Led Zeppelin: Rock Gods or Monsters?

[@MarySpender]

⭐ *SIGN UP* to access the full documentary here: nebula.tv/maryspender Massive thanks to Bob Spitz for contributing to this video 📚 *Buy the biography here* amzn.to/4aL9gQs

[@beaujeste1]

No thanks - I’ll give it a miss and Spitz’s book…

[@andhewonders]

Bert Weedon is worth a look at.

[@MrLefrog1]

Why would I pay for Docs when I can find them everywhere for free?

[@dingbatjack1234]

No

[@ItsMe-fs4df]

Nice, I don't watch nearly enough stuff over there 😁

[@tmage23]

John Paul Jones was a happily married family man (married to this day to the same woman since 1967) who usually separated himself after the gigs. He would stay in a separate hotel (later Jimmy and Robert would go so far as staying on separate floors from Bonham because he was so out of control), and generally had little contact with the rest of the band that wasn't related to music or business. He wasn't completely immune from the rock and roll lifestyle and by his own admission did more drugs than he'd care to admit but he always kept it low key and was nowhere near the legendarily debauched monsters that Page and Bonham were.

[@arthegon]

Hmm, bassists and drummers live in each others back pockets musically, but at least for two of the most iconic early rock bands, they had very different takes on how to live life. The other band being The Who.

[@mjh5437]

@@arthegon Keith Moon was a Loon,John Entwistle was no angel either I assure you lolol

[@alfching2499]

@@mjh5437 They were all head cases back in them days,I remember seeing them at the Marquee Wardour St 1965 They wernt that great but we're They loud

[@tmage23]

@@familydogg1234 As of Nov 7th of this year, yeah. Unless you have information that says differently. There is a Maureen Hegarty that died a few years ago but her obituary doesn't mention JPJ so I'm going to assume it's a different person until I know differently.

[@rafaelcarmany463]

@@familydogg1234 As of 01-22-2025 Wikipedia says that he is still married to Maureen Hegarty - since 1967. Quite an accomplishment.

[@kingstumble]

I knew Robert Plant pre Led Zep. We are from the same part of the Black Country. I used to play in the resident band at a weekly blues club (The Ship and Rainbow Wolverhampton if anyone remembers it) and Planty as he was known, was a regular visitor. He was always more than willing to get up on stage and jam with us. We used to joke it was harder to keep him off the stage. But when he wasn't singing he was a quiet sort of bloke believe it or not.

[@Gnarlylll]

I met Robert Plant in Narragansett Rhode Island in 1991 at the Pier House Inn he got drunk tall dude !

[@juliemanarin4127]

I believe it

[@philipdru9290]

Robert was probably the lesser of the evil.

[@rickchyczewski576]

The set of pipes he had back then still make the hair on my arm stand up. His version of hey joe with band of joy maybe? Incredible. Those pipes eluded him after 72 and he was just an average singer after that but damn...when he was young I would have given an arm to see him sing live.

[@brockgan8941]

@@rickchyczewski576 Smoking and abusing your vocal chords 24/7 will do that. Such a shame.

[@jimhunt1592]

Normally I wouldn't confront someone in public like this, but since you made me sit through an ad for Nebula to see only a part of your documentary, I feel justified this time. I signed up for Nebula through an ad on legal eagle which promised that if I signed up and continued a bundle of Curiosity Stream and Nebula that would be mine for as long as I kept my subscription paid up. Well, I did - but you didn't. After a few years I got a notice that I'd no longer be able to subscribe to both for one low price. So now I subscribe to neither service as I don't really trust either of you to keep your word to consumers.

[@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx]

Streaming services are rip-offs.

[@jimhunt1592]

@@asnark7115 Do you realize you just gave a content maker ( Mary Spender) your time of day? Perhaps you should take your own advice.

[@garydiamondguitarist]

@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx Specifically music streaming services are helping kill not just live music but music in general if you care about new artists. It's always been hard to make a living from being a musician full time which is why for most it's never their main occupation, but it's ironic in an age you can get the output from most artists at your fingertips, we're all being put in a position where we're making so little from it. I have a feeling that's partly why artists like KISS and Bruce Springsteen are selling off their back catalogues for huge sums while it's still worth something - them and their accountants probably know something we all don't. If you really want to support an artist you need to buy their merch which is usually the thing they get the biggest cut of, so shirts, fridge magnets, physical album releases (vinyl/CD) in cases where that benefits them too. Sadly that's the economy of the music business - it wasn't great when I started in the 90s and it's only really gotten worse since then.

[@Airhead348]

It's a shame they can legally do that. No one has ethics.

[@billycox475]

I liked the Curiosity Stream, Nebula, et al bundle at first but the new has worn off. One of my complaints is the UI algorithm doesn't keep up with what you like or even what you've watched. I doubt I'll renew. It's only like $50/year tho so idk

[@mrosaka1]

Worked for LZ building the stage etc at Knebworth in 1979. Best 6 weeks of my life. My maths teacher was also John Bonhams form master at school.

[@1fnklown]

we had a teacher that said he went to every philly show ever

[@PaulFormentos]

Wonder if ole Bonzo favored vodka in school

[@reallymysterious4520]

Rise and Fall of Zeppelin ? They never fell ...

[@minners71]

Just what I was thinking.

[@BanalayerPete1972]

They broke up after one of their best albums, sadly.

[@hippielady123]

Zeppelin is still rising

[@shadrach6299]

Never ever

[@ivanthecheese9119]

They are legends and legends never die!

[@timothyclaffey9138]

I was lucky enough to see LZ twice in the summer of '69 at a relatively small venue in Chicago called The Kinetic Playground. And what made it even better was the 3 band bill each time as was common in those days. First show was Savoy Brown, Jethro Tull and Zep. A few weeks later it was Lighthouse, Santana and Zep! It's hard to put into words anything that would capture the overwhelming joy and power of these shows which were unlike anything any of us had ever seen. The sheer volume, the psychedelic stage lighting and the magnetic moves of Plant, Page and Anderson were captivating. These are precious memories.

[@rickchyczewski576]

I am incredibly jealous of you. That must have been glorious. I was still in the oven until july of 69.

[@d.l.l.6578]

I used to be able to walk to Kinetic Playground, I lived close to it. I saw Johnny Winter there. Winter tore up the stage when he was young.

[@ThomasBragdon-cm2jz]

I was 18. and saw them at Madison square garden for 9 dollars. Best 9 I ever spent.

[@John-cr2tn]

Jpj said of that train kept rollin that he looked up halfway thru and everybody had a huge smile on their faces and he knew the band was set

[@samr.england613]

They knew they had something special when the four of them first got together and jammed! And Jimmy Page had no idea how truly great they, as a band, would become. Jimmy later said as much.

[@p0llenp0ny]

I love how he adds at the end "It was pretty bloody obvious, to be honest." lol

[@JP-hs6ii]

The first time I heard Led Zeppelin a few years into their existence, it was Led Zeppelin and everyone else. The songs, production and musicianship were untouchable. They are as relevant to me today as they were when I first discovered their music.

[@ACDZ123]

I leaned towards Sabbath more as I got older ...vol 4 and sabotage are heavy metal perfection

[@lyndoncmp5751]

Yeah. Light years ahead of their contemporaries.

[@lyndoncmp5751]

@ACDZ123 I got bored of Sabbath quickly. One trick ponies.

[@robbierichards3911]

​@@lyndoncmp5751it's Led Zeppelin that are the one trick ponies. It's just rip off white man blues. Iommi invented heavy music and Sabbath were a million times more innovative than LZ. War pigs? Symptom of the universe? Supernaut? The sheer amount of riffs is almost too hard to believe. It's ridiculous.

[@markstokes1401]

@@robbierichards3911 one trick ponies? LZ covered all genres of music. Most versatile band ever.

[@Zack-Hates-Youtube]

Pretty much everything in this video can be found in a few minutes online or reading a Led Zeppelin Wikipedia article. Given how surface level the info is here, there's no way I'm going to nebula to pay a premium; no matter how much I enjoy Mary's content.

[@GSDjrbites]

HAHAHA righto...I knew most if not all this information when I was 14 (1979). I first "discovered" Zeppelin in 77 and have worn out all forms of recording mediums of all their albums...cant stop myself from that being my "go to" music. Nebula...only the smart folks use this medium!! All the other mediums are SHIITE!! according to Mary's rehash history channel. Sorry I may be a bit of a negative Nancy. I want to be 1st to hear stuff I knew 45 yrs ago. Like Neil Youngs PONO...My hearing is shit now so I could enjoy hearing an MP3 just as much as a analog vinyl Album these days.

[@garydiamondguitarist]

Yeah I know, literally having read a couple of books about them, it's all old news that's gone over in greater detail there, but her presentation of it is fine.

[@ericvantassell6809]

thanks for the heads up. we won't wait

[@DirtyDirkDiggler]

@@garydiamondguitaristterrible presentation - at what point did she answer (or even touch upon) the question posed in the name of the video?

[@garydiamondguitarist]

@@DirtyDirkDiggler Perhaps the question you should be asking yourself is, why are you asking that of a complete stranger? If you don't agree with someone that's fine but that doesn't magically grant you the right to demand answers from them because of it 😂

[@Jimmy-iy7zi]

Saw Zep back in the day 8 times. A friend of mine's brother in law (he was older and knew squat about Zeppelin and Page) recounted a story from The Firm era American tour. He was traveling on business and came to his hotel rather late and being hungry, wanted to have dinner. He enquired in the hotels restaurant but was told the kitchen was closed for the night. There was a group of people seated in the dining room. One of them, upon overhearing his plight, invited him over to their table to share in their food. This person, my friends brother in law found out, was none other than Jimmy Page himself!

[@a2ndopynyn]

That tracks with everything I've heard about Page. A legit good guy.

[@Relayer6a]

I remember the "Led Zeppelin Binge". You would just sit down with a few friends and starting with Led Zeppelin I play every album from beginning to end, non stop. That was the only band we would do that with.

[@GRIMUPNORTH1990]

And PInk Floyd

[@1fnklown]

That's probably why the term Zeppeleptics got popular in NJ

[@good-bye_blue_sky]

@@1fnklown Don't forget to add "Zeptember" A month long tribute to the greatest band ever

[@arthegon]

Used to do a thing annually called the Rolling Stones Marathon...

[@1fnklown]

@@good-bye_blue_sky 93.3 GET the Led Out, I used to love hearing that, you knew something good was coming on the radio at work or where ever.

[@MrTroy808]

Rock Gods or Monsters? They were human just like any of us mere mortals. Big fan of Sir James Patrick Page (OBE).

[@stevekubien6680]

SIR Jimmy? When did that happen?

[@athmaid]

A fan of his music, sure. Personally I find it hard to be a fan of him as a person considering how he took advantage of his fame to get away with both immoral and illegal activity. At around 29 years old he had a girlfriend who was 14 then. Now he dates a woman 46 years younger than him. And he's just one of many who somehow got away with this.

[@MrRidleyDog]

@@stevekubien6680 2005

[@PaulFormentos]

@@athmaid Pagey also avid Crowley lover.....

[@mjh5437]

@@IO1070IO The Rappers of today are even worse than all those old Rockers,look at R.Kelly,P.Diddy and all the rest.

[@224Nisqually]

I parked cars for the Seattle Pop Festival in 1969. The condition for my labor was that I could stop to watch Iron Butterfly and Led Zeplin. Led Zeplin didn't even have an album out yet. They played less than half an hour. At my Senior Prom, Heart played. Nancy also graduated that year from a neighboring high school. Heart played more Led Zeplin than anything else. Zep had two albums out by then. Whole Lotta Love was a game changer.

[@dl3g3nd45]

Interesting.

[@keneisner3445]

Led Zeppelin is the band's name.

[@chriskennedy2846]

@@keneisner3445 and to add insult to injury, Led is actually spelled "Lead." As far as "Whole Lotta Love" being a game changer, I agree. It ushered in a new way to rip off other people's songs and musical styles while packaging it as original. Listen to The Small Faces version of "You Need Loving."

[@randydoak6638]

@@chriskennedy2846 The freak out section of Whole Lot of Love Ruined what could have been a passable hard rock song.

[@keneisner3445]

@@chriskennedy2846 It certainly was a game changer for Willie Dixon's bank account!

[@wanderwoman4695]

The 70's WERE epic Rock years. Lived it.

[@mj.l]

70s rock is garbage

[@bnd4ever48]

I only saw this video not the full video and it's pretty accurate, I've met Jimmy a few times thru my friendship with his girlfriend Scarlett and I can guarantee to you that he is not a monster and one of the sweetest chap I've ever met, very soft spoken and sweet, during that era drugs, sex and rock and roll went hand in hand with each other, that said Jimmy has been clean from drugs, drinking and smoking for decades so he is doing great🐉🙏🏻

[@martinherts1967]

Totally agree! I met Jimmy in 2005, a real Gentleman and I met Scarlett in 2018 from memory, she is an incredible Lady and amazing poet. Have seen her reading twice and still talk occasionally via Instagram. They are both beautiful Souls.

[@Airhead348]

People should get banned for making these titles trying to besmurge great muscians! It's a shame?Mary would stoop sooo low

[@mj.l]

@@Airhead348 jimmy page is a rapist though. you should get banned for being a fucking dog

[@alexkx8599]

Preeeetty sure, Scarlett, was NOT his girlfriend since that is his daughter. CHARLOTTE, was Scarlett's mother so...

[@CorkDave1]

I have met Jimmy and can say he is such a down to earth person, very decent and giving. This KZbin article is shallow at best

[@TheEvilDrR]

"Led Zeppelin changed the sound of music." Truer words were never spoken. I was there, and I have the hearing loss to prove it. The first band I paid to see, 1977. No regrets. Zero. Regrets. Long live Rock 'n' Roll.

[@axnyslie]

Wow what a great story. Sadly one that will never be repeated in history again. That era is long gone.

[@vracan]

Yeah with pop music today being very generic and VERY basic cookie-cutter musically thanks to technology making artists lazy and lower income unfortunatley

[@baalbezub6848]

“Hammer of the Gods” was the quintessential biography, read it 5 times as a teenager.

[@PaulFormentos]

Did ya read it in reverse?

[@baalbezub6848]

@@PaulFormentos Yes, there were all sort of secret messages 😝😈

[@stephaneherringtoniowritin4986]

​@@baalbezub6848 Probally more factual when read in reverse 😂 Its a great work of fiction, according to Robert...

[@TheRealBozz]

If this is the first half, I can't say I'm going to be missing anything by not seeing the second half. Additional cudos for the click-bait title.

[@mjh5437]

"Kudos"

[@demoskunk]

Yup. Total clickbait. Thumbs down from me.

[@rickya3877]

So you give us a juicy question in the thumbnail (that you don't explain or answer) and then proceed to give us a regurgitated history of the band 🥱

[@ChasingTone666]

It’s called click bait.

[@drewbacsi]

Absolutely agree

[@Edward-MTBKR]

Really! It's like "Hey guys, I made a video about someone's book" LOL.

[@rickya3877]

​@@Edward-MTBKRLol YES!

[@1fnklown]

at least it was Zeppelin

[@TheMorelia5]

I was lucky to see Led 2 times best concert. I ever watch. Best hard rock band

[@Chrisdrumz]

I've read Hammer Of The Gods and lots of other Zep books but the Spitz book(which I'm currently reading) is certainly my favorite. Delves much more into the music process than HOTG yet it also includes all the other behind the scenes and on the stage tidbits.

[@mattrogers1946]

Hammer Of The Gods was Cole's pathetic money grab after he was sacked by the band.

[@Chrisdrumz]

@@mattrogers1946 Cole didn't write HOTG. It was written by Stephen Davis. Cole WAS however a primary "source". He did however write his own book about 20 years ago. I read it but remember little about it.

[@samr.england613]

@@Chrisdrumz Have to agree, mostly, with Matt here. Cole was, as I understood HOTG's, the main writer behind the book. And tho, from what I've read about what Page and Plant said about the book, it was somewhat truthful and accurate, but exaggerated. Who knows? Who really cares? All that will matter to posterity is Led Zeppelin's music.

[@Chrisdrumz]

@@samr.england613 The contrast between HOTG and Spitz' book is striking. HOTG is mid 80's schlock for the most part. It has it's moments but Spitz' book is thoroughly enjoyable and knowledge filled.

[@samr.england613]

@@Chrisdrumz I'm enthralled, and will check out Spitz's book. But, emphatically, all that's ever to going to matter, to posterity, is Zeppelin's music.

[@Jtcatch]

Best band and most versatile . Album after album was awesome

[@jimred5700]

I worked in London with a smashing chap from Denver Colorado. In 1975 he managed to get two tickets to see Led Zeppelin at MSG during their Physical Graffiti tour. The tickets arrived 4 weeks before the show and he said him and his brother hardly slept a wink until the big day. He said the concert was so good, so unforgettable that he sometimes wonders if he dreamt the whole thing. He also said that when Kashmir began it felt as though the building was about to collapse.

[@Skypie61]

Mary. You have to understand how important FM radio was in North America during the 70's. FM was vital to bands like Zep. The DJ's were part of the magic sauce and its such a shame that crap like Spotify et al have taken over...especially when it was free...

[@1fnklown]

After the internet Itunes and all that it seems like my culture from 70s to early 2000s is over,.

[@sneakerset]

The talent pool was deep for on-air personalities around Los Angeles during the superstation era - KMET , KLOS (KABC), KROQ, KNAC, KPPC, etc. Prior to FM underground , local AM Top 40 stations and their Boss Jocks ruled the roost.

[@billyz5088]

~~ sadly the FM radio of the early 70's - with it's freewheeling style - playing deep cuts - and even entire records - gave way to the late 70's - with it's soulless, corporate drone of predictable playlists and then the great DJ's mostly faded away - MTV took over the 80's - then the 90's gave us concert ticket prices a thousand times higher than the 70's - even when adjusted for inflation ..

[@dangroat4438]

The thing about Led Zeppelin that made them such a great band was the fact that you had 4 very fine musicians with totally different personalities come together to create music that has stood the test of time. Like all bands they had their high points and low points, but they stuck with their formula throughout their carrier as a band and losing John Bonham upset that formula. It could never be the same again and they all knew it. In this case they made the right decision to disband when they did because a key piece of them was now gone and it could not be easily replaced by just any drummer. The Who was another example of this. When they lost Keith Moon they lost a presence they simply could not easily replace but tried to carry on anyways. Sometimes it is better to just let it fade into the sunset and let the legacy of the music speak for itself.

[@grog5564]

They were always the Yardbirds 2.0 to me. I listened to blues back in my high school days, the Yardbirds and Fleetwood Mac were my two favs followed by John Mayal and the Animals. The 60's -70's were the best for music, I pity the kids today.

[@contemposuits1983]

I don't don't feel that they were Yardbirds 2.0. The Yardbirds mostly recreated classic blues tunes with some of their own originals where as Led Zeppelin took some of those tunes and went to a whole new level with them. If anything, the Yardbirds, as they were, were actually holding back Page.

[@grog5564]

@@contemposuits1983 Jimi Page formed Led Zep to complete contractual obligations that the Yardbirds had, he even called them The New Yardirds at their first gigs. You can search on KZbin and watch Dazed and Confused and other Zep tunes by the Yardbirds. You will appreciate Plante over Keith Relf in short order.

[@mj.l]

led zep were Gary Glitter 1.0

[@alfching2499]

I pity the way this country has gone and its heading,at 77 I've seen some changes but never thought I'd see days like these no hopers

[@markdonovan1540]

I only saw them live once, at Knebworth Festival in the UK in August 1979. I'd been to a lot of festivals and concerts by then, even at 20 years of age, and I'd say that Led Zeppelin live stood head and shoulders above most. Their sound and energy on stage was epic.

[@gingercat777]

How far back were you?......wasn't it fun trying to find your mates when you went for food/drink/toilet?

[@markdonovan1540]

@@gingercat777 Uff, I was up the hill about 50m infront of a first-aid tent, which was handy because I needed stitches after a fight with someone during The Tubes...So ended up seeing the show through one eye! Luckily, my ears were unscathed!

[@gingercat777]

@@markdonovan1540 Yup, it was that kind of day and night 😊

[@markdonovan1540]

@@gingercat777 The thing is I was trying to stop someone pestering a poor guy bombed out in a sleeping bag. He took a wild swing at me, I ducked and he fell over. Then out of the blue his mate punched me in the face from the side, thinking I'd hit his mate FFS...

[@juliemanarin4127]

Above everyone!!!

[@Spaceghost22]

Wot? Literally the greatest rock 'n' roll band in history... they never fell!

[@triaxon3791]

Black Dog.. wicked track. Turned on so many younger with that being their first to hear,. Zeppelin changed my life, and I've seen it change so many others too. Gr8! Peace ☮💜Love

[@TheTickingClocks]

Even in 2024, this is Led Zeppelin's world. We're just part of it. Mary, your voice is priceless. Thanks for doing what you do. Beautiful work.

[@Frip36]

Finally after some 40 plus years of rock documentaries a critic hits the giant sized nail on the head, that most rock-dock-heads have always missed; either from being thick, or vindictive. Bob Spitz (paraphrasing): "Zeppelin changed the sound of music. They had the volume. The unconventional vision. The stage attack. But most crucially...THEY HAD THE MUSIC. THE GREAT SONGS. TONS OF THEM!" 10:05

[@Matsyendranath792]

No more monsters than anyone else would be in that position - if they had had the talent.

[@Asjemenou-d3j]

mmmwell Page his relationship with groupie Lori Mattix wasn't something I would do if I had the talent. Groupie or not , he was 28 and she was 14 FFS

[@Doug-k1v]

speak for yourself...i always hated this band...them the doors and nirvana

[@Matsyendranath792]

@@Doug-k1v I'm not speaking for myself.

[@TheRRstar]

Excellent (as usual) ! I love the way it was put together.

[@latenightlogic]

Nah, tuned out at that opening. I’m not watching something I can’t finish.

[@bandav_lohengrin]

Smart man. I wasted 14 minutes if my life watching this

[@vvayoutvvest]

You didn't miss anything that isn't available free elsewhere

[@certifiedreviews8485]

Rock began and Zeppelin became the amplifier - in more ways than one!

[@ElmanAuthement]

I saw Zeppelin twice, in 1975 and 1977. Tickets were 7.50 US dollars. Glad I was part of that time. Although I appreciate no, the medium of KZbin to learn much of the groups we knew very little about. Back then, Rolling Stones magazine was our only source of information and your our local rock radio station.

[@simonpayne8252]

You cant talk about Led Zep without including their manager Peter Grant.

[@MarySpender]

You need to watch the whole thing 😂

[@earthsign7568]

True enough. He was the muscle when it was needed. The music industry was a dog show!

[@anuraggdeshpande286]

@@MarySpender does the nebula one have more about rise as well?

[@simonpayne8252]

​@@MarySpenderOh hello! Well, I enjoyed your taste anyway.

[@deemika]

And their road manager Richard Cole.

[@andrefelixstudio2833]

And we are all very fortunate to be on the planet to get to hear and see all these events happen!

[@alfching2499]

It was one big pilgrimage in the 60s and 70s going to see all these groups I see hundreds of them in clubs pubs and a tiny bit of outdoors which could be uncomfortable most of the time.

[@duggy889]

First saw LZ on Long Island, NY in 1971. Still the loudest concert to date. Left awestruck and never to forget. Saw them again at Madison Square Garden 2 nites in a row for their Physical tour. Years later I met Eddie Kramer at a studio I managed in Hempstead NY. It was like meeting a god.... Never again will I be rocked by music like Led Zep did to me back then....

[@seanrobinson6407]

I very much loved that period of musical history, learned to play guitar and idolized all these bands as a young man. I heard many of them did sketchy things but didn't think about it much and also wrote it off as hype. Now as a more mature person, I can't help but to be disgusted by the debauchery among many celebrities, politicians and wealthy people. I've come to realize much more about evil in this world.

[@Jabba-le-feminist-hating-Hutt]

yes but majority of what you read about Led Zeppelin is bullshit, there's no evidence that Page was a pedophile

[@gthofalcon3546]

Led Zeppelin, the four greatest musicians in the world, all in the same band, period. Thee only band out of the thousands I've heard that I remember exactly where I was the first time I heard them.

[@JeffferyHarbison]

My mother worked at the BX in Germany. Tons of people were coming in and buying "Meet the Beatles". So she bought one for me and my two brothers. Ten years later I was a very different person

[@splitimage137.]

Lucky for me: the first half of music documentaries are always the most interesting. I enjoyed this.

[@The-Saxon]

When on earth did Zep fall? They still rule the world as the greatest band ever to grace this planet. Yes, like all of them back in the days, they did things that some feel were inappropriate, and they are right, but that does not make them evil, it makes them human. These were four ordinary guys thrown into a situation that few would be able to handle, and that was total and utter adulation from millions of people. The fact they continued to make exemplary music speaks volumes for just how down to earth they were underneath the weird stuff that happened to all rock idols of their era. I have been a rock and blues musician for over 50 years, without the fame and success they achieved, but enjoyed myself and have no regrets whatsoever. The question I ask myself, is what would I have done had I achieved the fame and adulation these four guys achieved? I fear the answer that is fairly obvious and I may not like what I see in the mirror every morning I wake up. Yet these guys are doing just fine because they rose above the weird stuff like the legends they are.

[@rumpraisin]

The band Cream were the first heavy rock band.

[@barbaraspector6689]

I saw Goodbye Cream.

[@rumpraisin]

@@barbaraspector6689 Lucky you!

[@gonr.2426]

I dont care what others call Led Zeppelin.....for me they were MONSTERS....bigger than life!!!!

[@samr.england613]

I loved it when people claimed that their incredible wealth and fame was the result of signing, in blood, a contract with Satan! (You know, selling their souls to the Evil One in exchange for wealth and fame.) For years I've pointed out that, if all it took to be that rich and famous was to sign a deal with the Devil, then there'd be a whole lot more Led Zeppelin's out there! hehe

[@samr.england613]

Or, maybe Satan only wants to buy the souls of truly talented people.

[@gonr.2426]

Well...if that were the case Zep would be the Devil by itself.@@samr.england613

[@alfching2499]

No pop music has ever been bigger than life,if you think it has you must lead a strange life

[@barbaraspector6689]

I must say that Robert Plant exuded Lust all over the stage. Never saw a sexier man in my whole life. Now I’m 76 and he’s still got it. That was 1969!

[@julesrose4452]

There's Zeppelin and then there's Zeppelin. The Band that rose and never fell. No doubt the GOAT of Rock and Blues music since '69. Greatest band I ever saw live and proudly listen to at least one LZ song daily. "Trample Under Foot" is a fun song and a fave! ❤❤ 👏 👏 👏 ❤ 🎸🎶 🇬🇧 🎤 🎹 🥁 🇬🇧 💯 🔥👍

[@heartoftherose]

The synchronicity of exposure to good music and the emerging technology of electrification and amplification deserves some credit, without denying the talent of knowing what to do with it.

[@robertmccoy9901]

No mention of The New Yardbirds. I don't know how many shows were performed under that name, but word is that was Zeppelin.

[@fatdogtavern]

No one will ever be better than Led Zeppelin. If they aren't Gods, there are NO Gods.

[@moonie1980]

Led Zep..and jimmy page is what made me pick up the guitar back in my early teens.. the ultimate blues rock gods. and the greatest band to ever strut about the stage. no guitarist ever looked as good as page in his dragon suit with that les paul slung low, i also worship his playing the mystique of the black magic stuff added to the whole package. earn loads of dough , play great music, then party with groupies whilst experimenting with anything and everything... sounds like the ultimate rock n roll dream to me great vid mary :)

[@greg6L6GC]

The music never fell.

[@johnniewelbornjr.8940]

Superb and well produced... Led Zeppelin was my introduction to rock music as I entered high school and they, in turn, introduced me to their influences over the subsequent years as I entered radio in my junior year and worked in broadcasting until 1993. I made a brief return for two full years (almost to the day, 2001-2002) in what had become the classic rock format. By then, everything had changed in both radio and artists. I thoroughly enjoyed your documentary. Well done, for the "family tree" of various bands and others within the music industry was incredibly intertwined back in those days and this shines a bit of light upon those relationships that many might not be familiar with.

[@chrisfitzmaurice7484]

Zep's first album is closer to WWI than it is to today.

[@y2kbug58]

Mathematically yes, but culturally no. There was a massive cultural watershed in the 60s with pop, the Pill and penicillin.

[@yogeshbhandari1040]

Led Zeppelin rises everytime the moon orbits the earth or the earth orbits the sun ! They never fell because they will be remembered as the best rock band ever !

[@gerardoh5365]

Blues/Folk/eclectic/creative rock

[@familydogg1234]

Thanx- Jonesey is a very private person. I have a photo of the family when he had a beard. Am surprised he allowed that to be published. Here's hoping they are together❤

[@kimberleyann7702]

Compared to debauchery of today those lads were choir boys and extremely talented.🇨🇦Love my Zeppelin

[@DukesMusic84]

London in the 60s was absolute mayhem. The collection of rock n'roll talent they had in the same room was like nothing we've ever seen. Zeppelin was like an all-star team, I vote for rock gods.

[@balloonmarsupials4259]

LZ1 was just 24 years after WW2.

[@ImYourOverlord]

They were singularly awesome. Extraordinary. Innovative. Passionate, dedicated. Their accomplishments far overshadowed their challenges. It would have been fantastic had they been able to record and release another studio album.

[@thehightenor2596]

Everyone should watch "The song remains the same" ..... then you'll "get" what Zeppelin is about. I love that film ever since I was a teen.

[@good-bye_blue_sky]

I remember watching it in a movie theatre. We were blown away! The surround sound along with full size visuals. My friends and I, must have watched that over 100 times!

[@blainemullins6285]

That’s all we had until Jimmy Page released that double DVD of live material. I still cannot make it through the 20 minute drum solo on Disc 1. I liked Disc 2 because it had various performances.

[@recvehicle8888]

What are they about other than ripping off other musicians

[@omegalast800]

...when the Twin Towers appeared, the only time they appeared,.. at the start of Stairway'...a shiver ran down my back. The stairways ultimately became exactly that.. for those still trapped inside, stairways to heaven...

[@blainemullins6285]

@@recvehicle8888 They did take the Jeff Beck Groups’s sound and run with it, claiming it as their own. Plant also sang like Steve Marriott until he found his own voice, which was feminine and finally masculine by 1979.

[@rgiramonti]

Your insight from being there in the '70s and knowing everything about everything is astonishing. You must be a very content person.

[@niclightfoot4329]

I have stopped watching channels that force advertising. I pay KZbin to not get advertising, I will not watch content that forces advertising down my throat!

[@jessekulbe1855]

Just skip through

[@steveelliott5643]

These guys were a godsend group,no doubt.Though there are many others of inspirational talent,it was more the era of rock that was meant to be.I honestly cant stop naming bands that wrote classic songs which contributed ,and to me "Personally''just as good.Little Richard,Beatles,Steve Marriott,Rory Gallagher,The Sweet,Slade,Phil Lynott,Lynyrd Skynyrd,Allman bros,Ozzy,Rhandy,Bob Daisley,Free,Deep Purple Uriah Heep.......

[@carolmartin4413]

Ok. My head is spinning from all the names..historical and current..all the renowned musicians surfaced to tell a story. I have loved Led Zeppelin for 50 years. I still love their music. I still feel a need to protect them when others degrade them. This intro vid is nice. I could relax and listen. I need to now hear the whole story. Ok Nebula...now you've got my attention. Thanks, MS. 👍

[@samr.england613]

It really doesn't matter what anyone says about Led Zeppelin. Their music speaks for itself, and that's all our posterity will care about: The Music!

[@Trobtwillis]

9:33 Brunette did not write "Train Kept-a Rollin'" but his cover version did influence other covers by Yardbirds, Led Zeppelin, and Aerosmith. If I remember correctly, the song was written by Tiny Bradshaw.

[@lupcokotevski2907]

Highly recommended: the recent brilliant video essay on Led Zeppelin entitled Mad, Bad and Dangerous to Know by the Foul Quince youtube channel, which is of the highest level out there.

[@mattg5978]

I had the fortunate chance to talk to jimmy page at a fundraising event when i was a teenager. I wanted to get his autograph but event security wouldn’t let me within sight of him. Somehow he happened to see me and pushed his people aside to come up and say hello. I was so starstruck I didn’t know what to say but he kept on a small conversation about how busy things were. Very nice man.

[@user-xe6gx6wh4g]

I don't get it what your title is supposed to imply. What monsters? Or, when did Zeppelin fall? They and the Beatles are still the most revered bands of all time. It was simply tragic when Bonzo died. I remember the hushed hallways in my high school at the time 'Did you hear the drummer for Led Zeppelin and Stairway to Heaven just died?' 'Oh no!' This was nothing but a standard history of the band which is always appreciated but a little too high brow and click baity me thinks.

[@mushin0247]

There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold And she's buying a stairway to Heaven When she gets there she knows, if the stores are all closed With a word she can get what she came for Ooh, ooh, and she's buying a stairway to Heaven

[@studioblackhorse2024]

It seems you have fallen into the trap of being the poorly informed critical hack producing clickbait rather than being an original creator of meaningful content. You may be judging yourself by your intentions but the world will judge you by your actions. Try sticking to subjects you know through first hand experience and leave the clickbait and hearsay alone.

[@iamcase1245]

She has a failed music career so she's falling into the common trap we see a lot these days of failed musicians creating hyper-opinionated very click baity youtube channels as a way to pay the bills. It's annoying but one thing we can do is not watch.

[@johntaft771]

Most excellent documentary and treatment of THE GREATEST ROCK BAND, EVER! It so cool that nearly 60 years later they still have a growing fanbase, and people such as yourself do a great job shining their light to new listeners. Keep it up. I first heard them via LZ II in the summer of 1969 when my brother came home for college Summer Break. I was all of nine years old and I found "my" music. My friends and I collected their albums as they were released and we saw them in concert in 1975 and 1977. Good times, indeed!

[@HardRockMaster7577]

LZ II was released in October of 1969. That's when I got into LZ at the age of 14.

[@luisdetomaso867]

Is Bob Spitz getting a cut of the Nebula proceeds since the content was essentially researched and organized by him?

[@roytee3127]

"Jeff's playing is unlike Jimmy's ever met". That would remain true throughout Jeff Beck's life.

[@christopher7310]

God I love your voice. You could make a documentary about the rise of toilet paper and I would be enthralled the whole time. Seriously though... I'm loving this. Led Zeppelin is an amazing group that are forever icons

[@alexanderyaroslavich2703]

I don't get it. Millenials complain about "dad rock" but one of them put out this interesting, but unnecessary bit of whatever "Led Zep Lore" to get channel views. Seriously, if you wanna bury the past because of things like bad behavior, don't perpetuate the myths. Ridiculous

[@steelesaldutti]

Not a fan of this 2 part paywall model

[@daethe]

Shouldn't care that much about some random persons opinion to sit through the first half anyway

[@rorybninetythree]

Lemme rephrase this for you: “Give me what I want for free because you owe it to me for nothing because I have been conditioned to assign no monetary value to creativity and content. Despite you putting days of effort at a time into these videos, built off the back of years of hard work getting to this point, even in the face of poor, increasingly unpredictable revenue on KZbin, which your livelihood hangs in the balance of, give it to me for nothing” Support her on her platform of choice or don’t, but think before you post.

[@Newton-Reuther]

You've made one comment on this channel. Mary Spender's making videos for fans, not random incels on the internet. Move on.

[@rorybninetythree]

@@Stratocus so because of your situation, every creator should make ‘extravagant’ content at a loss for the benefit of all? beyond your own point of view, consider the systemic problems of platforms like KZbin that might have caused this situation, rather than the creators themselves. My sympathies to you, I believe that education should be free and open, but we conflate education with media and the costs associated in its production, and we don’t unfortunately live in a world where artists can create exactly the art they want to and support themselves by giving it away for nothing. It is systemic; KZbin’s revenue model, content moderation policies, greed of its centralised billionaire owners who do NOT care about you or the welfare of the creators that generate ad revenue for them, so they’re forced away. It isnt a huge ask to say “hey, KZbin isn’t working out for me, but I’m over here trying to shift away from this broken unsustainable model”. Best wishes, I hope we can all get to utopia one day, I personally don’t think late capitalism will be in the picture like it is now though. If you’re ever getting something for free, remember you are the product.

[@MarySpender]

This is so much more than a teaser video.

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The Rover=wicked Annabella by the Kinks ●Rock and roll=Keep a Knockin by Little Richard ●Whole lotta love/ Were gonna groove= if you listen to the very beginning of Groovin' by Ben E. King you can hear where jimmy got the idea for whole lotta love. Lyrics=You Need Love by Willie Dixon (but covered in the style of Small Faces cover of the same song but called You Need Loving) ●Going to california= Nottamun town and Henry Martin by Bert Jansch ●Bron-Y-Aur Stomp=Waggoner's Lad by Bert Jansch ●Over the Hills and Far Away=Black Waterside by Bert Jansch ●Black Waterside=Black Waterside by Bert Jansch ●White Summer=She Moves Through the Fair by Davey Graham ●Stairway to heaven=Taurus by Spirit. This one is very controversial because that beginning descending line is very common. But also zeppelin played with spirit in concert. Led zeppelin would play a cover of a song called As Long As I Have You by Garnet Mimms where zeppelin would incorporate the song Fresh Garbage by Spirit. ●Achilles Last Stand=Long Cool Woman by the Hollies. It's the guitar part backing the solo which is the same as the San Francisco by Scott McKenzie part in Dazed and Confused live at Madison Square Garden. ●Your Time Is Gonna Come=Dear Mr. Fantasy by Traffic ●Traveling Riverside Blues=In Yours and Your Mine by Johnny Winter ●Since I've Been Loving You=New York City Blues by The Yardbirds (with Jeff Beck). Also, Never by Moby Grape ●Trampled Underfoot=Superstitious by Stevie Wonder. Lyrics=Long Train Runnin' by The Doobie Brothers ●Lemon Song=Killing Floor by Howlin' Wolf ●Babe I'm Gonna Leave You=Babe I'm Gonna Leave You by Anne Bredon and Joan Baez (search Pipes and Flamenco by Led Zeppelin and compare it to Joan Baez) ●Dazed and Confused=Dazed and Confused by Jake Holmes ●Moby Dick=Watch Your Step by Bobby Parker ●Communication Breakdown=Nervous Breakdown by Eddie Cochran ●In My Time of Dying=Eat My Words by Taste ●Good Times Bad Times was taken as well, but I can't remember the original artist ●The Song Remains the Same= Tinker Tailor by the Yardbirds. This song isn't stolen because Jimmy wrote the guitar parts. I just wanted to list it because it's pretty cool! And thing with Tangerine=I Knowing That I'm Losing You by the Yardbirds! P.S. I didn't include all of the lyrics that were taken from old blues songs because it's just too much to include. I'm also still a huge fan of Led Zeppelin. Yes, they stole from others when proper credits should have been given. Period. I'm still a fan because Zeppelin expanded from their inspirations from all kinds of genres and turned each one of these songs into something so incredible that i don't even know just how to describe.

[@JamesRook]

That's the big issue I have with Led Zep. They easily could have said they borrowed, built on, re-interpreted material, but instead tried to claim credit for writing the songs. All the while saying how much they respected all the great blues artists and the all others that they ripped off.

[@AbbeyRoadkill1]

Some of these are legit rip-offs and others are just instances of superficial similarities. Also, a song like "Bron-y-Aur Stomp" is substantially different than Bert Jansch's original instrumental (which arguably means it constitutes a new song).

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@@AbbeyRoadkill1 I respectfully disagree. Bron-Y-Aur Stomp has very noticeable similarities

[@HardRockMaster7577]

Thanks. I Love LZ's versions and re-workings of these songs. "Everybody nicks it."

[@surfernorm6360]

Mary I watched the content and it was terrific . You used the "Monsters" in the title as a big fan I thought that is unfortunate specially with thumbnails being what they are. But the history and the clips is awesome.

[@mleon1958]

I'll never forget what Ginger Baker said of John Bohnam; " He couldn't swing a bag of shit!". Obviously, he was referring to his supposed lack of swing on the drums.

[@andyhinds542]

But then again that's Ginger Baker for you. I have never been blown away by Ginger Baker's drumming. Being an opinionated asshole doesn't make you a great musician or a drummer.

[@billyz5088]

@@andyhinds542 ~~ Ginger was very good at what he did - which was much different than what Bonham did - but Baker was not only known to verbally tear others down - he would start a barroom brawl at the drop of a hat - so he was willing to back up his opinions - right or wrong - with his blood & guts - the man was a true maniac ..

[@luvbasses5487]

First album, first song: GTBT. It was as apparent as a massive head-on collision and if anything else changed Rock drumming overnight. Jimmy’s production skills shone brightly with this first record. It’s’ crisp sound set it apart from everything else coming out of London in early 1969. Jimmy had caught lightning in the bottle with this group I think it’s safe to say!

[@sadiqmohamed681]

Since Zeppelin have been my favourite band for more than 50 years. I first heard them on John Peel, and immediately saved up to buy the first album. Then I saw them live at Shepton Mallet in 1970, and Earls Court in 1975. By far the best rock band I have seen live! Plant is still my favourite rock singer, and he still has the voice and tours. Magic. I enjoyed this segment of the doc, so you finally sold me. I have ordered Bob's book, and signed up to Nebula! I would like to have paid for the Lifetime account, but since I am now 73 and a pensioner, I have joined the Annual sub crew. I'm going to watch on my TV. I will have to work out how to cast it. If not I will just run a long lead from my laptop. I've always liked the professional way you approach your work. Take care and keep up the good work.

[@dohanddonuts5716]

After my dad ended his tour in Vietnam he was stationed in Petaluma, CA. My dad was on duty one night and he was listening to a FM radio station. FM was like pirate radio, they were more likely to play harder music. He said the woman disc jockey had a "friend" with her. If you have ever seen WKRP In Cincinnati, it was like when Venus was on duty with a female companion. Anyways, she goes I have a friend here listen to this. She played Led Zeppelin II side one. She came back on the a the end of side one, said the guy with her was blowing her mind, and played side two. He said you never heard anything like it. He actually still has Zep II & III on cassette. On a funny note, I first heard Zeppelin on Beavis and Butthead.

[@iamanovercomer3253]

🇬🇧🎸🎵🎶 Jeff Beck, Alvin Lee, Robin Trower, Peter Frampton and Steve Marriott of Humble Pie ‼️👍

[@zyzxx1762]

Mary, you clearly aren't old enough to have seen them. The late 60's and 70's was dominated by a number of outstanding musically unique bands. Led Zepplin was clearly one of a kind and their live shows were unbelievable! I was lucky to see them 3 times. Every time a new album was released it became the center of attention. Since #4 was released at the end of 1971 I can't recall not hearing a LZ song at least one a year.

[@martinpaddle]

Does the video on Nebula contain original Led Zeppelin music? Does it contain interviews with Page, Plant or Jonesy? As much as I love your music and content, a documentary without the music of the band it's about and stuff that's not already available on Wikipedia will not get many people to sign up.

[@hippielady123]

I dont see any monsters, just great rock n roll artists

[@TheFarmanimalfriend]

Led Zeppelin were four very talented young men.

[@PaulFormentos]

Yeah too bad two of em couldn't say no to Mr. brownstone

[@stitchgrimly6167]

Keith Moon said "that'll go down like a lead balloon". John Entwistle replied "more like a lead zeppelin". Why does no one ever tell this story correctly?

[@mikeg2939]

Funny she got this wrong because it's well documented.

[@SrbijaCG]

Interesting fact: Robert Plant worked in construction. And he went to audition for Led Zeppelin right after work all sweaty, dusty, and dirty.

[@spyderlogan4992]

The authorized documentary 'Becoming Led Zeppelin' STILL hasn't found a distributor. A work in progress version was screened in September 2021 at the Venice Film Festival and Jimmy Page, himself, was there...Now?...Crickets...

[@will420high4]

Led Zeppelin is a straight up Human Legend! The way they changed music is almost "supernatural", trully amazing individuals that together ascended to a "god" like status, every heavy rock band wanted to be like them and just like Black Sabbath, they pioneered entire genres that can be traced back to them! The world would literally not be the same without Led and Sabbath and I'm sure glad they did, my style of life and music (as of millions of people ever since) has always been what it is thanks to those contributions!

[@davidsfollys]

Mary thats a fantastic presentation. Thank you... Csn I suggest gary moore as a suitable subject for your consideration?

[@johngraydon506]

I bought Terry Reids( Mickey Most’s produced mfp album ) in the sixties and I still play it, its truly brilliant and Terry Reid a world class act & vocal

[@texasproud3332]

I would say based on I was around at the rise of Led Zeppelin they created music that will never be forgotten also fame and fortune does affect people differently but there music says it and also the fact that three founding members are alive and well they have given awards to numerous to mention and at 67 years old my ringtone on my phone is Kashmir

[@stellamariesmithson1431]

Good choice of ringtone.

[@whisper2441]

I'd be lucky to name 2 LZ songs, and I'm 58. Just saying many of us think differently.

[@parislibby]

Mine's Whole Lotta Love 😍

[@jamestreible4545]

Imagine a group consisting of Page, Beck, Moon and Entwistle. That would have really changed things in the rock world.

[@mountart2]

I thought Steve Marriott was asked to join Page's New Yardbirds/Led Zeppelin band before asking Plant. Man, that would have been a band I would have loved, Marriott as lead singer.

[@BD12]

Marriott isn't underrated, as such, because everyone in the know regards him really highly, but he really ought to be talked about more in general. He still sounded like a million bucks not long before his death. What a waste.

[@philipbrackpool-bk1bm]

I really don’t think Marriott would have fitted page’s vision of zeppelin.

[@mountart2]

@@philipbrackpool-bk1bm I am pretty sure I read Page was definitely considering Steve Marriott for Zep, so he saw it. I personally think it would have been a great move as I really don't like Plant's voice, was too squealy for my taste, but I understand and respect your position as most of my friends agree with you and think I'm crazy! 😁

[@philipbrackpool-bk1bm]

@@mountart2 I’m sure page loved Steve’s voice but apparently he could be tricky to deal with, and did page need another guitarist, I have to say though that I think the small faces were a great band.

[@mountart2]

@@philipbrackpool-bk1bm Yeah, what artist isn't a bit of a diva and hard to deal with... I should know being an artist my whole life. ;-) But yeah, Steve was a handful. I actually found the article I read, it's in RS mag and it says Steve was Jimmy's first choice for the lead singer role in Zep but he couldn't except because Steve's manager (who I believe had mob ties) wouldn't let Steve out of his contract with the Small Faces. And me... Just like Humble Pie, I would welcome three guitarists like Beck, Marriott and Page in a band any day!

[@robcreel4257]

Nice sneak peak. I like the way you constructed the history. For me, the whole of blues rock music begins with Led Zeppelin. I've read Hammer of the Gods, a few times, so I know a fair amount about early Led Zepp. The rock anti-hero, if you will. Very nice!

[@drewbacsi]

Good, clickbait-y title, but absolutely nothing new said here