LED vs T5: LEDs can do it better! 3 Ways to Get Better Coral Coloration in Your Reef Tank.

[@BRStv]

Want to know the secrets behind Mastering Coral Coloration? : kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJm6p5uFbJd9qsk

[@jakesreef1730]

Were is the radion xr15 g5 pro par test like BRS did for the blue version???

[@BRStv]

Randy is actually writing it as we speak. :)

[@jakesreef1730]

@@BRStv cant wait.

[@devlou10]

Can you review redsea reefled 50?

[@stadt-mensch6302]

Greetings from Germany and I love your channel. For my tank at home of course I had the same question 2 years ago, looking for lights and all LED manufacturers said, their products are not strong enough to keep high class SPS in my tank. Tank is 1 meter deep (1,28 ft). So I went for the German ATI hybrid in 8x80 plus 4 X75 watt LED. And what can I say. I'm so happy with that light. Maybe LED becomes first choice for other tanks, but not here. Montiporas even grow in 1 meter deep water. Plus it is way more easy to take good photos with T5.

[@sunnygoold9449]

Awesome! This is so good. Would like to see the Orphek though - can't wait to see that full review

[@BRStv]

We're working on testing that full size Atlantik V4, but have you seen the Atlantik Compact test yet? kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6Wbfn6Bmchqr80

[@sunnygoold9449]

@@BRStv of course I've seen it LOL - legends. I know they are very similar. Mainly I wanted to see more about the Orphek spectrum - I think they probably have the best spectrum for acros for any LED so I thought this would be an interesting way to see that. Also as I think they have 380 diodes and the 830ish or something. I think it is strange they don't have 740nm like they have on their bars (or that may be called far-red) as Dana said those help to prevent bleaching.

[@davidling3821]

​@@BRStv Thanks. Your videos are great. I also have the Orphek and I'm always looking to improve to setting for sps tank. .

[@devadroid5269]

I wish at least a single PAR value was shared for each fixture for comparison, e.g., center value 12 inches deep (since it'll be less than the PAR when all channels are on full).

[@epicnas12342]

I must admit I’ve had both and T5s just grown everything better IMO

[@ptester1]

The problem with LEDs is there are so many different fixtures and variations, and any given fixture can be adjusted in multiple ways. Ultimately, the term 'LED' means very little because of all these variations.

[@kpdiver1703]

I'm curious about the Kessil ap700 in the 61 inch Aquatic Life T5 hybrid fixture.

[@coreyoie5508]

I have t5s. But I’m also going to buy some hd prime, to add with it

[@orcawhale18]

If I have a pretty serious case of dinoflagellates and I’m dosing MicroBacter7, should I keep dosing daily even though it goes against what the instructions are? I have also watched your Dinos video.

[@sjoerdkielstra607]

Still waiting on the review of the ati straton. I have 2 and i would love some extra help with the settings. Visually they are stunning in appearance and the light it self

[@lagoonreef]

Randy is always a legend

[@IAMELECTRIC1]

So I use 2 t5s on my 40 gallon breeder one daylight tube and a actinic ho bulbs everything grows I keep grows like mad accept Zoa's. Do I don't keep them in that tank thinking of adding one of the strip lights. My other tank is 20 gallon and I have an aquaknight A20 grows everything really well. Thank you for the video

[@Mike__B]

Gotta say in all my years of reefing, no T5s give the complete pop of what LEDs can do. But that's because with LEDs you can turn off wavelengths where as with t5s you can't turn off any of the wide band wavelengths that even a Blue+ bulb has. But that's ok, T5s are great for doing workhorse applications, i.e. "daytime" and do a fantastic job of coverage over a relatively large area with a relatively cheap cost.

[@madweazl]

Sure you can! They just dont because they're smart enough to know the corals actually need more of the spectrum to survive, look good, and grow. Bonehead users with a wide margin tunable LED are responsible for killing so many corals it's borderline disgusting. I wish more companies would limit some of the combinations to ranges that provide proper spectrum instead of what people think looks good. Almost criminal.

[@raisethereef]

@@madweazl When I talked to Oliver (the CEO) over at ATI, you can't make T5s nearly as narrow as LEDs when it comes to wavelength. Most T5s are using a tri-band phosphor in them and it's playing with that ratio that gives a T5 its look.

[@Proofman92]

I am very undecided whether G5 Blue or Pro. I also have a lot of SPS they dont fluorescence. But also many crust anemones and LPS with fluorescence.

[@PREST0Ns]

So i have aquatic life t5/hybrid with ACTINIC XHO led. Should i go 2 blue plus, 1 coral plus, 1 actinic or just 2 blue plus 2 coral plus?

[@tomg5405]

What would be the settings for the radion Pro and kessil 500?

[@MichaelPallinger]

really cool - thx. could you one day do the spectrum tuning for aqamai lrm? would be awesome!

[@AquaSplendor]

My question why North American companies still hesitate to produce a variety of blue LEDs. It's something I would like to see, like that co vid 1-9, we need to flatten that curve! I want diversity to accommodate variety of corals.

[@sunnygoold9449]

What do you mean? Do you mean they only seem to have like 3 types of diodes in that blue range? (like 420. 450 and 470). Yeah I think that is why the Orphek Reef Bars are so popular and in the lastBRS video Ryan showed how you need different ones to really make the corals pop. I think my light has mostly 450 plus some 420 and 470 and also 395 and maybe 490 too.

[@AquaSplendor]

@@sunnygoold9449 yeah, 380 to 520ish, want diversity!

[@pp4009]

What kind of lights did you use in the aquarium behind you?

[@BRStv]

The tank behind Randy utilizes two Hydra 26 light fixtures. They're the previous generation, which have now been replaced by the Hydra 32.

[@stanleybysshe1561]

Have 3 Kessil 360x on a 90 gal system for over a year. My max intensity during the course of the day is 85%. I however use almost no violet. Can I take the violet up all at once? Does changing that wavelength affect the coral or just how we see them.

[@BRStv]

It does affect the spectrum. My suggestion would be to do it slowly. For example, you could increase the Violet by 25% each week until you hit your end goal.

[@stanleybysshe1561]

Bulk Reef Supply as you add more violet should the intensity come done to your range of 60?

[@Codym808]

Since BRS has recently picked up Reefbreeder LED’s, can you do this test in their lights also?? Please!

[@BRStv]

It's on our to-do list 😀

[@MiguelPxt]

Hi Randy, now you got me really confused. In the Hydra 64 video you presented a setting of: (UV/V/RY/B)-130% - R/G 20% and CW - 50%. Here you present a total different setup. Why the difference ? Is it possible to get the same "T5" sprectrum with the Hydra32 ?

[@BRStv]

Miguel Peixoto in this video we are just attempting to use LEDs to recreate a T5 spectrum. Can it be done and with what tools :)

[@fawazalshaya1280]

You said in the last video that you would give recommendations for 4, 6, and 8 bulb combos but only saw the 8 bulb in this vid. What about the others? Also, would love to see you guys test the ATI Powermodule Hybrid or do a head to head on the T5 LED hybrids. Another great vid, keep it up.

[@BRStv]

We've got a full breakdown of the 4, 6 and 8bulb ATI Sunpower coming up in 4days! In that one you'll see proper mounting height, bulb combo, spectrum and PAR data. :)

[@SBahadirS]

that`s actually what i am looking for. waiting for it..

[@soso_yozora]

what type of t5 lights do to recommend to supplement the Kessil a360? I have the 4 bulbs t5 set up and wanted to get the Kessil. Thank you.

[@BRStv]

I'd personally do 2 blue plus and 2 true actinics. Then use the kessil to add in white.

[@soso_yozora]

Bulk Reef Supply thank you!

[@CLOWNFISH69]

Would like to see BRS add Reefbreeders to the mix and see how it does against these brands.

[@danielfuyo6869]

Hey really cool informativ video 👌 pleas test Aquaperfect Reeflight ❤️

[@tedmontague]

I see lots of stuff about matching T5 spectrums but what about matching Radium 20K halide on magnetic ballast spectrum? Running that single bulb was probably the best any of my tanks have looked. I’d still be running Radiums if halide pendants weren’t so ugly and I could deal with 500+ watts of heat in my living room.

[@oct2274]

the Radium bulb is legendary, i'd love to see what the spectrum looks like. EPIC tanks have used that combo. And true that you need to use the appropriate ballast and obviously a fixture with tempered glass

[@BRStv]

Ted Montague radium in the reefbrite with XHO strips is my favorite all time color

[@tedmontague]

Bulk Reef Supply I actually had that exact combo on my last tank before I moved. Looked really good!

[@averagegm]

I have a 4 bulb T5 in with radions G5 Blue what bulbs would you guys recommend

[@BRStv]

Historically, we've used ATI Blue Plus bulbs in our hybrid fixtures.

[@lifebidesign]

What about the GHL Mitras I see the LED Fixture on your website you guys should do a review on that you unit and spectrum as well.

[@BRStv]

Unfortunately we don't carry that one, but if/when we do there's no doubt it would get the full testing works. :)

[@lifebidesign]

My bad

[@buffalosoldat]

Pro gives more adjustability, blues are too blue and boring.

[@ptester1]

The spectrum of T5's is determined by the chemicals that the manufacturers use to fluoresce. They have obviously found good combinations, but it's interesting that we assume that this is the 'best' spectrum for coral growth and then try to approximate it with LEDs. It may actually be that the ideal spectrum is somewhat different and can be better approximated by LEDs than T5s.

[@BRStv]

You bring up fair points!

[@Sonofgaladriel1]

What would be the best combo for a 4 bulb T5 fixture?

[@Sonofgaladriel1]

In combination with Kessil A360WE?

[@BRStv]

When pairing with an LED fixture like the Kessil A360, we usually go with all four T5 bulbs ATI Blue Plus, then tune the LED to match the color that meets our visual needs. If you prefer a more "white" looking tank, consider two ATI Blue Plus and two ATI Coral Plus bulbs instead. www.bulkreefsupply.com/aquarium-lighting/t5-fluorescent-aquarium-lighting/bulbs.html

[@Sonofgaladriel1]

@@BRStv Thank you guys very much!

[@tinkanator2000]

Never saw a mention of their recommended 4 or 6 bulb combos in either this episode or the last. Did you forget about us Randy?

[@BRStv]

Coming tomorrow (Friday May 15th) !

[@Matthew-ej3pg]

Would I be able to use the setting from the ai hydra 64 on my ai prime 16HD? And get good results. I have a IM 20 gallon tank with mixed corals

[@BRStv]

We will have a full video on the AI Prime 16 in the next few weeks or so! If at all possible I would definitely hold on from making any changes until then.

[@Matthew-ej3pg]

Bulk Reef Supply thank you! My water parameters are usually in check but I never have the best luck with encrusting corals, and everything seems to be growing so slow.

[@devinhite795]

So what would be the best bulb comb for a t5x6 i see the t5x8 but thought you said you would go over x4 x6 and x8 bulb combo

[@ReeferDave]

They said 4 blue plus, 1 coral plus, and 1 actinic when I asked a few videos back.

[@BRStv]

We will have all the bulb combos for 4, 6 and 8-bulb (complete with PAR numbers, mounting height and spectrum) in this coming Friday's video. ***sneak peak*** our 4-bulb looks like this B+/C+/Act/B+ 😏

[@oct2274]

Please do a review on the reefbreeders fixtures including spectrum

[@BRStv]

It's on the list :)

[@kaiopitz-reefjunkiexl4857]

i would like to know how you would setup teh new ATI Straton LED Fixture

[@BRStv]

That one isn't one that we've tested yet.

[@kaiopitz-reefjunkiexl4857]

@@BRStv maybe in the future

[@JoshOsReef]

Waiting very impatiently...I mean patiently for the AI Prime 16HD review! Is it coming anytime soon??

[@BRStv]

Soon! Testing just began on that one. It might take us a little longer as we have to rework the format slightly. Doesn't make sense to use the same 60 and 120 gallon test tanks for that light given that a majority of reefers will be using it on a tank smaller than 60 gallons. Just trying to put the data together in the most helpful way possible.

[@JoshOsReef]

Makes sense! I was keen to see how it would do in the 24" cube!

[@jjlpinct]

6:06 caught my eye, not sure what I'm looking at

[@BRStv]

That's the spectral controller X for the Kessil A360X light fixture

[@jjlpinct]

The fleshy part?lol

[@letauch]

😂

[@chadbalistreri4876]

Please give the low down on the XR15 G5 PRO’S thanks

[@BRStv]

It's on the list! Light testing and video production takes a lot of time between 3 different people, but we'll get there 😀

[@chadbalistreri4876]

Bulk Reef Supply You guys are awesome I will patiently wait!

[@raisethereef]

The blue LEDs in the G5 Blue are too far into cyan. They need to be closer to 460. The G5 has improved on some things from G4 but I seriously question who put them together. They definitely swung and missed on a couple things IMO. For one, they didn't hit the AB+ spectrum that they've been touting for years on the pervious generations. That should have been the first place they started if they really wanted to market the Blue fixture as an AB+ spectrum replica.

[@Utubereefer]

I wish you guys still included the radion gen 4’s in your videos. Don’t got the cheddar to upgrade yet!!! 🧀

[@raisethereef]

They just did a video on the G4s a couple weeks ago

[@BRStv]

Here is a link to our recent G4 video :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3ypapqmrNeBatU

[@tomg5405]

Should the goal not be to reproduce the nature and sunlight cycle instead of the T5? About what about day cycle of you keep the same settings all day?

[@raisethereef]

Sunlight at what depth in the ocean?

[@BRStv]

Tom G full spectrum sunlight will make the tank look like brown town . The point of today’s video was just identifying how adjustable leds really are and if they can truly emulate the tech we used for decades before.

[@tomg5405]

@@BRStv but why when you go on a reef the corals are not Brown ? Sure we should use blue too as some sun is filtered in the sea. What would be the best for you keep the same settings all day or change it during the day in order to create a natural cycle?

[@tomg5405]

@@raisethereef I think not so deep most of our corals you can see them when snorkeling already very close from the see level

[@raisethereef]

@@tomg5405 From what I've heard most of our corals are found between 30-90 feet. That means blue is the most dominant wavelength left. There is no issue in running a couple 6500k halides or T5s if someone wants. Even the tuna sun from Kessil will give you that natural 6500k look. Just depends on what you like. Given food flow, proper water chemistry, and time 99% of corals will adapt and thrive.

[@DanielCarrazana]

What about the new RedSea Lights?

[@BRStv]

They're on our list to test. This light testing stuff takes quite a while to get right, so we've got many weeks of testing ahead of us. In the meantime, we do have a ReefLED90 video that Randy did not too long ago 😀 kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2TKeqCqar-ia7c

[@TattooedDancer91]

Wait I saw this episode several days ago. Did you publish by accident? :D

[@BRStv]

You were one of the lucky ones to get a sneak preview before we decided to put out Ryan's Master Spectrum Part-II video! :P

[@TattooedDancer91]

@@BRStv Yay, that makes me feel so special!

[@clintparsons3989]

What t5 will give me the most green light?

[@BRStv]

My vote would go to those Giesemann plant bulbs we tested in this video. The spectrum charts certainly show higher peaks of green. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJmaZ6eFmJqbeZY

[@clintparsons3989]

@@BRStv thanks for the fast reply! Good customer service!

[@craigdutton6031]

Maxspect razor x par levels?

[@BRStv]

The Maxspect Razor X fixtures are on our list. Waiting on more stock to arrive before testing can begin.

[@lucamartino3007]

Seems like T-5 with an Orphek blue light bar is the way to go. Seems like none of the LED’s exactly match the proven spectrum of T-5.

[@WHOABUBBAvideos]

Why do you never mention the red sea led?

[@BRStv]

To be fair, there's quite a few LEDs that don't get included in these conversations. Not that any of them are better than the others, but trying to mention every last one in a video like this would turn it into well over 20-30 minutes. We did give them a pretty good review over here in this video from a while back. :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2TKeqCqar-ia7c

[@mikemartinez5604]

Uh, where are the four and six bulb combos?

[@BRStv]

That will be in this Friday's video for the ATI Sunpower Investigates where we tested it for mounting height, bulb combo spectrum and PAR output in our test tanks! :)

[@sebaseven7220]

so we wait.

[@MarianoReefandTrip]

Hello, no one see same than me? The spectrum are not same! even close! Where is the green? It is super important for metabolic processes, PerCP is a zooxanthellae pigment that takes advantage of wavelengths 450-600 (green). The T5 have that peak ... where is it in the LEDs? Saturating a coral with peak wavelengths such UV is not beneficial, especially when UV is constant, 2 hours a day in the ocean, most users put them to the maximum and varying, why? for pleasure or for the health of your corals? for first, sure! Anyway ... thanks for the videos but I don't think it's a very scientific fact ...

[@istandwithisreal8883]

Second comment lol

[@jeremy87turbo87]

Plants don't see green does coral