How To Process Scan Data with Revoscan | What Smooth and Simplify Do |

[@JoseAguiloworkshops]

Very nice video. I am more confident after seeing this video. Now I understand why others' videos show more noise and why revopoint scans look so great. I will erase all the questions before cause I'm very clear now. Good job.

[@LearnEverythingAboutDesign]

Glad it helped! Yeah it is deceptive to just look at the clean mesh so usually i leave everything pretty raw. But knowing that scan distance, angle, prep etc all have a big impact on what that raw data looks like. You can do a lot with the smoothing tools as long as you are sure you aren't drastically changing the raw data.

[@JoseAguiloworkshops]

@LearnEverythingAboutDesign yes, you always help! Personally, I don't like smoothing things because, as you said, it can change dimension. But how you presented here makes total sense. Thanks again.

[@barkingsheltie]

Nice video with lots of helpful tips. Hopefully Revopoint reads comments - we need more tutorials from real users who are working on challenging projects. Thanks! Edit - I see Revpoint left a comment, and therefore they do read comments!

[@LearnEverythingAboutDesign]

Glad it was helpful! Yeah they actually posted this video on their kickstarter page and they do pay close attention to comments even if they don't chime in FYI. Nothing I have said publicly in videos I haven't also relayed to them directly :) but more points of feedback the better!!

[@andrewclingan4052]

Using Miraco and very happy with it. Finding single shot mode to be very effective. Using turntable with single shot, I get vertualy not tracking loss. What would be great is like a burst or auto shutter feature, so you don't have to keep pressing the button. Time and table speed adjustable. Fantastic video and discovered not to use one click editing and smoothing the hard way. Many thanks.

[@LearnEverythingAboutDesign]

Thanks for the comment! Yeah on the metro x with the turntable linked to revoscan it handles the one shot and turntable movement. I wonder if that will show up in a Miraco update if you have that turntable. I agree that would be nice since the Turntable with the miraco is on/off.

[@digital0785]

revo's simplify works shockingly well its part of why i wish there were higher poly counts from the start but thats coming from what i understand :)

[@LearnEverythingAboutDesign]

If you don't reduce the points it makes that mesh poly count pretty high. Also the mesh "quality" element size keeps it pretty high.

[@digital0785]

@@LearnEverythingAboutDesign it's more an issue on large scans something with the algorithm doesn't play nice so it's an extremely low poly even with the "best" mesh settings.. best quality is like 2mm grid spacing and worst is like 60mm grid spacing haha even though it's fused at .3mm haha. it brings it from ~50m points and best case 1.8m poly at the end haha. smaller items generally dont have that issue. but considering I use my scanners for engine bays/ cars it's a rather unfortunate issue that there doesn't seem to be a work around .

[@Revopoint3D]

Great tutorial👏

[@LearnEverythingAboutDesign]

Thank you!

[@gold-junge91]

Can you do 3d printing series, how to design for FDM,SLS andSLA etc? With some design pattern like springs print in place etc.

[@LearnEverythingAboutDesign]

I have a bunch of videos on that topic already including printing springs/storing energy and print in place.

[@christopher8116]

I'd love to see a video on PMK.

[@LearnEverythingAboutDesign]

Yeah it will come soon. The next public release of revoscan should have an update that improves PMK and that is what I am waiting on. I don't know what that improvement is I was just told that there would be one....

[@billyfrank6318]

Nice video once again... Although I couldn't resist counting the teeth you run before you zoomed in... and then I saw the 16 and knew I counted right haha!

[@LearnEverythingAboutDesign]

LOL. That sprocket was for my GPZ750. it was a 530 (stock was a 630 massive chain!). Actually that sprocket was from a tl1000 BUT i used it on my GPz to run a 5.5in wide rim as opposed to the skinny stock 3.5in one. Im usually like a 14/52 guy on my 250 :)

[@billyfrank6318]

@@LearnEverythingAboutDesign That makes more sense, at first I was trying to recall if I have ever heard of running a 16 on a motorcross bike ( yes I'm aware of the spelling lol )...

[@LearnEverythingAboutDesign]

@@billyfrank6318 I did have a 16t for my drz400 to try and get the top speed up. but the sprocket ate into the swingarm guard..... so i ran either 14t or 15t most of the time on that bike.

[@billyfrank6318]

@@LearnEverythingAboutDesign Top Speed... " but the sprocket ate into the swingarm guard"...exactly!...you super moto guys I swear 😂

[@5t341tH]

Can you show us how you check dimensional accuracy after a scan? Can you do it within revoscan or how you do it in fusion360

[@LearnEverythingAboutDesign]

Yeah, generally what I do is take the mesh into Fusion, make a mesh section sketch and fit a curve to that. So if its a cylinder for example, you would fit a circle to it and that circle dialog would give you the error. So you can measure the circle and know with the error value how high/low it is relative to the scan data. I have done a few videos like this in the reverse engineering series on the bar clamp, but i could do a video just on this topic.

[@5t341tH]

@@LearnEverythingAboutDesign thanks I’ll look for that video but if you can make another specific one, That would be great!

[@dend9566]

Great video, Is this also possible todo with the software of a einstar 3D scanner?

[@LearnEverythingAboutDesign]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKWcooeMeLKqeZY That was exscan but i think they have changed it a little for the Einstar.

[@dheinis120]

Great video, eventually a A-B comparison side by side could be a good feature - thank you very much (hey hey you're running5.5.1, until now there is only 5.5.0 available ;-)

[@LearnEverythingAboutDesign]

Revopoint has a video on all that has changed on revoscan 5. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGaQqX2Pi7OXbs0 I am told the 5.5.1 will be out very soon and there are some nice updates there.

[@dheinis120]

@@LearnEverythingAboutDesign I have had to come back and watch it again - this is the best learning video on these topics - congrats

[@alexeyrybakov949]

Does this software have a feature to align model to coordinate planes?

[@LearnEverythingAboutDesign]

Sadly no it does not.

[@Roobotics]

I have a hacky solution to this if you use any common 3d printing slicers and use compatible formats, no promises it's a good one. But if you don't mind STL files, drag it into orca slicer, bambu studio, or prusa slicer, then use the face alignment tool then re-export it, now it will at least be aligned to something somewhat flat for later.. Their software really needs this natively though.. and face alignment is rather limited in how it works.

[@alexeyrybakov949]

@@Roobotics it's also possible in Fusion with planes built by 3 points from mesh, but relatively simple statistic evaluation of mesh in scanner software looks more logical for me. Hope Revo will realise it too.

[@LearnEverythingAboutDesign]

@@Roobotics Great tip! ill have to try that one out!!!

[@Roobotics]

@@alexeyrybakov949 yes, I wish they had a tool to analyze a plane or 3points for flatness alignment reasons, models always have the weirdest tilts otherwise. That and subsurface noise artifacts.. I can deal with ones on the surface, but whenever you smooth, they are usually the reason a models surface quality looks ruined, more prevalent in longer scans.

[@GeryS.]

Revoscan gets better, but still needs to be improved. Introducing algorithms detecting flat faces and handels them as such, same as fillets, circular holes and so on would be great! Best would be if the software would turn those detected geometry into a f3d file with features, is the future. Is the software able to reset the viewcube/coordinate-system? Reset Top view etc.?

[@LearnEverythingAboutDesign]

I don't think you will ever see revoscan generate a model for you. And honestly even the software packages that are over $10k don't do a great job with this. There is a tool out there that I haven't tried for mesh to solid conversion. For prismatic parts Fusion can do this (a bit) with the mesh conversion after you generate mesh face groups. Detecting flat faces would be great! I think my first ask would be to align to a coordinate system though. To the best of my knowledge no the view cube isn't configurable. You can click on it to reset (fit to screen) or swap to another view, but you can dictate which way is TOP for example.

[@GeryS.]

@@LearnEverythingAboutDesign Yes i know about "mesh face groups" and generating feature out of it (thanks to you ;-) I'm just saying that this would be the future, maybe! If it would be easy, it would already exist. I like a lot to model things, it would take half the fun out of it for me. But for some people this would be groundbreaking.

[@LearnEverythingAboutDesign]

@@GeryS. www.mesh2surface.com/ This is the one i mentioned. i haven't used it yet but seems like it has some promise

[@GeryS.]

@@LearnEverythingAboutDesign Wow this is amazing!