Learn how to get spin in pickleball

[@melisamelisa8929]

Finally, spin makes sense thanks to crystal-clear explanations. Im gonna try it with my new Oliver-Sport paddle, hope to see more videos like this!

[@johncincolapickleball]

Glad it helped!

[@Thejoeb]

John you are quickly becoming a premier instructional channel, your approach and delivery in teaching are outstanding, thanks for the tips.

[@kkistbh824]

I’m a big KZbin guy and I have started to follow a number of Pickleball channel’s, and this guy although he only has 31,000 subscribers is giving by far some of the best tutorials that I have seen so far. Protect this man at all cost.

[@johncincolapickleball]

Thank you so much. I appreciate it!

[@debburt251]

The absolute best video on spin I have every seen. Now I finally understand what spin is all about. Will share with everyone. Thnx for making this very clear and no nonsense video.

[@johncincolapickleball]

Thanks so much. I love hearing that it made sense and helped out 👍

[@Jack96993]

I think I have it! Top spin ball into the top of the net, bottom spin, ball into the bottom of the net All kidding aside, very good vid to show proper spin techniques as I'm a beginner

[@ginnyk891]

You are an amazing instructor. You're ability to show, tell and then demonstrate the concepts in simple terms is BRILLIANT thank you

[@johncincolapickleball]

Thanks so much Ginny. I really appreciate that!

[@gracewallen6121]

The slow motion really helped me see the paddle angle and swing. Very helpful!

[@johncincolapickleball]

Yes, that's the main purpose.

[@ashtonso6662]

Best explanation I've seen so far on hitting spin shots for either pickleball or tennis. Also, great demo on how to do solo practice shots on a wall. Keep up the good work.

[@johncincolapickleball]

Thanks! Glad to hear it helped out 👍

[@chuckschmidt3522]

I'm fairly new to Pickleball, I've been playing less than 2 months. I've been watching many videos from different people and I really like your method of teaching John. Thank you! And yes, you can bet that I subscribed.

[@johncincolapickleball]

Welcome aboard! its a great game

[@angelomazzuca6244]

This is the easiest explanation for spin and I have watched many videos! I sent this to my drilling group and we are all practicing it. New subscriber to your channel; so thank you.

[@johncincolapickleball]

Thanks, I appreciate that! That’s my goal.

[@barbaraburica765]

Another awesome video! The slow mo was incredibly great to see! Thanks & please keep posting!

[@johncincolapickleball]

Thank you! Will do! sub to stay in the loop

[@SoNowWhat]

I’ve been looking for this exact tutorial! I am hoping that perhaps you can do a followup video on how to recognize and react to spins as the receiver? As a beginner, I have trouble knowing what to do in those situations. Thanks so much for this.

[@Raymundo619]

I was thinking the same thing. My guess is a) put your own spin on it to counter or b) recognize how the ball is spinning and how that affects the ball when you hit it, and compensate your power/angle

[@lhuffman8343]

First I have to say the very BEST video on explaining the spins. I have watched a lot of videos and by far this is the best!! Would love to see more videos and PLEASE do one on fire fight at the net. Thanks so much!

[@Kevin-sw3sv]

Your videos are the best I've seen on basics that aren't obvious yet are simply explained and demonstrated. The basics then become higher end instruction.

[@johncincolapickleball]

Thanks Kevin, I’m a big believer that the key to learning is progressions. Start simple and build on top of that!

[@julieo3860]

Thank you John! I am finally starting to understand what spin is all about!

[@johncincolapickleball]

You bet!

[@wanjiruwarama2016]

Thank you for you clear, measured explation that I can keep up with.

[@johncincolapickleball]

Glad it was helpful!

[@alfredeneuman6966]

I've never seen spin quite explained so well, Thanks.

[@johncincolapickleball]

Thanks, that’s my goal so I always love to hear that feedback 👍

[@jdp1956]

Excellent tips to improve my game. I'm only a 2.5-3.0 player so these tips come in handy. Thank you !

[@johncincolapickleball]

Glad to help!

[@oldschoolmusiclover1]

excellent trainings John!!

[@mgarded]

This!!!!! I have been waiting so long to find a good instructional spin video.....This is the best out there !!!!! Thank you sooo much!!!!!

[@moasaad]

Awesome John! I enjoy & appreciate so much your way of illustrating the how to to each spin /slice. Future suggestions: demo the use of each type of spin / slice, in serve, return of serve, dinking, etc. thanks again!

[@grahammustoe6260]

Hi John, I have been teaching spin for a while with the same approach that you describe which depends on the direction of paddle swing path and the direction of the paddle angle at the instant the ball is hit. I am with you 100%! Consistent dependable shots with spin can only be generated by controlling path and paddle directions at contact. However when I teach this method to help the students understanding, I emphasise that the direction of the paddle angle at instant of contact must be defined as ‘open’ or ‘closed’ with respect to (wrt) the direction of the paddle’s swing path. This is clearly seen in your wall demonstration when you play a topspin shot. At the instant of contact, the direction of the path of the paddle for the topspin shot is almost vertical and the paddle angle direction is ‘closed’ wrt to the direction of the path, but it is ‘open’ wrt the horizontal direction. My reason for mentioning this is that beginning students will swing from low to high with a path direction which is slightly above the horizontal and their topspin shots will consistently go into the net. One other comment I’d like to make, concerns the situation when a backspin shot is hit with a high arc. In this case the ball will not skid forward after it bounces but it will check up after the bounce. To counter this a player needs to read the spin and get closer to the bounce of the ball before playing their next shot.

[@johncincolapickleball]

Hey Graham, thanks for the reply. Definitely all good points and I agree. When I’m making these videos I have to find a balance of what is the critical info to deliver to keep it simple and digestible and what will start to muddy the waters and make the video drag out.

[@Yielar1]

Tried to understand what you're saying and the 2nd paragraph doesn't make sense. What's with the abbreviation WRT?

[@grahammustoe6260]

@@Yielar1 WRT is an abbreviation for …. With Respect To

[@felicia5620]

Thank you for the detailed video! I will practice what you've taught. I can't wait to watch all your other videos as well.

[@johncincolapickleball]

Glad you liked it. What videos have you watched? Love to know.

[@rickmercer6437]

Great Video! You are the best teacher on the interweb! Your 5 things I wish I knew video is the best summary of how to get better faster at PB.

[@kathrynbrooks5870]

FINALLY, the perfect explanation for application!! Thank you Thank you Thank you!! 🏓

[@johncincolapickleball]

You're welcome!

[@Positivecuriosity46]

Excellent instruction. I looking forward to trying this tomorrow!

[@johncincolapickleball]

Have fun!

[@a.j.6018]

Thanx John! You really make it easy, by breaking it down in simpler terms. Appreciate you taking the time with your lessons 😊

[@shooflybrush6690]

I really like how you explain what happens with the ball when your paddle angle is a certain way. For a beginner like me it so helpful. I will be doing this tomorrow in my warm up. I wrote it all down so I can review it. Thanks I will be watching your content for sure. So far I think you are extremely helpful.

[@one5749]

You are a master Pickleball teacher. THANK YOU!!

[@Chimboica2011]

Thank you John.

[@johncincolapickleball]

very welcome

[@johncol2550]

John, Loved the video lesson. The transition from normal speed to slo-mo and then back to normal speed really made your point more impactful. Great job! Much appreciated.

[@zowzow2006]

John your videos are the best. Clear, concise and very well explained. Keep up the great work.

[@Bee-of5xz]

Hi John! What type of grip do you generally use for these spins? Do you change the grip with different faces of the paddle?

[@VWKYT]

I appreciate the simple and clear explanation - thank you John. I would like to add one more thing to the racket angle and swing path that meaningfully affects both topspin and underspin ... I transitioned to pickleball from competitive table tennis where the third aspect, Racket Speed also significantly affects the amount of spin. It might not as much in pickleball, but still racket speed at contact will affect that amount of spin, at least moderately.

[@lesterma1608]

I’ve been playing almost 2 years, I’m so glad I learned to spin early!

[@longtimelo]

Excellent. Slo mo really helps.

[@dianemathis9647]

John, thank you for your expert and easy to understand instructions on all the topics you touch on. With regard to topspin and underspin, is it at all necessary to change the grip from the continental grip to another in order to execute either spin? Thank you.

[@GotHoai]

Great explanation, i'm newer to paddle sports and just could not figure out how to spin, can't wait to practice this

[@tonyanoss8477]

Really understood your instructions, thanks

[@Dollakas]

Got my seat & taking my notes Stay Awesome

[@johncincolapickleball]

Thanks 😊

[@davidcasey9005]

Thank you for making and sharing these videos- they are very helpful. I especially like this one on spin and was wondering if you could have a part two to it with showing these spin shots in play? I like watching your body mechanics of shots in true game scenarios.

[@McLovin1759]

Hi John - is it just me or at 6:00 of the video when you are demonstrating top spin which is to be a square face and upward swing path… it looks like you have an open face?

[@greggwhitfieldpickleballsh8164]

Outstanding video John!! Players would greatly enhance their game if they would make a decision on which spin and the correlating technique to use on each shot. An analogy would be a baseball batter and deciding which pitch to swing at and which pitch to take. Don't swing at pitches outside the strike zone. In pickleball, play defensive with a small motion with minimal underspin on the balls that are well placed and outside your strike zone or wha is described an not attackable.

[@russellelefterion4260]

Great job John!!!! Love to have ya at our Suncoast Boot Camp one day!

[@mlinton3007]

Super learning video. Slow, on screen text reinforcement, calm smooth voice.

[@johncincolapickleball]

Thanks, I appreciate it 😊

[@tbforester]

Thank you for your content. You have an exceptional ability to explain things, really break them down.

[@richardherrington6060]

Useful clear teaching and demonstration; for me, the slo-mo very clear Thank you!!

[@Bee-of5xz]

This must be one of your earlier video. You look nice without the baseball cap. You have hair!!! Thanks for the tutorial John! If I had open paddle, would the ball not be too long or too high?

[@tlemay2492]

You’re the best! So detailed and specific and easy to understand. Thank you so much! 🙏😍❤️❤️❤️

[@shaunmcduffee4792]

Hey John! Great content and really good explanation in simple/easy to understand terms. This is something that seems basic but for a beginner its huge. Appreciate it!

[@porterpockets9115]

Thank you. Very well articulated and paced. In addition to using the wall, are there other drills to build this skill that can be done by oneself?

[@colinsmith1233]

Excellent short and to the point. Great visual Thank you

[@algau5025]

Hi , is there a better paddle for all of those spins to have more control on the ball

[@Markomyt1]

Good information. You need some of the two color balls to be able to clearly visualize the spin.

[@fkporsche1]

Great instruction. Would like to take practice lessons from you!

[@gordonmoog6981]

great explanation and demonstration, very well done. you're becoming my favorite channel for pickleball .

[@sergp9405]

Thanks!

[@johncincolapickleball]

You bet!

[@markheneghan3804]

Great take on spin. You are a pioneer

[@michaelfletcher8278]

Hi John - Why a square face as opposed to a closed face for topspin?

[@kayvickers3023]

Great video, thanks!

[@traviswise1012]

Great Vid! I've been using topspin and sidespin a lot for the last few weeks, and I've been looking to add some underspin to my game so this vid came out at the perfect time

[@johncincolapickleball]

Awesome, glad to hear it helped out Travis!

[@c0l0rad0100]

Thank you! Very useful. Now can you do a video on how to deal with topspin and underspin when you are returning the ball. I've heard differing information that if someone hits a slice to you you have to reverse the spin to a topspin. is that correct?

[@johncincolapickleball]

Hey Gail, that’s a great idea. I can work on that. In general that’s true buts there’s a lot more factors to it than that.

[@mikepetrandis8525]

Little confused, on backhand under-spin . Is paddle coming from shoulder down to flat? That’s little high to low or just start flat swing with open paddle face?

[@johncincolapickleball]

It can have a little downward motion. Think of a small u shape. I hesitate to say that though because excessive chopping down is usually the biggest fault I see. You can easily create under spin with a flat swing or even a slightly low to high swing though.

[@mefieger]

Hey John, another great video. Thanks. Do you have any thoughts on using spin on a lob shot, especially a defensive lob from the back of the court?

[@johncincolapickleball]

This would fall into the situation of the defensive lob will most likely end up with some backspin on it, but there’s no need to purposely add it. You should be focused on getting the height and distance of the lob correct. The spin will have very little impact on the shot.

[@vincentgorman8271]

John, Great stuff! One question-when changing paddle angle do you change grip or rotate forearm? Hoping you will do a session on roll volleys. Keep up the fantastic work!

[@johncincolapickleball]

Hey Vincent. It’s just rotating the forearm to adjust paddle angles. No grip change. Yeah, I’ve got a roll volley video planned for one of my next couple. Thanks!

[@vincentgorman8271]

@John Cincola Pickleball John, Viewed your video again and picked up forearm move. Delighted to hear roll volleys are on your to do list. Thanks much for responding!

[@1939minutes]

Thanks for sharing this info very helpful. Look forward to all of your tips CALIFORNIA BILL

[@davidjkittner]

Thank you John. I appreciate your clear and concise instructions and demo. Best I've seen yet on this topic. 👍🏻🙏🏻

[@johncincolapickleball]

Glad it was helpful! I appreciate you watching.

[@Bergarita]

Good stuff. Thank you!

[@johncincolapickleball]

You bet!

[@Connor_Dempsey]

Great video :)

[@johncincolapickleball]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@JamesWilliams-dj2bp]

Excellent tutorial.

[@johncincolapickleball]

Many thanks!

[@bufenuf642]

I just subbed and salute you too. Great lesson. Now I will dominate my opponents. The cool thing is the attack will be stealth. Thanks for the tips. Hehe.

[@johncincolapickleball]

Thanks for the sub! Glad you like the video 👍

[@215618680]

thx for the great advice!

[@sunnypark-tz4qf]

Very clear and helpful

[@johncincolapickleball]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Casey_999]

Great video

[@carolynmcgown4218]

Thanks for this great video about spin! I'd love to see a roll volley video because I find you explains things so clearly and that shot can be so elusive:-). Side note; I find the music in the background very distracting. Perhaps just use it for transitions and not while you're talking? Love your channel John!

[@johncincolapickleball]

Thanks, a roll volley video is definitely gonna be one of the next few I do. Also noted about the music. I appreciate the feedback 👍

[@TheBrookes8]

Love the video John, thanks for this break down. Is this the primary way you would teach attacking off the bounce? That is the last layer I’ve struggled to really add to my game, and wanted to hear thoughts there

[@kosanmr2]

Excellent video, thank you very much!

[@roguegaston]

Great video! Thank you so much!

[@mushroomasmr6125]

Honking, what shoes are you wearing in this video? And great tips!

[@m.ehtizan]

Hey John, I just watched your video and I must say that it was really informative and well-made. I loved your videos. I was wondering if I could help you edit your videos and also make highly engaging shorts for you.

[@johncincolapickleball]

Hey Muhammad, I’m actually looking for someone to do that at the moment. Can you email me at [e-mail]

[@m.ehtizan]

@@johncincolapickleball cool. Sending an email right away.

[@m.ehtizan]

@@johncincolapickleball Hey John, I emailed you, but I didn't get any response from you. If you have time, please check your email. I'm still waiting for your response. Thanks!

[@jimwaldemarsen472]

Great videos love your teaching methods. Less is more, all about face angle and path. I notice you didn't have top spin 3rd shot drops in your category.

[@johncincolapickleball]

Thanks Jim! Yeah topspin 3rd shot drops are a great option. I just wanted to highlight the top few each. There’s definitely lots of other options I left off the list.

[@130rne]

If you pay attention to the slow motion shot of top spin, the ball bounces off the wall at the same angle that it hits. It really should bounce at a lower angle because of gravity. This is the same thing that happens when a ball with topspin bounces off the paddle of your opponent. It rolls up their paddle and is often the reason why people hit long balls. Changes the angle of the ball when coming off the paddle face. If you return a power shot and it goes out of bounds, this might be why. To counter, I respond with strong topspin. It pulls the ball down and keeps it within the baseline. Either that, or you have to REALLY pull power out of the shot because anything with heavy topspin is going to bounce off a surface with a sharper angle, meaning a weaker return of a topspin shot can still easily fly out of bounds. Opposite is true for bottom spin, if you hit it level the ball will roll down the paddle and into the net. I always watch for the spin of the ball when choosing a return hit.

[@johncincolapickleball]

Yeah, This is a great observation. 👍

[@Jonathan-David-Fuller]

Great video!

[@shanel624]

Thoughts on side spin?

[@paddlepower888]

Try it, especially on serve and return of serve when the opponent HAS to let the ball bounce. Pay attention to the orientation of the racket face as that determines the direction the ball goes. Opening the racket face a little makes the change of direction after the bounce more extreme. The faster the paddle brushes across the ball, the more spin you get.

[@shuleiqigong]

Excellent!

[@mlinton3007]

Great content

[@johncincolapickleball]

Thanks for watching!

[@denel_0]

Bro just saved my PE grade

[@johncincolapickleball]

that is great your school is teaching pickleball!

[@TimTheMusicMan]

John is very good.

[@TT-pv6lz]

Excellent

[@jorowi]

Interested in this location. Did you rent a warehouse?

[@kayw.4689]

i HOPE I CAN LEARN THESE AND KNOW HOW TO RESPOND WHEN I GET THEM!!

[@MyOneEdit]

I like how you broke it down. Spin for the win.

[@johncincolapickleball]

Thanks!

[@sunsioux444]

Fantastic explanation! this is going to be my best kept secret and I don’t want to share this with any of my Pickleball partners hee hee !

[@rfrojo734]

great instructions and explanations -- I wish the video showed your complete motion though -- it's cut off too much to really see the whole shot on either spin

[@dattygaboi8675]

What kind of shoes are you wearing?

[@TimTheMusicMan]

What paddle is the longest ? I am a pro tennis coach. I tried pickle ball for the first time. The first reaction is the lack of power. My tennis backhand was over 100 mph. I cannot get velocity on the pickle ball.

[@aquilinobenitez5055]

Great video but using a dual color ball would really show the spin functionality.

[@johncincolapickleball]

Great suggestion!

[@vkosek]

Swing path & face angle...the two main reasons I can't hit a fairway! The more things change...

[@johncincolapickleball]

Hahah, I hear ya. The margins are a little tighter in golf though.

[@green7449]

I seem to naturally hit the ball with top spin. Which has become a problem because all my hits have become too consistent and easy to predict.

[@grlygirl1264]

OMG so it's not my imagination! I watched a guy put crazy spin on his ball, but I couldn't see him doing it....everyone else was doing the over exaggerated chopping motions, but I wanted to know how that guy got his ball to spin without telegraphing that he was doing it. Now I know! I've got some work to do!

[@GiaoluuPickleball]

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[@wolf-xf6hf]

Not to be that dude but that graph of the top spin shot isn’t exactly correct. The ball goes flatter because it’s going faster and then decelerated but it’s not to that degree. It’s better to think about top spin as an increase in gravity and backspin as a decrease or if you are so aerodynamically as top spin creating downforce and backspin creating lift.

[@afterthesmash]

If you hit the ball hard enough, with enough top spin, it does pretty much take that trajectory, but it takes a _massive_ amount of top. This is even more the case when you play into a headwind. I've received balls absolutely hammered low and flat from the baseline with huge top spin, into a stiff headwind, with the ball barely clearing the net, then diving down into the kitchen so fast my hand could barely pace the downward break. It was a drive and a drop perfectly combined into a supremely nasty shot. Fortunately the wind doesn't blow that hard all that often.

[@johncincolapickleball]

I pulled those graphs off the old internet 🤷‍♂️. Maybe not perfect but they’re close enough to get the point across. Also as Allan said the ball flight is going to be determined by speed. I’m sure there is a topspin ball flight that would look like that at a certain speed.

[@tvbuijhg]

You need to understand the magnus effect first because your first drawing of the flight path is incorrectly described. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIC2o6mwg7xsfKc In you flight path, the ball bounces high because you hit the ball high over the net and the force of gravity caused it to bounce a percentage under its peak height, just as if the ball was statically dropped from the air. The magnus effect is still exerting a force on the ball after the bounce and so keeps the ball lower then a ball hit without top spin. When a ball with top spin hits the floor, it will actually accelerate. forward.