Lecture - Scot McKnight (The Apostle Paul: No One Knows the Trouble I've Seen)

[@kennethyee5281]

Brilliant and beautiful!!!! Speaking from being a litigation attorney and then a pastor of 35 years, as a fan of New Testament scholars like Craig Keener, Ben Witherington, NT Wright, I. Howard Marshall, D A Carson, Gordon Fee, etc., I find McKnight and this lecture, a condensation of his book, so very urgently valuable and needed for the church today and of all ages. We've used the doctrinal portions of Pauline writings to lead directly into the practical latter portions of the same writings. But to start backwards and use it to inform and guide our reading of the foundations, for the resolution of puzzles that have long existed, this is perhaps an essential practice for the sake of interpreting Scripture with Scripture in a new way. We're already doing that with the end of Revelation for the rest of Scripture, after all. The Q & A was more valuable than usual. I'll certainly be listening again, and taking notes, with Bible at hand. The title, unfortunately, threw me off and made it think the talk was going to be about how Paul filled the sufferings of Christ. I'm thankful for the output of content from the Lanier people. I find myself back in seminary, now with the added understanding that decades of being in the trenches has provided, and more ready and able to find coherence to all of this. More than just "always in reformation", I'm more in transformation, by the grace of God.

[@fleetwd1]

thanks for your thoughts

[@tinababych3037]

From the true bride out in the spiritual wilderness out of al churches. I sang the song of the Lamb, some call it the song of Moses, in the spirit. I am one of the 144,000 we have a PURE faith and the testimony of Jesus. The bride appears at midnight with a message from Adonai Jesus to his people if they will hear it. The straight testimony that will cause the shaking the real identity of Mystery Babylon the Beast it's Mark the numbers 666 the FALSE PROPHET Anti Christ, so you may get the victory as well. Mystery Babylon is the one drunk with the blood of the saints, is the same one that seeks to change times and Laws. HER identity is the Roman Catholic church, with the Pope as HER representative. Every time SHE reappears in history there is much bloodshed of God's Commandment keeping people-saints. The Protestant Reformation is but one such event. The Roman Catholic church moved God's SABBATH over to the pagan say of the sun Sunday SHE did it as HER MARK of authority over God's Laws and Commandments which is blasphemy!. God tells us SHE has harlot sisters. They are ALL churches under HER RULE and DOMINION that carry HER MARK the Roman Sunday, this is the BEAST system. This move by HER has made God's church of the Laws and Commandments, and the testimony of Jesus a desolation. God tells us SHE suffers no loss of children. The Roman Catholic church have foot soldiers called the Jesuits, they are loyal to HER alone. They must infiltrate religion at the theological level. Creating new ones and spinning all types of false narratives for the existing ones. This is MEANT to cause confusion, division and dissension among God's people, we know who the author of confusion is SATAN. The main goal of the Jesuits is to make ALL WORSHIP THE BEAST the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH and to make ALL TAKE HER MARK the ROMAN SUNDAY. God tells us HER wound would be healed, the Pope has once again appeared on the world stage. The Anti Christ is anyone that speaks against God's Laws and Commandments, and the testimony of Jesus. There have been many Anti Christs in the world. The one that sets HIMSELF up in the most HOLY PLACE let's call HIM Satan's masterpiece the FALSE PROPHET A MAN who has led the whole world astray with HIS Anti Christ doctrine. Where do we find the most HOLY PLACE really?. The most HOLY PLACE is much debated, for many reasons. The Jesuit infiltration into schools of religious learning and their deceptions concerning it. The others the ideas of MEN God tells us to beware of those claiming to be Jews but are not. The others are the words of A MAN the FALSE PROPHET, and HIS deceptions concerning it. God has sent the Bible through out the world, it has been translated into many languages. In it GOD tells us who he is, and who HIS SON is, and all about SATAN who seeks to deceive the whole world if it were possible. That is why GOD told SATAN you must REVEAL YOUR PLANS to my people in it ( BIBLE ). That way my people may discern the TRUTH for themselves, and choose whom they will follow you ( SATAN ) or I ( GOD ). The BATTLE between GOD and SATAN the BEAST and the FALSE PROPHET Anti Christ MUST be playing out in plain sight, or it would not be fair. God tells us " I DO NOTHING IN SECRET". It has been going on since the VERY BEGINNING right in front of our eyes THE BIBLE IS GOD'S MOST HOLY PLACE look for it anywhere else and you will be deceived and SATAN pleased. In the BIBLE the MOST HOLY PLACE, God tells us who HE is, and who HIS people are They keep my Laws and Commandments, and the testimony of Jesus. God also tells us HE does not change. Until heaven and earth pass away not one stroke or letter shall pass from the LAW until all be fulfilled!. This has always been GOD'S MARK of HIS people what happened? ENTER A MAN A ROMAN in GOD's most HOLY PLACE the BIBLE. HE tells us HE is Saul to Paul an Apostle of God. That depends on who you ask!. God's disciples knew HE was an imposter they had to send others behind HIM correcting HIS mistakes. They said HE was wreaking havoc on GOD'S church of the Laws and Commandments, and the testimony of Jesus. They sought to KILL HIM. The Apostle Paul goes on to INVENT Pauline Christianity HIS books the number of A MAN 66 and THE BEAST the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH Mystery Babylon. The Apostle Paul sets HIMSELF up in God's most HOLY PLACE the BIBLE. Declaring HIMSELF to be GOD. THINKING TO CHANGE TIMES AND LAWS just like HIS ROMAN COUNTERPART THE BEAST the Roman Catholic church did. The Apostle Paul TELLS US who HE is, in the Book of Thessalonians. HE Is THE MAN of SIN THE LAWLESS ONE the ABOMINATION that makes DESOLATE that GOD WILL REVEAL. There is only one LAWLESS ONE in God's most HOLY PLACE the BIBLE. The Apostle Paul and HIS books of INVENTED CHRISTIANITY makes void God's Laws and Commandments. in the most HOLY PLACE, this move by HIM makes God's church of the Laws and Commandments, and the testimony of Jesus a DESOLATION. This makes the Apostle Paul the Anti Christ in the most HOLY PLACE the BIBLE. God says if a MAN speak not according to the LAW there is no light in them. The Anti Christ Apostle Paul is also the FALSE PROPHET that sets HIMSELF up in God's most HOLY PLACE the BIBLE. The Anti Christ Apostle Paul the FALSE PROPHET WORKS WITH THE BEAST the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH TO MAKE ALL WORSHIP HER AND TO MAKE ALL TAKE HER MARK the ROMAN SUNDAY. The Apostle Paul's Christians only have the one day available for WORSHIP the ROMAN SUNDAY, which happens to be the MARK OF THE BEAST That is how the Anti Christ Apostle Paul the FALSE PROPHET accomplishes it. God says come out of HER my people. Lest you drink of the wine of the wrath of HER fornication. God says if you stay in a SUNDAY church I will say I never knew you! God is not a Christian !!!!! God says my sheep hear my voice and keep my Laws and Commandments, and the testimony of Jesus. " I DO NOT CHANGE" God left the Apostle Paul the FALSE PROPHET IN with HIS INVENTED BOOKS OF CHRISTIANITY doctrine of the Anti Christ that has led the whole world astray with it. TELLING YOU I DO CHANGE. TO SEPERATE THE WHEAT FROM THE TARES. Will you listen to God's voice or the voice of a MAN the Anti Christ FALSE PROPHET Apostle Paul . The combined efforts of the BEAST the Roman Catholic church and the FALSE PROPHET Anti Christ Apostle Paul has made God's church of the Laws and Commandments and the testimony of Jesus a DESOLATION for their part they will be cast into the Lake of Fire. Wake up it is midnight from the true bride out in the spiritual wilderness out of ALL churches they are ALL under Roman occupation.

[@drinno8900]

Backwards is an obstacle Rom16:17. The weak are those with little faith not Jew or gen. Phoebe had the Holy Spirit to help answer any questions ( seems to have forgotten that one). Rom 8-12 the pinnacle of the book, are over looked because they require spiritual discernment (1cor2:14). No wonder they say no one gets past it to finish.

[@ivylim7648]

Ll

[@halwarner3326]

My lord. Arrogant and boring