League is boring and stale, I quit

[@Hashinshin]

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[@joshuanugentfitnessjourney3342]

Will you still react to/talk about league ?

[@krystians2016]

what about new moba+overwatch from valve would you at least try it? when it comes out ofc

[@GuiltySpark-rh8ny]

Will you still make patch notes videos?

[@supertaakot]

I'll miss your game analysis and patch notes videos dearly, I've been a silent long time follower here on youtube just for that. Wish you the best with the variety streams and your happiness going forward. HE'S FINALLY FREE FROM LEAGUE OF LEGENDS

[@Damian-ew1vl]

You're such a coward

[@prickly_procyonids]

Hash is finally free. This game is a form of self harm at this point.

[@itchyballsl]

no more carpet incidents

[@c4ke_rs]

Thats why I basically only follow the E-Sports scene at this point. I still like seeing the game at top level, I don't enjoy playing it anymore though.

[@Alpsgotswag]

@@c4ke_rs i play arams/flex/normals with friends which is the only way i enjoy league nowdays

[@bankaihampter2802]

I removed league like half a year ago and it was great for me. I got myself wild rift on the phone, so I can play with friends arena or stuff like once a month when I want to get back to league. I'm never downloading it again

[@Alpsgotswag]

@@bankaihampter2802 you always uninstall but you always reinstall it

[@bragiodinsen4604]

my take on why league sucks - it has all the stress of a real sport without the physical activity that gives you the chemical response to feel satisfied after the game. this is why you never even feel good when you win a league game, but dont feel too bad after losing a real game.

[@bonk5221]

Also you dont know the players. If you play football you know your friends and might even drink a beer with your enemies afterwards. In league you would try to insult your foes AND your friends. The environment is toxic on the very base.

[@pietrolollo1233]

You get to play because you usually want to improve,queque up a ranked game,and in the first few minutes proceed to understand that 99% of the time, the people who are with you focus more about complaining for other people's performance instead of theirs. Playing league of legends is not a beautiful experience when every game I have to basically mute everyone so that I can focus slightly more(and even then you won't win,bc again,your teammates focused more on typing on chat instead of playing). League of legends is a team based game but when you play ranked you're actually playing alone,that's how I felt playing this bad game,and since I've quit it, i've never felt any better. I guess it just wasn't my type of game.

[@pietrolollo1233]

The balancement doesn't help either because they completely ignore everything else that is not pro play. I've seen champions perfectly balanced being nerfed,and champions that needed reworks being left in the dust for years before becoming available again.

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

@@bonk5221 because league is not face to face. fighting games offer lan parties you could go to and fight people and most of the time these people are chill and strive to improve as much as you do. league does not have such luxury.

[@gustavovingo]

@@pietrolollo1233 my poor maokai has been brutally nerfed again and again because of proplay, really sad

[@AlabasterFilth]

14:50 "How many times have we rebalanced K'Sante? Is K'Sante getting another rework yet? You tell me, is he? I bet he is!" Yes, he did in fact get reworked again! About a month ago now.

[@SailorIvo]

-Fck vanguard -Fck balance team -Fck greedy riot -Fck soyboy -Fck twitch -We know all and we are with you -Respect the choice -We want music > dmca free streams hopefully All my time that i spent in your streams i had GREAT time, i was there for music and your takes/jokes. No matter what you play if it has music over it or if the topics we talk about are interesting enough for me, i would be there. "o7" to the discord gang and mods, i did meet great people there.

[@Reaperl97]

There are 7,139 languages in this world and Sailorivo chose to speak facts

[@Damian-ew1vl]

soy? isn't hashinshin a dumb ultraliberal? lmao

[@Timeforspas12]

Vanguard did not change anything significantly in the game. If you played COD or any Blizzard title, you already had invasive anti-cheat embeded within your pc anyway. The balance team is tone deaf, but that's old news. Etc.

[@SailorIvo]

@@Timeforspas12 Please check "levels of security" and "how commonly used each program is on other games". Cherry on top, "who owns what".

[@Damian-ew1vl]

Isn't hashinshin a total weak liberal?

[@NoNoNoNopeNopeNopeNo]

It's also - most of us are 30+ now, we have responsibilities - we don't have time to smash out 10-20 games/day. We don't have the time to waste 30-40 minutes per game for a nil result. We could have cooked dinner, sorted the kids out, ran errands/cleaned the house, whatever, in that time. We've outgrown the game. It's just not worth our time anymore. I mainly just play shmups now. 5/10 minutes and my ''gaming scratch'' is itched. As opposed to 12 hours of ranked cancer hell in league, just to most likely be breakeven/+20LP at the end. If i have a proper ''day off'' from life, i'll sink a few hours into an RPG with a couple beers and some pizza and cheesecake. Life's too short to play a toxic/cancerous game, or willingly put yourself through an awful environment/experience.

[@coreo6688]

Competitive games, getting to 10-15% body fat which is insane to keep for a long time, these things you do once or twice in your life, the next time it's abuse to your mind and body, it's not bad to try once to be ultra competitive or ultra fit or ultra good at an instrument but you are gonna see that it only works one time where it doesn't completely destroy your mind, we are not gods we are humans, we are expected to be god damn athletes and pro players in EVERYTHING WE DO IN LIFE, you can't, it messes with your brain, with your reward system. Fck up one time? it's not "that's too bad I will learn" , it's "I'm a worthless worm" , do 6 things brilliantly, excel like you are the best human , "That's god damn right, it's to be expected of me", absolute toxic behaviour, what were the parents doing? You realistically can't do all this, you are gonna go insane , you just want a relaxed fun life where you can have fun with other people, however in society everyone wants to be the next Lebron James of "insert thing here"

[@FuckYoutube-wf1wh]

​@@coreo6688fitness is nothing even close to shitty ass videogame lmao

[@pietrolollo1233]

It's not that life is too short. It's just that the game is not worth the time. A videogame is played to just "relax". I would say that competitive games are not my type,but then again,Smash Bros doesn't upset me at all when I lose. And I think that the reason is pretty simple; I know that the game is balanced,and my victory/loss doesn't depend on other 4 people struggling with their psychological issues

[@johnnybaxter1953]

You said it man. It's just too much time to commit

[@tg2190]

Exactly my situation, I pretty much only play arams now because usually shorter and less BS in game

[@peterchase2224]

Sub for quitting league, game has turned into a slot machine that thrives off addiction rather than enjoyment.

[@vegannegan9652]

Exactly. If people weren't addicted nobody would play this mess

[@MGViolent]

Welp, hopefully, 2XKO will be fun to play :/

[@BlackScisir]

you're so delusional dude. There are many of us playing League who have tons of fun because we play for FUN. Maybe try playing normals again after cucking yourself on ranked for so many years.

[@WorldKeepsSpinnin]

@vegannegan9652 how can u be addicted to this game lmao. When somethings bad you stop playing it and its that simple. Clearly theres something you like somewhere.

[@vegannegan9652]

@@WorldKeepsSpinnin i play because I'm emotionally invested. Why do people gamble when they lose all their money? They chase that dopamine high.

[@veluaa]

"Real actual Nazis are more polite to me than basically anyone in the League of Legends community. Probably because I'm white, but the point stands." LOL

[@foreignfat6009]

Eh. Being white isn't enough. So point definitely stand.

[@Corvus306]

"Gameplay isn't fun" section pretty much summed up why I have been barely playing league for like a year if not more now. I try playing it every now and then, and I just think "man, I'm just really not having fun right now. I am bored. I want to be doing something else"

[@MourningSin]

hey shin, go be with your mom man I lost my grandma today who raised me, and I wish I spent more time with her. Go do something you won't regret and live your life the way you want it.

[@PaladZerkGamerGF]

Hash, I'll really miss your patch videos, even when I wasn't playing League, I kept watching all your videos, and after watching them for a while I got serious and got some more game knowledge, and got to Diamond for the first time last split. I want to thank you for the content, and for the persistence in keeping playing this god-forsaken game. Hope you come back soon because I don't really like streams and I unfortunately like League and you, so yeah, but take your time and do what you want! I've met you since the RIIIIGHT THROUGH THE COUNTERSTRIKE era and I never really left, It was a fun ride and I hope we can continue It someday later.

[@carl8468]

fr

[@driftr3004]

He honestly gave me a good amount of insight on how the game works with those patch notes, gonna miss those.

[@giovanni5954]

I'm alright with him not playing it but the patch note videos were pretty good, I also quited league and hash was the only content from league that I was following

[@shacuras8201]

"Right through the counterstrike" and "unstoppable btw", those were the days

[@ok-iy6pw]

I wanna see the Hashinshin Lore channel transformation. Some different kind of asmr

[@mist8733]

About the voyboy drama i think solid 60% of the community know that you are innocent but at this point your name became so popular, a meme so much associated with "meme culture" people just dont want to look at you in another light.

[@Timeforspas12]

Nah. Even if he was inocent, his arguments wouldn't hold up in court. Neither would Voyboy's, but hey, that's up to a court. In my eyes he'll always be a sus individual regardless.

[@goblintechies4396]

@@Timeforspas12 Its innocent until proven guilty in the court of law. Not the other way around. As it has to be proven beyond reasonable doubt for him to be guilty. And yet voyboy had not one, but two times where they tried to prove hashinshin was doing something wrong. And yet both times, voyboy still had it backfire on themself. Plus consider how the dust settled on the matter. Hashinshin still makes videos. Voyboy doesn't and hasn't for 2 years.

[@VrilVVizard]

@@Timeforspas12 do you also believe Santa brings you gifts every year?

[@dangilbertson592]

I mean, Hash was DM'ing sexual messages to a 15 year old. It was legal because the girl lived in a part of Sweden where the age of consent was 15. This whole thing is just Hash saying "you cant fire me, I quit" because he's too neurotic and delusional to ever admit he's wrong. We are talking about a guy who keeps insisting Riven is broken as he's literally running it down in a game trying to abuse kleptomancy Viktor.

[@2g4u56]

​@@dangilbertson592Riven IS broken though

[@oil588]

Don’t care about the other points, Hash called me handsome and that’s all I need to hear.

[@FuckYoutube-wf1wh]

Racist

[@zacara8469]

Aaaaand that's how easy is to manipulate the average person.

[@milanesadecactus8722]

@@zacara8469 You can't be serious dude lol

[@wigmanmania259]

LoL's balance really seems like it's going in circles nowadays I remember checking dota last week and they gave like 3 new abilites to every single champ in one patch

[@geoDB.]

Dota does this every big update, it destroys the balance

[@yaman9463]

@@geoDB. dota has balance?

[@Nersius]

​@@yaman9463Dota is usually very well balanced, with maybe 4 real outliers per patch and most of the roster seeing play.

[@geoDB.]

No. Dota balance is funked. Every year massive update, makes it garbage, gets cleaned up, repeat

[@Nersius]

@@geoDB. I think you are confusing play experience with balance. I quit the game over the patch notes becoming a novella of essential information, but the balance was always great.

[@kia-soul9191]

I quit when Riot announced that they were gonna implement Vanguard in League. Also, I don't know if it's just me, but for some reason I no longer enjoyed playing like I did in 2015 or 2016 back then.

[@carsickthenark1195]

who cares

[@cixsmiley3618]

Why would you care about vanguard unless you were part of the problem!

[@danneltheflannel]

@@cixsmiley3618 Lmao Vanguard bricked so many people's PC's... nobody in your silver games were hacking before Vanguard and things havent changed at all afterwards.

[@cixsmiley3618]

@danneltheflannel it uses Windows functions and elo doesn't matter cause the bots leveling sat in all game elos.

[@Ezekiel_Burton]

​@@cixsmiley3618riot are notorious for data leaks and covering them up or not notifying until years later. They are a horrific company that can't code competent software. Your choice to trust them, just hope it doesn't bite you in the ass

[@Soren59]

Funny enough, I uninstalled League almost the exact same time I stopped seeing you upload League content. In my case I simply don't want Vanguard on my computer, and I pretty much only played ARAMs for the last year anyways. I'd still watch your patch videos if you decide you want to continue doing them though, just because I like the theorycrafting and analysis aspect to League.

[@D-mac777]

Thats part of the reason i uninstalled.. Vanguard was bricking my PC for 0 reason and disconnecting my internet and I had a tech guy come out and it wasnt my router or internet.. As SOON as I uninstalled vanguard and league the problem stopped.. So yeah Im gone until they update vanguard or something. But honestly Im way happier off of league.

[@valentin_hmmrl]

What is Vanguard? I quit League but I never uninstalled it.

[@Soren59]

@@valentin_hmmrl Their new anticheat software (Valorant also has it) that requires root access to your PC and boots itself up automatically whenever you restart your PC. If you want to turn it off, you have to restart your computer if you want to play League again.

[@RockTheEternal]

@@valentin_hmmrl Riot Games anti-cheat with kernel level access to your pc, which scans constantly your files and drivers and coinflips what to do with the ones it doesn't "recognize" ( ususally by bricking them)

[@nikokrisp5273]

@@valentin_hmmrl aggressive anti cheat that basically sits in kernel-level (basically the core of your OS, basically it has more control over your computer than you), and what it basically do is that it can detect far better because cheats are usually hidden but you can't hide if you have detection on the most access level to all files. So, after they implement it on league, it kinda brick some PCs because their PCs have a certain arrangement of files that basically when put in contact with vanguard, it just goes bonkers and screw up the game or the PC, and it affects quite alot of people rn. tl;dr, invasive anticheat that's a 50/50 of fking up your pc or you can play the game 20% safer from a cheater

[@eantropix]

Honestly I'm so glad Vanguard was added to League. I already didn't enjoy the game, I already felt miserable after two matches, I already told myself I'd quit. Vanguard came in and just served as the perfect excuse for me to stop altogether.

[@cowgoesquack5945]

27:15 Hashinshin talks about voyboy drama

[@FickleBrickBee]

I was addicted to league for 5 years (till 2018) and your content help me finally quit 5-6 years ago by simply helping me confirm the problems I had with the game/why I wasn't having fun anymore. I hope you the best! (ill pop into a variety stream every now and then)

[@FickleBrickBee]

Having time to live your life and explore and have fun with things you enjoy is something you can't do if you're trapped in a queue chasing a dopamine rush but just being unhappy.

[@Soren59]

Yeah I quit around 2017 or 2018, game just wasn't fun anymore (runes reforged played a large role). Eventually came back around 2022 though, but Vanguard gave me enough reason to quit for good.

[@EtSlagFisse]

Stop blaming the game, and take some responsibility for your own life and happiness.

[@georgeg9779]

​@@EtSlagFissethey didn't blame the game though. Overcoming an addiction is exactly what you told them to do.

[@FFxJechTxFF]

Gonna miss your League content Hash, a lot more than I'd ever miss playing the game myself or even watching you stream it. Your patch videos and balance feedback were both top-notch quality and the longform, podcast style worked really well for you. Hope you find success with other content!

[@Hashinshin]

trying to find ways to implement longform podcast style content in to variety videos

[@brunob4566]

​​@@Hashinshin i would really love some just chatting streams because i liked listening to you in the background when you did league balance reviews but now there wont be any. Also food reviews were cool lets not forget about those

[@YourFavouriteDraugr]

@@brunob4566 Imagine listening to someone who has absolutely zero concept of gameplay balance speak about balance.

[@ineedanoriginalname]

I think the LoL community gets bad before streamers. The game itself has core issues that incentivizes de-humanizing everyone you interact with. It becomes obvious when everyone buys accounts, smurfs, ints, runs it down, full mutes, etc. Autofill that causes you to not care about the current game you're in, no voice chat causing you to treat everyone as mindless robots with no coordination, no punishing smurfs/alts and therefore allowing people to do whatever they want with practically no consequence, etc. The list goes on, and all of these things just tell players "Hey, don't treat your teammates like people! That just makes the game harder! Play on your own, ignore everyone else." For a multiplayer and team based game with ranked, its pretty stupid

[@MrPronGogh93]

League community become bad the moment riot pushed for t1 as the posterboy

[@EtSlagFisse]

Streamers have a huuuuuge impact on the toxic community. Proof? Well it's funny how every insult you can receive ingame, has been said by a popular streamer on a stream before.

[@lapusso3704]

literally, for example when i play in cs2, and im insulting someone bc they made a bad play, and they tell me in vc "sorry its my first time playing in months" or things like that, i really feel bad for blaming them in lol i dont give a shit

[@MrPronGogh93]

@@EtSlagFisse yep, before t1 nobody used to say "top gap", before yassuo nobody would wrote "woof woof" and so on. In the imqtpie era, at best you would have someone calling for a clown fiesta, or straight up toxic bs that would get them banned once in post game lobby

[@thunder7135]

@@MrPronGogh93 man, I miss the Imaqtpie era bro... League community as a whole seemed to be more chill back then. They almost had some... decency.

[@ChaddyFantome]

League got consumed by competitive. Lets just admit it. I miss the era of LoL parodies and animations, music videos, etc They told us it wouldn't happen, but it did.

[@zeusjukem9484]

ironically if you watch LCK they have wacky skits and shit constantly. maybe the levity is part of what makes them good

[@coffeelink943]

I miss when LoL had WoW graphics

[@maximus2463]

​@@coffeelink943 I agree a LOT , the old league graphics had such a great aesthetic, it is truly a shame its been forgotten

[@KillerBsan_]

Same with Apex Legends shts unplayable just coping ignore me

[@justinwang701]

I started playing league around the end of S4 and the beginning of S5, and that was the best time I had playing this game. I quit because I realized it will never go back to what it was anymore, it's just not the same game I used to love... I almost got kicked out of university because I couldn't stop playing during my first and second year. My grades, friendship, and social life suffered to the point where I cannot even recognize myself anymore. Moreover, my life was completely filled by playing league everyday for countless hours, and I was too embarrassed to tell anyone about my gaming addictions. I tried to quit by uninstalling the game quite a few times before, but it was only since June of 2020 when I managed to quit completely. On the day that I quit, I was so angry and frustrated that I lost countless ranked games in a row, to the point where I almost raged after I lost a couple of meaningless ARAM games just trying to win for once. I was no longer having fun but rather playing just because couple of friends who introduced me to the game were still playing. What really hit me was the sudden realization that I've put my blood and sweat over all these years, yet I was still hard stuck gold and couldn't win a single game that day no matter how hard I tried. I had never lost my mind like that before and I knew that I just couldn't take it anymore, so I deleted the game one last time for good. Since then, I haven't touched the game and I absolutely don't have any desire to play it again. I regretted wasting six years of precious time, life, and money on this game, and it's something that I can never get back. Looking back at it, I don't miss this game at all. It was simply one of the best decisions I've made as it changed my life completely. I became a much happier person, as I found my purpose and calling in life through my church. In terms of my career, I made the decision to pursue a career in education after I quit. More importantly, just a few months after I quit I met my girlfriend, and we have been dating for over a year now. Honestly, I don't think I would have gotten a girlfriend if I continued playing. Your life will be in a much better state when you stop wasting your money and time on something that's literally a virtual reward and data. Seriously guys life is too valuable to continue to waste it on something like this…

[@maximus2463]

Congratulations my man, massive respect for turning your life around .

[@justinwang701]

@@maximus2463Thank you! Wish you the best as well

[@justinwang701]

@@maximus2463 Thank you! Best wishes to you as well

[@maximus2463]

@@justinwang701 I actually stopped playing league when the 500€ skin was announced. I couldnt stand such a lack of respect for their playerbase , and for faker . Plus , I noticed that overtime, normals were more and more like ranked. And I hate ranked with all my being. So I decided to quit playing. Maybe they can pull a miracle like a League classic or they can just let league die , but I will not be playing their anime ass game anytime soon

[@justinwang701]

@@maximus2463 I totally agree. The game has been going downhill for more than a couple of years now, and it’s mostly the pro scene that is keeping it alive. It’s just not worth your health and sanity to put so much time into a game that doesn’t care about its players wellbeing (except the pros maybe), and it’s sad to see that Riot is just trying to milk as much money as possible out of a dying game

[@wigmanmania259]

I'm pretty sure Mobas started as just regular "destroy the enemy base" multiplayer maps where you control one unit and your army was built and controlled by the computer

[@geoDB.]

Warcraft 3 mod called dota

[@Reaperl97]

all started as a warcraft 3 custom map called Defense Of The Ancients (DOTA)

[@123dmytro123]

@@Reaperl97 Dota is based on another custom map, it even credits aeon of strife for it's main inspiration. But the orignal moba was dynasty warrior custom map from starcraft 1, which spawned a few knock offs including aoen of strife, which later got ported to wc3 because it was still popular once that released and dota took the idea from that.

[@christopherjones5700]

@@123dmytro123 its because people who made custom games wanted each team of players to be able to micromanage their own role in the game as the buildings still pumped out AI controlled units, obviously 5 people cannot control the same base, its the same reason why tower defenses were huge in wc3 custom games like Island Defense, or LOAP (life of a peasant) where everyone controlled basically one hero unit with a few people that controlled normal units and bases. Custom games in WC3 were so productive that it spawned an entire genre of gaming that became more popular than the one that spawned it to begin with.

[@Zenweaponry]

I just can't believe how League can be so unfun and yet still convince people to play it exclusively for years. Took me years to quit. I think everyone's just chasing the high of their first hypercarry game and they can't give up that distant memory. That and they're comfortably numb.

[@jeanpierrepolnareff9919]

Im addicted to the competition, feeling better or above other players. Then you go to the real world and no one gives a shit. Thats the depressing part for me.

[@coldresin]

@@jeanpierrepolnareff9919 "I hit masters in League of Legends!" "Yeah, so?"

[@oui7171]

I left it ever since the vanguard update, I almost wanted to play the arena update but I didn't because I honestly think they only released it this point to discourage people wanting to quit even just for a bit, like a way to make people forget about their godawful anticheat, but now with the fucking 500$ skins I can confidently say that this game is unsalvageable garbage, they could have done things a long time ago but now it's clear that money is not only the main focus, it's the only focus

[@Bryan-wb7te]

I think the problem with the variety channel is that most people don't know anything about the game being played and the games are usually complex. If you explained more of what's happening then it might draw in more viewers who don't know the game. Maybe you already are doing that though since I haven't watched in a while.

[@KAMFP]

I think he needs to do like "introduction to x game" and get people familiar with it.

[@yorickmori7735]

nah the games are just boring to watch. He plays mostly strategic games which are ine of the worst games to watch. Ik it's interesting for him to play but to watch it's such a bore

[@mgs85]

Variety channels get big because of the person playing, hash isn’t a great streamer, he usually doesn’t interact with the audience. It’s not entertaining. This won’t attract a lot of people. The games are fine, there are other streamers who have huge audiences that play some of these games regularly.

[@kardaneg112]

@@mgs85 Yeah, unfortunately you're right. I watched some of the hashinshin's streams like 2 years ago and he never seemed to care about positive / neutral things people were saying to him in chat or answer any questions considering the game. Usually it's him nitpicking one of the comments he would disagree with and go on a rant about said thing. His interaction with viewers is really boring

[@ntkn]

ive said this for the longest time, but if you truly want to nerfs jglers, roaming supports/mid lane, then the BEST way to do it is unnerf wards and allow it to where you can have as many of them as you want on the map (just increase the cost), and increase the price of boots while giving them compensation buffs. Warding in particular was the best counter to jg you could possibly have, but over time they nerfed wards hard and they buffed sweeper. not only did they buff sweeper, but they gave you items that reduced wards to just 1 tap aswell as added those idiotic plants that just reduces all wards in a giant radius to 1 tap. I get it, unlimited wards was broken when you were ahead since it basically gave you a map hack if you warded properly, but that it was balanced in the fact that it was only the support doing this, and they needed to spend nearly all of their gold to do so because free ward trinkets did not exist back then. Whats funny tho is that trinkets only exist because low elo players, including supports, refused to spend money on wards despite how good they were. (you could actually climb from warding on a supp alone compared to a enemy support not warding). But fine, i can see how they may not want ward map hacks to come back. Then ATLEAST increase the number of wards (for SUPPORT only) that you can have on the map from 3 to 6, and to balance it out each ward past 3 from the trinket costs 75-100 gold to place on the map.

[@michaellimone224]

I mostly just hate how much damage is in the game these days, why can't they make cooldowns on abilities longer like they used to be and nerf base damage across the board? At the very least drop another "durability patch," it would be like a bandaid on a horrible laceration, but better than nothing.

[@xolotltolox7626]

​@@michaellimone224issue with another durability patch is that it just makes the numbers creep up and up You'd need to reduce damage first, instead of upping everyone's durability Like LDR and Serylda's were 30% pen, and now are 40% because of durability Patch, and after the DP LDR became a bigger 3rd item damage spike than IE, because everyone got so much armor

[@Shallaan]

I miss old school league, all of this was fun imho and I used to like playing support more back then, the ward war against the other support was fun

[@obsessedwithcats]

@@michaellimone224 Yeah, it sucks right now. Everyone one shots everyone. I miss when we had to peel for our ADC to deal damage and protect them from the enemy assassin, now the fucking mage support can one shot you or the tank jungler, it's so boring. And now with Sundered Sky and Eclipse, half of top lane can one tap you while being as tanky as Maokai. It's a huge issue. Assassins aren't even good right now and they're supposed to delete people.

[@sekischro5093]

my god fr that senna pyke item that instant reveal wards is so boosted tbh.

[@wizzardjohny]

league of legends has fallen, billions must play DOTA 2

[@thecherrypi9718]

Goodnight the Super Top, hello Shinshin Variety

[@nomecognome3186]

A question for the Americans in the chat: how does defamation works in the US? I was told that in the USA you are basically allowed to say anything about anyone, but I know for a fact that the US has defamation laws (at least in some states). Here in my country you must be very careful about what you say publicly, even if what you say is true,. Basically it is impossible to publicly accuse someone since you are allowed to do that only after the verdict of a judge. So basically everyone is silent until you know the result of the process. For example say that someone scams you, you publicly say that he is a scammer and sue him. You can actually lose the defamation process(if he was never proven to be a scammer by a judge before) and win the one related to the scam itself There are some nuances, and it is not an automatic loss in the defamation cause, but still basically everyone is strongly suggested to stay silent.

[@libertybelllocks7476]

Defamation and libel cases are hard to prove because you have to show you lose monetary value and most people cant do that. So you can say anything about anyone, and you can either say its "my opinion", which saves you, or bank on the fact that defamation cases are hard to prove because a person would have to prove that what you said was a direct result of them losing money. If you say something true, its not defamation.

[@galanga21890]

16:56 just say it, everyone's trying and failing to replicate the absolute meltdowns and goofy weirdness that made Tyler1 popular back in the day but without any of the actual charisma and natural talent to just make any stupid shit you make up on the spot funny. whether you love or hate t1, i feel like that's the truth. happened way back in the day with people like Yassuo trying to capture that same energy, but it's definitely spread and become far more rampant in recent years. unfortunately these people mostly tend to be toxic, unlikeable nerds.

[@mekklord]

Every now and then I bingewatch a bunch of old replay compilations from like SphereStalker, League of Hashinshin etc. Your insights of the game will definitely be missed and it's a shame we're losing such a talented and intelligent contributor.

[@cadesummers5866]

Quitting league has been one of the best decisions I’ve ever made- my mental, physically and relationship health all improved drastically. Ive started playing Hunt: Showdown for a game that still keeps me on the edge of my seat without feeling like I’m getting insulted by a gang of high schoolers every 30 minutes, switch to that it’s much healthier and the devs are much more transparent

[@justanscv]

I just hate that Riot is afraid to innovate. If you look at HoTS characters and skills and compare them to LoL characters and items you see a major difference in variety. If league tried new, like REALLY out there, changes to kits and items at least it would be interesting.

[@sekischro5093]

can u give example of some HoTs kits

[@justanscv]

@@sekischro5093 Abathur is a classic but probs wouldn’t work for league. He’s a global yuumi that summons extra minions, can place mines, and has an ult that allows him to become a copy of a friendly champ for some time. Deathwing is a proper dragon, he’s immune to all stuns, has a massive health pool, but can’t get buffed or healed by allies. Sgt. Hammer can root herself to gain massive range, as in outranging turrets. Ragnaros can take over building for a short time to become a massive stationary threat and has an ult that just sends a wave of lava all the way down a lane, killing all enemy minions. Murky can place a mobile respawn point that allows him to respawn much faster(it can be found and destroyed) and is worth only a quarter of the xp a normal champ is worth but with much lower hp. None of this even touches on the fact that instead of items every champ has a UNIQUE set of upgrades they get as they level up that can completely change their abilities and each champ get one of two ultimates to choose from

[@nissenor741]

@@sekischro5093 Deathwing can't be healed or buffed by his allies but litteraly a raid boss. Abathur (What yumi should have been) can teleport anywhere his team has vision and can give small buffs to any ally anywhere on the map, but has ~300 HP (Usual ~1000-1500) and required to be close to danger to fully realise other abilities. Xerathul has Eve"s passive except he is not reveal when close to enemies (even towers) and he is mid tier. CHO'GALL IS PLAYED BY 2 PEOPLE AT THE SAME TIME.

[@Orionhound]

Dota released a patch that gave every character yet ANOTHER skill variation, yet League here is innovating with the 15th burn dot item, immensely boring contentless game.

[@irfanbakri1199]

This is why I like Dota 2 for now. They bring the big update that really change the game, making the game feel fresh to play. While League is almost still the same. With how they keep releasing new champions, only few of them like can fit in this current meta while in Dota almost all heroes is playable even though they got almost the same numbers of playable characters

[@lucasnadamas9317]

32:51 calling the voyvoy thing a "murder suicide" is so funny lol

[@kiramastercrack]

I'm so fucking happy for you. I quit league like 4 years ago and never been happier.

[@KillerBsan_]

Tell me about the legends... Is grass a real thing? How does it feel? How does it smell? I hope to see it one day, just one more game...

[@tankenjoyer1891]

i quit league 7months ago and was like "no i remember it was fun" then i locked in renekton and coudnt find goredrinker and i uninstalled

[@AONTrappy]

LOL died the moment riot tried to limit true diversity in the name of diversity with the removal of niche items, abilities, and interactions throughout the years. In addition, the noob friendly features with pure RNG mechanics that were introduced in the past few years has made this game a chore.

[@MrPronGogh93]

Dont know if you ever read this hash, but i feal you: i went with a crazy ex that moved herself in my house without invitation, few weeks after starting dating, from 40km away, live half a year without helping in any miningful way (not even cooking or cleaning her own thrash), living on my back, after i also found her a job 50mts from my house, and then after i break with her, after the third time she tried to "suicide" (just a way to draw attention), i found out for thr whole time she was accusing me, behind my back, that i was beating her while drunk, or talking/dating other girls and many more shitty stuffs. The fun part was that people close to me (not relatives), believed her, not me, despite i never hurted anyone in my entire life, untill it was safe to back up me. So yes, i sympathise you and wish you can move on

[@pinopalotta]

You are weak, become strong

[@foreignfat6009]

@@pinopalotta Dude. Just why?

[@AvatarUnix]

Now you're free, thank you for everything

[@fistofram5526]

This is the way he makes money. He'll be back. It's usually done to boost views after a bit, it'll be on reddit and bla bla bla...

[@Lunatikk]

@@fistofram5526 Did you even watch the video? He literally said he might eventually return to the game.

[@fistofram5526]

@@Lunatikk Why are you adding nothing to my comment you fool? lol

[@knife1406]

league fucked up by forcing roles, every game has to have a ranged adc + support bot, every game has to have a jungler, of course it's going to get stale, theres only so much you can do with such a cookie cutter format. Also making their audience install a root kit was lmao I drank the dota koolaid years ago but if you want to get away from mobas I understand too

[@RandomXse1245]

Yup same, but with the new update I made my friends finally switch to dota, after like 9 years. The main problem with League is that people can choose their role. 100% where league turned into garbage. Every single player is an inflated one or two trick. People do not understand how to play with and for other roles, they have no concept of it. They either grief when autofilled or boost themselves on their mains. It promotes toxicity it slows down innovation of how the game is played. Just overall destroys the game

[@MrPronGogh93]

​@@RandomXse1245 i started before role selection was added (s2) and to be honest, most of the time past silver, if you had a good WR players would let you play your main role and main champ regardless.

[@TheWeirdKiddGaming]

yeah and then when people play something that ISNT this way (fasting senna/ funnel strat) its nerfed into the ground and is unplayable

[@RandomXse1245]

@@MrPronGogh93I started playing at the very start of season 3. I agree with you to a certain point. I oversimplified and there are other factors, such as build websites and websites that spoonfeed you the meta. Back then you could get your role often, but sometimes people would use pick order, sometimes it was call order. But often people just would not respect it, or you would be dealt the losing hand. It enforced having more diverse champion pool, you would need to develop your own pocket picks, that you could whip out. The game just was not so streamlined and hyperoptimized. Onetricks existed, but nowadays that is all there is, people just dodge when they do not get their role or champ. Everyone is running a meta build with runes and items they are recommended, they do not know all of the champion interactions. That is why you can see at least 2 people using suboptimal runes and items every game even in dia elo. People just read their whole gameplay from the internet and are never forced to get out of their comfort zone and when they are forced out, they just grief one game offrole and go right back.

[@Jack-s9x5h]

I really don't know what they have done to this season, but it's a completely joke. I quit league at the end of season 13 and just came back in 1 week ago. The current state of the game is unrecognizable. I easily got Grandmaster at flex and Master at solo in season 13, and now I can't even get out of D4 with negative winrate (which is something new for me). For almost 20 games straight my team is getting outclassed and there's no way to carry 1v9 this season as ADC. I played even on a Silver account thinking I'll relax a little bit, but it was the opposite. The smurfs are everywhere and this game is d3ad. They have roulette-like matchmaking and I feel like they blacklisted my IP or something like this. I know it sounds like a conspiracy, but you can't just have straight apes for 20+ games in a row on different accounts on 3 different regions at the same time. So rito really wants you to get stuck and frustrated and to think that you are worse than the last season, that's how they want to hurt your ego/pride, so you'll play even more to reach that division. Do not even attempt to play ranked without a duo this season, I played only solo and it's the worst experience to date. Btw, I'm playing from season 4 and this season (14) is the worst season I have ever seen in my life. They destroyed the game for good, it's not even fun to play anymore. And don't believe what they say that this game is still very popular. It is legit d3ad.

[@redangel6217]

One of the most underappreciated league content creators ever, we'll see you in variety and if things get better hopefully around here again too.

[@ryanhefner2011]

League is irreparably damaged. There are too many champions, and it's just too daunting for new players. So even more than when I started in S1, you have to tolerate loser ego-chasing, gold-peaking, smurfs grinding your will to play into dust. Then, the game changes way too much, way too fast, we just had the Items reworked, and it had to be done again. Damage+Mobility+Engage Range creep has made the game generally unfun, Yone jumping from the edge of your screen with one item and melting you like steel beams is not fun, the outplay potential simply doesn't exist sometimes. Less important but the graphical fidelity of the game is well beyond dated. I could drone on and on, but the only way league is every good again is with a sequel, that starts over with less champions and is better balanced and designed all around.

[@RandomXse1245]

League actually does not change enough, they just change annoying stuff that you have to read to keep up with meta. But no actual good meaningful changes to the game ever occur. And about graphics, I do not mind the look but like 2 years ago when they added cinematic trailers to the game client the game started using 4 times the memory and cpu, even before Vanguard. Couple of years back I could run this game 6 times over on my pc, suddenly I am getting fps drops while teamfighting and can barely keep at 60 fps, like what?! I even played it o gforce now and got drops, why can I play juiced path of exile maps but can not keep stable fps in League? What a joke

[@ryanhefner2011]

@RandomXse1245 I played league on a gaming laptop that I bought in 2012, and it got FPS in excess of 200 way back when. The game used to be optimized to run on a toaster. Now my 12700k+3080 only just gets 265FPS needed for my monitor. And I agree, their changes are rarely meaningful or helpful, it just feels random, like shuffling the deck.

[@MrPronGogh93]

​@@RandomXse1245you can disable the cinematics btw

[@RandomXse1245]

@@MrPronGogh93 does not help the performance much if at all, it is just an issue that came to be as soon as they added it. I disabled it immediately

[@MrPronGogh93]

@@RandomXse1245 when I disabled it, I stopped having problems, but that was 2 years ago

[@lucian8351]

In the Old Testament it is written how God took away Samsons strength when he lost his hair, and just like with Samson, God struck you down and slowly took away everything you loved and cherished when you casted away your mane

[@danneltheflannel]

Lel truuuue

[@eduard_8808]

I am glad I quit league before the vanguard update. also, I remember having so much anxiety back when the drama happened, I tried backing you up on twitter so many times, but league community doesnt listen to facts. glad I left this shitty ass game and community. I actually joined WH40K universe recently, got my first ever minis and some videogames, so looking for your other channel now

[@dankmemes8254]

So you went from E-crack To plastic crack

[@Azun_Kurone]

I'm still around, it sucks cuz I really do still enjoy the game but trying to interact with people who don't want to reciprocate rlly sucks. I haven't been playing much over the past year or so because I got into VGC (Pokemon) instead. That's been way more fulfilling, as I've gone to a few events and met some awesome people, and it's a lot easier to track your progress as a player in 1v1 than 5v5

[@nova3129]

We will support you whatever you decide to do Hash ❤

[@DevolaPopola]

i also think that a lot of the game being shit rn is because a lot of the people who played this game back during the “glory days” have stopped playing because they just simply grew up (me included). obligations, responsibilities, blah blah blah gets in the way, and compiled with the rest of the problems you mentioned, has turned many people away. for me personally, why the fuck would i hop on a game where 50/50 i dont get to have fun at all for 20+ minutes because of toxic people/unfun meta? i only have so much free time, unlike my younger self who seems to have infinite amounts of it. why would i want to waste the precious couple of hours i have after all my responsibilities being unhappy, when i can just hop on another game and have so much more fun being away from toxic assholes ?

[@obsessedwithcats]

I think it's just corporate Chinese company that own 90% of media trying to appeal to as many players as possible by dumbing down the game's mechanics and making it addictive and accessible to as many people as possible. Then we have the RP prices increasing while lowering the amount received, absurd skin prices (gacha and Hall of Legends), horrible damage and mobility creep to make everyone feel like the main character, people feed off that dopamine injection watching your LP go up or making a good play. League at its best is a fantastic experience, people are just chasing that high for thousands of games, hoping they'll pop off again, but with the nature of the game now, it's becoming rarer and rarer. I can't remember the last time I saw a pentakill in a game before. The fed carry is usually dead by the time the 3rd kill happens.

[@DevolaPopola]

@@obsessedwithcats hard agree on the chinese company part. remember when garena was a thing? the literal crypto mining app that also featured those gacha elements and setting their own prices? yeah, riot shut them down just for them to do the same shit. wow, thanks riot. very cool. and now we’re getting a $500 dollar skin! wow.

[@Xwipe1]

Man im already missing those patch notes videos they're were the peak

[@kurohyuki5912]

I can't believe somebody sat on the stairs for this community

[@hata6290]

dude this is the most gigachad ive seen hashinshin look ever, well played man, glad youre okay :)

[@franciscoreis3717]

22:27 that is absolutely true but riot doubles down on every patch. Every tim they try to buff a champion they buff all of their abilities combined sometimes more than once in just a patch and I think is just because the general community doesnt understand how much each buff can impact a champion. Back in the day changes were way more mild in general yet the game wasnt as stale

[@hunteradams3269]

Ive quit since vanguard mostly because of vanguard but i didnt play much anyways. All of these problems you say are in the high ranks are also in the low ranks. As someone whos at the bottom ranks- these are still happening. Probably smurfs but everyone takes advantage of these problems in their favor. I lose most games with the best score by a landslide in my games. I only play support. I play genuine supports not full ap excluding lux (blame riot. They ruined support lux). Im usually one 1-3 deaths and everyone else is 5-6 and usually top lane or jungle is 10+. Top lane is always counterpicked. Jungler never ganks and helps us- enemy jungler is somehow in every lane at every moment and also clearing camps in seconds. Mid lane isnt roaming My adc wont go in when i stun them or anything. They are just dumb. And then you have me that plays defensively because i dont want to feed just like everyone else. Usually i have more kills than at least one other person because im the only person thats smart enough to position correctly most of the time. For us its adc support and jungle thats hard to beat. Jungle keeps our top and mid from ever getting ahead then spends the rest of the time camping and funneling exp and gold into the adc with help from the support. Then by 10 minutes the adc is 4 levels ahead of you has 3 full items and full boots and youre dead before you can even react.

[@yasserkerbache]

Hey Hashinshin, I used to watch you quite a lot when I used to play League. I just wanted to say I am really glad to see you doing better and finally exploring other things. Much love brother

[@squeaky1963]

Expected. Pretty much anyone who's been playing this game as a streamer for as long as you have, has gone insane. Take a year or two off until it wears off and you'll realize how shit this game truly is when you come back and hopefully be cured. Will still miss your league streams

[@HeyIAmHeat]

lol i quitted League of Legends like few months ago because of college works and assignment. And decided to play Dota 2 because they have more unique things available and lots to offer than League of Legends. Do take a note that I moved from Dota 2 to League because of how light and easy it is in League but every match is super repetitive like there's no meta to it. For example if you're Mordekaiser main, you're gonna stuck with playing it at Top like you can't play it as support or ADC. If you do, people gonna report you for trolling. While in Dota 2, all heroes have no fixed role as they can be whatever they wanna be. For example, you can have Skywrath Mage, mainly for support position, you can become team carry. Moreover now, Dota have this facet stuff which make the game more enjoyable because you can select different type of abilities on the heroes you picked. Faceless Void for example can either pick Chronosphere or Time Zone as his ultimate. But yeah, gradually League is getting boring over time because how fixated it was + overly repetitive they design the Champions abilities.

[@Diminisherrr]

Mid can impact other lanes just as easily. And so can certain top champions (Quinn, Pantheon, Shen) I don't really understand your argument for the main problem being the roaming roles. For some perspective; I have been playing LoL since 2012 and only got into playing in high elo from 2019 to now playing every single role (my lowest role was my support account, only managing to achieve D2 before ragequitting the role for good) and as I also often play in the lower elos due to purchasing new accounts or boosting with my friends I definately understand the argument of riot having to make the game really boring because of them not understanding how to balance the game in such a way that its fun for all skill levels. But I certainly do not think the main problem right now is in these roaming roles. What I've noticed especially over these past 2 or so years is riot desperately trying to force a meta that is interesting to watch for professional play. Making the same champions appear over and over and over again every single champ select, while making the damage and hyperscaling so insane that there is always a risk to throwing making the games feel more risky. It's way easier now to do comeback and throw than ever before, this in combination with random teammates makes soloQ a horrible experience. THAT is the main problem.

[@BoneWalker]

How much y'all wanna bet voyboy has some skeletons in his closet he's been trying to obfuscate by starting shit up about hash?

[@Junomybeloved]

Man its sad to see a person like you who had so much passion for the game be killed for no reason :( I loved watching your rants and patch notes reviews because i could really hear that you loved the game and wanted it to get better im so sad because of all that happend

[@TabernadeRex]

I followed the drama that happened with you, your ex and your voyboy boy and it showed me that no matter how much you try to prove to people that you are innocent of what they accused you of, they will still prefer to harass you instead of trying to understand you What annoys me the most about all this is the fact that the person who accused you of all this is exempt and continues as if nothing had happened, and that the only one who ends up being harmed was you. I'm sorry if my english is hard to understand, i don't usually type this much on this language. I hope that one day you can find peace and justice from all of this.

[@messwithhelpy]

K'Sante rework called 4 months early... ROFLMAO

[@maximus2463]

I have quitted league for about 2 months . Game isnt fun , my friends only care about ranked when I do not care about it. Skin prices are off the roof , and 99% of the time its the most generic skins I've ever seen. Balance is rotten to the core , buff the already strong champions just because the pro players cant dominate with them on every single game they play . Also , reworking champions and stripping them of their personality without giving an alternative to the players that prefered the old champion ( I still wont forget you Asol ) . Not to mention, the uninteresting events ( except this last one because the swarm gamemode saves it ) , the lost of the winter map , twisted treeline . Aram and normal are full of Toxics , Main Characters and smurfs, making the game imposible to enjoy. And on top of that , a Chinese spyware as a requirement to play the game. League has extended itself way past its limits , and it gets to the point of tiredness

[@ai.mond-taro7642]

I'm from Viet Nam. I've been watching you since before Aatrox's reworked. It's sad that you quit but tut the state of League these days is quite depressed and it's very difficult to have fun while playing. Wishing you good health and if possible, come back one day soon.

[@theredwedge9446]

Same man. I got off the league drug. Been playing for like 5 years straight, the only game I played. But since 2024 I really quit.

[@just-dave-it9204]

Even though I do also keep an eye on your variety channel I did wonder why there was no more league content. Thanks for the proper announcement.

[@FunFunFun120]

Sorry but nothing has changed in years, it's still exactly the same as it was in s2. If you want to 'fix' league add a 4th lane, remove support, enlarge the map so the jungle isn't always 20s from any lane.

[@ratas258]

Even worse about faker name, he never used skins :)) If you want to respect that skin should be free

[@SinisterChud]

Fully agree with this. Its just no way to have fun, theres no skill expression. It's boring, stale and toxic. Gameplay patches are not shipped with balance in mind, its to please a rotation of player bases every now and then.

[@Oda-hv]

Thanks for the heads up hash. I think I feel the same way about the game, and decided to quit before vanguard. Best thing that ever happened to me, I get to play some cool games id always wanted to try, I get to watch other content because I no longer have to "keep up with every change in league" and even though I'm still trying to find that dopamine rush of winning a lost game, I'm having a blast. PS: your community is the best because we like the kind of person/streamer you are, no matter what the game is, your content will be fun to watch. So follow your heart my dude, play what you feel like playing, we'll be there with you. PSS: I'd really love a 12 hours Skarbrand campaign, I know I have a lot to learn, but it's just entertaining to get knowledge from your playthrough.

[@taekwon4980]

ur so innocent actually thinking jgs go for paths and that's why they're right there at the right time every time, they don't do any of that they just sit there and wait, as long as necessary to kill u. just watch vods when u die like that

[@rwx-zach]

I have been feeling the same about League. Increasingly got pissed at it, and eventually stopped playing it. Vanguard finally made me uninstall it, just don't morally agree with it. I remember I first found your Twitch stream in 2018/2019. Thanks for streams/funny videos.

[@AvengedKittyLP]

I am playing little ranked but I am focusing on some other games and some TFT/Arena. I am getting back into DOTA 2 though.

[@DatsDope]

Hash, go read the comments on voyboys post, I read nothing but support for you. Let the fear go, you're good my dude.

[@confleyz5315]

Almost a year since a uninstalled league of legends, but instead of playing something else I installed dota 2, not perfect but definetly having more fun playing dota 2 than I ever did playing league

[@Lordrakeenov]

Maybe you just love mobas?

[@FuckYoutube-wf1wh]

​@@Lordrakeenovyou love gay

[@jeanpierrepolnareff9919]

Nah i cant play dota2, feels like driving an old farming truck while lol feels like a car.

[@confleyz5315]

@@jeanpierrepolnareff9919 ? don't think I understand what you're saying

[@1lik3Fir33mbl3m]

@@confleyz5315 Dota feels slower and not as smooth to him, pretty sure that is what he means with his analogy

[@danielroy7372]

Hashinshin, I don't know if you'll read this but come give Dota 2 a shot even for a week.

[@giceism2832]

It's been 10+ years since I've first started watching you. I don't play league 6+ years now. Always been a good dude, take care. Wish you all the best

[@sickosavant5152]

Hardcore Classic WoW > Shitty LoL

[@Wawza14Gameplays]

Hash, your League content has always been a interesting for me to watch, see a brutally honest take on the state of the game from your pov and here we are, after around twelve years of ups and downs for League it seems the sentiment of the community about the game being downhill is finally setting in for a lot of people, me included. Your channel was basically the only thing left that I watched that was League related, mostly due burnout after such a long time but also sharing most of your views on many different occasions and loving to hear your takes and of course hearing a good rant lol. Will miss your league related content but will look forward to what you will be making in the variety channel (EU5 hype) o7

[@kurt7937]

Because you dont conform to the social normatives of the league community people pounced on you like hyenas and continue to do so despite you being innocent. People dont care about the truth, they crave someone they can attack with wanton hatred without repercussions and they see a person who is an easy target due to not having a great standing in the league community, because you dont care about that aspect (just an inference, i dont know you, but i see similarities in you). It is an appalling and perfect display of the subconscious hurdles people thoughtlessly jump through to feel good in a sadistic and ignorant way. Nothing is better than justifiable rage. Im sorry that happened to you.

[@ToTheGrave20]

He still sexted a 15yo

[@senatorimamoglu3888]

14:53 yes he is, another rework is on development currently

[@kingofjune]

There was one part where you were talking about League being in a 3 year cycle, and it reminded me that old Dota was like that too. I don't exactly remember the order but it was something like this: 1st year: Stall Meta 2nd Year: Push Meta 3rd Year: Gank Meta 4th Year: back to Stall Meta cycle continues Stall meta was boring as f bcos you had to wait until late game, Push was boring bcos there were more tower kills than actual kills, then it was gank meta with a lot of kills. Then Valve was like, "wait a minute, why not just make every year gank meta?" Then Dota was fun every year,especially in esports, gank meta was WAAAAY better to watch as well

[@abogmus8904]

chen, lycan and beastmaster give me ptsd to this day

[@kingofjune]

@@abogmus8904 and the game ends with 3 kills in 25 minutes XD

[@MrPronGogh93]

​@@kingofjune old league, once you ended up on higher ranks, used to have the first kill at 10 minutes of gametime on avarage, but overhaul there was more action since a single AA was not a commitment over a kill and snowball.

[@cosmicbard6998]

2:00 My god, the big hit of nostalgia from that was quite something. I adored that map so much, I remember even doing a semi challenge run where I tried to destroy the whole base of the enemy. I completely feel you, btw. I still love League, and it has given me loads of pleasant memories and experiences, but sometimes, things just get stale and annoying, and I just completely loose my will to play for like, multiple months, sometimes even longer. (And it certainly doesn't help that my all time favorite champion - Aurelion Sol - was replaced with a less enjoyable and less balanced champion that looks and sounds exactly like him, over a year ago.... that "rework" was certainly the biggest killer of my desire to play) Arena and other fun things still have a tendency to bring me back, though right now, I've been having a weird issue where the play button in the client just.... doesn't work, and I couldn't figure out a way to fix it. So I suppose I'll be quitting for a while too xd

[@megadumbo6]

im gonna be blunt here, league of legends is bad

[@dankmemes8254]

Most cold take in history

[@Hydra_X9K_Music]

It used to be fun but over the years it changed for the worst in my opinion

[@megadumbo6]

True

[@SuperBlackatude]

Its tough to quit but now that ive been gone for at least a year i dont even think about logging on. Riot dont care about their game, only how they can milk the people who are addicted for more copy paste skin money. I legit have more fun playing Blizzards Heros of the Storm which is a dead game but still has players and shorter queues than league when i get that "play a quick game" kick

[@symboliccrow]

I really hope shinshin can quit league and still continue with his channel successfully. Dudes been dealing with the league bs for way too long.

[@D-mac777]

Nice Hash, I quit about 2 weeks ago and Im honestly way happier playing other variety of games that Ive been neglecting on my steam library ETC. I mainly quit because vanguard started bricking my PC for 0 reason and was disconnecting me from internet for 3 to 15 seconds randomly even when league wasnt open. I had a internet tech guy come out and it wasnt on their end. I uninstalled vanguard and league and it instantly fixed the problem...

[@SoloVersusSquad]

My computer doesn't run TPM 2.0 and I can't play League anymore, so I was forced out I'm finally free

[@zeusjukem9484]

meanwhile i downgraded to w10 so i can keep playing ARAM

[@stenlysaid]

Unrelated but the goatee really suits you.

[@Hashinshin]

Thank you I got it from forgetting to shave

[@TheSorrowfulAngel]

I really agree with you on the problem with not just league, but also the community as a whole. I also don't think this kind of community can sustain itself very well. Ive watched a lot from your second channel and hope there'll be more "produced" videos. Truth to be told, I am not much of a stream guy - I dont have the time and its often just too slow for me(great for when Im doing chores, though x). I also get unreasonably annoyed by chat >.> But it'd be nice to see stuff like properly edited lets plays or something. And your reviews are awesome. Rarely do you find reviews that feel so... honest. Most reviews ignore the negatives a little bit too much. Not that I think that is necessarily wrong - but your reviews just give a clearer picture while still being pretty positive when you are reviewing something you enjoyed.

[@1235q]

Hash, please try Heroes of the Storm. It's super fun, it's Blizzard's only game they haven't destroyed yet, it's easy to pick up, games are quick and there's a lot of maps. I'd watch a stream of you playing it! :)

[@fistofram5526]

Full of braindead players.

[@bryceybiscuts3364]

You know man i really appreciate you. I wont lie I haven't been watching your actual gameplay as of much lately, not for lack of respect but league isn't it for me too much anymore. Your balance patch videos have been the only thing Ive been watching recently since yours are by far the best out of any to exist. You do such a good job of describing the changes they will bring and i will miss having you talk about them in the background. I will of course respect your decision to quit since you are a adult man that isn't bound to do something you hate. I can only hope you find success doing something different even though I wont be there to watch you grow in a new direction. If you do come back I hope it will be because you genuinely wanted to and are doing well outside of league. Good day to you mate and have a good life. keep it up!

[@Reaperl97]

i will miss the patch videos and arena content but still i will always love more the variety content

[@Kodama867]

It's a sobering feeling seeing one of the OG League content creators quit at least for the time being. But hope you find happiness.

[@kardaneg112]

The game is very dead. I started playing it in 2018, even though the game was probably way past it's peak at this point, it felt like it's still quite popular. There were league-related videos on youtube with easily more than a 100k views from different content creators. Cinematics and music videos gained huge attention and attracted some new players. After vanguard update I went to an internet cafe because I still wanted to play league for some time before I quit for good. On EUW during day time on weekends estimated time for finding a game (normal draft) was 2 minutes. For soloQ it's nearly 1 minute or a bit less. 2 years ago I never really had to wait for a normal game on EUW even a 20 seconds. And the worst part is, even on high end PC you have to wait for at least 3 minutes during loading screen. Combine it with draft time that also wastes your time. For arena mode some games took fucking ages to load in for some reason. I don't know whether it's because people have performance issues with vanguard, or riot fucked up their code or both. But vanguard update for sure dropped active playerbase numbers down and it's never felt worse to play this game than now.

[@rafeeqj8371]

i randomly searched you up after all these years to see what you up to and i see you quit, how ironic. I stopped playing long time ago and i remember the first time when it was the best to play for me. When noob me and noob teammates were clumsily trying to beat bots and I'm talking about beating old galio lol. It was fun times. Then when i moved over to solo que it was not fun anymore. Farewell Shinshin you were an awesome streamer when i watched you back in the day, Peace out

[@kinhahaha7161]

The fact that people think a random streamer is a better investigator than the actual FBI is proof of why we, as humans, have failed as a species.

[@tamas9554]

@@Alesanahxc And whats the proof of that?

[@jeroenceulemans3715]

Wow! I legit needed you to tell me that even normals (I don't play ranked because I work full-time, and it does not feel worth it) do not feel fun because of indeed: I don't want to have to track jungle and support and manage objectives and contribute to vision, especially when many of my teammates don't seem to care to be serious or also just don't feel like paying attention to said things. And I this 100% sincerely, not sarcastic at all. I appreciate that you showed me how Riot does take us hostage by making the game about this competitive and pushing people to do better while not really trying to make that a fun experience; we forget that LoL is a videogame and a videogame is supposed to be fun. I enjoy my arams with my friends because when the game goes badly it feels like not our fault and we can shrug it off more. I really think that is a large component of it, at least. Secondly, I get you when it comes to the LoL community. It's a group of people that feeds on drama; lashing out at other creators and I am too mature to care. I like (you,) Hashinshin, and I think my favourite Hashinshin moments were when you/he genuinely enjoyed talking about lore; being engaged with viewers and, for example, playing BG3 and having a good time with friends. They are streams I have enjoyed rewatching multiple times, even.

[@ChaddyFantome]

Personally, i think making it possible to choose your role before entering games was a mistake. Change my mind.

[@zeusjukem9484]

member pick order? i member!

[@ChaddyFantome]

@@zeusjukem9484 I also remember team builder. Didn't work because queues took too long. Letting people pick roles made people only play 1 thing every time

[@zeusjukem9484]

@@ChaddyFantome i actually preferred pick order as it forced most people to actually understand the game by playing every role