LeBron’s influence, Tatum ‘finally elite’, Can Cooper Flagg be the face of basketball? | THE HERD

Cooper Flagg stood out during a Team USA scrimmage, and Danny Parkins and Ric Bucher ask if he can become the next face of USA basketball. Plus, they discuss how the 2024 Team USA stacks up, if LeBron James has too much of an influence on the Lakers, and if Jayson Tatum is finally elite after winning a championship.
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LeBron’s influence, Tatum ‘finally elite’, Can Cooper Flagg be the face of basketball? | THE HERD
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[@scruffd0g193]

Danny is so much better than Jmac, definitely tell he’s been in sports radio.

[@BootyBanditDom]

Comments from his first day said he was a radio host, look at that man now

[@smoothALOE]

I totally agree. Much more likable.

[@npierce14]

He’s got Danny on here! Wow love how Colin helps people get exposure

[@Z_P_P_P]

He’s got a face for radio

[@googsy480]

@@Z_P_P_Pso does rick boucher

[@xpoc1997]

They lining his pockets to be on his platform i promise

[@Noahvon503]

Much better than Jmac

[@thatisokay]

I'm a simple man, when I don't see J mac, I click.

[@tinamarie4434]

Hearing Colin refer to himself as uncle Colin while the guest host says you shouldn’t give yourself a nickname is hilarious

[@connerghiz9225]

I mean Tatum’s been all NBA 4 times in his seven year career, sounds pretty elite to me

[@GurtonBuster07]

first team all nba for the past 3 years but not a top 5 player the jokes writes itself LOOOOL

[@alexnabrynski527]

The Boston hate is real

[@deflategate1297]

I mean he just about to enter his prime let's sell what happens

[@davidrybikov1612]

How can you be elite and be the 3rd best player on your team?

[@deflategate1297]

@@davidrybikov1612 lebron James vs mavs was the 4th best player

[@tylerh5435]

Ric really went into the hair salon and told them he wants the Roger Klotz cut from Doug. Classic.

[@user-xv1sr3uy7p]

😂😂

[@kiingphresh9328]

Klotz… & 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tylerh5435]

@@kiingphresh9328 Hey good look! Fixed

[@770WT]

Milk Toast Rick

[@taylorshroyer446]

Killing it Danny! Making Chicago proud 🫡

[@asenita19]

Danny seems like such a genuinely good dude. It's nice to have him on here, he brings such a calm professional presence. Greatly appreciated. Less drama just more discussion - it's nice.

[@anthonywardjr1750]

Cooper Flagg is DAMN GOOD

[@jaycobobob]

Danny is actually hilarious oml😂

[@nathanoberg4389]

Mr. Danny Parkins... Thank you!!! Hadn't heard your work before, but this was easily the best sub I can recall. Felt like we had a batman filling in for the old Uncle Collin. Apologies.. only a little bit of shade intended for Jmacs Robin. Please return, or I may resort to the bat signal next time robin shows up.. 😂

[@frutochamorro2576]

What a voice on Danny Bring him back often

[@justinwood1078]

Danny didn’t disappoint on first things first or here…get him a running mate

[@natureredux1957]

Funny how after the NBA finals the Sports Talk Media acts as if Jaylen Brown doesn't even exist.

[@Ray-vr7xs]

Anthony edwards too

[@funkslave9425]

They gave JB his props after the finals, but I think JT had already been anointed as the face of the Cs, he’s played better over the years despite not being at his best in the finals

[@Area-5l]

Danny is like smooth jazz while Jason is like over bearing screamo emo

[@rig-zag]

4 years ago I was watching Cooper Flagg playing against my stepsons travel team here in Maine... Now I'm watching him playing against Lebron, Steph and the greatest American players of this generation. Unbelievable.

[@d_madsen]

Danny is excellent. Should take over when Colin is done.

[@mbolenku2034]

Ric Bucher has always been a Tatum hater, it's no surprise he's still hatin on Tatum even after Tatum has proven him wrong by leading the Celtics in points, rebounds and assists on his way to being an NBA champion = elite.

[@GurtonBuster07]

lmao the haters gonna cling onto that fmvp bro its so sad. Same ones that said JB was overpaid and had no left hand now saying he better than Tatum its just all blind hate ppl are just all sheep its pretty sad to watch

[@Rosecain27]

@@GurtonBuster07that’s just one part. Also it being the easiest run I’ve seen out of the east in a LONG time. Previous chokes. JB stepped in when it mattered most, JT padded his stats in garbage time. He’s not top 5 you can’t convince me he is

[@deflategate1297]

He said in the video not yet and still have many years to prove that

[@deflategate1297]

@@Rosecain27yo u see lebron failing against the Mavs against JJ barea ? Steoh didn't even won the first MVP Iggy did

[@ThriveAliveJoshua]

Jaylen MVP

[@kylelounsbury1850]

Does anyone else hate bucher as much as me?

[@jeromemaida4933]

No. Sounds like a personal problem

[@johnryanbodker]

yes

[@ImpossibleRyan55]

Danny > JMAC…and honestly Colin some days. He’s happy, upbeat, and just asks interesting questions to “experts”

[@littleredboy4853]

why does cooper flagg look like troy bolton from high school musical

[@nohalfmeasures6]

Colin always sharing the wealth. 🙏🙏🔥🔥

[@juliothom2408]

Tatum is elite. Best player on a title team.

[@dirtydan3016]

He isn’t even a top 5 player in the league, so no he’s not. He’s at the very least a superstar.

[@juliothom2408]

@@dirtydan3016 Ummm….. Question: Did Tatum make 1st Team All-NBA this season? Answer: Yes. So, by the most literal method the league has to measure such things, Tatum is Top 5. Especially since the list is now position-less. I’m going to say that being Top 5 = Elite. I’d say every all NBA player, from 1st-3rd team are all elite.

[@Rosecain27]

@@juliothom2408that’s still from a subjective vote so. You can’t convince us he’s top 5. He’s not.

[@juliothom2408]

@@Rosecain27 I don’t have to. The NBA has already done so. He’s also a champion, something most of the people you glaze instead of Tatum can’t say.

[@johnkieu2200]

If you put all the best current NBA players on the court for a game of 5v5, literally no one is gonna think Tatum is the best player on the court. At no point will he be the best player on the court for Team USA. Stop trying to speak it into existence.

[@808bAler]

To be clear, Jason Tatum didn't come out and just say "I'm elite." He was asked (and is constantly asked) leading questions by media that purposefully elicited that answer. Using the Top 30 in NBA history as the benchmark, in my opinion, he is easily third-rung elite. But he is SOOO young and still has room to grow, I would love for the media to stop asking him questions that ALWAYS creates a subject of contention. We all know they won't.

[@benderisbest2199]

Imagine telling one of the best players to ever PLAY PROFESSIONAL basketball that he doesn’t get to decided what and where he thinks he is in the pantheon of greatest basketball players ever from someone who is just a guy on TV.

[@gs3635]

“We blame LeBron for everything, so I’m going to blame him here” No Rick, YOU blame LeBron for everything.

[@kppowell6157]

Nah, the general public and media blame Lebron for everything. He literally came out and said “I am not helping with anything in the coaching hire” and the lakers themselves said he didn’t say a word and people on fox and ESPN got on tv and said “nah, that’s a lie. Lebron picked jj”

[@johnryanbodker]

Before Ric even opened his mouth, I knew he would throw shade at this years USA team and compare them to the Dream Team. He never misses an opportunity to talk trash about Lebron and the greatest players of our generation. This is why a lot of millennials and gen Z don't respect or like Ric. He's just flat out delusional in his hate.

[@burnnotice1638]

Colin please stop the uncle title lol leave that to Shannon it just sounds weird

[@vvsmixing]

Wait Wait what happened did Jmac and Colin take vacation simultaneously or did they just replace Jmac with Danny cus i’m fine with either 😂🙏

[@nickbrandt5195]

Even suggesting lebron “play a draymond role with steph” is an absolutely absurd thing for someone to saw, even for Ric who goes out of his way to criticism lebron

[@adamsharp5436]

Brons living rent free here! 😂😂😂

[@mauricemarshall8174]

I like this guy so much better than Jmac! Can we please make a change!

[@TonyThaDon]

Larry Bird and Magic were not in their prime during the Dream Team 😂 We all know how historic the Dream Team was but this team is insane 😂

[@BenayaNina]

Rick swears he’s important

[@demondsid8857]

Another Jason Tatum hater

[@SDesWriter]

I don't know who you would compare him to. He's 6'8-6'9, a really good ball handler, a good outside shooter, a good rebounder, a great shot blocker, and an above average defender. I can't think of anyone quite like him. He played in an AAU tournament and had 70pts/20 rebounds/20 blocks in 2 games against high quality opponents. In the scrimmage he hit two shots over Holiday (not an easy accomplishment), got a tip rebound with a foul, hit a 3pt shot from the corner and dunked after having a shot blocked by AD. He plays like he thinks he belongs in there. Maybe a less aggressive Kevin Garnet? Whoever you think he plays like, he compares favorably. Just needs to put on some muscle and work on some signature moves to compete with equally talented competition in the NBA (because he's not staying in Duke more than a year).

[@scatterbrainedstation8985]

It sucks that J Macc wants it so bad, but he just doesn't have *it* and I do genuinely feel bad for him. Danny's got it.

[@bigjermdiesel4816]

Rick is looking for a weakness, there is none

[@vijayvarghese1652]

Please never ask jmac to host ever again

[@alexamerling79]

Go Danny! Representing all us Bears fans!

[@ballislifedadecounty]

The host looks like Mr blue from the hulk brainiaic

[@traegreene0418]

This is gonna sound like some hating but Coop just screams, “NBA Motor Guy” to me

[@iyintosoluwami]

I feel for jmac. The universal hate has gotta be a bit grading 😂

[@tino6846]

Let’s not get carried away he’s no Bronny James😂

[@transmatized]

any starting 5 that does not have the most prolific american olympic scorer (KD) on it is unserious

[@foxnoel9434]

Tatum at this point in there careers is better and fits better kd is great but pretty much all he does now is score when Tatum is the defender and rebounder that’s more valuable than scoring on team USA

[@kiingphresh9328]

Anthony Edwards has entered ric bucher’s chat…….

[@kengy1991]

Dude I’m looking forward to seeing Cooper Flagg in the NBA. I watched a Monteverde game with him and he was GREAT.

[@nicstone3141]

Boy the push is on 25 years in the making if other groups made longterm plans and stick to them people would be in places in life

[@adamsharp5436]

He’s ok with but he isn’t!!! 😂😂😂

[@dAaronL5]

Alright… which one of y’all is listening to a Rick Bucher podcast? Show yourselves out.

[@GoatedAtNFS]

they’re really trying to find a new american face not accepting europeans are taking over the NBA 😂

[@Noahvon503]

Taking over is a big stretch i.e Boston Celtics

[@GoatedAtNFS]

@@Noahvon503yeah that’s one team out of what? 30? 12 teams out of the 30 have their best player as a european

[@garrettwilkie6046]

Taking over the NBA? LOL​@@GoatedAtNFS

[@abdullahhusain9336]

I think in this conversation, they were trying to identify the future face of Team USA specifically, so of course they have to look at players who are eligible to play for USA. Also, Ric blatantly acknowledged the fact that international players are taking over the league, which is the reason why they felt it's not clear who the next face of Team USA would be

[@kingquestOZ]

​@@GoatedAtNFS😂 Keep dreaming. The all-star and all NBA team was stacked with Americans

[@AdamGreene-il8hl]

Sorry JMAC. Danny is the man!

[@BenWick-oc8pv]

LBJ's influence is enormous Steve Kerr can simply say "I want you to do the opposite of LeBron in every defensive aspect of the game"

[@LoBo301]

We really have to sit through this horseshit everyday instead of a longer block of First Things First

[@Ruben-pt2jl]

😂

[@dionysise5008]

Those who were not there cannot understand the original dream team. It was a gift to all bball fans worldwide

[@alexnabrynski527]

Ric really doesn’t like Tatum how cheap

[@devincognito8932]

Sometimes it seems like Rick is the epitome of being stuck in the past

[@ryebread447]

Lets be honest. A good chunk of the team are OLD. A few are injury prone. And other teams will try and push pace and rotations and be physical. Going to be interesting

[@elevatedevaluations]

I'm never worried about Steph getting tired. I'm pretty sure he'll go down in the top 3 of miles traveled on a NBA court.

[@MonicaSange-oc6lz]

Now these podcasts think they are responsible for making the rules,let people speak their minds..to be in the nba league alone is elite

[@newaulk]

No other Team USA, since 1992, has faced as tough a challenge as the 2024 one will face in Paris. France and Canada are legit Gold medal contenders. And France is playing on home soil. Then there's Germany, the current world champions.

[@franklinfitzgerald6723]

There is problem with Jalen Brown. Conference finals MVP, Finals MVP. Nothing about him. I am a Jayson Tatum fan. But spread the love. The media decides ones greatness to often. Way more casual fans that are easily swayed.

[@dionysise5008]

Can't believe Ant is not starting. They should build around him. Probably best player out there

[@user-xv1sr3uy7p]

I’ll take Steph curry over ant any day

[@UnconventionalReasoning]

Possible Team USA lineups: * Steph, Booker, KD, LeBron, AD * Holiday, AntMan, Tatum; two of Embiid, Bam, and Haliburton Injured reserve list: Kawhi; [Embiid] Did Tatum really say what Danny Parkins says, that now he is elite? What I saw was that the debate about him being top 5 will continue, but that they'll always have to say he is an NBA champion. This is the most insidious thing sports media and social media does: misquoting or misrepresenting the words to then be dismissive of the person who didn't say them.

[@GurtonBuster07]

bro its ric bucher lmao and fox sports you shouldn't expect any credibility or honesty with ric bucher a lot of low iq basketball takes and he's deemed the basketball expert lmfao wtf has ric bucher done to deserve being called a basketball analyst he is a pathetic individual when talking basketball

[@poochiejames4200]

They look like two supervillans

[@AdanBean]

Respectfully, Magic was not in his prime on the Dream Team.

[@derreckpressley1165]

I don't think Team USA is going to win the gold this year, too many old guys on the team.

[@danielet.7527]

Man, Team USA is gonna destroy the rest of the teams!

[@SingleTrackMined]

Tatum? Well. he's no Markelle Fultz but...

[@dmc1118]

Cooper Flagg is the best yt player ever, He's what the traditional media want Doncic and Jokic to be

[@johndailey2323]

Luka has already made all NBA every year besides his rookie season. Jokic has 3 mvps and a championship. You really think he's definitely going to be better than both. Flagg looks great but if I was a betting man does he end up with more all NBA awards or mvps than those two no

[@BoskoShabazz]

So you’re saying he’s better than Larry Bird? Interesting.

[@dmc1118]

@@BoskoShabazz At 17 he is

[@dmc1118]

@@johndailey2323 They are bias media awards, they are the worst two defenders in the NBA, Flagg is better defensively than them 2 right now, Flagg is generational Luka and Jokic jus striving off the new international rules NBA, Flagg would be good in any era

[@johndailey2323]

@@dmc1118 international rules in the NBA. As far as I'm aware the paint in international play is still different, three point line different, goal tending is legal and scoring is lower than in the NBA. Please tell me how this just helps Luka and Jokic only. Would you bet that Flagg has 3 mvps and a championship. Would you beat he makes all NBA five times by age 25? I'll take it that he doesn't right now put my bank account on it

[@ohlawdhecumin]

Keep Danny. Dude has based takes.

[@SPK22]

Would much rather see Danny over j Mac every day of the week

[@deehollywood6013]

Magic was not in his prime, he was technically retired

[@leondavis7100]

why is lebron always on they mind..craziness

[@hiltoncarroll336]

Cooper Flagg is 100% more exciting player

[@21degrees4]

Erasure at its finest. There is space for all.😊😢😮

[@jacobcowan3776]

I am very convinced that Danny might be Colin's estranged son.. regardless anytime Colin is out please don't make us suffer with JMac and give us Danny boy.

[@murrkieryel6602]

Kawhi doesn't want to be there. Give his spot to Cooper.

[@ethangildone865]

I’m here for Danny. Ric is one of the worst in the biz.

[@TeoC3000]

Its crazy that they compared the relationship to media and players to employee amd employer. The media does not control the players and the players are tired of the media controlling the narrative because sports media is constantly painting a toxic picture of the sports landscape. If you dont like it be less biased.

[@disispeter]

I kno danny new , but i already like him

[@SojiRo23]

Cooper is the future of the league. Can’t wait until he’s drafted. FIBA U17 61-0, fyi.

[@Dolph96]

Lmao Jesus Christ ric bucher is terrible at knowing basketball

[@megagermination]

Dream team showed the world how to ball

[@PaperCutRhymesPhD]

I like Danny, but bin this duo lol

[@erikwill2891]

I understand the Wemby hype, but I just don’t think he is going to be an all-time great 🤷‍♂️

[@dlevine7841]

When is Colin coming back?

[@yellyzzzzzzzzzzzz6297]

Danny looks like the guy from big mouth

[@devynturner6959]

Danny so much better than JMac that’s my dawg

[@SuperPleasure2007]

I think Edwards will be the dwade of the bunch! I also think Booker & Khawi are going to be the dark horses!!

[@kevinsullivan5913]

Danny does a great job but man he definitely got a radio face 🤣🤣🤣

[@ActiveRehabMobility]

First Joker, then Luka, now Cooper. Damn is black America gonna be mad

[@erikwill2891]

This dude is better than JMac.

[@mordecaidavis4280]

Jmac is about to get replaced…

[@andirajo1441]

big three = 3 all star caliber players

[@KtonV]

So by their logic its safe to say the only reason this Parkins guy is hosting a whole FOX show is because he is close friends with Nick Wright who is fox's diamond star right now. Lets just call it what it is. Without his relationship to fox's biggest star he would not be hosting this show.

[@123123roo]

Bruh stop it, Antman had Austin reeves an mikal bridges playing big mins alone side him an a trash JJJ as a big man, now you add Steph KD Lebron kawhi Booker AD embiid it’s not even close

[@brandonoates2386]

Ric Bucher is a snitch low key