Leandros Accuses Titus of being a Heretic SCENE - WARHAMMER 40K

[@mr.international2778]

I think the one thing that makes me mad is that leandross does not deserve the unmatched dripp of a space marine chaplain

[@Nyarlatha]

That and the Bolters being shit in SM2... I have words for GW. Harsh, heretical words.

[@rungunninja1289]

@@Nyarlathato be fair it’s the generic so it’s either balance or underpowered because it’s the generic option. Here’s hoping the it’s buffed.

[@sercravenmohead3631]

Well he isn’t wrong to act on his suspicions and he’s somewhat justified, Primarch of the Ultramarines created the codex Astartes and the context surrounding that was making a guiding rule book and checks and balances for the Astartes chapters. People forget the Horus Heresy was an Astartes rebellion led by their primarchs because without the regulation the legions were too powerful so they needed to be broken up into chapters and they had to abide by the codex. Chaos corruption is extremely potent and sometimes it manifests slower than right away, this is a threat that should be excessively rooted out or else the Imperium will get engulfed in it. The whole space marine project in my view has been a failure, half of them are traitors and if you review each loyalist chapter half of those are practically renegades. It looks extreme what Leandros did but with the wider context of 40k you can never be too careful. He actually makes a great Chaplin in this regard lol.

[@darthode]

⁠@@sercravenmohead3631sound reasoning. Leandros followed the rules to a T while Some live by the phrase “there’s always exceptions to the rules” which in some cases can lead to catastrophic consequences. And that’s how the line between what’s acceptable and what’s not can be blurred.

[@ReiseLukas]

​@@darthode there should always be a balance between following the rules and charting your own path. Those who go too far either way usually don't end well. Strictly following rules makes you an unfeeling machine of the system, too much going your own way makes you lost and liable to make grave mistakes.

[@matthewgibbs6886]

leandros broke the codex by not going through the chain of command.

[@knightzix_01]

Yeah we know The Guy went from Codex compliant To Ratting him out to an inquisitor to Literally being a Inquisition hater Yes Its cannon Chaplains see them as Fuckin Insane fanatics

[@franyya1048]

@@knightzix_01ngl if a chaplain call you an insane fanatic that means you hit straight up bottom

[@knightzix_01]

@@franyya1048 they prefer to handle problems internally Rather then what leandros did they do that for a reason i think leandros character development is being kind of redeemed so far not completely there yet But it certainly In the right direction i mean compare to how they last met HE literally Welcomed titus back into the ultramarines Himself he helped him Realise his redemption Lies With the ultramarines the ultras clearly Calgar reprimanded as a pennance he joined the chaplains Something like that Cancel Reply

[@InsanoRider777]

There are no words to describe how big a fuck-up this was.

[@kado3661]

@@knightzix_01 He was forced to greet Titus, it wasn't his choice. He said it himself that the order came from Calgar and as the chaplain of the 2nd company, he has to greet him.

[@MrNuclearturtle]

The knowledge the inquisitor died to chaos corruption and got put down by the grey knights is beautiful irony

[@youdontknowme2913]

I need more context on this please, where can I read more about it. Or just Elaborate brother.

[@Gongolongo]

Bruh he was just doing his job though. It was Leandros to blame for making the call.

[@MrNuclearturtle]

@@Gongolongo not really, the inquisitor literally had a dungeon Titus was locked in for a hundred years, he took joy in probing Titus's mind, but the lad never broke

[@MrNuclearturtle]

@@youdontknowme2913 it was in a white dwarf article 498, brief overview of Titus's life and his 100 year internment by the inquisition

[@korawitbuttramee618]

@@Gongolongo Nah, Thrax is considered a radical lunatic by his fellow Inquisitors as he was notorious for irrational hatred toward Space Marines. He had no intentions to finding out Titus was corrupted or not, only to keep him prisoner indefinitely. After all, a prisoner will eventually confess their crime if you keep torturing them, and Titus was one of many astartes Thrax had in captive.

[@RecoveringLoLAddict]

"You cannot touch the warp and emerge unscathed!" Librarians, Grey Knights, fucking chapter masters and every single astartes who faces chaos on a regular basis 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@erwinsetyo1061]

Isador Akios (Librarian of Blood Ravens) and Azariah Kyras (Chapter Master of Blood Ravens) send their regard

[@roiking2740]

That depends, when they say unscathed they mean unaltered. everyone with the exception of the grey knight, has always had somekind of mark left by chaos that does not mean they are corrupted but its raise suspicions when someone appears to be compeltely unscathed the only other explanation than corruption is the Saints and that is too rare to be taken seriously.

[@sercravenmohead3631]

Titus is none of those

[@sercravenmohead3631]

Half of all the Astartes and Primarchs were corrupted and turned to Chaos

[@ComradeStrogg]

They don't use Chaos artifacts to meet their goal, iirc.

[@ryanartward]

And then, the God Emperor arose from the Golden Throne, warped to Kadaku and kneed Leandros in the balls.

[@uuamenator]

You know, the saddest thing is, even if that happened it wouldn't convince Leandros of anything. He would still twist it in his mind that it's Titus using chaos magic to blaspheme against the Emperor by summoning him and using him as a puppet in battle.

[@TJVBernal]

@@uuamenator lmao, pretty accurate characterization of leandros

[@sercravenmohead3631]

I think you guys ignore the wider context here, the Space Marine project is basically a disaster if you think about it. Why does the codex exist? The Horus Heresy, where half of all the Astartes went traitor led by their primarchs and they almost destroyed the Imperium. If you go case by case with what’s left of the loyalists, half of those chapters are renegades. So yeah Space Marines need heavy excessive regulation and control to maintain what’s left of the “objectively good Astartes”. Yeah Leandros made a bad call but his suspicions are justified in his point of view, even the smallest corruption can ruin you. They don’t call chaos the Archenemy for nothing, sometimes you’re unknowingly being purppeted by the dark gods, it’s not always this abrupt corruption.

[@ryanartward]

Why do I get the sensation that Leandros will end up being a Warp Corrupt git by Space Marine 3?

[@maddlarkin]

​@@sercravenmohead3631 2 points, 1) The Astartes project was actively sabotaged, while I suspect Big E always planned to release his 'sons' into the wild to gain experince on their own, the premature timing, before they could be fully matured, educated and trained as well as the nature of how (being flung through the warp without a Geller field) had wide ranging and seriously damaging impacts on many of the Primachs be it DNA mutation to serious psychological issues. 2) Leandros broke chain of command and ratted outside the chapter, if he had concerns he should of gone to the Chaplin. Chapters have been destroyed or declared Excommunicate Tratoris by the Inquisition for the exact allegation he made, it would required an agreement of the local conclave and in the case of a first founding and truly august chapter like the Ultramarines this would be one that would be extremely unlikely to be agreed especially as its a decision the High Lords would scrutinise, but the possibility existed (and isnt without president, the Wolves private war with Ordo Malleus for example), he put the entire chapter at risk and broke the codex by not following the correct protocol for reporting his suspicion.

[@LordofDungeons32]

You have earned the trust of the chapter master HE NEVER LOST IT!

[@DakkogiRauru23]

Never lost it with the company he served before exile, but because a lot of 2nd company is new faces, he did in fact earn their respect.

[@PartStupid]

He even says he was furious when he found out the Inquisition took Titus (they also later tried to take Tigorus for using Witch Sight). What gets me pissed off though is that Leandros doesn't seem to have been punished at all for breaking protocol and not going to a Chaplin first, and now he is one of all things. He should have at least given Titus some sort of apology about being wrong about him or about not taking the proper procedures back then.

[@bluequiltedness]

@@PartStupid We need a "Leandros's Penance" story line to explain why Calgar didn't make him a servitor, how he became a chaplain and why, despite everything, his attitude hasn't changed much (threatening Titus at the end of the game. Yikes.)

[@GlennReuther]

@@bluequiltedness There's an interesting theory in another comment thread that Leandros actually regrets his decision and is fulfilling his role as chaplain with all the zeal he can muster in order to protect Titus from further suspicion. I find it unlikely but that would be a very interesting twist to the much reviled character lol.

[@bluequiltedness]

@@GlennReuther I don't quite know how to mesh that theory with him threatening Titus at the end. It was just the two of them - he wasn't doing it to put on a show for an observing third party. Plus Titus already has the protection of Calgar; someone who has no problem telling the Inquisition to kick rocks when they come after Ultramarines. That said, it would be cool if something unexpected happened with Leandros. Neither a vanilla redemption arc nor him getting his predictable comeuppance would be very satisfying

[@karlttkk4298]

leandros had to go full edgelord with a bloody leather greatcoat over his armor

[@masonlee9423]

I think it's based off of the primaris chaplain model

[@MrFiremagnet]

Professional hater's uniform

[@max-zv7sf]

Clean fit, though.

[@gustavogutierrez6568]

​@@masonlee9423 yep its the chaplain model with the hoodless helmet option

[@joemama2737]

@@max-zv7sfsadly yes

[@LordHayabusa85]

“How dare you call me a heretic? Do you have any idea how many Xenos, Heretics and Daemons I killed during this campaign?”

[@wintertrooper7918]

Do you know that the chair gods don't work together it's perfectly reasonable for say khorne to have one of his killing tzeentch's pawns

[@ComradeStrogg]

That's what an Alpha Legionaire would say

[@giorgigogolashvili3097]

Yeah tell that to Huron

[@ardaarsen]

It doesnt really work with devotion. The more you are into warp and warp things the more you become one of them

[@TheRagingbull4136]

“Only an agent of chaos could withstand such warp exposure.” Are you saying that the emperors sons gene seed can’t produce something soo strong that it could beat chaos? Dunno man, that’s sounds pretty damn heretical to me. Perhaps you’ve been affected by chaos you little milk-sop, I didn’t see you rushing to sacrifice yourself for the emperors glory.

[@shadow7179]

after Horus Heresy I can see why people would be so wary about Chaos corruption, this is pre Guilliman return when Chaos is basically winning since all their points are correct in saying that Imperium was fighting for no reason in a useless war

[@sercravenmohead3631]

Heard of the Horus Heresy?

[@ReiseLukas]

​@@shadow7179 also considering how humanity had even gotten into this Grimdark future in the first place. Seems humanity progressed and regressed over and over for tens of thousands of years. The entire Imperium was made to curb that cycle. Warhammer 40k feels very anti progressive

[@cainyourkids]

There's this man called Horus Lupercal, maybe you might have heard of him.

[@PartStupid]

@@sercravenmohead3631 - They were corrupted willingly. The OP is saying that if they are trying to resist it they should be able to unless they die. Space Marine resist the temptation of Chaos all the time.

[@machinech183]

Leandros is the space marine equivalent of a hall monitor. Any other chapter and he'd have been banished to a remote outpost in the ass end of nowhere for eternity.

[@magni5648]

The dogmatic, overzealous paranoid narc got assigned the job in which dogmatism, overzealousness and paranoia are literally base requirements. It's just good HR management.

[@alithanar8]

any Space Wolf who ran to tattle to the Inquisition would have the blood eagle carved into their chest by the rest of their pack

[@cainyourkids]

Bud, Leandros is Chaplain now. He's not a hall monitor anymore; he's the fucking Prefect/School Counselor.

[@nullakjg767]

thats basically what chaplain is tho, a hall monitor for your soul lol.

[@omegaclassdestroyer]

This shit wouldnt fly under space wolves

[@throwaway5656]

months of shame 2.0 !! let's gooooo

[@rungunninja1289]

Honestly he probably have been killed for this in several chapters and even in the ultramarines being more sane then some would have probably punished him akin to the guy who took over Titus position(if you watch tts it’s the ultramarine calgur hates)

[@sercravenmohead3631]

Well the wolves are in a straight up pissing contest with the Inquisition, it wouldn’t fly because they are basically low key at war with eachother.

[@cevk]

@@rungunninja1289 I, Cato Sicarius, wish to denounce, in the strongest possible terms, your slander of my, Cato Sicarius's, standing in the Ultramarines and with my, Cato Sicarius's, current chapter master.

[@AzraelGFG]

neither would it under the dark angels.

[@colterrobertson9221]

"You’re corrupted!" "How can you be so sure?" "Cause you touched the warp and didnt get corrupted!"

[@unknowngrand3531]

Leandros probably still pissed he got called a failure.

[@wintertrooper7918]

Doubtful

[@pvtmeepmeep]

Leandos is like if I keep saying he is a heretic and being corrupted by the chaos maybe I'll get it right one of these times.

[@randomolisher]

The damned CHAPTER MASTER gave his approval and the dude still thinks Titus is corrupted…

[@UnclePunchalot]

yeah, Leandros is to fanatical, he has pre-heresy word bearer vibes. I guess Leandros'll have same mental breakdown after he finds out that Jilliman doesn't consider Emperor a deity.

[@Guardsman1037]

​@@UnclePunchalotAside from the black Templars and probably some other chapter that I don't know of must Space Marine Chapter do not consider the Emperor a God more like a powerful psyker or greatest human to have ever existed but never divinity.

[@sercravenmohead3631]

I actually think it’s the complete opposite, he’s dogmatic to the codex and for good reason. The codex exists because of the Horus Heresy, and I don’t know if you guys forgot but half of the SMs went traitor with their Primarchs. Hell, if you review what’s left of the loyalists a lot of those chapters are basically renegades or exploiting loopholes in the codex which can be dangerous. Yeah SMs need to be reigned in and controlled, they have a bad track record. Leandros makes a good Chaplin in that regard, sure he made a bad call on Titus but it’s easy to get corrupted by Chaos. Everyone hates on the Inquisition but in reality they do a pretty good job, in the context of 40k Leandros isn’t wrong for having suspicions, the Imperium almost fell because they didn’t place proper regulations on the Astartes.

[@sercravenmohead3631]

@@UnclePunchalot Well it’s ironic then because the Imperium exists now because of fanaticism and zealots. Chaos is corruption and they can only fight it by being dogmatic, the Emperor directly benefits from being worshipped because it gives him greater psyker energy with addition to the sacrifice of Psykers he consumes daily to fuel the golden throne. It’s a reluctant but beneficial to the Imperium’s survival. It allows manifestations of saints, legion of the damned, and miracles to exist that aids Imperial forces. The Emperor taking on the role of a god is what’s holding it all together, that’s why Guilleman isn’t gonna challenge the ecclesiarchy.

[@cheyennealvis8284]

They're so manly they actually let him keep his gun.

[@saifkhandaker3341]

With Big G back this would not fly anymore. We request a DLC for Space Marine 2 where Leandros the Chaplin is the final boss

[@dahandsomeguywithcoolglass8949]

Leandros and slaneesh corruption 😂

[@skyhammer1805]

I'd be happy enough just for a cutscene of Big G giving Leandros the Bart treatment. "Why you little"

[@stavros6969]

​@@dahandsomeguywithcoolglass8949 make him a tzeentech follower considering how autistic he is

[@DonaldJTrung]

I seconded this. I want a DLC in which these two duke it out in an Ultramarine or Inquisition held Court of hearing. All Pheonix Wright styles of logic and deductions set in the 40k grimdank universe.

[@sercravenmohead3631]

Girlyman created the codex Astartes

[@jennywatson2527]

Space marine 3 my guess is we're gonna fight the tau and then nurgle space marines

[@TamaraLesnow]

Slaanesh space Marines would be sth new

[@dahandsomeguywithcoolglass8949]

​@@TamaraLesnow that would be Dark Eldar invasion

[@professionalcommentstealer5271]

my guess are the Necrons

[@axios4702]

Please, no more Chaos was the true bad guy anymore, let us fight necrons.

[@nickerskine6326]

maybe we'll fight aeldari and khorn space marines.

[@nickerskine6326]

i wouldn't be surprised if Leandros decided to go rogue just to kill titus out of sheer hatred. edit:i did not think this would get so popular.

[@xXAkitokunXx]

and get clapped by titus because leandros is weak and a coward.

[@nickerskine6326]

@@xXAkitokunXx ya it would be cool to see titus kick leandros's butt.

[@wintertrooper7918]

Why would he? He actually resorts Titus. But I guess that doesn't fit in to your fantasies

[@xXAkitokunXx]

@@wintertrooper7918 it's all fantasy, stop being pretentious.

[@wintertrooper7918]

@@xXAkitokunXx there's a difference between your own delusional fantasies and what actually happens in the game

[@chrizzvt]

leandros is the typical sm who will become chaos himself oneday just like horus

[@wintertrooper7918]

Y'all are ridiculous the only thing leabdros did wrong was skipping the process yet y'all acting like he betrayed the emperor

[@Chippaization]

@@wintertrooper7918 found leandros's alt account

[@rollodenormandie8235]

because he's bald too

[@sirbiakan1527]

@@wintertrooper7918a small moment of failure can lead down the path of heresy

[@wintertrooper7918]

@sirbiakan1527 like titus' failure?

[@tman6605]

Leandros is somehow now less bald and more bald all at once

[@Cha-Khia]

Hairline: receding. Hair: thicker. Honestly the graphics updates of more than a decade makes a big difference as well.

[@ballsups]

astartes pattern baldness is a cruel mistress

[@ZGundam64]

Anyone wanna bet in Space Marine 3 that Leandro's hatred for Titus makes HIM fall to Chaos and Titus has to put him down?

[@wintertrooper7918]

That's some AU fantasy you got there Leandros doesn't hate Titus at all in SM2

[@ComradeStrogg]

Except Leandros doesn't hate Titus. You should read more about what chaplain's duty is.

[@mrman9977]

​@@ComradeStroggHe very clearly holds a grudge.

[@ComradeStrogg]

@@mrman9977 hmm, a space marine used chaos artifact to defeat his enemy...I wonder what could go wrong... Jokes aside, it is unsual when a space marine USES chaos and doesn't get corrupted somehow in the long run. Titus' resistance to Chaos is extremely puzzling and suspicious. Plus, he collapsed and lost consciousness when encountered Chaos near the magos. He is very sensitive to the Warp and Chaos and we still don't know if it's good or bad. Him killing Amurah doesn't prove anything - Chaos forces don't hesitate to fight each other to meet their objectives (Alpha Legion especially). Now that Leandros is a chaplain, it is his duty to doubt and question every marine under his guidance, even the most honored and decorated ones. Chaplains are fanatics and are always paranoid - that's what makes them valuable. They are the watchdogs that bark at everything that is slightly suspicious, so Leandros, being the nerd he is, is a PERFECT chaplain. Lord Calgar gave Titus a second chance, and Leandros serves as a safeguard in case the Lord made a mistake. Sorry for the long answer, lol. Can talk about WH for days.

[@mrman9977]

@@ComradeStrogg Yeah, yeah. It was definitly extraordinary and he should be watched. But with how much they glared at each other, can you really say that they don't hold a grudge against one another?

[@datemasamune2904]

Clearly sees Nemeroth take control of Inqusition. Immediately tattles to Inquistion. Brilliant logic right there, Leandros.

[@wintertrooper7918]

Nemeroth killed the inquiditir then puppeted his body

[@nickstonehenge]

As you see, the codex astartes depicts you as the soyjack marine and me as the chad primaris.

[@TurKlack]

Wouldn't be surprised if Leandros turns Traitor.

[@trig1988x]

he was always a traitor in my eyes

[@sercravenmohead3631]

I actually think he’s just being dogmatic , not a traitor at all. Y’all forget the Horus Heresy happened? Half the Astartes and Primarchs went traitor and fully corrupted by Chaos.

[@justwannabehappy6735]

He's too close minded to turn traitor.

[@TurKlack]

@@justwannabehappy6735 Well I already heard he dies anyways so it apparently doesn't matter what he becomes.

[@justwannabehappy6735]

@@TurKlack Everybody used to die in 40k. Now they just come back to life for some bs reason.

[@SirPoppss]

Leandros strikes me as someone who doesn't like admitting he was wrong. He's forced to help his battle-brother and admire him for his deeds but always trying to bait Titus so prove himself right about being a heretic. Not letting fully even after 100 years

[@wintertrooper7918]

That'd your fantasy the reality is that he respects Titus he'll he even recommended him for an important mission for clagar himself

[@pinuppanda6372]

​@wintertrooper7918 leandros recommended him, but lets be honest, titus doesnt need his recommendations for any missions, especially if lord calgar is the one assigning it to him, leandros lovers coming out of the wood work

[@clemo85]

@@wintertrooper7918 A mission he is on... It's clear he wants to watch him closely or test him. Considering the torture Titus went through testing him for corruption - by a corrupted inquisitor - I think it's safe to say Leandros is barking up the wrong tree.

[@wintertrooper7918]

@@clemo85 no the torture had nothing to do with testing him for being corrupted. Inquisitor Thrax had a very very weird hate boner for all Astartes he didnt care whether or not Titus was innocent or guilty he just wanted to torture him till he confessed so he could kill him (his weird hate boner didn't beome known till after his death)titus was one of the many astarte he had in stasis who had never broke under the torture

[@legodoc1853]

Idk why, but I'd really like a fanfic or story of TTS Magnus meeting Titus, learning what Leandros did, and then just gunning it for Macragge or wherever the little bastard is and then punching him in the face really really hard

[@sirpineapple2262]

Literally stopped a chaos god from invading and saved Calgar but is still under suspicion

[@ardaarsen]

"... and you have failed" (the goosebump moment)

[@omegaguy6]

I’m happy to see the past century hasn’t been kind to Leandros.

[@carlosnolan5496]

I accuse leandros of being jealous failure to act

[@Redacted341]

Nah I don't think so

[@TheOgAnarchist]

ok so we can all agree that the chaplain drip goes hard af

[@chiefkeef74]

Jokes on Leandros, the Inquisition actually wanted Titus in their fight with the Nids.

[@isaacgraff8288]

Leandros feels like he'd make a good Word-Bearer.

[@ragnartellevson1870]

Leandros being a chaplain really pisses me off

[@EternalMetaphor]

He has no right to be chaplain when he failed to see Titus as a loyal space marine

[@nullakjg767]

do you guys know the lore at all? what do you think a chaplain does?

[@ccf3195]

@@nullakjg767they’re like an advisor/priest

[@CptUSMC]

Even 40,000 years in the future, there are still Blue Falcons.

[@TheYgds]

Leandros seems like the type to fall to Nurgle. Always suspicious and sour. Soon that sourness shall be the elegant coagulant for his veiled jealousy, a wonderfully pungent curdle in his heart that will ferment his soul, ripe for Nurgle's consumption.

[@sercravenmohead3631]

Possibly or he’s just being cautiously dogmatic to the codex, people tend to forget the Horus Heresy. Space Marines as an organization have a pretty bad track record with half of them including the primarchs getting fully corrupted by Chaos and almost destroying the Imperium and continue to ruin it.

[@PrimarisAngelusMortis]

​@@sercravenmohead3631 But Space Marines are also the ones who have proven themselves time and time again to be the ultimate defenders of humanity who destroyed chaos and any other malevolent enemies of humanity alike. They are also the ones who prevented the chaos legions during the Horus Heresy from actually achieving their objectives of toppling the Emperor and taking over the Imperium. What Leandros did to Titus, is nothing short of malice, inflicting him with such baseless accusations of heresy. While Titus himself is a good soldier who has proven himself time and time again to not only be the ultimate defender of humanity as any other space marine should, but also as one of the tools of The Emperor to be used against the enemies of mankind.

[@southparkmadness]

I was really hoping that leandros would be the main villian for the chaos portion of the game: the irony that he accuses titus of heresy but ends up being the one being corrupt.

[@Autobotmatt428]

Saber did a great job with the character models and making them look more like updated versions of the first game. Now all they need is make the first game backwards compatible with the newer systems.

[@DarkerLoony]

a vile character, the main villain of the series in my opinion, besides the Chaosians, beetles and orcs.

[@supershot9729]

Why does Titus sound so much better in the old one?

[@MajorGore]

Mark Strong is a better voice actor, simple as.

[@ericknunez8069]

Different VA

[@jumpierjuan93]

Hell no

[@sturmmagnunstein1008]

He was also a different person then. More optimistic, less jaded. Clive standems performance, while not as good as Strongs, fits a more rugged, betrayed titus. Personally i liked strong more, but i cant imagine him as the current titus.

[@nullakjg767]

@@sturmmagnunstein1008 nah they wanted him to be a marketable action hero. in reality space marines tend to be much more robotic. the cutscene in SM2 where galadriel asks "i heard you served in the death watch" and he just says "yes" is considered being chatty lol.

[@Crusader597]

By the look of Titus. You can understand that Titus doesn't like him.

[@riceoawsozm96]

Can you blame him?

[@AgentVenom29]

I hope Leandros is the main villian in Space Marines 3.

[@renevil2105]

Or dies in the dlc story.

[@jacktbc3947]

He's a Chaplain so no chance

[@AgentVenom29]

@@jacktbc3947 But it would be ironic for him to fall to Chaos and become the very thing he accused Titus of.

[@justwannabehappy6735]

​@@AgentVenom29 not a chance. He's too close minded to turn traitor. The Imperium is built with pricks like him.

[@wintertrooper7918]

​@@AgentVenom29sure but it would also be ironic if Titus was actually a heretic

[@TheBigExclusive]

Shouldn't Leandros be suspicious of his entire chapter now? They were all exposed to the Warp during the final battle of the game.

[@jshowao]

This man is the true chaos lord

[@daroachdoggSR]

I love the voice acting for that inquistor at the end of space marine. So ominous

[@darulezlulez2625]

Titus: "But... you can't do this to me... I... I started this company! *YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED?* "

[@tdlainc.4737]

Not getting mark strong again was a god dam mistake, Titus sounds way too young in SM 2 with Clive Standen. he does a good job but dam Mark strong's voice would be better.

[@angryeliteultragree6329]

It’s kinda sad, but it does make sense. He was upgraded to a primarus.

[@supershot9729]

​@@angryeliteultragree6329 meh the old VA was just better regardless

[@angryeliteultragree6329]

@@supershot9729 No argument here. Mark Strong is a legend.

[@wheels4lyfe]

@@supershot9729 He most certainly was not lol his stuff sounded phoned in at best.

[@bertojr8987]

I heard he didn’t wanted to come back

[@SCP--106]

It’s funny this inquisitor ended up being corrupted by chaos in the end lol. In fact I’d say it’s safe to say even here he’s corrupted. Damned inquisition

[@remlezar2693]

I just know Rawbutt Girlyman would have some words for Leandros

[@voidax99]

"How we live with those rules is a true test of a space marine, and you, have failed" mans is spittin strait fax as he's being hauled off in unholy cuffs. Absolute fockin legend

[@vagabond4576]

I wouldnt be suprised if Leandros been corrupted and his inner warp self been festering and planning shit out for centuries. Aside from that theory. Giving a sniveling snitch power only serves to stroke his own ego even further.

[@strykertron232]

Being a Chaplain is hardly a promotion in terms of power.

[@InsanoRider777]

He has been given a position of respect and authority... and isolation. So great was his concern for the Codex Astartes that he has been shackled to it; he will never have his own command, he will never know glory, and he will never have brotherhood. His career as an Ultramarine is basically dead.

[@Horrorcrusher8312]

​@@InsanoRider777I suppose his only comfort is being, able to strike Titus down the moment he turns traitor.

[@Captain_Razor_88]

Only to watch impotently as that one hope slips away when Titus is given command over his own successor chapter. We know he will, it was the original intention of the devs.

[@sercravenmohead3631]

I actually think it’s the opposite, he’s dogmatic to the Codex. Did y’all forget the Horus Heresy happened? lol

[@Rawkit_Surgeon]

Gadriel, Chiron, you guys are my favorite brothers.

[@kanebrotherick5007]

Y'all give Leandros too much grief while Alpharius is in the same room

[@Wyatt0987654321]

Alpharius is everywhere and nowhere

[@sercravenmohead3631]

I actually think Leandros is just being dogmatic, but he’s right to think this way because hello?? Did the Horus heresy not happen?!

[@kanebrotherick5007]

@@sercravenmohead3631 Are you saying he is showing the behaviour of someone invasively psycho-indoctrinated as a kid, so therefore is deeply conflicted when things don't go the way he was taught?

[@sercravenmohead3631]

@@kanebrotherick5007 bingo

[@mysticracoon7284]

healing by killing, it's a kind of chaos behaviors, absolutely.

[@titanosaurdy9493]

Whats even worse going on here is that if ever we continue our story with titus, they'll have to add leandros as part of the squad

[@StarSteve681]

Honestly seems like Leandro’s hasn’t learned a damn thing considering the way he spoke

[@eurobeat_enjoyer]

"..or the Inquisition must conclude that you have corrupted every Ultramarine under your command" That means even Leandros 😂😂

[@Zero60133]

I like how the managed to make him look even saltier with that flipped "U" face.

[@toluron20]

what grinds my gears is other than Leandros being a little bitch is the Inquisitor being Flanked by BLACK TEMPLARS who on several Occasions Butt heads with the inquisition. It would have been better if they were several Sisters of Battle cuz at least that would have made more sense, OR if we are really going the mile of protection The Minotaurs!

[@Cha-Khia]

I will forgive the devs of the first game for not being absolute mega nerds of 40k lore for having made that mistake. Also, it'd probably be easy for an Inquisitor to get aid from a few Templars if the conversation goes as follows: Inquisitor: "Some Blueberry is accused of Heresy, you want in on this?" Templars: "Would I ever!"

[@omathitis8498]

Leandros should learn from a very wise man who once said, "If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand?" That would have saved Titus from torture and Leandros from the hatred of the WH40K community.

[@Yamazakura00]

Throughout the comment section for hate for Leandros and after watching the ending for space marine 2. From what i see, he follows the guideline to the core that he would accuse his own superior for corruption (i dont see why he wouldnt, Titus was somehow immue to the warp, it does raises suspicion) though he could have reported it to the CM instead of the inquisition still there was potential risk.. Then SM2 ends with his reveal as the chaplain, in which i don't see him personally hating on Titus, he only mentioned that if he is indeed corrupted then he will do his duty as a chaplain. Sure it was a dirty move to report an innocent man for penance and all, but if you live in a universe with your friend potentially being a cultist/genestealer/or even a slight influence to the warp, that rings so many bells.

[@alexandrbromles8658]

except he cares so much about the codex but still breaks it to report Titus to the inquisition instead of their superiors. His first deed against the codex is betrayal

[@sercravenmohead3631]

People seem to forget the Horus Heresy happened, he’s justified in his suspicions. He’s just being cautiously dogmatic to the codex, half of all Astartes are traitors fully corrupted by Chaos and they almost destroyed the Imperium and continue to ruin it.

[@justwannabehappy6735]

​@@alexandrbromles8658 his superiors weren't on the planet. Next best thing was the Inquisition.

[@nullakjg767]

people dont really understand the lore of 40k. they watch meme-y creators and think "TTS" is the 40k bible. the truth is leandros and titus are nearly as close as space marines can be lol.

[@jeremiahwright4450]

They missed the get back opportunity of a lifetime, 13 years in the making. "I've saved a second system from the wrath of Chaos, what is your count at brother chaplain?"

[@nullakjg767]

probably a lot more since hes been serving for 200 years lol. not to mention who knows how many disasters hes averted by rooting out or preventing corruption before it even began.

[@corey552]

I just want Guilliman to show up and call Leandros a loser

[@neofulcrum5013]

You’ve seen better days Leandros

[@ridetoruin]

Too bad Leandros survived becoming a primaris

[@LordHayabusa85]

Halo made a big mistake, taking power attacks away from the Spartans.

[@Arguments_only]

when he took the helmet of at the end... i was like, HEEEL NAAAW!

[@Hateful_Psycho]

He looks like Callum’s Corner “Ayup, Leandro’s corner here”

[@JimLBon]

Leandros as the chaplain was absolutely brilliant writing. I’m not steeped in the lore of 40k, but from an entertainment perspective I thought this game was brilliant. I was disappointed at the short campaign, but I hope the game is wildly successful because I want more of Titus’ story. The last battle of the game couldn’t possibly have been more epic and satisfying. Incredibly well done.

[@Tenchijin77]

Vent that tool out of an airlock with his copy of the codex. For the brotherhood!

[@twatmere9726]

I genuinely hope that the next one is where we see Guilliman and Calgar talking about Titus being placed as the next in line Captain rank for the 2nd company since Cato is now a Victrix Captain but Guilliman still wants to know from Titus if he really was corrupted. They meet and he sees that Titus' brotherhood towards other marines is genuine and full of respect. Leandros notices Guilliman is watching Titus and decides to talk to Guilliman about his past in Gaia. Guilliman looks at Leandros and calls Titus to him. Titus arrives and Guilliman asks him if what happened to Gaia was true. Titus admits to his primarch but still stands firm that he is not a heretic and Leandros argues with him for that. Guilliman shuts them both up and basically gives Titus trials in the form of seemingly REALLY important missions that could let chaos win.

[@wintertrooper7918]

Guilliman doesn't even know who tf Titus is

[@twatmere9726]

@@wintertrooper7918 Calgar could vouch for him to either be one of his Victrix guards and maybe his personal vanguards or someone who assists him in making his plans come true as a leader of his special operatives.

[@RageAgainstTheDyingOfTheLight7]

​@@wintertrooper7918let's be honest Robot Gorillaman probably has every Ultramarine memorized

[@RageAgainstTheDyingOfTheLight7]

Also I'm fairly certain Calgar still has control of Ultramarines and Ultramar with Guillimans blessing. He could assign a new company leader without Guilliman needing to be involved though being the micromanager he is hed probably get involved

[@wintertrooper7918]

@@RageAgainstTheDyingOfTheLight7 he probably did before he 'died' and after he was resurrected but again there's a full 10,000 years where he's absent

[@justinm-i5v]

Leandros has NO room to talk

[@crusan0145]

The art style change is quite drastic.

[@Davidofthelost]

Different studios and years between development.

[@nathanjaynes5290]

dayum only now seeing the black templars all have the same texture models, they all have the same scarring on the helmets, still pure game tho

[@GlennReuther]

Tldr; my headcanon at this point is that Leandros was made a chaplain probably in a strategic move to get the inquisition out of the ultramarines affairs. Calgar isn't stupid enough to think killing Leandros would have no repercussions since he's (as far as the player is aware) the only known quantity in the second company in so far as the inquisition is concerned, so removing him would only cement in the inquisition's mind that the Ultramarines are tainted. ( I am aware that the inquisition is not a monolith, their methods and fanaticism vary wildly inquisitor to inquisitor, I only refer to the specific inquisitor as the inquisition because there are undoubtedly hundreds if not thousands of inquisitors/inquisitorial agents that would absolutely agree with this inquisitor's suspicion of the second company's corruption as a whole.) I like to think of Chaplains as the spiritual auditors of the company they're assigned. In that capacity Leandros is a perfect fit, but the issue of him nearly getting his entire company purged by the inquisition literally decimate the ultramarines which he would understand given that he probably writes codex compliant fan fics in his sleep, seemed a bit dubious. However if Leandros being secretly (at least secretly to anyone that isn't Calgar) regretful of his decision on Graia is what the story actually turns into it makes sense why he's behaving the way he is, despite all available evidence showing Titus is nothing if not a Paragon of the chapter and a true champion of humanity. The question of who audits the auditor shows up at this point which in Leandros' case could be the inquisition and could have been for the past 200 years. He clearly caught at least this inquisitor's attention so this inquisitor may have begun to interfere with second company affairs. With all this in mind if Calgar had turned him into a servitor or had him executed its likely that would cast further suspicion on not only the second company, but the ultramarines as a whole. I think thematically to brotherhood, which is the generic theme of all the bolter porn in 40k this is probably the best outcome to take the character arc full circle. Perhaps in space marine 3 Leandros' confesses this to Titus and recuses himself of his position in the second company, understanding the conflict of interest would place his beloved chapter at risk. Even with Guilliman returned the inquisition has a habit of doing what it wants and worrying about the consequences later. It's also an interesting route to take in that the consequences of Leandros' actions 200 years ago would essentially haunt him and Titus to the end of their service, if not the whole of the second company. It would be really lame if it was a dying confession so if they go the redemption route for Leandros it would be all the more poignant if he continued to see the ripples of his poor decision making.

[@Lil_Smelly]

Speech Volume: 50% Music Volume: 1,500,000%

[@Trid3nt861]

Then when Calgar found out about this, he later on awarded the Laurels of Victory to Titus upon his victory at the end of the next game, making Titus higher in rank than Leandross (the Takeshi619 of the 40k Universe)

[@alfonszitterbacke318]

Leandros died 2 weeks later during a training accident, involving a piano dropped from the 500th level of a building. None of his squad mates showed up for his funeral.

[@CaptainSnackbar]

Leandros is a deep seeded chaos agent

[@segov2860]

So SM 3 Leandros turns out to be a Chaos Demon.

[@mackhammer9866]

Leandros is the spy heretic

[@Movieland33012]

Leandro’s is just jealous he will never be half the marine Titus is

[@lazylonewolf]

Leandros the 200 years/4 generational hater

[@eriklee1604]

Powerful cinematics !

[@reklamador27]

Imagine Leandros see castellan crowe fighting with a literal demon sword 😂

[@Mantelar]

Leandro’s got demoted to the equivalent of DEI officer. The guy who the boss always lets talk but no one listens to. No one likes a rules lawyer.

[@hamp275]

I wish that in Space Marine 3, Leandros and several of his brethren face a harsh fate because of his strict adherence to rules, leading to a realization of his errors.

[@marklutz3296]

Leandros, the Malfoy of 40K.

[@Across187thStreet]

Black Templars on the side of an inquisitor

[@MrCat-pn5vt]

Alternate title: "My brother has trust Issue."

[@TheWuntus]

Leandros will fall to chaos his hatred will be his end.

[@trollanater1]

century-long hater

[@DancaniaX]

Leandross punished by being made a Chaplin

[@elasticater8429]

Leandros would have made a fine World Bearer.

[@WilliamDiaz-p2h]

damned if you do damned if you dont

[@guts2186]

Leandros got jealous that Mira has the hots for Titus.

[@shagaru-9]

So that is how it was ...What a rat of an Brother.

[@Acesahn]

Leandros has no Fing right to be resentful or suspicious of Titus... he's coping this massive attitude and for what? I can't even understand his thought process or motivation. He has to just assume that his knee jerk betrayal was 100% accurate and that the Inquisition failed in finding what he knows in his heart of hearts is there. Why?

[@Cha-Khia]

A lot of people are hating on Leandros in Space Marine 2 (and he deserves a great deal of it.) But honestly, Leandros becoming a Chaplain kind of makes sense, sure we all want to punch his perfectly punchable face, but think about it, the guy IS still loyal, to a fault, and really hates heresy, Leandros was just inducted into the wrong chapter, he should have been a Black Templar. What I want in the next game for character development is for Leandros to admit he was wrong about Titus, that would be good.

[@TheTimelyTurtle]

Holy cow, the voice of that inquisitor is just so iritating.