Thanks for the useful video! I changed my seals yesterday. My bike mechanic friend gave me a tip to use PVC pipe for pressing the seals into place. I found a 1.5 inch PVC pipe was the perfect size.
@YuStudios10 ай бұрын
Just did this today! One thing I found that helped push the seal in evenly without poking it with a flathead is to use the old seal as a press. Once the new seal is in, the old seal will sit on the wider part of the fork so it just falls out. Good luck to yall doing this. It's not hard at all.
@Lee.Davis_onesandzeros9 ай бұрын
Do you have a link to the seal? Thank you
@anthonyrfl82787 ай бұрын
Hello, I have to do this operation on my wheel, because the seal is leaking and I would like to take the opportunity to replace the suspension springs, could you tell me the dimensions of the spring? Thanks for your help 😊✌️
@EmilioZFG Жыл бұрын
What would we do without you Albert, top tier content, thank you so much
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. I was actually thinking that the community doesn't really need this video much. But i guess I was mistaken.
@EmilioZFG Жыл бұрын
@@2cells1pack with this kind of guides the mroe the merrier, theres barely any good guides for this kind of stuff, a good one also would be bearing replacements ! Thank you for all you guys do
@MrTheJoem2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Had to do this yesterday. Just a suggestion, put a little SRAM butter on the inside of the dust seal as well. Stanchion slides through both seals easy as then.
@liamventer Жыл бұрын
This is just a seal replacement. The equivalent seals on an road motorcycle will last 20km or more and on an off road bike it is it bit more of a lettery dependent on conditions but, I would inspect them only if their is an oil leak at about 5,000 km. A proper 'fork maintenance would also include disassembly of the cartridge and checking the shim stack for any debir between the shims and checking for any deformed shims. Be aware that not all 5 weight hydraulic fluids are made equal. As 5 weight is outside the SAE oil rating range (SAE ratings are used for rating oils, not suspension 'oil' which is really hydraulic fluid). Consequyently there is a wide of range in viscosity from different manufactures of 5 weight hydraulic fluids. For these thinner hydraulic fluids the Centi-Stokes rating is normally preferred and is more consistent across brands. Suggest around 19CSt. Also be aware that some brands use more /less better/worse quality anti-foaming agents in their oil. I tend to use Ohlins 19CSt weight which is admittedly very expensivebut of very high quality - very stable viscosity across a wide temperature range. If you don't want to do this work yourself any mnotorcycle suspension guy has the tools skills and knowledge to do this and also help you fine tune the shim stacks to suit your preferences.
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
WOAH! that's a lot of info! Thanks for sharing - more research for me to dig into :)
@anthonyrfl82787 ай бұрын
Hello, thank you very much for this very informative comment. I have to do this operation on my wheel, because the seal is leaking and I would like to take the opportunity to replace the suspension springs, could you tell me the dimensions of the spring? Could you recommend a reference for the spinnaker seal? Thanks for your help 😊✌️
@Kekafuch Жыл бұрын
Learned a lot from this video!
@guimarotta Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about buying a Patton this week and I was talking to the seller TODAY about some cases of oil leaking. Has this happened frequently? Should I be worried? I'm a light user.... Thanks for the video!! You are a very important member of the community! Keep it up!!
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
Anything with suspension will require some ongoing periodic maintenance on the moving assemblies. Nothing to worry about
@mikewatt3147 Жыл бұрын
Seems simple enough, definitely manage in a small space. Or drop it off at the SC 😂
@oldretireddude Жыл бұрын
Thank You for this tutorial!
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@oldretireddude Жыл бұрын
@@2cells1pack How soon, mileage or usage wise, should this be done? I'm strictly an urban street cruiser, with 500+mi on my Patton.
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
Hard to say. Usually I would say every year or whenever it leaks.
@oldretireddude Жыл бұрын
@@2cells1pack I fall squarely into the, if it ain't broken don't fix it, so I'll go with leaking as my maintenance guideline 😂
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
I just would hate to have to tear my wheel apart to fix a suspension leaking issue in the middle of riding season
@Tattedeuc Жыл бұрын
Your tear down videos are my favorite
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jimmykiang4420 Жыл бұрын
Hey that was a useful tutorial, couple of questions: 1) Have you heard of cases where the shocks develop play overtime and ends up making a clunking noise? I was wondering what is the cause of it, would it be some type of internal wear? 2) Where do you dispose the used oil?
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
I haven't heard of cases where the shocks develop play over time, I think its easier for the play to develop on the screws/structure rather than the shock itself? Especially if you replace all the seals. I collect the used oil and when I have a batch I bring it to a recycle center.
@TheMezzy81Ай бұрын
Hey, have you ever figured out that play/clunking noise? I think I might have the same issue. Thank you!
@jimmykiang4420Ай бұрын
@@TheMezzy81replace the suspension
@soupnazi81Ай бұрын
Do you think a hairdryer would be hit enough to expand suspension? I don't have a heat gun
@grb1969 Жыл бұрын
So many questions: {anyone's opinion is welcome}} Is this periodic (yearly maintenance) of should riders just wait until failure/leaks before replacing seals? What are the actual physical differences between the Sherman and Patton shocks? Is the fluid chamber a different size diameter or length? Are there different versions of internal springs with what variety of force that can be replaced for different rider weights or style of riding? Are there aftermarket silicone gaskets that last longer or have other attributes? And, can these shocks be adapted (easily) to the I.M. V13, V14 or BG Extreme replace their initial stanchion designs, and what are the performance differences? When will Leaperkim implement a dual-suspension design? Or, do you believe the weight penalty is not justified? Lastly, will KingSong ever admit that the roller-sliders were/are a mistake and redesign their entire suspension wheel line-up? {Thanks for the repair videos!}
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
I would do it periodically - but also should be done as needed and observed. If you observe that oil is leaking from your suspension. The difference is length - and fluid amounts. There are different weight internal springs - 62, 66, 70lb etc. I would not say it's user replaceable. The seals are common seals that you can purchase from aliexpress. No they can't be adapted to other wheels. leaperkim's plans are only known to leaperkim. kingsong - who knows?
@grb1969 Жыл бұрын
@@2cells1pack Thanks for the details, Albert.
@user-Rionya10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the tutorial. What do you think, is it possible to change the oil in the shocks without disassemble of the wheel. Just unscrew big red screws, flip over the wheel, wait for oil leaks out and then add 130 ml of the fresh oil.
@2cells1pack10 ай бұрын
Hm, I think it’s easier to just remove it rather than try to work with it in the wheel
@user-Rionya10 ай бұрын
@@2cells1packthe shocks on my wheel are not leaking yet (2500 km), I want to replace just oil, without replacing seals. The disassembly is not very difficult, but still. I think I will try.
@2cells1pack7 ай бұрын
It's not bad at all. Seals are fairly low cost, so I would definitely suggest changing them out at the same time preventatively
@user-Rionya7 ай бұрын
@@2cells1pack You are right and I did full service with seals and oil replacemant. But I checked the possibility of just oil service. It is not convenient, but possible. You need to remove the top cover additionally.
@monarch81883 ай бұрын
What about Cartrige maintenance?
@jc84com Жыл бұрын
10:31 crack in the nuts. Awesome video. great to see the insides of these suspension.
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
haha luckily it missed it :p
@anthonyrfl82787 ай бұрын
Hello, thank you for your great video 👍 I have to do this operation on my wheel, because the seal is leaking and I would like to take the opportunity to replace the suspension springs, could you tell me the dimensions of the spring? Thanks for your help ☺️✌️
@2cells1pack7 ай бұрын
i would check with local retailer as they can procure the seals and springs from LeaperKim
@droneflying5455 Жыл бұрын
Handfull video 😊 Anyone knows where to get seals ??
@calcon11 Жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Where did you purchase the seals from? Is there a link?
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
Let me find the info.
@Lee.Davis_onesandzeros9 ай бұрын
@@2cells1packstill waiting
@Onelastrun Жыл бұрын
Great video! My question is, is it possible to just replace the entire shock opposed to maintenance? Sorry, im kinda lazy, and i would be ok to jist purchase 2 shocks instead of pmcs'n it. (Preventitive maintenance checks and servises). Thank you for all your hard work albert! Means a lot! These the videos i miss. Small dives into the minds of the architects!
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
Yes, you can replace them. However the hurdle is cost - as the suspension forks are not cheap by any stretch.
@Onelastrun Жыл бұрын
@2cells1pack so what would be the cost of the shocks, vs the oil, and bushings? And the time it would take to do it? Heat gun is a special tool as well. Most prolly won't posses one to maintain their wheel every 800 miles. But I'll look up the price if I can find it. 😆
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
A replacement shock is upwards of $250CAD. The tools for the job is probbaly less than $100, and materials for each job probably isn't significant. (order of $10?)
@Onelastrun Жыл бұрын
@@2cells1pack I see why it is attractive to work on thy wheel. Thanks!
@Phil4222 Жыл бұрын
Where are you getting them that cheap ?
@beatnik18558 ай бұрын
you said you can get replacement gaskets online, could you tell me where that would be? thx
@matthewlougheed88308 ай бұрын
Ewheels is where I got mine.
@2cells1pack7 ай бұрын
Check with local retailer
@-JohnSmith-6 ай бұрын
So is it 130 or 150 Mills oil for the Lynx?
@2cells1pack5 ай бұрын
150mls for Lynx. Same as Sherman-S
@GaryChamberlain-yg7do Жыл бұрын
Ride one review recommended 100ml on rebound side and only 80 ml on compression side . Also said that 130 ml on the Patton makes it very stiff. Just a thought
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
They recommended a certain amount of fluid per side? The fluid amounts were provided by the factory...
@GaryChamberlain-yg7do Жыл бұрын
That’s what they used to improve the performance of the suspension.
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
Weird, but never thought of trying this. By theory, i don't see how this would be.
@GaryChamberlain-yg7do Жыл бұрын
Same as tuning a suspension fork on the front of a motocross bike. Fluid amount is very important because more or less air in chambers. More fluid and less air stiffer because fluid cannot be compressed and air can.there for more air is more plush
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
The fluid has channels to move around and the ability to be restricted in order to act as a damper. Without the fluid, there is no damping. If you overfill the fluid - then this can cause problems, but there's definitely a balance that needs to be striked in order for the damping to work properly.
@chriswipatothai9186 ай бұрын
What is the part number of seals?
@2cells1pack6 ай бұрын
You can check with your local retailer if they have sets in stock.
@Albert-Dyck Жыл бұрын
After how many kilometers does such a suspension rebuild make any sense? Assuming a calm riding style on 85% paved roads.
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
It's really more done on an as needed basis. Dirt gets into seals and allows oil to leak. So the more dirt you experience -> the higher probability of leaks.
@milordas10 ай бұрын
link for new rubber seals? preferable aliexpress or eu stores
@2cells1pack10 ай бұрын
You can get them from retailer. Leapekrim has the seals kit needed
@gavinzooms Жыл бұрын
10:30 😳I’m scared to do this now
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
It was close, but luckily, it missed it haha
@laurv8370 Жыл бұрын
We wish to the thin cell in the pack to get well soon! (if not already)
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
Thank you :) I will be back in the next video - Skinny
@KevinRedmondWA Жыл бұрын
Looks like the best way to rebuild is to just buy a new one.
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
Haha, that would be easy also
@guyjemus2706 Жыл бұрын
I'm not getting this wheel because of that. Sorry, end of the discussion for me
@2cells1pack Жыл бұрын
each wheel has their pros and cons :p
@grb1969 Жыл бұрын
The V14 will probably be less maintenance because there are two independent shock systems on the wheel, which means less wear/tear on each.
@guyjemus2706 Жыл бұрын
@@grb1969 the V14 has no shocks like the Patton. It is a springcoil system like the s22.