Learn Ancient Greek: 2_Introduction accents

[@tamaradimarco878]

I'm an Italian student and I study Ancient Greek and Latin at high school, and it was so nice to review the Greek accents in English!

[@TheCenterforHellenicStudies]

Hi Tamara, we're so glad you are finding it useful!! Thanks for taking the time to send this note! Best, Claudia

[@mjw12345]

Thanks for posting! I like the relaxed, informal (but very information rich!) style and and easy pacing which is excellent for a beginner.

[@TheCenterforHellenicStudies]

Hi sbranagh, it's helpful to hear that the pacing feels right for beginners. That was our hope! Thanks for watching and don't forget to subscribe if you like these videos! Best, Claudia P.S. About that informal style. This is really what it's like sitting in Prof. Muellner's office and learning Greek. Now we all get to learn along with someone who has been reading for decades!

[@haridathcu9999]

Greek accent is a musical musical accent in contrast to English accent which is a stress accent 1. acute ά any of the last three syllables whether the syllable is long or short on long and short vowel or dipthong one mora for short syllable and two morae for long syllable 2. grave à goes down Only on the last syllable It can be on a long or short syllable When ends with an accute, but another word follows then the accute becomes grave Punctuation marks ( period a journey, comma a lock of hair) period. question mark ; semi colon and comma • 3. circumflex ^ both accute and grave rise and fall Only long syllable 2 morae One of the last two syllables

[@kimbowman3032]

I'm just half an hour into the series here, but already I know this is the place for me to learn Ancient Greek. As an extremely experienced student in higher ed, I can see that Prof. Muellner is the teacher I want. Prof. Muellner avails us of his deep knowledge in a conversational tone, bringing us along as if we were actually sitting in his class, getting to know him as he would have gotten to know us. Brilliant! Thank you so much, Prof. Muellner and Belisi Gillespie! (PS--Some previous reviewers may want to read all content thoroughly and note there is a textbook to buy for the course. I found it for less than $20--a real bargain for a first class educational experience.)

[@jessicaramer6630]

The lecture is the best presentation of Greek accents I have encountered yet.

[@williammoulton2813]

Lenny, This is great. I have glanced at these before. Today was the first time I sat down to watch seriosly. Good job! Bill from Hour 25

[@theemperor8613]

I learn Ancient Greek in collage and for me this playlist is the first source for me to review and learn the things I missed in collage or didn't understand it

[@dalostgurl8615]

Where are you from?

[@theemperor8613]

@@dalostgurl8615 First, let me apologize for the late reply I didn't see the notification, second, I'm from Egypt and I study Archaeology and Graeco-Roman studies

[@rileyl.clarrethe5763]

as a turkish universty student who study ancient greek lang and lit. this is so helpful thank you

[@goergops9593]

Thank you for democratizing this kind of knowledge!

[@sebastiannokes4209]

Wonderful, thank you. If only more language teaching was this clear and accurate.

[@theguildofsilence]

must say the detail of the law of contonation really made the introductory chapter in the book easier to grasp. I was really worried about just sitting here memorizing rules.

[@OliviaDaviesI]

Thank you very much - this is very helpful and clear

[@TheCenterforHellenicStudies]

Thanks, Oliva! We hope you stay tuned for new videos!!

[@lloydbotway5930]

Seems to me like a simple rule is: accents can only fall on one of the last three MORAE, not syllables. That explains why circumflex, with its long vowel, can only be on penult or antepenult.

[@MrElshareef]

Thank you so much. Very wonderful and useful work.

[@TheCenterforHellenicStudies]

Hi Elsharif, glad these are helpful! Best, C

[@dimethyltryptamin]

I have been looking for such a thing for years! I love it! It's absolutely remarkable!

[@Kinetic.44]

Thank you for sharing this

[@Isabel-May]

Did anyone understand this? 8:20 I have texts in ancient greek from a teacher but this is not applied.

[@uhuhuuuhhh9883]

Marcel Didwyczc. Ph.D Univ of Texas 2005 where are you ?? Still playing gitfiddle ? I was enjoying the tutorial and you got a job in Houston A good place for would be at Dinwiddie Hall at Tulane . Very bright students there Hope by now 20 years later that you are tenured.Hop you see this

[@joseantoniobenlopez3240]

Enhorabuena por el vídeo.

[@lauradubosque9269]

So, ancient greek sentences probably had more changes in pitch than some modern pop songs?

[@dengbeibei7838]

Please can you tell me the name of the textbook??

[@BiancaAguglia]

I was wondering the same thing. 😊I read through the comments and I think the name of the book is _Greek: An Intensive Course_ by Hardy Hansen & Gerald M. Quinn

[@GreggaJJohnn]

Loving this. Thank you.

[@sgpwriter]

Confused about the word 'comma.' You say it means lock of hair but Liddell and Scott say it means 'a cut-off piece' of anything. Could you clarify? Thanks.

[@JoshuaMNielsen]

On the rule of what turns an acute accent on a final syllable into a grave accent, what happens in the case of enjambment for the final word on a line? Because unless you look at the beginning of the next line there may be no punctuation and no word "following" the final word. In one of the Iliad reading videos I heard someone say that with enjambment there may be an audible pause in reading before preceding to the next line. Would the pause for enjambment act effectively as punctuation?

[@erdemersayin]

You can press Ctrl- to see it better in PC.

[@GlaneciaXCat]

You know what I'm wondering -- if we do not know what atttic greek actually sounded like, then why do we bother learning about accents? I'm sure there's an obvious answer. Does anyone know?

[@leahmurray3388]

Accents become super important, grammatically as you continue to learn.

[@colbyaguilar161]

So, what I'm getting out of this is that the accents are practically like the marks used in the Pinyin used for Mandarin to indicate tone; anyone else agree?

[@paulsmith1690]

no at all. Greek accents indicate grammatical roots , building procedures , declensions and conjugations.

[@j.m.waterfordasxiphanex3738]

Does the unmarked fall of pitch imply the all words following a grave accent begin with a rise in pitch?

[@stefanijaharris7566]

Examples? We need examples. Otherwise it is just an abstract discussed in English. Does very little for teaching ancient Greek.

[@raystargazer7468]

Some examples in greek would have been nice tho

[@AhrakNapash]

Is this Attic or Koine Greek?

[@TheCenterforHellenicStudies]

Attic Greek.

[@aeringossett6430]

I really wanted to watch this but your volume is too low. :(

[@watermelonineasterhay]

Have you tried headphones?

[@BuffloBuffloBufflo]

Terrific.

[@apo.7898]

There wouldn't have been a fixed rule but there would have been averages, one mora x miliseconds, 2 morae 2x., for example. But actually the idea that two 'morae' were exactly twice as long can be wrong.

[@demetra612]

The word coma does not mean a lock of hair in contemporary or ancient greek. The word κώμη is the correct word that means a full head of hair in ancient greek.

[@lesoleil1195]

Thanks

[@OriginalSocalgranny]

Some examples would have made this worthwhile. Without any, it is much less useful. This is commonsense and a Harvard Professor should know this basic rule of TEACHING.

[@turkmusik]

Seems very slow, very inefficient. I see all this praise but this is very far from a lesson that any professional teacher would recognize as well-organized, clear, efficient, and productive of meaningful responses by the student.

[@danielmichels]

easy peasy lemon squeezy

[@artawhirler]

Wait! You never even taught us the alphabet! Shouldn't that be the first thing??

[@TheCenterforHellenicStudies]

The book (Greek: An Intensive Course, by Hardy Hansen & Gerald M. Quinn) introduces the alphabet in the Introduction, sections 2-9. You can find two videos introducing the Greek alphabet and diphthongs here (they reference Homeric Greek-and Core Vocabulary from "The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours" by Gregory Nagy-but the alphabet demonstrated is the same as for Attic Greek): kosmossociety.chs.harvard.edu/?page_id=22051#Alphabet

[@terrywant6855]

@@TheCenterforHellenicStudies , First of all. Thank you for putting your course online. I just started watching this video set and I did purchase the book, "Greek: An Intensive Course," by Hardy Hansen & Gerald M. Quinn. In reference to you response above, how do I know when I am supposed to study the book or watch the course? Or both? What are the queues where I should be reading in the book?

[@argyrokoukoula2689]

so boring....