UFAs next year to use his cap hit for.

[@JustinMcNulty-vw7ni]

Who cares, this is the four players that will make it happen

[@fonzymoz]

Bunkis is turning into Joy Behar

[@blaisejones1053]

Jackie all I ask is you pass on my YEET to your personal friend jey uso for me please and thanks 🙏