Learning and memorizing a new role.

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Lisette Oropesa

Lisette Oropesa

Күн бұрын

Hey everyone! You guys ask me often for advice on learning a new role. In this video I share methods that I’ve learned over time, for studying music on my own whilst on the road, preparing it efficiently, and having it memorized for the first day of rehearsal. Last year alone I sang 5 new roles. This season I’m doing 4, one being Massenet’s MANON, a taxing role with significant musical and textual challenges. I was able to put all my methods into practice for this one, so it will be my example.
This video is focused on musical preparation and memorizing. Of course there is a lot more that goes into role prep, like historical research, dramatic/character work, reading the book/play the opera is based on, etc. That’s a subject for another video. So I hope you can gain some tools for your own musical prep and share ideas in the comments below!
ARC OF THE CHARACTER: 2:05
Assessing the character’s overall presence in the opera, and their significance; locate potential challenges.
READ THE TEXT: 2:37
Next I read the entire piece all the way through, as if it were a play, and get the full story in my head.
LANGUAGES: 3:10
Being proficient in operatic languages cuts my practice time in half. Take the time and make languages a priority.
MY BOOKMARKS: 4:49
I organize my score with tabs to find my character’s entrances easily.
RECORDINGS: 5:19
Helpful to hear orchestration, ensembles, operatic traditions, and if there is a singer I admire, to know what they did as an example. But there are often mistakes, cuts, inconsistencies, and I want to keep my choices my own and not imitate another singer.
HARD PARTS FIRST: 8:09
I always tackle recits, ensembles, and finales first, and save the arias for last. Recits take the most drilling, and ensembles must be rehearsed carefully since you’ll be learning them alone.
COUNT: 9:16
This is one of the main reasons I don’t rely on recordings. The score may have a time signature that sounds nothing like what the music seems like it should be.
ARIAS: 10:33
Though they may be the hardest to sing, I find the arias the easiest to learn. Unless there are several, such as in a Handel part, with da capos. In that case, I tackle the arias first.
RECORD YOURSELF: 11:13
If there is a bit of music that I find extra tricky, I record myself on my phone singing/counting it, in key, so that I can have it for easy repeat listening later. Isolating a section of music like this helps me fill in the gaps.
CONDUCT: 13:23
With music that changes time signatures a lot, this is extra helpful. Remember that you’ll have to count and watch a conductor on stage. I find that putting music into my body with a gesture, like conducting, can help me memorize it faster and make fewer mistakes.
WORK BACKWARDS: 14:08
I often break up my music and learn it in backwards order, particularly if there is a long section. I memorize faster by always learning the next phrase!
WRITE THE TEXT: 15:19
As I’m getting to the point where I’ve been with the role for a few weeks and am starting to memorize, I close my score and write down my text, scene by scene, in its original language. For this, having a literal translation in my head is vital.
SPEAK THE TEXT: 19:11
An efficient way to get the language feeling natural is to speak the text, in rhythm or not in rhythm, both are helpful. There have been situations where I’ve been asked by a director to recite text as though I were in a play.
CONCENTRATED PRACTICE VS. DISTRACTED PRACTICE: 20:02
Concentrated means I do nothing but practice, without distractions, for a period of time: study, learn notes, sing, and repeat. Distracted practice means I’m practicing in my head but doing something else, such as running, doing chores, watching TV, etc. When I’m distracted I discover where the holes in my prep are, and tackle those in concentrated sessions.
WHEN TO PRACTICE: 23:34
I’m freshest in the morning, so that’s when I do most of my studying. I also find that if I glance through something just before bed I wake up with it strongly ingrained in my memory the next day.
GETTING IT INTO MY VOICE: 25:20
To keep from over-using my voice, I don’t sing through the role too early on. I like to get a mental grasp of the role before I start working it into my voice. I sing through a role after I’ve done all of the major bookwork, and I work it into my voice as the last major step in my preparation.
EVERYTHING CHANGES: 27:38
I can’t stress enough how much things will evolve from the time you start singing a role on your own, to the time you put it on its feet in rehearsal with your colleagues and conductor. I find that if I have built up too many habits before I get there, it’s harder to undo them once we get into rehearsals. Also the set, costumes, acoustics, staging…many things will affect your performance. So I try to be ready for anything. Prepared, but neutral!

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@LisetteOropesaSoprano
@LisetteOropesaSoprano 4 жыл бұрын
5000 characters is nowhere near enough room in the description box! What are your tips and tricks for learning new roles? Let me know below in the comments!
@adriwinp3
@adriwinp3 4 жыл бұрын
She is the Hermione Granger of Opera! Boy, I love her!! Rendez-vous au Met en Octobre ;)
@sameggenhuizen
@sameggenhuizen 4 жыл бұрын
I find that being so generous in sharing personal knowledge is one of the most open and sincere things to do. It shows the comfort in your skin. Besides, this was extremely helpful and I love it when my mind says 'oeh I do that too'! It builds confidence.. thank you Lisette for being so open
@aflethgsb
@aflethgsb 4 жыл бұрын
I love her video explanations. She is so down to earth, so easygoing, so one of us. You get the feeling that there is no magic behind what she does. And then you listen to her on stage: WOW! MAGIC! This surprise effect is huge. Oropesa is a great belcanto artist, so rare to be enjoyed by an adoring public. A real star.
@FrankSax77
@FrankSax77 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't it miraculous how she can and does break down all the steps she took for that Magic to happen?! You can see the relationship between the work and her transcendent artistic results. ☮️💛⚡
@musashi939
@musashi939 4 жыл бұрын
What makes her awesome is that she (or her manager Idk) understands the internet. Makes it work for her. This way she will attract a younger audience. I have nothing to do with singing or opera, just developed a little bit of interest in opera. Here comes the comparison.. As a martial arts practitioner my observation in my sphere is that we have a recruitment problem with the younger generation. Ok I'm not that old but my club jujitsu club grows older and we rarely get new members that fit our profile (ok that sounds arrogant but we have a peculiar style of humor etc). I guess opera has a similar recruitment problem with the youngens. Channels like Lisettes might help a little bit when it comes to that
@matthewjoly
@matthewjoly 4 жыл бұрын
Agree. Ages hence should Lisette decide to stop regular performing, she would make an excellent teacher and coach.
@tempsperdu9278
@tempsperdu9278 4 жыл бұрын
As a college professor, I know what it takes to teach well, and therefore I admire with all my heart and mind a good teacher. It takes loads of intelligence, dedication, professionalism, accessibility, striving for clarity, and last but not least, charm... All that, in this case, would make for a master didact... But then you add the voice, that silky gift from heaven, and you know you've before you a once-in-a-lifetime phenomenon...
@ajbaptiste
@ajbaptiste 2 жыл бұрын
Lisette, I honestly can't thank you enough for posting those videos. I am NOT an opera singer nor will I ever be. I religiously watch your training...I love you so much...love your voice, your mannerism and your being. Thanks again. God bless you and family and everything you touch...
@jennifermitchell3628
@jennifermitchell3628 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing!
@MisterOpera
@MisterOpera 4 жыл бұрын
Yasss! Here’s my tip! Ask a pianist to record JUST the orchestra part for you, while counting the main beats out loud. 1) if you don’t force them to count they always play too fast especially in the rests 2) if you learn Melodies out of context you’ll make extra work you didn’t need to make 3) when you passively memorize the piano score with a spoken beat, your brain is going to be looking for it from somewhere - the conductor will LOVE you and you’ll love the conductor. That makes you efficient in rehearsal. If you use the iPad app “forscore” you can add your backing tracks to the score. It’s very, very easy to stretch rhythms you know “clean”. It’s not so easy to tighten up rhythms your pianist has been stretching for you unconsciously! I’ve had people tell me it’s a bad idea because opera isn’t karaoke. Usually they don’t sing with orchestra. If you arrive with the rhythm of a pop singer, conductors will be able to work with you more efficiently! Awesome video Lisette. I especially agree with the advice to LEARN THE LANGUAGES. 😍 Anyone following your advice and recording on their phone, come to the vocalist chat hub on Facebook! You can share your short little clips in a safe place. Exactly the “ridiculous” stuff you are doing into your phone is the kind of thing we share in the chats.
@janetrogers8555
@janetrogers8555 4 жыл бұрын
At least 2 people who "watched" this video never bothered to learn their music and showed up to rehearsal unprepared! 😂
@martinm7607
@martinm7607 4 жыл бұрын
I could watch these videos all day. That tip about learning sections backwards is genius. I’m going to learn everything that way from now on. Can’t wait to hear your Manon!
@FrankSax77
@FrankSax77 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO MUCH dear Lisette! There's so much new good here; Counting, Conducting, the "Can I sing it while doing the dishes test." 😀 I especially appreciate your elevating and codifying "Distracted Practice" as the legitimate component of study that it is. I may be an amateur Baritone, but you're helping me nonetheless prepare for landing a Chorus position. Thank you. ☮️♥️⚡
@AzizaPoggiworld
@AzizaPoggiworld 4 ай бұрын
I am so glad for this. I also remember things in My sleep and I always practice first thing morning and before bed. I recite my lines in my sleep and they stick more. I love this !
@eboli7146
@eboli7146 4 жыл бұрын
You are a treasure!! Thank you so much for this comprehensive, intelligent and articulate guide.
@IvelinaDobreva
@IvelinaDobreva 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I am not a professional singer, I just started learning opera, but I started recording myself while singing with the teacher. After that, it can be even traveling, I listen to me and try to analyse my voice in order to know which part of the aria I sing worst/better. I watch a lot of videos in youtube because I am not a vocal coach but watching them analysing someone else's voice help me understand how voice works. And I listen to recordings as well because I have problems reading sheet music.
@katehunt8029
@katehunt8029 3 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video! I'm not an opera singer, or singer of any sort, but I love listening to opera (and play the flute). This video gives a wonderful insight into all the hard work that goes into creating an operatic role. What a generous person in every way! Thanks so much for making this video.
@isaballaserrano4991
@isaballaserrano4991 3 жыл бұрын
Love it! Thank you so much for sharing it ❤️🙌🏻🔥
@KyaunneeRichardson
@KyaunneeRichardson 3 жыл бұрын
These tips are wonderful! Thank you so much Lisette!!!
@hkisportmale5204
@hkisportmale5204 4 жыл бұрын
✨🌟Greetings from Finland! Thank you dear Lisette! Great video. It’s so nice to waiting for your Manon from MET. Toi,toi,toi to learning new production 🎼🎹🎻🗣🎵🎶🙌🙌🙌 AK🤗🙏❤️🌟✨
@ryanblanchfield1380
@ryanblanchfield1380 4 жыл бұрын
This was super useful but also KOMBUCHA YASSS GIRL!!! So glad you’re a health queen ☺️
@marizolitha
@marizolitha 4 жыл бұрын
You're amazing, all your tricks are very useful for me, thank you so much! 💜
@shortpam
@shortpam Жыл бұрын
What a great class on learning a new role. I have always wondered how singers accomplish that! Thank you for sharing your techniques. I am not a performer, though I love to sing in private, but I love to know how people do what they do! And you did that! 🥰
@filarfragueiro
@filarfragueiro 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched this video twice in a few months. She’s amazing
@alinemartins.musica
@alinemartins.musica 4 жыл бұрын
Video maravilhoso!! Estou ansiosa para te assistir cantar aqui no Rio de Janeiro em outubro. 😍
@KM-ch5gm
@KM-ch5gm 2 жыл бұрын
Lisette, you're awesome. Love you. Thanks for sharing your tips x
@natalkapasicznyk
@natalkapasicznyk 3 жыл бұрын
This is super helpful! I'm starting to learn some new roles and am so glad I heard some of these insights first - thank you!
@katekiwi9848
@katekiwi9848 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Lisette ❤
@katmartin6613
@katmartin6613 4 жыл бұрын
Wow!!!! I can't thank you enough for sharing this. Invaluable information!!!
@LisetteOropesaSoprano
@LisetteOropesaSoprano 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it could help!
@bluechazzan
@bluechazzan 4 жыл бұрын
this is outstanding. many thanks.
@apostolic105
@apostolic105 4 жыл бұрын
This was brilliant! BTW, thank you for featuring me in your gallery on your website!!! I’m so honored.
@katherinewinitana2151
@katherinewinitana2151 4 жыл бұрын
I’m off to practice! Thanks for the inspo x
@stephencostan207
@stephencostan207 2 жыл бұрын
i love this....such a cleverway to learn text.............this is what actors do..................experiential learning so important.....knowing that repetition puts the part into your body....................distracted practice is the key........................love your work ethic lisette
@Graphicxtras1
@Graphicxtras1 4 жыл бұрын
Superb video - totally awestruck, I am trying to just memorise a couple of sheets of pop music and I still get them wrong over and over (and they are in English, no hope if they were in French). A lot of great advice that hopefully will help with my first baby steps into singing and learning the songs. Will re-watch the video. I throughly enjoy your excellent tutorials.
@corneliuswhite5139
@corneliuswhite5139 4 жыл бұрын
You are spot on!! This is really great!
@LisetteOropesaSoprano
@LisetteOropesaSoprano 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful!!
@instantopera
@instantopera 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Lisette, learning my first role and found your video super valuable!
@llatatenor
@llatatenor 4 жыл бұрын
Muy útil. Gracias por tu generosidad. Saludos desde Santander (España). 🥰
@lorquinomiranda
@lorquinomiranda 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for that important information! You are a great artist, and a very intelligent person. Keep on with the sucess!!!
@stephanernst605
@stephanernst605 2 жыл бұрын
Ich habe niemals eine unterhaltsamere, lebendigere, inspirierendere, intelligentere und zugleich schöne Frau gesehen. Ich bin kein professioneller Sänger, aber diese halbe Stunde ist wow und klasse und da steckt eine Menge von Hilfen drin, die ich jungen Menschen, die konzentriert sich in Dinge einarbeiten müssen, auch erzähle. Ich hoffe, Lisette einmal persönlich kennenzulernen. Was für eine Persönlichkeit 😉
@mireilleassena
@mireilleassena 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. This will ne very helpful to me. Best wishes for the New Year 2021
@anne-sophievezinhet7821
@anne-sophievezinhet7821 4 жыл бұрын
Je savais qu’apprendre un opéra était difficile, votre vidéo met des mots sur ce travail dantesque! Elle montre la réalité du quotidien, la somme de difficulté (paroles, jeu, chant, passages techniques, costumes...) et tout ce à quoi il faut se préparer. Cela permet d’apprécier encore plus une performance! Merci pour ce partage généreux et bravo!
@LisetteOropesaSoprano
@LisetteOropesaSoprano 4 жыл бұрын
Merci beaucoup Anne-Sophie!
@cecilia63092
@cecilia63092 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lisette!!!!❤
@vitabella6481
@vitabella6481 4 жыл бұрын
I also write down all my texts. I can remember much better when I write something down. Also speaking the text with support like an actor helps a lot.
@joshuarappaport15
@joshuarappaport15 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your Manon on the HD screen.
@akechijubeimitsuhide
@akechijubeimitsuhide 4 жыл бұрын
Same! I've never heard Massenet's version before so I'm excited :D
@highbaritone
@highbaritone 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic post. It took me a long time to memorize. I too use to write down, not all the time, but I should have. I use to play a game with myself. Not until I could, either in my head or out loud, get through a song five times perfectly did I feel comfortable. Even the smallest mistake I would go back start over. This is a great thing you are doing for young singers. For us older ones too. Cheers. Don 👋🇦🇺
@confencelee2885
@confencelee2885 2 жыл бұрын
Fan from China wish you all performances well
@elizabethdevoto7566
@elizabethdevoto7566 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Lissette, this is so helpful and generous of you to put out on youtube. Thank you so much! I am just wondering if you have any tips on making sure you aren’t getting into any bad vocal habits when you are just learning the music and still not yet singing full voice?
@lauraoruetamezzosoprano9155
@lauraoruetamezzosoprano9155 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats for the video is great!! I will watch it again more times, for sure! I was just curious about the kombucha bottle that is on your table. I also saw Arteta drinking it in a break during a performance, does it have benefits on you as a singer? Greetings from Spain :)
@deadwalke9588
@deadwalke9588 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Lisette. Quick question -- could it be possible for you to do an in-depth about the young artists programs and what one should expect to find in it when one does one or when one begins looking at some programs? I would love to see a video like that and just know you'd be a great advocate on that topic.
@charliekim2939
@charliekim2939 4 жыл бұрын
I guess I would be watching more operas just because Lisette is singing. For many decades there was just one soprano I was obsessed about, but now I have two. I am pretty sure there won't be a third.
@nonamemoon8585
@nonamemoon8585 4 жыл бұрын
Lisette, estoy estudiando y batallo mucho contra mi pudor al ensayar, ya que como aún no canto como quisiera, pero mi voz es bastante fuerte, siento que estoy haciendo demasiado ridículo ante los vecinos jajaj podrías en algún video contar cómo ensayabas cuando recién estabas aprendiendo, algún consejo para acondicionar el lugar y que no me escuchen por ej? Muchas gracias!
@bjbob3920
@bjbob3920 Жыл бұрын
I loved how informative you were in the video, but I was wondering how much time are you given to learn the music before having rehearsals with the director and the conductor?
@alfredomiranda5098
@alfredomiranda5098 3 ай бұрын
In Argentina we say: “Se la sabe de atrás para adelante” 😂
@Mary-ue5kc
@Mary-ue5kc 3 жыл бұрын
I got a song from the Queen of the Night! 🥺🥳
@sophia-luciakwon2792
@sophia-luciakwon2792 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where we can buy these Score Books? Thank You~
@ivanabutler6213
@ivanabutler6213 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Lisette! Do you ever recall having had difficulty delivering clear, fast melismas? If so or even if not, how do you deliver those with vibrato? Thank you!
@LisetteOropesaSoprano
@LisetteOropesaSoprano 4 жыл бұрын
YES omg they can be so hard! I remember singing Ismene in MITRIDATE and really struggling with getting them into my voice and the conductor wanted them quite fast. But they DO get better with practice, because once you've got them "programed," muscle memory helps you get more and more accurate. The best solution I find is to work on them at the quickest tempo that you can do them ACCURATELY and speed up little by little from there, with a metronome, if that helps, over the course of at least a couple of weeks. It's drill work and you may never get to machine gun speed but your muscles will get better at controlling the runs. Hope that helps!
@ivanabutler6213
@ivanabutler6213 4 жыл бұрын
Yes this does help so much! I will continue to be patient and build up my fluidity and accuracy in my runs. Thank you so much!!!
@hatersgottahatewejustgotta198
@hatersgottahatewejustgotta198 4 жыл бұрын
So cingrats, i have only tommorow to learn my role on my acting class, stressed as fuck and yeah.
@gvbrandolini
@gvbrandolini 3 жыл бұрын
Interessante
@billliu8755
@billliu8755 Жыл бұрын
您好,我是看了刘建伟加入您演出的那段视频知道您。看了您多段视频,谢谢您,祝福您
@junniorchajon935
@junniorchajon935 4 жыл бұрын
Make a video with Regis mengus plis
@martinasavarese6011
@martinasavarese6011 2 жыл бұрын
how long does it take you to Learn a role?
@paolodellacorte4627
@paolodellacorte4627 4 жыл бұрын
What if I can’t read music very well?
@LisetteOropesaSoprano
@LisetteOropesaSoprano 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, well a tip to help you is to hone your sight reading skills on simple short songs such as Bach chorales or short hymns. If you get a hymnbook, just go through and practice one by one with a piano, until you can sight-sing without making too many mistakes. It helps if you can get comfortable with the piano. For me, intervals help me sight-sing too. Memorize what a major third, a perfect fourth, a perfect fifth, a sixth, etc, all sound like and feel like to sing. It will help you a lot. And of course vocalizing with scales! Very helpful. :) Good luck!
@paolodellacorte4627
@paolodellacorte4627 4 жыл бұрын
Lisette Oropesa Thank you!
@hamburgdp
@hamburgdp 3 жыл бұрын
Lisette is the best! If you need a resource to help apply all of her awesome principles, check out Top 10 Role Study at rolestudy.com
@BellaFirenze
@BellaFirenze 4 жыл бұрын
Massenet's Manon... One name: Victoria de los Ángeles.
@Tadpoletofrogs
@Tadpoletofrogs 4 жыл бұрын
Freni is better.
@cvlen
@cvlen 4 жыл бұрын
Who cares who was better? Let's just enjoy them :D
@MaestroWenarto
@MaestroWenarto 4 жыл бұрын
Czech and Russians = are so difficult to learn.....
@LisetteOropesaSoprano
@LisetteOropesaSoprano 4 жыл бұрын
So true, and it needs a year of studying the language by itself to just get started! At least for my pace...
@a0z9
@a0z9 4 жыл бұрын
Sprichst du deutsch? Kannst du aus dem Repertoire von Wagner singen? www.operaactual.com/noticia/cancelado-el-festival-de-bayreuth-2020/ kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5DLoaeafs16e6M Ligero, lírico o dramático, todos los registros te van bien. No se te va a estropear la voz. El secreto es tener siempre impostada la voz, hasta para hablar. Hay tenores con 50 años de carrera. Las sopranos sfogato también existen y además son las mejores.
@vidalelena5531
@vidalelena5531 Жыл бұрын
Please!! You speak so fast!!!! I can't follow you😅😅
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