LEARNING FROM MY MISTAKES !! LITTLE CHANGES MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE

[@tadhgpheaitwillie]

What a great farmer. Positive, progressive, intelligent. you are a credit and an ambassador to the industry. Well done.

[@mikeysky8917]

Saw a vet program in England and the vet injected all the calves in the hip and waited till they all lay down on the straw and went to sleep. Then he jagged them and dehorned them with the gas like yours. Calves woke up like nothing had happened. Best stress free dehorning I ever saw.

[@blessedbyond]

Thank you so much for actually showing the disbudding I’ve learned a lot from your videos. Unfortunately I can only give the video 1 thumbs up.

[@agoodbluewilldo8359]

Great to see jobs done properly!! Great shine of them calves

[@niallmcmeel3563]

Great video Adrian. I think I noticed you remove the bud completely when disbudding? I stopped doing that years ago after I tested it on a few the previous year. Far better job, the calf has less healing to do and I've never had a problem with the horns growing. I use the same gas dehorned as yours.

[@liamtoplis7136]

It's good to see little farm still working.no 1 needs to milk 300 cows keep up the good work

[@pythagoras2647]

Nice to see, although not too long ago this would have been a big farm! There was a good story about a 'young fella' with a similar setup on ear to the ground, last year. He had started off working on farms and saved up to start buying his own stock. Of course he inherited the farm originally. Calf at foot and selling direct would be better than going big, imho.

[@dronedairys7461]

That’s a very true comment. People think herd size is a competition. If every farmer had 60/70 cows everyone would have an income to survive and an off farm life as well. And the environment would be better off too. Every farmer keep a simple one labour unit enterprise and do it right and properly and make an income and have a life too.

[@merkyw4187]

Never been on a farm EVER and never knew it was sooo hard work for farmers but enjoying watching AND learning :) what goes on down the country :)

[@shirleysousa9739]

I love your honesty if you don’t know the answer you say so and you tell us straight on how things work. Way to go

[@plantpot9127]

Hi Adrian, love the videos only just discovered. Just a tip when feeding calves milk - it’s better to feed them with the higher teat feeders, it’s a more natural position which closed the oesophageal grove, sending milk down into their abomasum. Bucket feeding could lead to it being directed into the underdeveloped rumen where it might undergo unwanted bacterial fermentation and lead to scouring of the calf. Love the channel keep up the good work :)

[@IFarmWeFarm]

Yes I need to raise that feeder, bad measuring on my part 🙈. But yes your 100% correct. Up it will go this week 👍

[@maryoriordan3618]

Love watching Adrian from a retired farmer but still v intrested

[@hal580]

Animal scientist and dairy farmer here: if you want some tips related to feeding calfs milk, then i would recomend not letting them drink out of the buckets, but insted get single versions of the "milk bar" you had with the older calfs. It gives them a more natural drinking position, and reduces the chance of milk ending up in the wrong stomack, thus redusing the chance of sick calfs and increasing milk uptake. love your videos, and keep up the good work

[@hal580]

i would also recomend having a small bowl/bucket of water available permanently for the smalest calfs

[@warivlog3237]

You're doing a great job Adrian and you've made your farm even cooler, I hope so much to have one I love this job

[@keithturney3667]

Another brilliant video Adrian , so enjoyable to watch and learn.

[@spideybrent]

Hello from Canada you guys have great videos thanks

[@henrydowney1174]

Every day's a school day Adrian - thanks for another informative video

[@shaneprior]

Great video Adrian, always loved when the calves would stick their heads into the bucket up to there eyes, keep at her Lad!

[@shirleysousa9739]

I love watching you work with the cows and calves.

[@stephenhill8364]

great video your calves look really well and very friendly.from Yorkshire take care and look forward to your next video.

[@peterblessing4531]

Great video as always. Calf jackets have been the best investment on our suckler farm in recent years. Cut down massively on scours, pneumonia and calves are thriving way better. We have the kerbl ones which are the 2nd type you showed and couldn't fault them

[@markfenner7005]

I am so impressed with how you dehorned your calves. It showed me that the way we done it was so, so wrong. No kicking ,bucking or roaring and you done it on your own

[@lisarobinson9024]

I love seeing the calfs with their jackets on. Love ur video's, keep em comming. Love southern ireland too, been 3 times and ur accent is ace. Im a yorkshire lass. X

[@rickywest57]

Great video . Showing the true aspects of farming . Great yield coming off the cows in the parlour. People out there that I’ve got Karcher power washers you can buy the snow foam attachment on Amazon or from Halfords or any retailer. For around £20

[@thetessellater9163]

Don;t buy it from Amazon, they don't pay any taxes here - best get it from a geniune UK based company rather than one that just rips us all off like Amazon.

[@barrytipton1179]

I bought mine from local company never used it lol …… my power washer is a nilfisk best domestic one on market in my opinion not the cheap plastic pump one

[@ronpeers1363]

I have just seen birds you have killed and hung up .. Can nothing be allowed to get in the way of intensive farming... Did you kill the birds Adrian.. We are disgusted.. We had a farmer near us kill every living creature in local lake with his over used slurry watching fish suffocating was heart braking but farmer never got brought to book... Poor farmers spending money like there's no tomorrow.. There's a great saying you will never see a farmer on a bike..??. We've unsubscribed....

[@joeclancy868]

you should get a old conveyor belt and cut it for the bottom of your calf house door . great video thanks

[@tonykeane6130]

Great video again Adrian👍.. Their is a reason you have over 56k subscribers in a very short time frame.... Real world issues and tasks... You are a true ambassador for the agri/rural community...

[@IFarmWeFarm]

I appreciate your kind comment Tony 👍

[@banjoboy8802]

Morning Adrian. Informative video today lot's of tips for the young farmers. I have one small tip for you. The calf crush. dragging it across the concrete floor is wearing off the protective galvanised coating leaving the steel open to rust. Why not weld a couple of small wheels to the front of the box. save on wear and tear. reduce noise, more manoeuvrable and help keep your pocket full of loose change.

[@IFarmWeFarm]

It’s on my list, have a couple of bike stabiliser wheels will work perfectly 👍 good tip

[@ciaranomalley9274]

Great idea a lot easier on the back as well add two handles that can fold or slide flush with the body of the calf crate you can push it around like a wheelbarrow

[@Mr11090]

We use the same gas dehorner here and fill the bud area with sudocream . Great job. Great video again.

[@michealwhite8776]

Great video Adrian, especially the we tip on de-horning the calves, hated the poor wee things roaring when this was done.. PS: I'll sleep easy now... knowing the power washer make....😂👍🚜

[@padraiggeaney3167]

Brilliant video Adrian your Calves are flying it

[@Andrew-yz1lb]

great looking calves, we have one of thoses gas irons, much easier to use but they do go throught those little bottles quickly. for past few years we have also been giving the calves a jab of metacam to give some pain relief for a couple of days alongside the local anesthetic. i think vets are recommending this as best practice now.

[@IFarmWeFarm]

Yes Metacam is a great job afterwards. Yes i was wondering myself how long them gas cylinders will last, but it’s very handy in fairness 👍

[@joe8500-t9x]

@@IFarmWeFarm I’ve got 20 calves done with one wee cylinder

[@christymarlow9539]

Great video I found that calves does better on suckers

[@tangofoxtrot4603]

I put Sudocreme into the holes then spray, Helps them heal quicker and keeps the flies out also.

[@IFarmWeFarm]

With a new baby in our house there definitely no shortage of Sudocreme about here 🤣. Yes it would work well 👍

[@jrw5831]

You are one hell of a worker. Need I say more?

[@philipkimber6302]

i used to love that job - smells of bacon and eggs when the buds are 'cooked'. So much easier with that tools than our old cable thing. Miss those jobs and the calves. Can imagine my Dad's view on covers for them!! BTW: why not put some flexible rubber on the bottom of that gate. solve the issue of the gap and clean when you open the gate!

[@wilkefarms6784]

We use a propane powered dehorning iron on all of our calves the last 8 years, we had an electric unit but the element went out so we decided to use a rose bud off our torch to heat the end of the dehorner and it got to hot and we lost a calf cause it went to fast and couldn't stop it, great video

[@thomasloughlin7102]

Hi Adrian, Great video as always. Great to see a person dishorning an animal properly as I used to do myself when we had the sucklers and took great pride in doing it properly and as you say saves absolute torture down the road. The amount of beef weanlings coming on the market nowadays that are poorly dishorned or maybe not at all is unreal. I personally will not buy them if I see them with bits of horns but of course you will always have one as I do at the moment and the vet has to be got now to remove them (a whole handling 👹). I took your advice last year and bought myself a foaming gun and quick realise lance the lot, a truly brilliant job and thank you for the advice as always. 🐄👍

[@sandymcghee3328]

Great video as always Adrian the calves are looking great 👍 are going to do the funky farmer challenge with the milk 👍☝️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧

[@WhiteShouldersFarmstead]

Great video. I've never seen a burner like that, very interesting

[@dennismathieson1140]

Hi Adrian...Great vlog The calves and their jackets are looking so good . Good luck and hope the heifer calves are coming soon to keep the numbers up.. Some man on the de-horning .

[@IFarmWeFarm]

👍

[@garymadden2656]

Great video Adrian and your calf’s are in great shape 👌

[@caroledwards3465]

Thinking of you hope you are alright.

[@glencarter4697]

Takes me back when I use to help me dad de-horn and castrate lol. How about a strip of rubber across the bottom of your calves gate may help. Gr8 video yet again Adrian

[@pauldoc567]

Have the same washer Adrian, super job!

[@JonDingle]

When I get called in (not very often sadly) to feed the young stock I warm cool or cold milk with hot water in a bucket with milk in a separate container. When washing out a multi tub milk feeder or single milk feeders, I rinse with hot water, then slosh out with a hot water and dairy acid weak mixture and then rinse again with cold water. Over the top maybe, but it's the best guarantee I an give the calves of clean and safe milk. Dehorning/debudding, on the farms I worked on, all animals were anaesthetised first and then we had a propane gas torch piped to a large bottle. The smell wasn't too good.

[@b14clg]

Amazing to see how many young stock doing so well!

[@MultiTorres777]

Brilliant video not a farmer but found the video very educational 🥇

[@kevinryan3475]

Great video of the calves you do look after your live stock

[@Jp-eo7jl]

Well adrian we stopped scooping out the buds years ago changed from a electric to a gas one, more instant heat We started sharpening the tip /brass ring on the dehorner ..2 to 3 seconds burns in very easy

[@feirmfactor859]

Great factual farming video. Fair play!!

[@IFarmWeFarm]

Next week I guarantee someone will ask me about it again 🙈🤣

[@seanlenehan7574]

Class video again Adrian. Use a piece off con v belt .on calf shed door .jackets are a great job.we use rugs on foals. The different they make to foals the same as the calfs 🌟🌟👌

[@stewthorne]

we used old sacks stuffed with a bit of hay tied with old leather rains

[@paulfoster3400]

some great advice for calf rearing. i rear a few calves each year seriously thinking of them jackets for the harsh wicklow mountain weather

[@austinwilliamson3022]

Adrian I'm not a farmer but I worked on a farm from the age of ten and I remember getting a calf sucking on my fingers to get her to suck from the bucket it's a funny feeling but that why I love your videos

[@tazmeadows2925]

You made that debuding look easy

[@martincraig1974]

Love the way you look after your cattle Adrian 👍

[@Francisramil]

I feel your job is not just a job. It is your passion. I know it needs lots of workforce in the dairy farm. You all do the works there very nice. I enjoy the vids.

[@raymondconnolly1435]

Well done great video calves are doing well 👍🚜

[@claetuswoodroofe4164]

I worked with 2 men years ago using a electric dehorner when it went faulty the calves didn’t bawl but the guy holding the calf steady bawled cos he was getting shocked so gas from then on.Good traffic dirt detergents used neat will impress your wife if used on shower doors to remove dried in soap

[@bernardcasey1500]

Great video very interesting 👍

[@gerardmcnabb2532]

Good job Adrian, done early.

[@douwventer2310]

Paint your calf jacket straps with bitter aloe juice....or dip ends in diesel.... no chewing or sucking...

[@georgerome]

Just watching the first part of your video today has given me a huge amount of inspiration on feeding calves and how great yours look Adrian . Where I work in the mornings I feed cattle and feed calves once I finished the feeding up and that's one of my biggest downfalls just adding a dash of warm water to the milk and stirring it up . But I'm going to give your idea a try tomorrow morning when I'm back to the graft . And also use the same debudder gun as yourself here had to send it back due to a fault but the 2nd one has been no problem atall . Keep up the great work and have a great week ahead 😃👍

[@s71rl2]

I never even knew dairy cows had horns - this is why I stay up till early hours and am shattered when I go to work the next day! My family and I as far back as I know have nothing to do with farming or even country life, and to see the work involved, the compassion and hard graft makes me wonder if farming shouldn't have some kind of national service for 12-16 year olds to spend a week working a farm.

[@louispower2853]

Great video Adrian love all the information and tips you give out in these types of videos!

[@davidlittle256]

Do you use your power washer for washing out the sheds or do you have a tractor one?

[@unaoconnor3628]

You're a mighty man answering all these questions. Between milkings! On a Sunday! 💪

[@PhilipjPatterson]

A happy calf a profitable calf and the coats good job we use the middle coat you have with the red trim

[@vanrajlakadiya8816]

Nice work bro I LIVE IN WATCH the video in india

[@wildcat22]

I start them on the bottle with the scree in peach teat for 4 feeds, the the single bucket with screw in peach teat, after they take to the bucket they go into the group's(6 or 7 days old). Doesn't matter what type of bucket I get I will cut out the teat that come in it and put in the pull through peach teat. The first 4 feeds come straight from the cow unless she's down and calf can't take a suck. We used to warm the milk with water also, never liked doing it and was going to get a warmer later this year, but for now we just take the milk straight from the spout to the buckets, can see the difference already between this year's calves and previous years. Also this happens to be the first year to have no scour issues.

[@RealLimerickman]

My "retired" uncle just told me he had a mad amount of bull calves as well. He has never seen so many bull calves compared to heifer calves.

[@jamesjohnston1007]

Great video Adrian well run outfit 👌

[@gerardfarrell3135]

Lovely clean stock Adrian. Not a nice job to have to do, but a necessary one for farmer safety and indeed for animal safety down the line too. I remember many a close shave years ago with animals in the crush that hadnt been de-horned. Great comfort now buying stock with the new regulations. The man who buys your calfs has great comfort with nice quite animals too. You can see the animal isnt under feirce stress either and ample time was given for anesthetic to kick in. Another great video again 👍

[@pythagoras2647]

Deleted files can be recovered (only the filename gets deleted until the disk space is overwritten). A good (and free) program is PhotoRec, from GCsecurity. Also backups are a good idea! Probably easiest now on the cloud. It's still possible to DIY backup too. Lot's of good information online. Most people don't backup as it takes effort and knowledge. KZbin delete comments with links so search for: 'What’s the Best Way to Use the Cloud to Store Personal Data? Schneier on Security'

[@johnscully1836]

Two wheels and handles on calf crate would be handy and save your back, a little job for ya some time, calves look smashing, great vid...

[@IFarmWeFarm]

It’s actually fairly light, but I will do something with it 👍

[@georgiaannbicknell6129]

Speaking cow: "gwan, gwan, gwan!" Code for-Go on, go on, go on. Good morning, Adrian. I see it's raining your way. We are in our DRY season now in Central Florida. I cannot relate to the temperatures in Cavan. I am surprised that I am not seeing your breath in the barns. How warm is the calf barns? I see that you are wearing your jacket so I am guessing 60 degrees F or more. Thank you again for an excellent video. Well done!

[@IFarmWeFarm]

About 9 degrees that day Georgia, north wind left it feeling a lot colder though 👍

[@farm_planets]

Спасибо❤

[@jasondavies4887]

I really like my Express gas de-horner

[@roryredmond7378]

Hi Adrian, done it once you never forget the smell

[@IFarmWeFarm]

Nothing like it on a Saturday night b4 going to the pub 😁

[@masseydriverb3582]

The gas dehorner is a good job once you keep it serviced you will have no problems

[@davidyoung4830]

Hi Adrian, again another great video. Just to add with your new gas dehorner , advice would be leave possibly in warmish room temperature room, don't leave outside in outside temperature environment. In cold conditions gas ignition can be troublesome and users ware down the start switch and damage them. Also unscrew when not in use gas canister and just swap around in the holding cylinder and you room for another gas canister in your holding box

[@IFarmWeFarm]

I agree, same problem I had with my gas torch. So I keep the gas items in a warmer shed at my house. Good point for sure

[@549901able]

Great video again Adrian. I was just wondering do your cows ever get sore feet?

[@ciaranomalley9274]

Good video on the jobs that have to be done 👍 I would have put a bit of rubber on the end of the calf house door - cleaner and more draught proof I think - but thats just me

[@briancronin8476]

The gas dehorner are a great job, no cable and completely safe, ul never go back to electric.. 👍

[@stubuddle5561]

Great video as normal.

[@benoconnell2022]

Hey Adrian, why don’t you put the calves straight onto teat feeders rather than buckets?

[@denisreidy8106]

the compartment teat feeder is best young calves drink at diff. paces, my only issue is that after weaning the calves they cross suck more from teat feeder rearing than buckets

[@IFarmWeFarm]

I used to have awhful bother when they were on teat buckets early on, scours mostly. Put it down to bacteria in the teat itself. That’s a long time ago, never had an issue with bucket fed calves an easier to wash out the buckets.The guy that buys my bull calves nearly wouldn’t take them unless they were on the buckets also. I might go back to the teat next year just to see the comparison 👍

[@benoconnell2022]

@@IFarmWeFarm Have you ever tried Milkbar feeders, my father introduced them into Ireland from New Zealand in the 90s. If you go back try the Milkbar feeder. Thanks 👍🐄

[@cdemo1186]

Another great informative video Adrian,yoy always give your opinion and advice,that fantastic Adrian. When it comes to de-horning,I think everyone has their preferred method. My washer is a 5h.p Honda and it's a great wee machine, does everything I ask of it. 👍

[@hellohello3199]

How’s the O light, Worth the hype?

[@cdemo1186]

@@hellohello3199 I'll be straight up honest, for something so small, it's absolutely fantastic. They really do produce a fantastic product. I'm so delighted to be lucky enough to have won it. I highly recommend it 👌🏼

[@FIAT-TURBONewHolland]

15 to 20 calves with a gas cylinder there mad handy we have Angus bull suckled heard no bother Horning any more 👍 good see job done right and teach less experienced and a daunting job for some men keep up usual TOP CLASS CONTENT 👏

[@IFarmWeFarm]

Cheers lad

[@dronedairys7461]

Hi Adrian. Great video as always. I am actually using milk replacer this year for the first year ever. I always used whole milk but this year the price of milk been so good it actually works less expensive to buy the milk replacer. How long do you keep the jacket of the calf for ? And anyone who wants a snow foam gun, my brother in law has a small engine repair shop in Cootehill and he stocks the snow foam guns along with all power washing equipment. I do buy my foam online with reflect auto care. Great foam for shining tractors and machinery.

[@IFarmWeFarm]

Didn’t know that was your brother, he does take an odd look at me when i’m in GT tyres 🤣. On the jackets, it all depends on the time of year and the weather too. I left last years January calves in them for 5-6 weeks. Never seen calves to thrived like it. There’s a video somewhere of me taking them off. Yes great to see the milk prices where they are, it will be all needed after the fert bill comes in 🙈

[@dronedairys7461]

@@IFarmWeFarm brother in law. Jason is his name, yea he said he seen you at the tire place. Next time you’re there give him a shout. Yea the fertiliser bill will be big but we won’t grow the grass without it. At least the good milk price will cancel some of the pain 😂

[@donalhickey8506]

Buy a milk heater adrian you can control the temperature and heat a lot of milk at once that way you are doing it looks messy and after all you are wasting hot water that you had to heat in the first place

[@IFarmWeFarm]

If I had a bigger number of calves maybe it would suit. I always have a supply of hot water for the bulk tank and milking machine washing. Never rule one out though in the future 👍

[@MrJTJINX]

always good to de-horn earlier than later. as soon as they get big, butch with attitude youve had it.

[@IFarmWeFarm]

Early for sure, much easier done

[@Open2OpenUT]

Great video as always, I really really enjoyed it 👌. Do you ever leave any Calves with their mothers or is that just never done on a Dairy Farm? The de-budding was amazing and showed there was definitely no pain or stress to the youngsters at all. You are very kind to your animals and it does you great credit indeed. Looking forward to your next show 👌☘️☘️🇮🇪

[@IFarmWeFarm]

It varies on when there born, but as soon as the cow enters the parlour for the first time the calf normally gets housed as that cow with enter the herd. Cheers mate 👍

[@irishro1]

Great vid as always. Calves lookin well. Jackets definitely a good job. On the power washer, where did you get that make of washer from? I use a foam now called Kenotec. Got it from the Dandys of Derrynoose. Spray on, leave it for 5mins, power hose off. Tested on some very dirty stuff. Great job. No need to brush. Awful impressed. Thanks Adrian.

[@IFarmWeFarm]

I bought that washer in Monaghan hire in Castleblaney. I heard good things about that Kenotec, must give it ago and see what it’s like 👍

[@irishro1]

@@IFarmWeFarm 👌🏻

[@paulmaguire8441]

Hi adrian just a different question do you know what speed your smaller massey does on the road in kms?

[@DannyRice01]

Adrian trust me, if you used hornex paste to dehorn you would never ever go back to the gas iron! So simple and easy and less stressful on the calf regardless of how well you would numb a calf normally!

[@IFarmWeFarm]

I might give it a go on the next ones just to see how it goes 👍

[@DannyRice01]

@@IFarmWeFarm Very good! We trim the hair, put on the paste using a lollipop stick and then put a ring of vaseline around the paste so it cant run anywhere and hurt the calf. Just make sure other calf's can't lick at it or you'll be in bother!!

[@patmcnamara1062]

Great stuff as ever

[@SuperMassey565]

Howya Adrian just wondering how do clean or wash the calf jackets?

[@IFarmWeFarm]

I just soak them in a bucket of water for a few hours and then rinse them down, some people get an old washing machine for it.

[@drdulas5055]

Where were you 50 some years ago? I wish I would have thought of the calf squeeze. Did you make it Adrain? The the gas dehorner works great and NOOOO cord to wrestle with.

[@IFarmWeFarm]

No I bought that thing in an auction a few years back, think it was around €50. Very basic compared to the newer ones but it does my job. Very very handy thing to have in fairness 👍

[@gerardmcnamara9997]

Super video Adrian iv always wondered about foam gun thanks for enlightenment, just wondering did u ever think of just burning a ring on horn and leaving bud in, it works well too, am just curious not giving orders by no means. Gerry.

[@IFarmWeFarm]

I honestly never knew leaving the bud in would work, a few people said the same. Every days a learning day. Thanks Gerard 👍

[@noramaloney839]

What time are you putting your new video up

[@B4rberblacksheep]

I'm not sure if you touched on it but why do you use a bucket with the very young calves rather than a feeder like the larger calves have? Love the vids!

[@IFarmWeFarm]

I just find it better on the younger calves, we have zero scours for the past 20 years as I can clean the open buckets easier. That just my experience 🤷🏻‍♂️ as i’ve had the teat buckets.

[@randybutler4772]

Adrian thanks for mentioning the importance of dehorning. So important for personal and family safety! Are there no polled Holsteins ?? If you milked your F1 Angus Holstein crosses, how much would your individual milk production drop per cow unit? If there are no polled black and white Holsteins, are there any polled RED and white Holsteins? Thank you for sharing.🐄🐄🐂🐄

[@IFarmWeFarm]

No we never keep any Angus crosses, but I would expect a fair drop in milk production if we did, we’re looking at Norwegian Reds for this year to mix things up a little. Thanks Randy 👍

[@damienbrannigan6703]

Hi adrian, just curious wen you got the pressure washer you changed the lance, did it make much of a difference?

[@IFarmWeFarm]

No not really, but it has a better reach when going under wheel arches. It’s lighter too. The one that comes with it is a very good Lance but I couldn’t fit the foam bottle to it really without it been very awkward.

[@earlepriest2544]

Does every calf have a jkt or is just the heifers. Never used them. I notice you do block calving and autumn/winter time would you use the jkt in the spring summer time ??

[@IFarmWeFarm]

Just the heifers Earle, bulls get sold at about 15 days. With the length of time it really depends on the time of year and the temperature, last years January calves had them on for 5-6 weeks. They thrived

[@earlepriest2544]

@@IFarmWeFarm thank you, when I used to work on the farm we never had jkts if one was not doing well we would tie a hessian sack on with baler twine then we would take the bulls to our other farm and finish them off as Barley beef. The cross bred heifers were finished on silage and some barley. It’s really great to watch you as it reminds me so much of the place I worked over here in Hertfordshire only difference is we had 250-300 milking cows and probably about 200 + beef and a contracting business good days hard work but good life.