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[@nicks210684]

I think I’d have probably called the clock on you guys on the turn 😂 Joking, good analysis.

[@splitsuit]

lol, cheers John!

[@jonathanlozano5008]

thanks for asking james how he was :)

[@splitsuit]

#ChrisCares

[@eggsbacongritsandsausage8178]

Chris is a very good contributor.

[@virajs.8864]

Great Video - Couple points: 1) On the turn, would a shove be a more profitable play than a smaller overbet or 2/3 as hero played it? 2) if so, is a 50% check, 25% overbet and 25% shove fairly reasonable? I’d be curious what a solver said 3) regarding what Chris said at 23:35 about not having 33 in a standard range. I understand UTG should not be calling a 3 bet with a low pocket pair but I think you have to consider that this is 10 NL... people continue with almost any pairs and since they opened so small, .60 is considered not too much for 10 NL players... Thoughts?

[@timelkin838]

That's a great question and I honestly don't know. Hope James can give us his thoughts.

[@bestbotreview]

Gto wizard prefers 75% on turn I’d have thought over bet or at least psb. I see psb pretty often here on these 2 flush draw turns. I’m guessing the issue is it’s a 3b pot vs utg where they should be pretty strong so that’s why 75% makes more sense than risking more with an over bet I’m Gonna look at same board but from late positions

[@bradjones7835]

Really interesting hand and great analysis. Hero's line makes a lot of sense if villain is a tight, thinking opponent. Villain's min-raise under the gun makes me question that assumption though. Also, Hero's image may affect the validity of this play too: Three-betting A5s then running a triple barrel bluff with an overbet looks like something I'd expect a LAG to do. If this is a regular play, rather than a change up, I think it'd be hard to get this to work. The more other players classify you as a LAG, the wider I'd expect their calling ranges to be. That makes it hard to run a bluff line requiring an opponent to be able to fold pocket tens through queens. Loved the idea of the overbet on the turn. (With the right hero/villain). That's a really cool idea.

[@splitsuit]

Cheers Brad!

[@MrRockajill]

Just my amateur thoughts on this. I don't think i'm shoving the river. His min raise makes me put him on something weakish like a suited 7 or pocket 3s. He could potentially have pocket nines+ here, but i dont think he min raises those preflop. If I shove the river i dont think he would ever fold trip 7s or pocket threes in this spot, and i dont see to many weaker hands like 9,10s or 2,3s sticking around (that would fold to a shove). So i dont see why shoving would be a good idea because i think we have close to 0% fold equity. The hands he would stick around with to the river, that we beat, is either a busted straight of busted flush draw. And we already beat those, unless he has a king. Not saying this is the best move, but I would check back the river and hope for the best.

[@vladbcom]

Love nerding out on poker. Please make a follow-up talking about different turn actions. 5 for an example...

[@omerperetz8426]

hey, is it possible to have a hud stat which shows you % of flop cb for instance taking sizing into account? like lets say how often a players cbets less than 40% pot and how often over that? thanks

[@karlinchina]

I'd be thinking a lot of AK, AQ, 22, 44-66, 88. These hands need a small overbet on the turn.

[@nicks210684]

Triple barrel into a flopped set and turned full house. This guy picks his spots to run a bluff as well as me 😂 I remember one time triple barrelling with AK with a flush draw (that never came in) on a J high board. Guy flips over JJ that he’d called my 3 bet with for a flopped top set 😂

[@splitsuit]

Rule 291: It's really tough to get someone to fold top set

[@TheOrangeRoad]

Not raising a set with 2 diamonds on there was a mistake, but it worked in the villains favor

[@drchaffee]

How do you adjust these cash game videos to MTTs?

[@infosneakr]

1. That's why you don't chase flush draws on a paired board. 2. If he had checked the turn like the other guy had said, villain probably would have led out on turn so hero could have folded. 2A. If villain checked turn and bluffed river, the bluff wouldn't have been as big amd villain would have jammed river and it would have been an easy fold

[@splitsuit]

2. If I'm understanding that "if hero checked the flop and villain bet the turn..." then hero should NOT fold against the turn bet =)

[@nicks210684]

You’re checking the flop in position with the nut flush draw and then folding to a single bet on the turn when you don’t make it? That’s incredibly nitty. You’d be better off folding A5 suited preflop if that’s your line.

[@johnmalto3392]

They really couln't have 3's there. Sometimes they run into the nuts. Turn should be a check-back I think, that's why betting half pot is not so appealing. I don't also want to bluff with A5s on the river. Yeah sometimes we make terrible mistakes.

[@techhash9042]

Cheers guys for your insight! Great content as usual! Can you answer please one question: if we increase sizing of 3 bet lets say we do it x3.5 would it be more complicated for villain to have 33 then in this spot?

[@halabak]

Had the same thought

[@splitsuit]

If villain is calling 3x with all pocket pairs, they probably do the same at 3.5x imo

[@privychanneldavy]

at 17:58 James forgets he's on camera and takes a big swig from his Vodka bottle. I also did this during a recent business meeting on Zoom, it's an easy mistake to make

[@splitsuit]

lol. It's a 1L Smartwater, and way more refreshing than vodka

[@liampucab9010]

@privychanneldavy if you’re confusing Smartwater bottles for Svedka fam, you might be an alcoholic…

[@grindix]

if UTG has 87 suited and 76 suited in his range isn't he over-defending vs 3 bet? seems like those hands would tend to be towards the bottom end of a LJ (utg 6 max) opening range and not top 30%-40%.

[@evaccative]

Hey guys, I like your videos. I like how split reps explotitive play, and barry white reps GTO. Obviously, you both think the other is valid and it leads to a good discussion. Here's a suggestion: I think it'd be cool if, one time, you guys disagreed, got pissed off and argued against each other.

[@ThePokerBank]

Haha hate to disappoint but we've been collaborating nearly 15 years and it's mostly this. Maybe some day I'll figure out a way to troll James but I'd have to be really clever not to get snap called!

[@splitsuit]

@@ThePokerBank It would have to be reeeeeeeeeally clever lol

[@donatasbernotas1172]

I think it was mistake because if the villain is TIGHT and called two streets means he really has something if its calling station or maniac in any case he will call even he has only A9.

[@splitsuit]

But can that tight player fold TT-QQ on the river? That's key =)

[@SFreedberg1]

Did Chris say on the river that with a balanced range that he would be bluffing with 15% or 50% of the time? Thanks.

[@norsekongsvinger7846]

15%

[@jeremylynskey9265]

You mentioned preflop is either a 3 bet or fold in this position with A5s but not call. What is the reasoning behind not just calling preflop?

[@splitsuit]

Our strategic simplification essentially removes calling a 2bet from anywhere but the BTN or BB with no other callers =)

[@dxfifa]

Ask yourself; what do you do vs a BTN squeeze?

[@connork509]

If I already own flopzilla pro what’s the cost to get your version of it? Do I have completely rebuy it? Or is there like an upgradable option?

[@splitsuit]

Email me and let me know your situation. [e-mail]

[@GSB38]

I lost a big hand playing high stakes hold’em . I had AQ ❤️ in Sb vs 10❤️♠️ in BB. Flop came 9♥️5♥️3♦️. I bet pot , BB very aggressive cannon puts me all in, and I shrugged called. I was 54% fav. But it came brick brick and I lost a very big pot 🤦🏻‍♂️ 😵😵😵😵😵

[@GSB38]

I raised preflop from Sb, agro Bb player re raised and I called. The pot was already big preflop and it continued

[@jeremiahmitchell6420]

I luff u guyz

[@sareykim]

understatement. i appreciate these 2 dudez.

[@splitsuit]

The feeling is mutual

[@mariusalexandru7141]

It's a very hard hand to analyse and ya I would bluff but that 2nd 7 I would bet small very small see what he does with that something like 20 cent. Then I would say Dam I need a flush

[@splitsuit]

It's always brutal when you river the flush in a spot like this and yet still lose the pot, lol

[@mariusalexandru7141]

@@splitsuit yes of course lost plenty of times with some one having a full house. This is probably one of the hardest hand to play and one of the biggest leaks I have

[@mariusalexandru7141]

@@splitsuit I still remember the last time I lost with this hand A high flush he rivered 4 of a kind on the river. Now that I'm talking about it. It may be in printed in my mind. Thank you

[@splitsuit]

@@mariusalexandru7141 anytime =)

[@TheMightyDie]

I'm a noob who needs something explained please. Why is ½ pot the default bet on the flop? If I flop a flush draw, I'm looking at a full pot bet default and then working from there, usually. Thanks in advance!

[@splitsuit]

Let's go the other way...why are you betting full pot there? What other hands are you betting full pot with there?

[@TheMightyDie]

@@splitsuit thanks for the quick reply! I'm expecting the flush to work out about ⅓ of the time, so betting full pot gives me the odds to match that. I could also have an overpair or top pair, but I don't know if my full pot bet would also suit those. I guess you're saying that I'm telegraphing my hand (or at least narrowing it down)

[@splitsuit]

@@TheMightyDie You certainly could be telegraphing your hand strength by doing that, yes

[@TheMightyDie]

@@splitsuit got my hard copies of the SplitSuit work books this morning, so hopefully I'll have a better understanding before long 👍

[@splitsuit]

@@TheMightyDie Awesome. Enjoy them!

[@lasseindergaard6487]

Its 5c/10c they neva fold!!🥴👎

[@D-Lew314]

Bro can you please go back to reviewing hands on your own? This dude Chris has completely taken over. We might as well just watch his channel. Or can you do more Ask Splitsuit by yourself

[@splitsuit]

Aren't 2 heads better than 1?

[@collegefraud1308]

I've gotten into some baad spots when i've made my flush/nut flush and villain shows me full house🥲