Learning Marvel vs. Capcom 2 in the Year 2024

[@pockystyx4087]

I did find if funny they complained about him picking the 'Justin Team'; when nowadays, Justin can just lock in and win with the whole roster lol

[@josephbrooks4393]

Lowkey no one wants to see msp or any top tiers in mvc2

[@Jin-lp5lt]

​@@josephbrooks4393people who bitch about seeing top tiers in competitive games are the lamest

[@josephbrooks4393]

@@Jin-lp5lt it’s mvc2 specifically, your telling me your fine watching msp and teams like that rather than a good jill or a good silver Sam?? I

[@leithaziz2716]

@@Jin-lp5lt Maybe, but when you only see less than 10 characters in +50 as a routine, it feels underwhelming. Naturally, pick who you like. I just blame the balancing of the game, but this is also a very old game so its not unexpected.

[@FKATorp]

He got to the top of the PS5 leaderboard playing Colossus/Hulk/Juggernaut. He's on a higher plane of existence man.

[@waffles_ns]

FOR THE NEW, INTERESTED, AND/OR CURIOUS! myself and a (admittedly small) number of other players are working on updating the SuperCombo wiki for this game! there's a MEGA LOT of work to do (and the people before us from the ps3/360 / arcade/dreamcast days saw that and understandably didnt do much of it) but its at least in a state where there are several general game resources to help people get started! some character pages are pretty detailed, but others are still mostly untouched from a decade ago. its a VERY slow (but active!) work in progress!

[@labomba8575]

Best of luck.

[@spoon8165]

You’re the goat

[@leithaziz2716]

Good Luck Everyone. I always admire the FGCs dedication to what they love.

[@MacAves]

I'm part of this effort! It's a lot of work, but the more hands we have the better we can make it!

[@no_nameyouknow]

Hey man that's great work I'm learning this game again, or trying to, and that wiki is still helpful even if it's missing a lot.

[@Kyo_theTowaSimp]

Bro, that's the first time I've ever seen a *DRAW GAME* in MvC2 *EVER.* HO-LY. 😱😱😱

[@boingledink4332]

I AM A MEMBER OF STARS

[@gwen9939]

Jill: I AM A ME- 18:50 sentinel: R O C K E T P U N C H

[@teehee42069]

:)

[@Call555JackChop]

That’s my favorite quote by Storm in X-Men “do you know what happens when a toad gets struck by lightning? HO HO HO HO!”

[@Micha-Hil]

Never got into Marvel 3, but playing Marvel 2 for a second and I just love it. Magneto, Iron Man, Cyclops. Hell yeah.

[@AirLancer]

They're very different games.

[@justinhernandezfalcon2239]

Im a member of the S.T.A.R.S

[@swift_sam]

The sheer cacophony of MVC2 constantly rolling back is incredible to behold.

[@ott0ma71c]

Huh. I've never seen a draw game in MVC2 ever. I feel like i just saw Bigfoot.

[@no_nameyouknow]

That's just like any other game draws are not very likely but they can happen if the timer runs out.

[@sensha563]

i had two of them in my first session, felt like i had seen a miracle

[@polillatheband]

"I feel playing magneto like cheating"...picks storm

[@emikox]

picks Sentinel too

[@watchmesquatch]

​@@emikox and cyclops. My grandma could win consistently with that team.

[@SupermanSajam]

Not in terms of power, but because he’s so fast on rollback lmao. Chipp and Milia were like this in GGXX

[@callie_yt]

@@SupermanSajamyeah magneto literally moves so fast the rollback can’t keep up lmaoooo

[@Bageer1]

The first minute where he explains the *online* experience of Magneto is connected to, and informs, the second minute where he chooses a team

[@mikeestill1672]

I'm 41 and this is the game I grew up playing on arcade and Dreamcast. It's funny to see how modern games have tried to replicate this type of madness while trying NOT to make it hella cheap and chaotic. If it's not like this, then what are they even doing???? That cheapness is the charm!!!!!

[@dcagepcutta6488]

I’ve been looking for this comment. I’m 41. I play fighting games but did not play mvc2 back when n the day. Do you think it’s fun for totally brand new players?

[@mikeestill1672]

@@dcagepcutta6488 I think it's fun for a certain type of fighting game player, but noooooo lol. Definitely not for most people these days. Balance is always emphasized for the new generation. If it ain't balanced, they ain't f***ing with it lol

[@DoctorSoctopus]

@@mikeestill1672I’m 28 and just started playing this year, stop being patronizing.

[@mikeestill1672]

@@DoctorSoctopus lol. How you liking it so far???

[@User-pu3lc]

Someone get this man into 2XKO

[@Senketsujin]

The one cool note about Jin is that hes the only human sized character that has chip damage on his medium and heavy attacks.

[@Cookie-nh6dk]

“Magneto is cheating, I’m gonna play storm” went to one of the only characters if not the only character better than magneto 😭

[@R.A.M-c9d]

God Damn I didn´t expect to show up in a sajam video, thx for the matches, plenty fun. I´m commited to jill and tronn. It´s suffering but plenty fun.

[@notatrueroute]

wtf they made Sajam's stream music into an entire game?

[@myboy_]

God, sentinel is one of the most insane fighting game characters ever made

[@cleanslate5246]

Watching new people place this is so funny and hard to watch but I hope the new players take the time to get into it and don't get discouraged after playing a few sessions online.

[@Hobbitfeetpics]

They will get discouraged, and unfortunately, without crossplay this game will be mostly dead in a few months, aside from all the veterans who will likely migrate back to fightcade when the novelty of the collection wears off.

[@eduardoserpa1682]

Cool to see you landed on my favorite shell in Storm/Cyclops. I have never played a lot of MvC2, but I like them with Cable or with a fun low tier to mix things up.

[@GSen45]

someone needs to draw sajam as cyclops

[@jessepeterson6694]

Should be interesting if you decide to host this at your next Sajam Slam.

[@StanNotSoSaint]

Yipes for a team trainer?

[@rangerred9022]

I would love to see a MVC 2 slam

[@bw4708]

As an SF6/Strive era fighting game convert, I did not fully understand how different the genre was back in the day until I played this 😂 the first time my character went off-screen because the other dude was flying around it was like I was an infant child again

[@Jin-lp5lt]

It's not "the genre". There were plenty of more grounded games back then. This is just how "hyper" fighting games are

[@AlriikRidesAgain]

It's just so fun to mess around. There's nothing like hitting a fool with Commando Assist.

[@cheapturbo6439]

30:28 watching Sajam be horrified by Yipes vs. Jwong gameplay is amazing

[@GarudaPanzer]

Late to the vid, but I love how you figured out Cyclops best whiff button for building meter and said you figured him out, because yeah. Just need to learn his infinite now. Need to lab this game again, I've forgotten how to play, but it's so much fun having booted up again.

[@arcticbulktoaster348]

Shit brings me back to the arcade days playing a racing or any other game and that mvc2 cab be making storm jhp noises for HOURS making everyone’s head turn like wtf is that

[@DaviddeBergerac]

This game is so fucking weird and goofy I love it. Everyone talks about the high tiers but in casual matches just using who you like is a ton of fun.

[@Llnstead]

Watching Jwong play Marvel 2 is a marvel. It feels so much crazier than him playing any other game.

[@subvertedhope]

Dude won Evo 7 times.

[@tylermorrison6335]

LIGHT PUNCH

[@shiningaster3871]

MEDIUM PUNCH

[@GarethXL]

LIGHT KICK

[@emikox]

HEAVY PUNCH

[@MrWeird15]

HOLD DIAGONAL IN WHATEVER DIRECTION YOURE FUCKING GOING

[@am_frog]

Can't wait for the mvc2 Slam

[@grain_death]

seeing sentinel in this game really makes it way easier to understand why painwheel sucks in skullgirls

[@rezzthecontroller790]

Homies and I are learning this game with the ratio system and never looking back. Zangief, Blackheart, and Thanos on my team. XD

[@ghetoyoda]

I just did the thing and it feels so good - Sajam perfectly stating why we all play fighting games

[@rangerred9022]

MVC2 Sajam Slam when? 👀👀👀

[@MiracleMadao]

Getting a draw in this game is pretty uncommon. That match ending was great

[@skipatrolslayer]

I can't wait to see all the Will It Kill? submissions for this game lol.

[@666slateran666]

Learning mahvel is super fun, but its definitely a tight ass game in terms of execution

[@Luffy2008]

Honestly I bought theses games and I was like... how do I even combo in this game? I tought it was like an anime game with gatling but it is not... I looked the recent justin guide but it felt like it was too advanced for me, didnt really give me much insight how to begin playing the game. Only some smaller channels were explaning about the magic sequence, I found later an Jmcrofts video that had some beginners tips, but I have to say... this game is quite an undertaking and I feel like there is not enough beginner friendly content...

[@Anau_jiram97]

This was me all last night.

[@CrossfacePanda]

I mean, it does have ”Gatling”, because Gatling is just the GG term for chain combos, and old Marvel games have chain combos. It even has its own in-game term for it: ”Magic Series”, but it’s still the same thing. Old Marvel games just don’t have built in long juggle systems; it’s not what they were designed for. They are designed to have blazing fast neutral (especially MvC 1 & 2), but not superlong combos. You can still finagle out long combos with some characters (and in XvsSF with all characters lol)m but it’s not the norm, and not the focus like it is in modern fighting games.

[@Jin-lp5lt]

It IS like an anime game with gatling. The "magic series" invented gatling. Don't know why you're under the impression that it isn't.

[@ArcChristelle]

​@@Jin-lp5ltI personally never called Marvel an anime fighting game because the pushback and hit stun are the same as most classic Capcom titles like Street Fighter and Darkstalkers. Back in the day we considered anime/doujin fighters games that usually had a more simplistic approach to physics and nearly super mashy buttons/chains. But chain combos themselves weren't exclusive to anime/doujin fighters. MVC1 and 2 were closer to Capcom and SNK design than Guilty Gear or stuff like Melty Blood.

[@TheA732]

Watch max new video he gives a much broader perspective for beginners, the game has combos but it isn’t ABOUT combos if that makes sense

[@kayame18]

10:19 chanelling the Wong Factor

[@Capture2049]

As a punish, you can just launch and do an air combo with sentinel. Or you can use Cyclops, assist and then jump up and do an air combo. Pretty much same of storm

[@theoutlawking9123]

Cyclops is STILL THE GOAT, along with Cable and Gambit!

[@mikeyRoxx981]

Lol I played Gambit point then cable and Cyclops for a bit but my cable sucked. Dropped him for Sentinel

[@Magnolia-ro2xv]

We need a Sajam Slam with this game

[@jamesk2325]

the only thing I need to know about marvel 2 is how to do an infinite with iron man, and the community was kind enough to provide

[@Budzabit]

"Feels like playing Magneto is cheating. Imma pick storm" lmao

[@Turnabout]

75% of your losses are due to your block game. You've got some solid combos and a great grounding... so much of MvC2 in particular is learning the flow of when to attack, when to block, when to spam assists, when to punish. It just takes practice and many, many losses. Don't be discouraged. You're already doing way, way, way better than most new players to MvC2.

[@disonalvan]

3xko looks fun

[@Mario_bland]

Sajam doing the jwong team!?

[@coffefighterz9641]

Played a team of Guile/Gambit/Cyclops and got destroyed online. Said Screw it and Play Amingo/Silver Samurai/Cyclops and thought i was getting good until a Sentinel/Iron man fought me. I got omega destroyed but i won 2 games realizing my opponents assist call patterns and using amingo and S.Samurai DHC supers, game is fun just have to get used to it

[@johndewberryiii9925]

Good luck going leverless with this game i can’t imagine

[@AlexMax2742]

Marvel 2 is probably the most fun you can have in training mode of any fighting game.

[@watchmesquatch]

DBFZ and Mavel 3 clear.

[@EldritchMephi]

Its possible to have fun in training mode?

[@watchmesquatch]

@@EldritchMephi sure. If you wanna get good at combos then you'll learn to have fun in training mode.

[@SoFishtry]

that game at 11 minutes was insane LMAO

[@onthedre]

This game seems like hell. Way too fast and chaotic.

[@843Chadwick]

7:11 WOULD HAVE THROWN MY CONTROLLER ACROSS THE STREET IF I WAS THAT TRON PLAYER🤣

[@blargh559]

nah sentinel is definitely low tier, i mean the walk speed speaks for itself /s

[@ProdigheePC]

Mvc2 Sajam Slam?

[@Dark-Law420]

"You can ask Justin to play a low tier team" For real. I hate that people EXPECT you to dabble in Low tiers instead of choosing whatever the fuck you want. LMAO

[@emmdeeDM]

"I think Sentinel might be good in this game" How do we tell him?

[@roadhoundd.]

Oh he knows

[@elise3852]

a DRAW?!

[@levithewizard]

Sentinel launcher into air combo is a good punish or Lk,mk,rocket punch, super

[@sbcarnage616]

my team was and always will be cable ironman and war machine . lol

[@lukewatson8621]

Are you using leverless in this video?

[@alkalinemk1588]

Dude you should play some KOF 15 Terry before he drops in SF6 !

[@victorchen547]

All I know is that Justin mashes a lot faster that SAjam

[@Cooldrew100]

Lmfao ive never seen a draw in this game, impressive

[@BreathOfTheWeath]

Guys i think Jill is a member of S.T.A.R.S.

[@SaiyanFantasyX]

Anyone having stuttering issues on steam? Game feels kinda sluggish randomly, both offline and online

[@alexc6741]

Wazzler gonna eat u yo

[@Ragness10]

Why did so many games I want to play have to come out around the same time?! I have to skip on MVC for a while 😭

[@User-pu3lc]

Do I smell a MVC2 slam on the horizon?

[@AmateurZombies]

Dude really likes to say this is an old game like it's new information.

[@XXSittinsidewaysxX]

You’re playing MSS 😁Not bad!

[@Ubebread1]

Never seen a draw game in my life

[@blooddumpster3427]

I sincerely hope that's not the crt filter that shipped w the game T.T

[@Tmathh]

how did u get to training mode what the heck

[@Adderflail]

Start button on game select screen

[@Tmathh]

@@Adderflail thank you

[@quisisreal]

What speed are you using?

[@ratfink2079]

Based

[@Capture2049]

Turbo is default.

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

Rocketpunch

[@marcusmeins1839]

ever heard of the Wazzler? XDDD

[@NickGuy0320]

I love seeing streamers new to mvc2 play real teams

[@josephbrooks4393]

You actually enjoy watching ssc?

[@bloodthirstydeitysht9244]

I’m 22 I was playing marvel 2 since 2021 on Dreamcast with all my local veterans and I’ve come very far to the point I’m having online sets with champions of our most recent majors, that being yall are not ready 😂 also Sajam I’m hunting for you online now , I gotta show ya the ropes

[@DarksideGmss0513]

Easy, just don't be fed to Justin Wong and you should be fine.

[@SaviorGabriel]

Never seen a draw game in MvC2 until today.

[@josephbrooks4393]

Was into it then pick ssc and my smile disappeared

[@watchmesquatch]

It's not fun to watch because you know zero skill is required.

[@mattiq2041]

top tiers here take way more skill than low tiers in this game. anyone who has actually played the game will agree with me

[@josephbrooks4393]

@@watchmesquatchna to effectively play mag you pretty much have to give your self arthritis

[@technorave555]

​@@watchmesquatchyou should go win a tournament to prove this statement

[@666slateran666]

This game makes me realize how boring marvel 3 is in comparison. One touch of death is not fun

[@createprince2093]

i much prefer 2 for the same reason, i think it’s cool things get reset to neutral more. though idk the actual stats when you factor in all the infinites actually lol

[@666slateran666]

@@createprince2093 the thing is, infinites in old marvel games are legit hard to do and take skill. Marvel 3 has baby mode TOD combos lol. It's also why I don't enjoy dnf duel despite being a huge DFO head.

[@watchmesquatch]

3 is much more fun in training mode.

[@IntertwiningRoses]

You pick 3 of the best 8 characters in the game and win after practicing ToD combos and infinites with the best assist choices. That's how you win, unfortunately. you can play the other 90% of characters, but they are legitimately trash and have 0 reason to really be picked unless you wanna give your opponent a handicap. Sad.

[@djgokou]

Boomer games take more skill. Facts.

[@TheDracopire]

Video games

[@arakune12]

Isnt it cheating and not allowed to use a dash macro in the collection?

[@Awaruko]

Come see my Hiryu/Sent/Doom

[@BEATSofDevil]

"it's just an old video game" lol has nothing to do with it being old, that's just netplay. there's no way to get around data needing to travel distance

[@magnetictempest145]

Magneto is NOT cheating.😂😂😂 Storm Sent Cyke is a top tier team. You can mash for more damage. 😎

[@Crystalclear3r]

goated

[@djgokou]

Ageist

[@TheHollowFace]

66 views, unc fell off fr 😅

[@Nephetssings]

Stop being a bot

[@watchmesquatch]

​@@Nephetssings stop getting in your feelings.

[@Nephetssings]

Oh sweet sajams playing mvc2! (Looks at team) Don't care.

[@ursamajoronearth]

you wont survive the winter

[@Jin-lp5lt]

​@@ursamajoronearthfr people who cry over seeing top tiers in competitive games are cowards

[@666slateran666]

​@@Jin-lp5lttop tier in marvel is boring

[@Klemkee]

It's kinda disappointing and basic but whatever, he's going to be playing other humans on stream as he's just picking up the game, so he picks what he knows is strong. It's not how I pick characters but it's understandable. That said, there is a thing where some fighting game players pick their characters exclusively based on internet tier lists for every game which will always be lame IMO. You only play characters that the internet tells you to play? That's pathetic

[@Jin-lp5lt]

@@666slateran666 Don't play the game then. Hundreds of fighting games out there to play.

[@EricSamaNYC]

first like

[@nyanblackch.3211]

damn im first

[@zeywop]

looks like bartercarter commented 5 seconds before u. better luck next time

[@nyanblackch.3211]

@@zeywop unlucky