LED Grow Lights: You Have Options!

LED grow lights vary considerably in power, efficiency and usage. I show a wide range of fixtures from robust and very powerful to high-end, super efficient.

[@Dean-Simmons]

I learn something new everytime I watch one of you videos. Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge. Keep up the great work.

[@CC-zd6nv]

I really enjoy your LED grow light videos because I always always learn something new! This is really important for me because I’m on a very small budget and I need my lights for dual purpose. I grow a small herb & veggie garden indoors during the winter but I also need the same lights to keep my precious orchid collection alive during the winter as well. So thanks for all your videos and for showing us so many options to choose from. You are amazing!

[@maccandough1224]

Sweet thanks for the update I look forward to seeing your new episodes

[@danodee01]

THANKS MAN .Nice to see you back ..

[@scott3028]

Killed it dude. Never heard of any of those brands/lights. So I thank you.

[@thesundancekid1]

That SPYDRx Plus unit looks pretty sweet! The next five years will be very interesting for the development of LED technology. Terrific video 👍

[@volvo09]

Yeah, I hope more low and mid end led brands start widening their fixtures and moving away from crappy diodes. But when All the low end shit comes from China for dirt cheap they want to make the unit as small as possible to ship more, so that doesn't help.

[@volvo09]

I just hate seeing people dropping 800+ on low end generic junk when there are such better options.

[@Mechaneer]

Thank you for getting this information out there, Everest! I really like that SPYDRx PLUS for the large, even coverage, so I've been contemplating using it for a garden. That SANLight S4W is pretty cool too, because it could be used to cover the periphery of just about any garden.

[@Just4Growers]

+Affluent Nerd I’m going to do a full review of the SpydrX Plus and, later, the SANLight S4W - both very interesting fixtures. There’s a LOT to discuss!

[@jefferyrasmussen8258]

Everest Fernandez When will you be doing the spyder plus review I’m waiting to make a purchase decision ?? Hey and your videos are filled with great info bro

[@MattGarver]

Nice to see actual products in action, and seems a necessity to have a way to measure micromoles or PPFD.

[@Just4Growers]

+Matt Garver A quantum / PAR meter is a very handy tool for indoor growers but You can’t do better than the plants’ response themselves.

[@ronaldcain1116]

Well now I wouldn't be so hard on eBay, I bought my first lights on eBay, I did do my homework and bought Visparpectra, 600 W 497pars of light each, gave $65 each for them and they worked great, I grew pounds with them before moving on to more professional grade lighting, so folks you can start growing on a low budget just do your homework for the light is the most important buy you'll do, I now use my beginner lights in the nursery !

[@greenleafgrow6257]

Link?

[@ralphsmith2126]

Damn Ron. Who was the seller on e bay for that? i am just about to buy same lights on e bay from Vispectra. Thats the sellers name. They want 150.00 now

[@Kier4n99]

I thought price for LED was supposed to go down over the years, not increase exponentially every month :(

[@mohsenaghdam3136]

Wow a new video,finally u make another great one,I check my mail box every day waiting for youtube notification from you, Thanks god for giving us Everest

[@frostyjakfarmer473]

I Love your work man, you've done some awesome videos and I've gained a fair amount of knowledge from you! Thank you very much! Also if you get the chance, I'd definitely recommend having a look into Migro led, I've been using them for about 8 months now and they really are top quality lights for a reasonable price in my opinion. I had the Black dog phytomax 2 before and it was crap in comparison to Migro.

[@Just4Growers]

Thanks buddy, I’m looking more into LEDs over the coming months, especially for the growth phase.

[@gangagrow5722]

I really wanted to see Spectrum King and Black Diamond Perfect Sun under your view. Thanks for your job

[@NoahNobody]

So it was leaf blanching. I was wondering why some of my leafs looked like that. Will have to move the light away.

[@xxdeedee]

Iv been watching your videos for years now!! Iv learnt a lot from your vids. Please do a kind LED review!

[@Just4Growers]

Thanks, I intend to check them out.

[@sevensurvival]

Thanks Everest. Very informative , well made video, respect.......Seven Thunders///////

[@johnrivers7013]

BIG HOMIE EVEREST!!!!! Bro we've missed you & your knowledge of course... ;)

[@fredsanford1437]

Love those Spyder X leds

[@danknugz9781]

Always with the good videos and information ✌🏻😎

[@growproteas1148]

Good job.. keep it up!

[@a807440]

You mentioned moving plants from one lighting type to another, do you have any hardening techniques you use between lights/spectrums to help avoid the bleaching and damage to leaves? As always, another great video.

[@askquestions4634]

I just watched 75% of your videos in full. Awesome stuff, man! I watched a video last night from someone else comparing the colors of led lighting. They concluded that the blue spectrum is not good for plants, alone.

[@Just4Growers]

Plants evolved under full spectrum continuous sunlight. Emerson et al performed some experiments which showed that chlorophyll produces more oxygen when exposed to blue and red light simultaneously compared with the sum total just blue or just red light.

[@IndianaDiy]

Looking purchasing Spectrum King Closet Case, I'm looking for full spectrum to grow veggies and fruit in winter. Building a grow room with Orca Grow Film.

[@jmof0464]

I learned how to grow plants hydroponically thanks to you. great work great vids ! And what do u do for a living?, do you grow ? Or what do you do ?( you know to afford all of those expensive grow lights and gadgets )Keep those videos up super useful and if you follow the instructions correctly Failsafe. Gracias amigo.

[@jc6226]

Everytime I hear that intro music I smile.

[@user619tlsdca5]

The Full Spectrum Lights are perfect for Photoperiod Plants while the other specialized lights seem to fit Auto Plants. Many growers make mistake of trimming off water leaves too early of Photos as it puts Photos in confused state and forces to stop growth and start flowering too early not realizing the Photo will still veg and gives the Kola Buds that re veg look. Knowing this from light makers the lights now can be used for such cases as in just using RED instead of Full Spectrum where as when Photos on natural timing and start PREFLOWER ( around 10th week of a 2 week period before initial Flower stage for most strains ), PLANT STILL VEGGING until it gets to start of Flowering stage as most of US knows the path to use full spectrum at Preflower giving Plant the needed spectrum to thrive off.

[@tprfk]

awesome, thanks!

[@TearlessMario86]

Nice video,but Where was black dog led?

[@indoororchidsandtropicals358]

You could have chosen four smaller (about 100 watts true draw) for a more even spread over that 4x4. Better results for just 400$, and you can hang them closer. I've got one Mars ii 1200 (550 watts true draw) over a 4x4 and I only ever need to run one switch at a time and have a 2.5" head room. At that height with both switches, I have no doubt it could bloom full sun plants, but if I did it all over again, I'd get 4 smaller fixtures. Less cost, lower wattage needed and better spread.

[@growforpeaceu.k.324]

Love your vids and the way you chat so keep it up mate

[@Just4Growers]

+Grow For Peace U.K. Such a nice comment to read when one is on the sofa feeling ill! Thank you. Sniff....

[@growforpeaceu.k.324]

Everest Fernandez lol bless you mate get better soon pal

[@Just4Growers]

Feeling better already mate. Cheers!

[@jackmehoff5204]

Alot of money to grow some peppers. But love your work. And you talk at a perfect speed. Dont care what others say lol.

[@Just4Growers]

+Jack Mehoff thanks Jack.

[@speciale3007]

Strange looking weed bro

[@Just4Growers]

+The Boy Brand new strain :)

[@speciale3007]

🤣🤣🤣

[@jordykingstongrows3639]

😂😂😂 very strange. Great comment The Boy 👏

[@GAMINGWITHBOWZEE]

Shits dank lol

[@jchickok]

Poison Ivy genetics?

[@GAMINGWITHBOWZEE]

I want to get a spyder 1200 plus.. how amazing are they truely?

[@ZHPBrent]

awesome info as always. Cheers #growerslove

[@h7opolo]

You're like, my dude, man. Except, you should provide PPFD readings for ALL the grow lights.

[@Just4Growers]

You’re right - I’ve got a big ppfd testing session planned for the spring.

[@h7opolo]

awesome. lookin forward to it, bro.

[@anastasialee1390]

How about Marshydro? I just got one. It looks pretty good.

[@rogerthetinker5116]

have you checked out the maxisun leds grow lights? They are a lower cost ones off amazon. I have had good experience with the 450 watts

[@TheNeonMind]

Hey man, I am a HUGE fan of your videos, and was wondering...what video editing software do you use? I really enjoy how you create/edit these videos and am SUPER curious. Thanks in advance!

[@jorgelozoya5240]

Thanks for all your videos, do you agree with most of the companies that sell ornamental plants green walls (indoor) saying that 4000 kelvin and enough lumens will keep the wall fit? Some others say 5000 kelvin.

[@alcurtis93]

What's wrong with the Chinese blurple? I have a Kingbo 150w (62w real power) and it seems good to me but admittedly I've nothing to compare it against premium wise

[@bubblingbucket4267]

Great review. Surprised not to see NextLight or HLG on the lineup. Hit up Vince at NextLight or Steve at HLG. Both make excellent lighting products.

[@thctitan]

How about getting into some DIY projects? Like HLG Quantum boards, Vero, and or Cree COBS? Also Pacific Light Concepts makes one of the BEST out of the box LED fixtures, their PLC6.

[@jensen139]

THC Titan you are forgetting the best. Chilled led!

[@happyg.444]

Build your own. It isn't that hard. You will save a massive amount of money and in the end, you will be proud of what you have accomplished. Around $500.00 for a 4x4 area. I get 1500 PAR. Like he said, you need CO2. Grow simple, but wisely.

[@jensen139]

Happy G. U can't compete w their build quality. Plus with diy there is no warranty on your fixture.

[@Just4Growers]

+THC Titan Thanks THC, I will check out the PLc6

[@SDgraney1904]

Fluence,chilled,hlg,rapidled,timbergrowlights,pacificlightconcepts,spectruimking are the best in the game right now.

[@Myk3916]

Hey Everest, great video as usual! Video idea "seeds" reclaiming seeds... Types of plants how to find them... Also.... How can you make a cross species man-made plant??

[@Just4Growers]

+Michael Albin Hi Michael, the field of genetic engineering has techniques for inter-species gene splicing - as potentially powerful as it controversial.

[@Myk3916]

Everest Fernandez is there anyway besides grafting to play around? Cross pollination?

[@scuzzymoto9435]

heres an idea- how about a segment on burple lights vrs cob(white lights), many say you get a better grow with burples and some say white- who knows - I would also suggest in layman terms

[@juicyjumbler]

I would love some feedback about Spectrum King LED compared to what is shown here.

[@ConsciusVeritasVids]

Spectrum King makes great lights, except for the fact they waste so much energy in the green and yellow spectrums when more power could be invested toward UVA/UVB and IR wavelengths. I know Phycoerythrin and Phycocyanin are important, but they're not THAT important as compared to Chlorophyll A and B.

[@juicyjumbler]

Reverend Veritas what would you recommend over Spectrum King?

[@AngryChickenMining]

You need to do blackdog leds

[@jeanninegrant5959]

what are the coverages?

[@trollcohibidonet3702]

Did you test the 365nm 60º diodes and essential oils?

[@giovanniseed-planter753]

Hey what do you think about Phlizon 1200 new one

[@eastcoastganjafarmers85]

Do a video on quantum boards

[@dilloncantrell6045]

I will for sure get in touch with them and make sure they get those readings on more then one spot and I will most def keep an eye out please so email it if willing

[@Just4Growers]

+Dillon Cantrell Yes I’d be very interested - please keep in touch but also realize that PPFD is just part of the story of light amigo. Looking forward to learning more together. Peace.

[@kalsprite]

Everest, are you US based? if so, who did you go through for the Sanlight S4W?

[@CheesieGamer]

I will update ypu on my 4x4 with x4 platinum leds

[@MoneylessWorld]

In terms of power usage, doesn't 850 watts beat the purpose? This device actually uses more than for example a 600 watt HPS lamp while, for me at least, the motivation for LED is to safe on the power bill. Am I missing something here?

[@cannabisgrowvideos4896]

Have you tried grownorthern lights ? Any good?

[@taimurakram2222]

i got the Dimgogo Triple Chips 1000w grow light... will that be any good or have i just purchased a dinosaur?

[@Mybwain]

Comparison video please,

[@cannabisenigma]

Everest, what is a good source of supplemental UV light for a 5x10 indoor garden? I have two leds [htg 7.0s which are kick ass] that have uv diodes. But, their initial cost made me take a different lighting direction for now. So what can I use to zap my plants with UV light. I was looking at reptile lighting lol. Thanks for vids btw, always well produced and packed with info. -CE

[@Just4Growers]

You could try the PowerVeg T5 lamps from EYE Hortilux or, if budget permits, the LEP from Gavita.

[@ConsciusVeritasVids]

I use a Zoo Med Reptisun 10.0 UVB+UVA reptile light set to turn on for a few hours during the center peak of the on period and it definitely makes a difference.

[@Duraigo]

I just want to dissuade anyone from buying any grow light that utilizes Epistar, active slug, diodes. They are not efficient and you would be better off utilizing some of the other grow light technologies, such as CMH/LEC or HPS. Epistar diodes produce around 1.1 umols/joule while a 600w HPS produces around 1.5 while costing less per fixture.

[@opticledgrowlights2092]

👍

[@northeastslingshot1664]

Ill challenge any of those lights. 😆

[@wrightcatherine8278]

Brother when you will make new video?

[@generallooch8665]

👊👊👊

[@luizz_k]

Exciting, what about the spectrum king leds?

[@ConsciusVeritasVids]

Spectrum King makes great lights, except for the fact they waste so much energy in the green and yellow spectrums when more power could be invested toward UVA/UVB and IR wavelengths. I know Phycoerythrin and Phycocyanin are important, but they're not THAT important as compared to Chlorophyll A and B.

[@northeastslingshot1664]

Check out my lighting. Full spectrum white. These lights in the video are junk.

[@Miicha410]

2019!!!

[@gamma8283]

lets start with the HLG QB first ;)

[@burmese434]

Do the led t5 put out noticeable difference then a 6500k t5 fluorescent bulbs?

[@MichaelResznekiTrolling4Truth]

more intense, less heat and can keep closer to the canopy

[@normand5847]

What is wrong with "Blurple" lights? I was checking out Black Dog brand. They look like that.

[@duramax78]

Is blurple not even good for just a real part time lettuce lad.?

[@zachant4153]

yoo I cant believe you have a spyder

[@j0ebudda]

PRICE?

[@indoororchidsandtropicals358]

And what are the par readings from theses AgroLed T5 replacements?

[@canorthernkalifornian7168]

Thanks 5

[@Shibu11229]

Where can I purchase the SANLight S4W 3:22 in the US?

[@Just4Growers]

I checked in with SANLight on this for you. 2019 is the short and hopeful answer.

[@auditocanarsie7355]

AgroLED Sun Par Grow / Bloom 5000k is apparently no longer available. Is there a replacement you would recommend?

[@Just4Growers]

Are you looking for something in the same price bracket or could you spend a little mor?

[@auditocanarsie7355]

@@Just4Growers I could spend more?

[@MichaelResznekiTrolling4Truth]

If I put 4 of those AGROLED 41-watt bloom lamps into a 4' T5 fixture do you think it will be enough to grow a decent cannabis plant? I was hoping for short fat plants with an even canopy. What is your thoughts on this experiment?

[@Just4Growers]

The key would be topping and spreading the plants out to form a low wide canopy and trying to keep the height of the canopy homogenous. Where there is a will, there is a way.

[@MichaelResznekiTrolling4Truth]

Everest Fernandez could you do or have you done a par test on the bloom lamps with 450nm blue, 660nm red and 5500k full spectrum? I do plan on topping and LST. Thanks for the reaponse

[@Just4Growers]

Your question is very timely! I should be getting a fresh load of the bloom lamps in this week, and I have my basement cleared for more PPFD testing - so YES, I can happily do that for you.

[@MichaelResznekiTrolling4Truth]

Everest Fernandez sweet

[@ConsciusVeritasVids]

You can expect on average 0.5-1.0 grams per watt (dry weight) as a general rule of thumb. The better your grow conditions and the more watts you feed into your plants, the more weight you'll get.

[@user-nd2zc3um8y]

Everest are these all your vids ... I mean wow....so much lights

[@Just4Growers]

Нови Сад Србија everything on my channel is my own content. I’ve got quite a collection. My wife says it’s a bit obsessive.

[@user-nd2zc3um8y]

@@Just4Growers You got money for all that 😉 smart spending hhegehehe

[@auditocanarsie7355]

Are there any US hydro distributors of the SANLight s4W? Google search results in all euro websites?

[@Just4Growers]

SANLight advised me 2019 is a goal for the US.

[@auditocanarsie7355]

@@Just4Growers Thanks for the update Everest. I'll keep an eye out in 2019. I'm not sure how you manage to produce such high quality information packed and entertaining videos and still manage to answer these comments so quickly. Are you growing hybrid coffee beans too?

[@cartmansan4115]

When u coming back everest

[@Just4Growers]

Awww thanks for asking! I’m still here - I’ve just had a few side projects to get kicked off. I’ll be uploading tomorrow I promise :)

[@maccandough1224]

No video yet?? Still waiting

[@Just4Growers]

Hi Andrew, thanks for the prod! I've been very busy in the background, I promise! Lots of changes / upgrades / additions taking place so should be an exciting 2018. Thanks for your patience in the meantime! I'll have something up by the end of the week :)

[@chevyferret]

Sun system with Philips 315W still beats LED imo.

[@growshack9067]

SPYDRX, biggest tip off

[@jmof0464]

GROW SHACK why??

[@gropro4618]

Expensive but hav seen some great results

[@growshack9067]

dallas haggard yeah, j guess ur right. If u have big dpace, and bigger wallet, it's ok

[@growshack9067]

Actually, that huge epistar for $1300, 1st light shown, is a rip-off!! LoL 😂

[@catharinemcindoe7118]

Need to put out New vid at least every week

[@Just4Growers]

+Catharine Mcindoe It’s only Monday!

[@catharinemcindoe7118]

You have one of the best channels on here for horitculure thanks for that

[@Just4Growers]

Catharine Mcindoe I am aiming to upload more often - just don’t want to do ummm errrr so here are my plants a week later videos. Topic driven all the way :)

[@donkeyballs3307]

U shouldn't have u r ballasts inside the grow room ,creates more heat

[@flyingalex3947]

Any one tried marshydro? I just got one reflector 240watt for my 1 baby, lets see result.

[@ConsciusVeritasVids]

I've got a MarsHydro grow tent that's great quality but went with Viparspectra's 270w (600w equivalent) LED grow light because it has 12 different types of LEDs for full (continuous) spectrum lighting AND it lets you flip on the blue veg or red blooming lights independently (or together).

[@janinefmlevynwbt2184]

i have mars hydro 600w light, great quality, plants just grow well. i just know why so many people use led grow light for very very less heat, easy to use the light.

[@mrpinetree5437]

Ouch, sounds like my LEDs are prehistoric

[@Just4Growers]

+Mr Pinetree LED tech sure moves fast

[@greenboy9354]

Everest Fernandez would u say bml spydr is overall best led grow light? When money is not an issue?

[@1Sumlar]

minimum

[@andreaolveramoore8671]

what? you are not talking so fast

[@Just4Growers]

+andrea Olvera Moore Just in between espressos

[@howardburke7085]

I have never seen anyone do an in-depth grow video using induction grow lights. Are they dead now with all of the innovation in indoor horticulture???

[@bbbbbbb2357]

LED will never replace hps

[@Just4Growers]

+Branden Gauna I LOVE HPS (especially DE-HPS in a good reflector) but “never” is a long, long time!

[@ConsciusVeritasVids]

Oh they most certainly will. HPS is like hitting your plants with a light shotgun while LEDs are more like sniper rifles targeting the necessary wavelengths needed for photosynthesis. I've got a 270 watt, continuous spectrum LED with IR and UV from Viparspectra and it kicks ass.

[@emilio2241]

kind k5 Leds full adjustable spectrum best out xl1000

[@alnilamecrota8147]

That agro led suuuuucks lol bad choice all around. Way better options on the market that you should've picked over this.

[@robertthrem3382]

Why don't you delete some of these old videos that are obsolete so I buy a put a drain table the shipping is crazy and Amazon only have bits and pieces and then you have to hunt for the other ones everywhere else try to find a 4 x 4 grow table for the tub everyone sells 53 in

[@Just4Growers]

That's uncanny Robert-I've just finished working on an update video for LED grow lights in 2022. It will be uploaded soon, so I hope you'll look out for it! Thanks for your feedback.

[@AdamNRG316]

"great for hobby growers on a tighter budget". It's fucking 700 dollars mate lol.

[@Thresholdmoment]

This is b.s. I spoke to a hydro store owner and he said that the yields are much lower with LEDs.

[@emilio2241]

that's because nobody takes the extra time to carfully adjust the spectrum and understand how plants absorb light through piments yada yada yada you know full plant biology and nutrition check out kind k5 leds fully adjustable spectrum up and adjust the watts best grow light out

[@emilio2241]

you cant just go grab any leds off the shelf you need to put the extra money in for leds in order to get the most out of them light is just as important as nutrients and we all know none of those liquid bottles they sell in the hydro stores matter just stick to the basic mineral nutrients your macro secondary and micro nutrients same with lights they are marketed different you can go get a shitty led light that's not going to provide the necessary light the plant needs or you can do it smart do some good research and spend a big buck at the begining but save in the end and payyyyyy offff big

[@MichaelResznekiTrolling4Truth]

I recently spoke with someone who hit 1.8 off of 4 plants under LED. He said there was room for more and probably could of hit 2.5 (he also shown me pictures of the drop)

[@emilio2241]

Yeah because no-one wants to take the time to sit down and read a fucking book about light absorption check out kind led k5s you want to be able to adjust the wavelengths to the proper nanometer and colors plants need full spectrum light but it helps slot with quality you can really make the blues and reds contrast if you veg with 600w you need to fruit flower with 1000w

[@emilio2241]

It's just people are lazy and don't want to take the time to educate them selves that's all

[@kevinm8865]

I wanted to sub your channel but your topics and setup is way out of my league. $1200 for a light? No time soon for me. Cool stuff you got going on but just too rich for my blood.

[@Just4Growers]

Please sub anyway - I will cover some budget stuff soon.

[@melvynobrien6193]

LEDs are shit.

[@virualdl]

do you at least make money or break even on these youtube videos? i've seen quite a few of your videos and can't help but notice how many thousands of dollars you spend on useless equipment, and seem to be encouraging people to think that they need to spend this kind of money to grow plants too. do you feel guilty at all for this, or do you actually believe you have to spend thousands of dollars to grow quality plants? how much money does bluelab pay you? don't you think at this point you should at least overtly state that these videos are basically bluelab advertisements?

[@Just4Growers]

+Lucas Plumb Thanks for your comment, Lucas. I work as a plant nutrient researcher and product tester / designer. I get loads of gear on loan or for free. What do you really need? A light source, fresh air, water and nutrients. Start with a soil-based potting mix in containers and hand water in a sunny conservatory if you can. It will be much cheaper. Me, I’m not doing this as a lifestyle choice. I enjoy the science of growing and most definitely the tech of controlled environment - which is where I’m heading. Not everyone’s bag, I understand, but when you’re trying to experiment on plants, a totally monitored and controlled environment is an entry-level requirement. I hope my exploits in 2018 will be of some interest Lucas.

[@___codeboss___short__yt8159]

LOL NEVER BUY THIS SHITE HAHAHA

[@thisquietplace]

Too bad your vast knowledge is presented in such an annoying way, I always want to watch all your videos and take it all in, but the headache starts kicking in after about 60 secondas..

[@Just4Growers]

Håvard Johansen Thanks for your feedback. I concede that sometimes the pacing of my videos is on (or over) the limit of acceptability but it’s 2017. By the end of 2020, notwithstanding the advancements of LED technology, the trend towards faster presentations will be three years further down the line, and my videos more acceptably paced. Apologies for my being the “guinea-pig of now-ness” in my conscious future-proofing experiment and I hope the headaches go away.

[@thisquietplace]

Everest Fernandez Some subtitles would fix the problem for us less advanced before-ness viewers, then I can mute the video and put on some Enya

[@Just4Growers]

+Håvard Johansen Thank Håvard I will add English subtitles as I try to on all my vids.

[@tawandaenigma372]

Dude, SLOW DOWN. I can't learn anything (as a newbie) you talk waaaay too fast for me to gain any information.

[@SteelBuckeye]

This is information is terrible.