Learn how P-51 Mustang Helped Create the State of Israel, Part 1

[@showtime112]

As far as I could find, historically the first Israeli Mustangs had bare-metal finish. One of those skins was available for purchase in the WT Marketplace and I did purchase it. That's the one you can see in the intro. Sadly, I couldn't make it work in the User Mission and so the Mustangs in the combat scenes have camouflage pattern which was used later. Custom skins for this aircraft were 'temporarily not available' for some reason.

[@chriscarbaugh3936]

I have seen one of these Mustangs at the IAF museum. I also noticed an Avis S-199. These are all behind barricades and not currently on public display, unfortunately.

[@romanostrov3040]

As-199 are wait for reconstruction ,cheeking and for painting in new skin ,what is As-199 D-120 where stand

[@showtime112]

If I ever go to Israel, that's gonna be the first place I'll visit 😁

[@romanostrov3040]

@@showtime112 Its interesting place indeed,sad you miss the Independed day it more interesting (But damn a lot of people >W

[@tennesseeridgerunner5992]

Mr, Showtime112- These presentations of yours are some of the best if not THE best of their kind I have come across. Fantastic work sir.

[@showtime112]

That's what I call a positive comment 😊 Thank you very much, I'm glad you appreciate this content.

[@tungteo1190]

Thanks

[@showtime112]

Thank you very much for providing financial support!

[@sufianansari4923]

4:50 the robbing bastards...

[@showtime112]

Maybe they should have ordered through regular channels 😁

[@sufianansari4923]

@@showtime112 Because yes! We'd have all thought better of the Egyptian air force as well...I mean everybody else manages?

[@uha6477]

Not like nicking an entire country...

[@sufianansari4923]

@@uha6477 well that's a whole different story?

[@uha6477]

@@sufianansari4923 seeing as they bought some more they probably paid for this later.

[@FraustByte]

Showtime, I absolutely love your animated history lessons... Keep up the great work..🎉🎉

[@showtime112]

I'm very glad to hear it. More coming up!

[@oveidasinclair982]

Looking forward for #2

[@showtime112]

It's gonna be a good one 😁

[@offshorequest]

Interesting to see former "Allied Aircraft" in combat against each other.

[@showtime112]

True. But it became even more interesting when you had Spitfires fighting Spitfires.

[@SoloRenegade]

P-51 fighting F4U

[@SoloRenegade]

what about russian aircraft fighting russian aircraft in Ukraine?

[@flightlinemedia]

Outstanding video. Never count out the P-51 in a fight.

[@showtime112]

Except maybe in The Hundred Hour War 😁

[@flightlinemedia]

@@showtime112 About that... Did you know an American fighter ace was smuggled in to go shoot down Soto after he got those two kills? He was a soldier of fortune. Soto was out of there by then, but they knew he was there.

[@showtime112]

@@flightlinemedia You mean Bob Love?

[@flightlinemedia]

@@showtime112 Yes. Very interesting story.

[@sandrotomasetto6322]

Valeu!

[@showtime112]

Thank you very much for another donation! People like you keep this channel in business.

[@jeannezehner9450]

Interesting video about an unknow war, the war of installation with propeller planes. The Israeli few years later arrived to capture from the arabs a MIG-15 and studied it. Like they have done with the MIG-21 one or two year before the six days war in 1967.

[@dominiqueroudier9401]

Salut Jeanne on rentre juste de la frontière espagnole a La Junquera pour shopping et bouffe sans gluten ni lactose. Le bazar tellement ya du monde vu que tout est moins cher et le Gasoil et le SP95 avec 20 cent de moins. Bref je connais pas Trop cette époque et seulement quelques as comme Ezer Weizman ( futur patron de la Heyl ha'avir) . Le DC 3 s'est crashe sur le ventre. Pas de blessés. Seulement le pilote qui a pris des éclats de ferraille par les impacts de 12,7mm. Le Mustang s'appelle TINK et no 190. Le Mustang israélien a été aussi utiliser en 48 ou 57 Pour couper les lignes téléphoniques égyptien sur pylône dans le Sinaï vers El Arish avec ....le bout de l'aile. Comme quoi après déstabiliser des V1 ....on improvise sur des câbles téléphone 😂😂🤣🤣

[@jeannezehner9450]

@@dominiqueroudier9401 C'est incroyable. l'usage qu'on fait des avions en ces temps là, avec pas grand chose un maximum de résultats.

[@dominiqueroudier9401]

@@jeannezehner9450 le début de la Heyl ha'avir a commencé avec du matériel hétéroclite. Du spit, Mustang. ,Du Avia 199 surnommé la mule( moteur Jumo du Stuka ou du Heinkel 111. C'est mieux la version espagnole avec le moteur Merlin), du DC3, B17 avant d'acquérir des Gloster Météor

[@jeannezehner9450]

@@dominiqueroudier9401 Le AVIA 199 devait être un cercueil ambulant dû au manque de puissance du moteur. Tu veux parler du Buchon espagnol ? Personne ne les a aidés au tout démarrage de leur installation après le vote à l'ONU. Par la suite, ce fut les anglais et les français qui les aidèrent avant de se faire remplacer par les américains après 67 et surtout à partir de 73.

[@dominiqueroudier9401]

@@jeannezehner9450 le avia 199 avait un moteur conçu pour un Bombardier. Rotation et régime moteur différent. Couplé trop important de la hélice par rapport au poids. Le bouchon HA1109 espagnol avait un rolls royce merlin sous licence Hispano . Et la ça allait. D'ailleurs les survivants ont été rapatrier en Angleterre en 1969 pour le tournage du film : bataille de Angleterre. Pour le matos Israël. L.embargo de 67 sur mirage 5 à pousser Israël a commander des A4E Sky hawk. Entre temps on a transformé le mirage 3CJ Shahak en Nesher grâce à des plans "suisse. . Les PHANTOM F4E n'était livres que en 71

[@medokrusko]

Nebeski Cadillac najljepši avion ikad. Jedva čekam drugi dio. Hvala na trudu

[@showtime112]

Hvala Medo! Srebrna boja je rijetko kojem avionu tako dobro stajala :) Drugi dio izlazi u subotu.

[@jamesfranklin5541]

Right on brother

[@showtime112]

Thanks for the comment!

[@juancarlosperezcortes9259]

Great video as usual

[@showtime112]

Thanks a lot for the comment!

[@MImlac]

Wise, calm, informative. Thank you.

[@showtime112]

Thank you very much for this positive feedback! I hope you like part two as well when it comes out.

[@Dogface1984]

Thanks as always for the content 🤙🏽

[@showtime112]

Thank you for appreciating it!

[@Lane8492]

The Avia S-199 which was Czechoslovakian bastardized version of the Messerschmitt Bf-109 scored the first aerial victories for the Israeli Air Force when an Avia S-199 piloted by Modi Alon shot down 2 Egyptian C-47s that were attempting to attack Tel Aviv and flying the Avia S-199 Modi Alon achieved another victory when he shot down Egyptian Supermarine Spitfire

[@showtime112]

True. I need to cover that story someday.

[@ModlyModly]

Was it C-47 or civilian DC-3?

[@showtime112]

I'm not sure but I imagine those were C-47s. In the sources, they are usually just called 'Dakotas'.

[@Outerwebs]

Of course, I'm sure that Senior and Augarten actually believed that a transport plane on final approach to land was a legitimate 'possible threat' and well within their ROE. /s

[@showtime112]

The discipline in the first Israeli fighter squadron wasn't exactly too tough so pilots knew they could get away with a lot.

[@abdulmismail]

One of the foreign pilots who flew for the Israeli Air Force in 1948 was "Slick" Goodlin who, a couple of years earlier, wanted to be paid over a hundred thousand dollars to fly the Bell X1. So, instead of him, the Air Force approach Chuck Yaeger who went on to break the sound barrier.

[@showtime112]

That's interesting! I wonder if he ever regretted that....

[@jdsaldivar5606]

82ND AIRBORNE 1 Hour...you sure are cutting it close Mister...

[@showtime112]

Is that the record? 😁

[@jdsaldivar5606]

@@showtime112 82ND AIRBORNE Upon a thorough review of videos and comments pertaining to Showtime 112...and pertaining valuable comments by 82ND AIRBORNE to Showtime 112... this 1 hour is undoubtedly an unprecedented Record!! YEEEEEHAW!!

[@branka1980]

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[@showtime112]

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[@jacobnewman2189]

did you use older clips I definitely noticed those pre 2.7 clouds

[@showtime112]

This was done by War Thunder. It definitely lags behind DCS in the weather department. But the good side is that my average FPS is about three times higher :)

[@CyberBot17]

why was the transport plane kind of blurry is it because of that fox news tweet about gamers following laws in videogames and aviation nerds QRTing it with fighter jets bombing civilian towns or is it just a filter to mimick an old camera

[@showtime112]

It was supposed to imitate old footage but more importantly, to hide the fact that the C-47 is all white with no insignia whatsoever. I couldn't put the Egyptian skin on it, unfortunately.

[@CyberBot17]

@@showtime112 alr that explains a lot, thanks for sharing

[@Kmancanada]

There was a truce (ceasefire) in effect. They had no reason to attack that C-47 transport on final approach to land. Not a threat to them, over its own territory.

[@yoamal1187]

3 days late to Israel's independence day 😭

[@showtime112]

I actually thought about releasing this video mid-week and the Pakistani one today. I guess I should have done it that way :)

[@kingghidorah8106]

I'm out of the loop, wasn't Israel a state created by united Kingdom?

[@dominiqueroudier9401]

Hello mate. Just Come back from Spanish border for shopping ( 1 hour drive by motorway).yes i was aware of some aces in 1948. This is to Say the future général Ezer Weizman and Rudy augarten (5kills😊3 Spitfire, 1C47,1 Macchi 205 or Fiat G55. In a French Book Avions hors série. Shlomo aloni make a report about main aces of différent israélien Wars. About this kill, Aloni said it was a recco mission over Faluja and After above El Arish and Return along the coast over the Sea. Just before they have séen both a DC3 in landing pattern. Senior send some burst who hit fuselage. Augarten hit Right engine. C47 pilot put Gear UP and make a belly landing closely to runway just when augarten make a second run. Nobody was hurt except pilot injured by shrapnels . Registration dakota was 807. Mustang 'Augarten was number 190 and TINK was painted on Right side of engine cowl just behind exhaust pipes. Mustang was also used , dont know if in 48 or 57 to cut égyptien Téléphone lines with wing tip. After the V1 , now téléphone wires🤣🤣🤣

[@showtime112]

Thanks for another comment with extensive information. As for those wire cutters, that was in the '56 conflict. I don't think I can reenact it 😁 As for the 'Tink' skin, It made me frustrated that I had it but couldn't use it for the combat scene in the video.

[@dominiqueroudier9401]

@@showtime112 Hello showtime àgain. In my book i have a old black and White picture of Mustang "TINK" With bare metal Livery. The mustang is under camo nets. And Boris Senior is located in front of right wing. Right foot on right landing gear tire. Hè wears leather helmet With goggles. Do you have this picture in yours records. If you wants. Tell me how to send You ! 👍🙋

[@showtime112]

@@dominiqueroudier9401 Hi! I don't think I have that photo. You can send it to me by email on [e-mail]

[@dominiqueroudier9401]

@@showtime112 Ok mate in one hour. I am at my airport catch Ryanair 737max8 take off inbound to Düsseldorf weeze

[@dominiqueroudier9401]

@@showtime112 hello showtime. Check your comments of vidéo. Thérè is à Typo. P61 mustang is...Black widow😂😂

[@mohabatkhanmalak1161]

How can the Egyptians sieze the one Hawker Fury and send the pilot home..while they would need spare parts, manuals and tech support from the mother ship??

[@SoloRenegade]

well, the Arabs were never regarded as being smart overall look at what Lawrence of Arabia had to deal with

[@showtime112]

I guess they weren't thinking ahead that much :) But no doubt, it would have been much better to just place a regular order.

[@merrickmoriel8878]

That's crazy that the US had embargoes on Israel. Do you know why exactly they had a poor relationship at the start?

[@showtime112]

I'm not sure about any reasons why it was so but it seems that the State Department was where most of the anti-Israeli feelings could be found.

[@merrickmoriel8878]

@@showtime112 Interesting. I might go and look around and get some answers on that

[@bjornsmith9431]

The Zionist movement was promoting terrorist attacks on British Mandate police and soldiers that started Feb 1944- May 1948, assassination of Lord Morley the Middle East vicroy and the King David bombing opening revolt against the British mandate, Lehi and Igun terrorist was even planning to Assassinate U.S President Truman, many of the Zionist were openly communist too.

[@Thermopylae2007]

US policy was probably influenced by the fact that the area of modern day Israel had been a part of the British Mandate (Trans-Jordan) into which they allowed Jewish immigration following the Balfour Declaration of 1919. In the aftermath of some violence from the local Arabs, the Jews created their own militia which eventually became the Haganah and ultimately a resistance movement against the British. The British also put caps on Jewish immigration after WW2 in response to the concerns of local Arabs but could not stem the tide of the incoming migrants and soon found themselves under attack by terrorist factions that eventually convinced the British to abandon their Mandate. For US officials to support the State of Israel from the outset would have entailed giving legitimacy to an uprising against their British allies within just two or three years after WW2 had finished. It was an awkward situation to say the least.

[@merrickmoriel8878]

@@Thermopylae2007 Very interesting. That's what I had read on the U.S official site on that history. I thought I had commented on it here but apparently the response never posted? That would definitely make sense.

[@ratagris21]

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[@showtime112]

Thanks once again to one of the most loyal viewers!

[@ratagris21]

@@showtime112 Yw

[@Morwatwa]

I am proud that Czechoslovakia helped Israel with fighters and was also the first to help Ukraine with a complex anti-aircraft set S - 300 PM2 Although the S-199 was difficult to control and the S-300 at the end of its life.. Even a little at a decisive moment means a lot!

[@showtime112]

Thank you for your comment!

[@Uuuu-y8s]

Israelis using 109s... Ultracursed when you think about it

[@showtime112]

One of the weirder moments in history for sure. Supposedly, another deal was reached with Mexican government to purchase P-47s, but the deal with Czechoslovakia was a little faster and the money was spent on S-199s so the purchase of P-47s fell through.

[@feetpiece_704]

Pee Wee Herman's dad flew for the IDF around that time.

[@pacifistidentitarian549]

Eygpt : Nice hawker would be shame is someone seized it

[@fernandoferreira-do8vh]

aguante palestina

[@VikingTeddy]

Some unintentional humor there. "He faced some heavy flak" . . . . . ..... puff....

[@showtime112]

It turns out it's not very easy to actually show the flak at medium altitude in WT. There were quite a lot of them firing but not much precision :)

[@bjornsmith9431]

Premier Joseph Stalin U.S.S.R help the State of Israel with Czechoslovakia weapons the Mausier rifles gun site was off lead because Czech saboteurs against Nazi, but the Me 109 work well😅.

[@allangibson8494]

Actually shipping arms to Israel from Czechoslovakia was done without Russian approval. It was a purely commercial operation - cash and carry.

[@bjornsmith9431]

@@allangibson8494 Communist are Capital too, beside Joseph Stalin the Premier of the Soviet Union, voted for the partition of Palestine for the state of Israel in 1947.

[@allangibson8494]

@@bjornsmith9431 Joseph Stalin wanted somewhere to ship his Jews to… Stalin was only slightly less antisemitic than Hitler.

[@bjornsmith9431]

@@allangibson8494 I know the Communist in the Soviet where no different form the Fascist in Germany, Austria and Italy on persecuting Jews, even Fidel Castro run out 98% of Cuba Jewish population in the 1959 - 60s time period .

[@Hartwig870]

"how P-51 Mustang Helped Create the State of Israel" Welp, guess I hate the P51 now too.

[@showtime112]

Hate is bad, for you primarily. Don't hate.

[@s.marcus3669]

If you're going to make videos of air combat in the Middle East, you might want to actually READ about the Middle East. The center and north of Israel are lush and green, even in 1948....

[@showtime112]

And if you want to criticize, you might actually LISTEN to the video and hear that many of those battles were not taking place in central or north of Israel but much further to the south. Not so lush and green I believe

[@s.marcus3669]

@@showtime112 As a former tour guide in Israel, I listen very attentively and can picture in my head every single place you mentioned. The coast of Israel has greenery and cities, the north has dense Oak forests. Believe me, I've been to all the bases mentioned and many you've never heard of. I've seen Ezer Weizman's black Spitfire being warmed up at the IAF Museum and crawled in a Panzer IV in a Jerusalem convent.... Maybe you should review your script for accuracy before matching it up to desert wastes with no ocean in sight. Many air battles took place over Gaza, btw...

[@saniandry]

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[@cocodog85]

george beurling, canada's highest scoring ww2 ace, the falcon of malta with 31.5 kills was recruited by the fledgling israeli airforce. he never made it to israel, having been killed in a landing accident in rome on route to tel aviv on may 21, 1948. despite his fighting for canada with distinction in ww2 and achieving #1 national ace status, canada neglected to retrieve his body as they should have. years later his body was exhumed by israel and today he rests as a hero in a military grave in israel although he never fought for the jewish state...great video showtime.

[@showtime112]

Thanks for this feedback and for providing additional info! I think Beurling deserves a video of his own sometime in the future.

[@cocodog85]

@@showtime112... there's lots of material you can use as there is a discovery channel video of his exploits along with audio of his bond drive speeches. his scores is probably much higher as his gun cameras were unable to capture many of his kills due to long distant lead shooting. george was an expert at deflection attack.

[@branka4226]

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