Learning Curve ECP 18

[@pmchamlee]

Wow! This episode will go down as one of the best you two have ever produced! Personally, I plumbed myself through college, Started and finished a career in the USAF, learned to speak and read Chinese (which I still study daily), Built numerous buildings and ultimately my current home, Learned morse code and have been a Ham for 45 years, Earned a master electrician license in SC, built my own floor-laying company, achieved a baccalaureate degree in agriculture, and at 74 years old, thanks to your encouragement, my new welder will be here next Tuesday, whereupon I will learn to marry steel and beyond that - I bought a great anvil which I intend to use with the forge you proposed in a recent video. Whew! Thanks for letting me ride along!

[@edwilliams4793]

Thanks, Guys. At 71 I recently joined the electrician's union as a newbie. This after teaching myself auto mechanics, tree trimming & corrective surgery, chimney work, masonry repair & restoration, etc. I thought I was just weird... Keep up the good work & God bless you and yours.

[@jenniferfarsh675]

Future sons and daughters of your family tree will have these amazing interviews. Blessings for them and for all humanity. Thank you

[@davidanglin4979]

As a guy who grew up as a tobacco and cattle farmer, then went to school to become a civil engineer, working summers for a grading company, graduating school and working for an engineering firm, only to discover that even though I love crunching numbers and using them to solve problems, I like dealing with people more than computers and calculators, so I became an industrial construction project manager, and most recently a building material sales rep to better facilitate family life, this is a topic I have put a lot of thought into, especially over the last 5 years. Five years ago, I was introduced to the SL II leadership model and like most of you thought it was a bunch of BS produced by someone trying to sell a book. Through working with the model as both the learner and the manager, I have realized that it is really both a management and development guide that deals directly with the learning curve. Someone else commented that they struggle teaching young guys about their trade. Understanding the development levels has helped me both be a better learner AND then a better manager. D1: A person is new to learning something. Generally they will have fairly high commitment/enthusiasm, but their competence is low. This is the flat part of that curve. You don’t know anything about it, but you jumped in with both feet. D2: Still the flat part of the curve, you have still learned very little, so your competence is low and now since things aren’t progressing quickly enough, your enthusiasm is waning and you aren’t as committed to learning. This is where the “skill stacking” that Scott and Nate discusses can help as a learner. Having multiple other skills to pull from can help get through this lull period much faster. As managers, we have to understand almost everyone hits this phase and it is our job to help develop them and encourage them to push through it. Unfortunately, this is also where many people get frustrated, decide this skill isn’t for them, and quit...often right before the breakthrough. D3: This is where you have started learning parts of the new skill and your competence is rising. However, because everything isn’t clicking yet, your enthusiasm/commitment to learning is up and down. Again, “skill stacking” can help shorten this period for some people. As managers, this is where people need coaching not necessarily for the skill, but how to connect the dots and apply it. The learning curve has started uphill now. D4: This is where things are finally starting to click and you are able to connect the dots. The learning curve has gone more vertical because as competence has increased, so has commitment and an increase in one leads to an increase in the other as they feed off each other. Sorry for getting so long winded...engineering brain getting turned loose again. Listening to this discussion reminded me of the struggles I have gone through in learning new skills and how both understanding my learning frustrations as a learner and coaching others as a manager. Discovering the SLII model has helped me become a better learner and a better manager.

[@psidvicious]

D1: What you don’t know, you need to make up in hustle.

[@keithbrdt]

Hits home to me .. My lively hood is owning and operating a tow company. My great grand father started a salvage company in 1900.. Started to weld at 6 yrs old My Father was multi faceted and built houses and I remember being frustrated over something and he would tell me . Know a trade or go up in ash ... Never really knew what that meant until after he passed .. He was a death camp survivor during ww2 , did not find that out never talked about it and removed his tattoo off his arm. He had nothing to do with religion and raised us as compassion and humility ... His trades and skills kept him alive ...

[@danmetzger5583]

Scott, Until 2010 I had been a Land Survey and Mapping Tech since 1998. Then I went to work in Alaska doing Contract Admin and Oversite on Civil Engineering projects related to transportation with Native Tribes. In 2018 I moved back to MD. to be closer to my grandkids. In June of last year I took a position as a Civil Engineer Designer. Something I have never done before. The learning curve has been really steep.....ESD StormWater Management Calcs, Storm Drainage Design, Sediment & Erosion Control, etc, etc. I am now 60 but the learning has never ceased. As you said, "If the learning stops, you are done". Keep up the good work Scott and I hope I will get to see you at the Bash again this year. My mom just turned 83 on the 10th....Happy birthday to you as well! Dan Metzger

[@teddahrable]

I am so relieved to catch this video. I often wondered if there was something wrong with me. I have trade papers for Carpentry and plumbing, third year Electrician, second year HVAC. Because of my circumstances early in life, I needed to always have work and I couldn't afford to pay for other services, so I had to learn to do them myself. I learned gunsmithing and repair (80%). I learned to both cast and swage bullets for reloading so I could shoot more. I learned to live in the wilderness and navigate cross country (I taught myself all I could and the joined the Canadian Infantry to learn more (I didn't learn much more for a number of years). I did, however become quite a proficient marksman. I've learned small engines, complete vehicle teardown and repairs. Welding and machining are self-taught (along with lots of machinist videos). I ran a chainsaw cutting pulpwood and survey lines. I can lay blocks and other masonry. This weekend I milled my first rough pine beams with a chainsaw and built a bench. There is still more I can't think of right now, but I can't seem to stop. Thanks for letting me know I'm not a complete weirdo.

[@minhavidanaamerica]

As a millwright apprentice I can testify that the learning curve does not only start "level" it will also have ups and downs even after it starts rising. Meaning you will have days that you feel like "I think I am starting to get good at this" and then someday some new challenge appears and humbles you.

[@horneygeorgeforge7079]

I'm 66 and have learned some, about many things, but I have found that the more I have learned, the more I realize there is so much more to be learned.

[@articchar-lf]

Thanks a million from someone actually searching his identity through his skills' stack. This video was a humble, generous and healing piece of useful wisdom. I am grateful for this kind of content which is one main reason why I binge watch your channels nowadays. The common Cannuckistan shame of being an non-academic jack of all trades I was suffering from is gone for good!

[@mcmillanstu]

Great episode! I’m learning to play the fiddle later in life, partly to show my kids that learning can and should be a life long pursuit. I’ve also almost finished adding an extension to my house and have loved learning all the skills needed. On the point of opportunities which come to you vs. ones that you seek out, we all value more the things we put effort into. So sought-out knowledge will be more keenly accepted and pursued.

[@tommywilliamson152]

My dad always told me to always keep in mind that you never really know anyrhing about what you think you know, even though you may already know alot more than most orhers. My mother always said the day that I stop learning something new is the day that I die. These have been two of the messages that I have always kept with me through life even now at as I approach 65.

[@Enispecialist]

It would be really cool to have AvE on the podcast. I envision a top down shot of the table with three pairs of hands sitting there talking.

[@dbayboyds409]

Calvin YES! That would be wicked!

[@MsElijah16]

Haha

[@kaiamccoy7387]

Make it happen, you guys are both on the west coast!

[@plumber77mjr]

that would diminish the value of this channel, that guy drives me crazy

[@jimjones4345]

@@plumber77mjr disagree, ave has a very good perspective on alot of things, I know some people dont like that he swears alot, but I'm sure he's respectful and smart enough to know when to turn that off.

[@TheKenstarr]

I love learning! I'm in my 40's and not in school. While going through college I became a butcher and managed a meat department. Because of the work, college took me forever, and financially it was probably not worth it but I'm proud of myself for getting my associates (environmental tech. Management) and bachelor's (soil and water science) and not quitting. Right after graduation, I decided to become an electrician and now I'm a journeyman. I'll be able to take my masters in a couple more years! I want to get into some night classes for machining.

[@geordiepoole4420]

If you stay teachable, everything’s reachable 👍 and many happy returns Scott

[@colemanfairburn1721]

Lifelong learning is a personality trait. Many people are simply not interested in "furthering" themselves but rather just "being." Keep up the good work!

[@owensandcompany]

I enjoyed this conversation, even though I’m catching up a year later. Over my lifetime I’ve had the opportunity to learn and engage in several different skill sets in the building trades. My main trade is electrical and acquired my master’s license, I self taught my way through HVAC and acquired all my licensing for that trade. I’ve leaned framing, ceramic & hardwood flooring, trim carpentry, concrete, block laying, drywall, plumbing. I built my house 100% and was a general contractor doing remodeling and additions for a few years. I wouldn’t claim to have mastered most of those skills, only the ones I mainly do on a regular basis. The other skills suffer from lack of regular exercising the skills and I have to remember what I’ve forgotten. New standards of practice and new technologies enter and I realize I’ve fallen behind. My book shelves are lined with manuals, code books, and how to’s. Overall, there is immense value in having a rounded knowledge of many things rather than being fully specialized. I believe there is more satisfaction in knowing a variety of skills even if that comes with a lack of mastery.

[@mikes1345]

I spent 41 years in a career learning it well. I have since retired and going back to relearn skills i had started in my youth and had become backseat to my career. This rediscovery or improving old skills and interests have opened my little world up to new things. My doctor told me to stay active in retirement and he has no idea how much i have to do. My fix it skills have become better and my hobbies have expanded. Researching how other people get things done, even in crafts i will never do is still relavent because of their problem solving and application methods carry over many disciplines. Sure is way more interesting than the crap on the tv. Now with you tube a person can see how people do things in many different ways and this can be tried and applied. Just have to sort out the b.s. from valid information. Your channel is helpful in numerous ways and Cy is just the cameo star who makes us wonder.

[@Mrgui110tine]

You guys are low level mentoring thousands of people. Thank you

[@Jim-Wade]

Happy Birthday! 62 is young!!! I'm 72 and lifelong learning has been a priority always. Jack of all trades is a good description of many of us. Learning begins with observing, and there is real joy in observing whether you are young or old. This is especially true if you are able to observe skilled craftsmen make mistakes and correct them. Learning more is often about learning to do something in a better way. This is where the guild system shines when compared to what passes for much education these days. Skills are tools, and the more tools you have, the better; but acquiring tools never finds fulfillment in the acquisition alone; tools must be used or they benefit no one.

[@JohnMcGrathManInShed]

Never stop learning! I'm a motorbike riding, guitar playing, Jiu-Jitsu practicing, woodworking, Woodturning, YouTubing, Electrician. With a hankering to try blacksmithing. Happy Birthday!

[@zachjohnson7654]

100%. I started to have the attitude that I knew everything in my profession after 8 or so years. Fast forward to at about 12 years I realized that I continue to have revelations and started to see that I still had so much to learn. Now I'm at 17 years and carry that attitude every day. I think that's one of my biggest assets.

[@2old2care64]

Good topic to touch on guys. Learning is a skill onto itself. I worked in the trades for almost twenty years and believed that my knowledge of my craft was top level. Then I became an instructor in my area of expertise and quickly discovered I only knew a portion of what the craft entailed. I learned so much by teaching what I thought I knew. Teaching became another skill to master as well as learning how to use the tech available to provide visual aides and such. Thank you both for passing on the word.

[@WILSHIRERN]

Happy birthday old boy keep up the good work x god bless u

[@stuartlockwood9645]

Hi Scott and Nate, great discussion, and some sage advice. To quote AVE, if you want to get smart as quick as possible, hang around smart people, that way you shortcut up the learning ladder, personally at 72 yrs old alot of new interests , and curiosity about stuff comes from my teenage grandchildren, their enthusiasm keeps me on my toes, I'm fairly new to the Internet, but find yutube , and your videos in particular so informative, entertaining, and it's a real pleasure to ride along whith you, whith whatever your doing. Best wishes to you and your's, Stuart.uk.

[@CleaveMountaineering]

Happy birthday! Great thoughts. My "career path" (unintentional though it was) has included: bicycle mechanics, rock climbing, backpacking guiding, high ropes course facilitator, general construction, Bible college, mechanical engineering BSME, machining/manufacturing/fabrication, high angle construction, custom sewing side business, HF/VHF antenna design, testing, fabrication, aerial adventure design/engineering. You know what? This odd background is a pretty perfect setup for what I do now, because I can relate to almost everyone we work with to design/analyse, fabricate, install, commission, train, operate, and maintain these courses. And now, newbie hobbyist blacksmithing, having lots of fun! My mom says "nothing is wasted in the providence of God" My dad says "learn something new every day!" And the best, a husband and father of 3 little boys!

[@allanbarber4038]

Happy Birthday Scott! When you talked of Cy and cutting horses, his attitude as you described it made me think he would like one of my definitions for 'expert' - and 'ex' is a has been and a spurt is a drip under pressure. You are so right when you say that no matter how big and bad you are, there is always someone bigger and badder than you - and smarter too. One more definition for you: A Master Craftsman is someone that can - and does - fix his own mistakes. You showed that when you fixed the stairs on the spec house! Totally enjoy your channels on You tube. PS; You left out Cy's anvil shoots and the large bore black powder cannons he has made.

[@learning2read]

Well said!

[@Ev-eq8zn]

9:20 Learning how to learn... I owe all my successes in life, and future successes to mastering the art of learning. Whether I knew it or not, I think I picked up this skill early in life, and everything from then on was just more practice and experience, developing the art of learning. It's allowed me to do so much, and definitely something I'd like to pass on to my future children.

[@lewisbullock3349]

I listen to your podcast whenever new episodes are available on my morning commute. Having recently watched AvE’s vidjayo on the meaning of life this spoke to me deeply about the learning curve. I played both AvE’s video and this one to my team at work during our weekly meeting, following which we had a open discussion on the themes and takeaways. What stood out to many of us was the concept that someone can be an expert in a combination of fields and skill sets, without being master of any of them. My team are generalists by nature, adapting to perform diverse roles for the business day by day, hour by hour, whenever and what is required of them. We are now proud to think of ourselves of Jack-of-all-trades, and moreover as Swiss Army Knives. Thank you

[@jum5238]

Loved hearing about Cy! I'm a lifelong learner. My wife wants me to stop picking up new interests (because I usually have to buy stuff to go with it.)

[@MsElijah16]

Ju M hahahaha I've spent 30 k on carpentry tools and a vehicle in the past year and a half, I hear what you're saying

[@danielzukeran7625]

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU. this is the million dollar question I would have asked you in person. I used to think it was a curse not being content with one field but like you mentioned Si takes a lot to 90%. I guess the question is how to earn a descent living WHILE satisfying the desire for new skills and new knowledge which at this level take up substantial time? Thanks again you too! Aloha!

[@dweathers56b]

For me, I have been exposed to many different disciplines, logging, farming, mechanic and other things; now as a manager of younger people I fail because I expect them to know what I know. That a bad thing sometimes. Young men today have no real experience with so many things.

[@rocketwontoo5073]

Think of that as an opportunity to teach them new skills.

[@MsElijah16]

I have a guy that works with me at the moment, yeah it sucks making an effort to show and teach someone how to do something but if anything it's developing my teaching skills, if I can't improve this guy then that must mean I'm a shit teacher

[@teddahrable]

I have found that most don't WANT to put in the effort to learn, they just want you to do it for them. And I have DOZENS of these kids "working" for me. If the RCAF were a business, it couldn't afford to be in business. Kids that know NOTHING cost a lot of money!

[@2chipped]

I know exactly what you mean. Had a 30 yr'old in a rural county who had never used a tape measure or hammer. These 2 basic tools should be taught to every person by the age of 10.

[@rezzbuilds8343]

Nope I had to learn all that in my mid twenties. So yeah it sucked being treated as if I somehow would know all this stuff

[@jeremymullen6149]

wow! this resonates with me so much. really some things i needed to hear, and some echoes of things Ive been thinking. Well done. very powerful. Thank you! God bless

[@vanuren3345]

Hey Guys, I loved the discussion about learning and was reminded of when I was an apprentice Neon Electrician and took classes at the local community college in electronics and welding. Nate you need to sign on over at Umpqua Community College to discover what you're yearning to learn as I'm quite sure a single semester would fill that gap in your bucket list. Be well guys, from a life long learner.

[@EC2]

Great idea, thanks Van!

[@ropetrick6289]

I am nurse and have been for 1 years now. I still come to work with the attitude that even though I know a lot I still have more to learn, and with that attitude I do learn more. But worse is if you don't have that attitude and you think you know everything then I think you are a danger to you and your patients. Do be afraid to ask if you don't know something even if you think you know it all. You can't know it all. Thank you for the great videos.

[@Truckwrench]

My hi school welding teacher always said that even we didn’t become good at welding he wanted is to know what was required to make a good weld and what one looked like. 40% of our marks were awarded on effort and attitude. I only became good at welding after leaving school , but I had learned what was required to better my self in his classes.

[@3bnjo3]

One of the major benefits of learning a new skill is the people you meet who share their knowledge and enthusiasm. Learning to play an instrument introduced me to many amazing people who encouraged and taught me. I'll never be a master, but it sure is fun.

[@christoskettenis880]

I couldn't agree more! I am also an advocate of the "Swiss Army guy", both in trade skills and in education. As an engineer by training, I was able to become a researcher by doing a PhD and now I am working as teaching academic and as a high school tutor. However, since my dad kept a workshop at our house basement, me and my brothers learned from a young age how to use tools and years later we helped him raise dry-walls, install air-con units and our central heating. I also managed to become a self-taugh welder by making a trap-frame for my best man's gym and I am eager to continue doing this kind of projects. Love to learn and absorb information and skills! By the way, I can give you some of my teaching matterial on basic electrical circuits if you wish to learn circuits at a more theoretical level

[@steeveaddkins3755]

I've never seen a better 1 man building crew as Steve Houde. The methods he uses to stock, store, and apply all materials is amazing. You two should write a book on jobsite setup.

[@ahrush575]

Scott, I am also in my sixties and picking up on your wish to learn another language I myself started to learn Spanish with the use of just an app on my phone, and i've got to say that it's been such an enjoyable and enlightening thing to be a part of, it's only twenty miniutes a day, and it's been over a year now since I started, so go for it ! All the very best, and keep up the good work - All the way from the old country - UK

[@therealidaho6094]

You guys are awesome you speak the exact same language I speak as far as you think what I think I love watching and I hope you continue to do this

[@dabeamer42]

I was an extremely intelligent little kid (I'm about 7 months older than Scott), and I realize now that it was both a blessing and a curse. I picked up facts and abilities without trying. I skipped a grade in school. The thing that wound up sticking in my head, however, was that I didn't get used to saying "I don't know". A matter of pride, probably, but I also didn't know any better. So, Yes, being vulnerable enough to be teachable, being humble enough to be teachable -- that was the one thing I didn't learn. And it has had unpleasant ramifications so often...

[@tylersmith1029]

As a kid, I always thought that men should be a jack of all trades, and approach mastery to one of them in order to pay the bills. My dad is like that, as a master plumber and master welder he supports himself and provided for our family, but the man can do really well in a lot of other things (mechanical work, several aspects of construction, fitness, nutrition, etc) and instilled that same kind of mentality in me by showing me the start of each learning curve. Now as an adult, I find myself being more and more appreciative of being at various levels in numerous learning curves. Speaking to your topic of convergence/skill stacking, I completely agree that it becomes really beneficial later in life. Transitioning into a new job that is largely centered around being proficient at several different trades, having some experience in lots of things gives me confidence as I continue up certain learning curves and makes being at the bottom of new learning curves very exciting. Indeed, the vulnerability involved with learning something new breeds some of the highest feelings of gratification and happiness in life.

[@kengamble8595]

Most EXCELLENT show guys ! This hits very close to home for me because I've always had a craving for learning something new ! Had plenty of patience for new things but had little patience for people that did not want to learn! Enjoyed this one very much! Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍 👍

[@daviecr8on1]

Love you guys, love your channel! I hope I can some day pass along the knowledge I gain here to my children.

[@NeilRamroop33]

I love the 'convergence' topic and the metaphor of the Swiss army knife. I'm able to relate! More and more in my job I am looked to for advice, and I believe it's that intersection of varied skills that make me somewhat unique. As always, keep up the good work :)

[@popmop1234]

0:00: 📚 The podcast episode discusses the importance of continuous learning and the negative consequences of becoming content with a flattened learning curve. 0:00: Most people lose interest in learning in their mid-20s and become content with their current knowledge. 0:17: Once you give up on learning and become content with a flattened learning curve, you are dead to the world. 1:04: The episode is not related to KZbin or craftsmanship directly, but focuses on the concept of the learning curve. 3:52: 📚 The video discusses the learning curve in various tasks and hobbies, emphasizing the importance of mastering the basics before progressing. 3:52: There is a period of time in most tasks or hobbies where you're not learning much because you're focusing on the basics. 4:02: Mastering the fundamentals is crucial before moving on to more advanced skills. 4:16: The speaker shares an anecdote about his son's experience in a basketball team, highlighting the importance of practicing basic drills before shooting. 7:13: 📚 Learning is a lifelong process and it is impossible to master everything in a lifetime. 7:13: There is more to learn in any topic or field than one can learn in a lifetime. 7:29: The craft of blacksmithing is complex and requires significant mastery. 7:57: Taking up multiple learning curves is advised to gain knowledge. 10:46: 📚 The biggest gift someone can give you is to point out where you don't know what you're talking about and be open to learning. 10:46: A wise man welcomes correction and sees it as an opportunity to learn. 11:12: Access to information and knowledge through technology can change our mindset. 11:27: Seek out information and be open to learning. 14:27: ! The speaker discusses the challenge of balancing multiple vertical learning curves and limited time in life. 14:27: Balancing multiple vertical learning curves and limited time in life. 14:48: Deciding which areas to focus on and achieve significant mastery in. 14:58: The speaker's mother contemplates whether to invest time in learning fiddle playing. 18:34: 📚 The video discusses the learning curve in business and career development. 18:34: The individual mentioned in the video is described as a Swiss Army knife with a mastery of multiple skills. 19:16: The learning curve is important for career growth and advancement in business. 21:55: 🐴 A cutting horse is a highly trained and agile horse that can separate specific cows from a group of cattle. 21:55: A cutting horse is skilled at anticipating and segregating specific animals from a group. 22:19: A high-end cutting horse is fully trained to work with the rider. 25:02: 👴 The video discusses the impressive skills and voracious learning attitude of an 83-year-old man who is proficient in various trades and technology, including music and computers. 25:02: The man is skilled in machining, music, and speaks a little Spanish. 25:26: He has a strong passion for learning and is always reading books or working. 25:51: Despite his age, he is proficient in using computers. 28:26: 💡 Valuing learning personally and modeling it to children is key to remaining a learner. 28:26: Valuing learning personally and modeling it to children is key to remaining a learner. 28:38: If children see their parents valuing distraction and entertainment over learning, they won't value learning either. 29:12: Having a hobby or skill that one still wants to learn is important. Recap by Tammy AI

[@tswwow]

This was captivating. Thank you for making this.

In Lithuania we have similar saying - „Devyni amatai, dešimtas badas“, which means something like "nine trades, tenth - hunger". Anyway, it's awesome to learn or try new things, it keeps the life a little bit more interesting. :)

[@jeffputnam8554]

Great topic and one that needs to be implemented more. In our world there is no need for anyone to be bored. I am always looking for another skill set and that makes my days full. Since selling my plumbing business I have sure enjoyed dipping my toe into blacksmithing and machining. Love it

[@Mrcool12684]

you guys are awesome! Keep doing this channel please!

[@kiwdwks]

I love these conversations! Thanks for sharing it!

[@diffperspectiveok]

For some reason this makes me think of your fellow Oregonian KZbin personality Paul Harrell. He did a video or two on how to spot a fake expert - or real. Interestingly enough, a good way was to ask questions in humility. Keep up the good work guys.

[@bobsmith-ru7xp]

Paul is the man

[@cjmiller1871]

Checking him out now....

[@francisrampen9099]

Awesome conversation - I think it is amazing how people like yourselves, AVE, This Old Tony, Tech Ingredients, Steve Summers, Robrenz, the History guy etc. etc.. are really moving KZbin into being an incredible education medium. Amongst the dreck and nonsense there is some really amazing people and amazing information and thank you for being at the vanguard. KZbin is where it is at.

[@barakburt4099]

You guys are awesome God bless you!!

[@alanbromfield1387]

Oh wow! That was so profound. So many insights and pearls of wisdom. I especially identified with the parenting by example anecdote, to demonstrate to your kids that learning is a lifetime vocation. I’m 70 (going on 50), remodelling our home bought 6 years ago. I came to the conclusion that almost all my learning throughout life has been technical, practical, or problem solving. Almost never artistic or creative. Started to learn guitar a month ago and solidly on the flatline of chord practice and muscle memory development but it is sooo rewarding and therapeutic to be starting out on a new skill that distracts totally from everything that otherwise fills my days. Thank you guys for sharing your wisdom.

[@alanbromfield1387]

Parenting at 31.50

[@jakerogers6562]

Happy Birthday Scott! Thank you and Nate for all yall do. Keep up the good work !

[@frankcurley]

Thank you for forcing me to be honest about myself...and my relationships with others.

[@calebmattix391]

Every new episode is spot on, I really appreciate the thoughts and content. Keep up the good work!

[@shiftysam101]

I listen to every podcast you put out on an app and enjoy the insight in all of them. Just following directions and letting you know here!

[@ryanbraaten934]

Very interesting show - I realized I need to improve my learning curve when it comes to vocabulary when you dropped “inculcate” like it was a word people use every day. :)

[@billhenshall2380]

I think you hit on an interesting point about multiple learning curves. I kinda believe that to an extent you can sustain several learning curves at the same time. You have cited Cy as an example. I can’t get past the language of AvE to enjoy his channel, but he is certainly an example of multiple learning curves. I would not diminish the birthday boy’s skill sets. So I believe that the more skill sets and learning curves you attempt to sustain the more you can accomplish quickly. So keep up the qualitative learning in your next many happy years to come!!!

[@RobbieCallihan]

When y'all were talking about mastering an occupation I was reminded (I think it's a Japanese concept) of the theory that to become a master in any field, you must spend 60,000 hours in that occupation. Which equates to about 29 years of working 40 hour weeks every week of the year. Just interesting side note.

[@RobbieCallihan]

www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B07PJMLKJ6/ref=atv_hm_hom_3_c_D4dtpS_2_1 This link goes to an Amazon movie called Takumi about mastering an occupation. Interesting watch.

[@2chipped]

A master is considered at 10000. But it depends on the person, and field.

[@turtleairships]

Your wonderful rascal teasers! I see my book there on the desk! just that made my day, let alone hear words of wisdom from heart-held friends. Happy Birthday Scott! Darrell

[@joshburton2815]

Great podcast guys! When it creates in depth thoughts and self analysis like this video did, it's definitely worthwhile. Thank you 😁👍

[@carmichaelcourt3440]

Agreed guys, about the learning in particular. You have to be curious, that leads to a want to know, that leads to the learning part. How you foster that is probably the hardest part to figure out. I'm naturally curious, always have been, and I guess I always will be, which is one of the reasons why I enjoy your shows, and I'm sure it's why so many others do as well.

[@charlesaaroncamp8546]

Would love to hear your thoughts on Wendell Berry's agrarian essays and writings. You touched on generalist rather than specialist which he addresses a lot. Would definitely recommend reading his stuff if you haven't.

[@marklyon3071]

Learning new skills is something I believe we learn from our parents, mine were always investing time and effort into learning new things and it inspired me to do the same..

[@jchasew342]

What a fantastic topic. I was engaged the whole time and by the end I was inspired. Time for me to learn a new skill.

[@antonmcgready9285]

"Happy birthday!" wishes headed your way Scott. '58 was a very good year!!! Nate is correct when he includes in your quiver that you are a good teacher, and having recently retired from teaching after 38 years I feel I'm qualified to comment.

[@billymarble]

I know I’m 3 months late on this video but I love the topic. Something I continuously say on-site is “the minute you stop thinking you know everything is the same minute you begin to learn something new”

[@martinhogg5337]

Happy birthday Scott , from Scotland! Love Essential Craftsman, keep up the good work!

[@MattsAwesomeStuff]

Nate - If you can't find the AvE video on the learning curve... I think it was among the 150 that he purged last year. IIRC it was his first fatbiking video where he talked about it, drawing on the parchment paper on the shop bench. He makes reference to it in a fatbiking video later, but the original is gone. C'est la vie.

[@MattsAwesomeStuff]

Indeed, it was called "Power of the learning curve" and it was this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJnYeaeijqZphJY

[@zekefrye706]

Yeah, I already knew all that ;) haha! Love you guys. Thank you for what you do!

[@kenstewart687]

I have noticed, over 73 years, that I credit my learning and wanting to learn to my parents, uncles, aunts and my teachers in grade school, high school and college. Not all of them but a very select few. Past President Dr. George W. Tomanek of Fort Hays Kansas State University in Range management said, “I hope to teach you one thing in our short time together in this class, it is to learn how to read and teach yourself from here on out after graduating”.

[@jonathancatron9377]

Man Scott, that’s some deep stuff....but I would argue totally accurate. Keep making these vids! Would love to meet you one day!

[@waca93films]

That last lil bit that was cut out I bet was an amazing learning experience

[@dannywilsher4165]

I have always described my mind as an information sponge!!! To this day I love to learn as much as possible about nearly any subject.

[@psidvicious]

-I’ve always thought there were 2 types of learners. There’s that person that just seems to ‘get it’ right away, and doesn’t require a whole lot of the instructors time (the fast learner). And the other type, that would be, the good learner. Someone that may require a little more initial investment, but once they get it, they really get it and ultimately become one of your best ‘ball carriers’. -It wasn’t until I was out of high school and well into the work place, before I think I finally understood the importance of learning algebra. I can honestly say, I’ve never come across an algebra problem in my adult life. But I think the takeaway, for me was, the thought process. Learning to solve something by breaking it down into smaller bits, following a procedure and going at something, one step at a time, to achieve a solution. Valuable learn indeed. -I guess I’m going to have to give the ‘AvE Channel’ another chance. But I have to say, every time I watch one of his videos, I’m reminded of how my grandfather used to describe Howard Cosell’s ramblings on MNF as ‘diarrhea of the mouth’! BUT, everyone deserves a second chance, right?

[@dannywilsher4165]

That's funny that you would say the "diarrea of the mouth" phrase... I used to use that all the time when I was young. Mostly describing politicians... lol...

[@psidvicious]

@@dannywilsher4165 Yes, very common for politicians to earn that badge. Maybe AvE should go into politics?

[@elcam84]

I try to learn more and more and I research the crap out of whatever I need to know. Constantly adding to my list of things I know how to do and improving them. My frustration is that there isn't enough time or tools/materials to get as good as I would like to be at them. The better 3/4s dad was one of those that didn't learn anything he didn't need to know and did not want to learn anything new. He never did like me mainly because I knew so much about so many things that he didn't and he assumed that his greater age alone meant he should know and be able to do so much more than I can. What's funny is that a friend of mines grandfather would ask me when he didn't know something. I remember one day him saying Hey rob your'e a smart guy do you know why the machine shop in town has had fires in their piles of chips. ( they had fine aluminum dust and iron oxide which was a bad combination coupled with oil) I will never stop trying to learn and get better at all the hobbies and skills I do and if I don't know something I will do the research find out because I want to know the right or best way to do whatever. I don't know it all but I will try my best to know as much as I can.

[@kevinharding2099]

Yes, it is vital to keep learning, but just as fulfilling is to take that knowledge and skills and teach someone what you know. You never really know something until you can teach it. If you can explain a task, a concept, an idea; then you have mastered it.

[@kenjohnson4461]

OUTSTANDING sage advice from a sage

[@michaeldougfir9807]

Part of the atmosphere in my house as I grew up was a real appreciation for learned people. If you had a broad general knowledge of many worthwhile things, you had my parents' respect. And they would tell us kids about the value of that knowledge. I have tried to emulate that as a Scoutmaster and in other leadership positions.

[@PaulChandler1951]

I enjoy being a ‘Jack of all trades’. I have sought out learning in my life and enjoy being mostly better than average in a wide variety of skills but not good enough to really stand out as an expert. In a former job, we took part in some wind surfing which I had some limited experience in. A younger guy said to me, “ Is there NOTHING you can’t do?” Great compliment 😀

[@davecarroll5989]

My want to learn had me find you guys lifes good o by the way I am almost 67 and try to learn every day keep up the good stuff professors

[@MsElijah16]

Thanks, These are my thoughts while listening, The only place where learning comes before earning is in the dictionary Progress = Happiness The secret to living is giving Best way to lead is lead by example I've been lucky to have an old man that has spent a lot of time and money on learning

[@jollyjiggler]

Ive been curious about something and since you are talking about learning i guess its as good a time as any to ask. In an older video you have a large upsetting block and said its a saw anvil for hammering in tension( if i remember right). Could you maybe explain that some time

[@James.......]

Enjoyable podcast! I'm in the Cy Swan fan club too - I ordered a knife from him 4 or 5 weeks ago and I can't wait to get it!

[@jum5238]

Some difference between electricity and electronics. Good hobby to learn! And you can repair a lot (or at least troubleshoot). So much of the world is integrated circuits and disposable, but you can fix problems on cars, and pick up some great troubleshooting skills which are invaluable these days!

[@stpittard]

Scott, you sparked a question in my mind. (Other than Cy) which KZbin personalities would you commend that you have considered comparable to your skills?

[@niloccoady]

More gold, thanks to you both. Much appreciated

[@garrett6371]

I really enjoy these, thank you both.

[@horneygeorgeforge7079]

A person who knows everything, can learn little, but a person with an open mind will learn much! and enjoy learning because there is far more to learn...

[@bricyclezenrun1044]

Yes, thanks! You guys are inspiringly wise. B.

[@2chipped]

Love this "real talk" series!

[@ricardomagnificent]

Try becoming a Deputy Sheriff at age 43 after 25 years as an Electrician. Went through the Police Academy while maintaining my Georgia Electrical Contractor's License. Then after three years go back to Electrical work in an Industrial Maintenance Capacity. The National Electric Code changes every three years, and the the technology changes even faster. The Variable Speed Drives and Programmable Controllers used in 2002 didn't exist when I went through the Apprenticeship Program. In 2012 I was preparing for and taking Electrical License exams in Oregon, California, Iowa, and Montana as I was preparing to leave the Industrial Maintenance job and go back into the construction side of the industry. Whole sections of N.E.C. had been added. When I left Georgia to look for work I was loaded for bear. Then I had to take Continuing Ed classes to maintain the Licenses. When I got within a year of retirement I quit doing the continuing ed and dropped all my licenses. Now I'm learning Carpentry so I can build a new workshop and rebuild my deck. Thanks for the education.

[@bikeyo]

I think you guys should integrate these into the main channel. KZbin doesn't suggest EC2 as much as it suggests EC to me, so I bet you'd get more views. Happy Birthday Scott!

[@allenb8066]

What is AvE? One of the teachers in my life warned me about acronyms or abbreviations in a presentation. Often other interested listeners have no idea what you are referring to. Most often backgrounds and daily experience inhibit their understanding of the details you are presenting. I am hoping somethings I have learned will help you be even more effective in your much appreciated podcasting. I am happy to be learning by listening and watching your channels. My comments are only intended to be helpful and keep up the good work. Ok I found it what a character 😏 reminds me a little of my navy time old salt.

[@jeffjohansen3458]

Happy Birthday, Scott!!!!

[@DocRorshack]

Happy Birthday! Please, keep up the good work!