Raspberry Pi 500 First Look & Teardown. New 15.6" display test

[@JeffGeerling]

The power draw you saw was pretty much in line with my testing-4-6W just for the display (4W at 60% brightness, 5.5-6W at 100%).

[@farishanafiah8461]

6W just for the display is quite a lot. That's a bit worrying.

[@RoboticsDIY]

@@farishanafiah8461 :D

[@gilangwahyu4450]

​@@farishanafiah8461 is there any lower?beside phone screen

[@JeffGeerling]

@@farishanafiah8461 Heh, don't try out any typical desktop monitors! They often burn 10-20W minimum... note that the power measurements include the wall adapter, and there are losses in it too. So the panel itself maybe uses 3-5W.

[@JeffGeerling]

You get those clips open a lot easier than I did, you must have fingers of steel lol It doesn't help that the air is so dry here, my fingers are ready to turn into dust it feels like!

[@91722854]

i would prefer if they had some sort of sliding plate as a bottom cover, would make it easier for children to use i suppose, as this is more catered to kids, giving them something to learn about computers from

[@Waveshare_Ruan]

Just watched Jeff's video, and now I see Jeff here too, lol!

[@petejandrell4512]

@@Waveshare_Ruan We just need Chris Barratt from Explaining Computers then all the big boys are here!

[@amcadam26]

This may be a reason why they didn't complete the M2 slot implementation. Wouldn't been a pain to have schools and home users opening and potentially breaking the case. A bottom opening like on the Amiga 1200 would be a better solution.

[@Mr_KultiVator]

@@amcadam26 +1 for trap-door access on a future M.2 enabled Pi500 Pro - and yes, funny how many things leads us back to the golden days of the Amiga ;-)

[@adalbert.arkosi]

Love your cats, so curious and playful. 🐈

[@BillyNoMates1974]

its been proven cats like Raspberry Pi pc's

[@mabhatter654]

@@BillyNoMates1974the review is 200% better!

[@BillyNoMates1974]

@@mabhatter654 I wouldnt want to merge the two together though. mind you a Cat Pi 500 sounds cool.

[@Boyracer73]

Cats and Raspberry Pi's, what's not to like 😊

[@Waveshare_Ruan]

Really like that this screen allows cables to pass through from directly underneath, making the wiring very tidy.

[@Wythaneye]

Yes, I agree that it is a big deal. I have a fairly nice 15" panel that I use for my Pi400, and while I like the monitor, the cable routing leaves a lot to be desired. Having the pathway through the center, that lines up with the ports on the Pi500 is a very nice touch.

[@MINKIN2]

The Pi team are knocking it out of the park with their peripherals lately. And the Pi 500 looks sleek too.

[@WattTheTech]

Just placed an order for my kit, been waiting for this display, love it

[@Jenkem254]

Once this setup gets NVME, I'll order one aswell. Or if some geeks solder a NVME socket to it and it tends out to be working, but I don't think so. Might have other unpopulated components that are required for it to be fully working...

[@iolair1973]

I might get one of these as a stand-alone, no distractions word processor for novel writing.

[@Kw1161]

Thanks Lee, you and Jeff Geerling talked me into ordering both the Pi500 kit and display! 🎉 Have a great week!

[@ultrium2000]

It is disappointing that you could not put a NVMe SSD in the 500. Maybe they will release 500+ where you can.

[@CyberDunk2077]

It might be possible to add the socket for one, for people who are handy with a soldering iron. However there are lots of other unpopulated areas on the pcb so it probably will be a future update.

[@RoboticsDIY]

Not sure about 500+ version. I'm wondering did they have any issue with PCIe. Or its really a bit of lowering the bottom line + giving the advanced tinkerers the chance to solder the socket in themselves and Jeff the bios and Geerling the kernel themselves. @JeffGeerling

[@ultrium2000]

@@CyberDunk2077 In his video, Jeff Geerling try to add a socket to the board and failed. He said someone with more advanced skill could do it. I hope you are right about adding the socket to a future update.

[@ultrium2000]

@@RoboticsDIY I hope you are wrong about the issue with PCIe, but now I am wondering about it myself.

[@RoboticsDIY]

@@ultrium2000 I'm leaning more and more to learning how to program the Raspberry Pi hardware directly without Linux. Yes there are hundred other boards, some more powerful, some cheaper, but Raspberry definetly serves as an icebreaker and has a lot if community support. So if I would step up from Atmel Atmegas used by Arduinos, it makes s sense to me to learn the chip which is used by Raspberry. I'm only not sure how much data is publicly awaiable. Can I just download a judge datasheet similar to Atmega328? 🙄 I have heard that you can bare metal program Raspberry, but I haven't looked into it, are there any tutorials on KZbin per say. Either way understanding the hardware at lover level should help with not only custom projects but making mods and hacks around.

[@amcadam26]

This is a perfect classroom computer. It's easy to picture a class with 30 of these setup with this Pi monitor, then a drawer full of SD cards.

[@distiking]

And 30 broken hdmi ports in the classroom

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

It is not a perfect classroom computer by any means - it's designed to be cheaper for home users but a keyboard like that, whilst entirely functional, is not going to stand up to kids hammering away at it for very long. A "traditional" Raspberry Pi in a hard case with a good quality external USB keyboard (that you can just swap out if it breaks) is a much more resilient solution.

[@Jenkem254]

​@@terrydaktyllus1320I'll get one nonetheless once it gets full NVME support. I don't mind being limited to ARM64 software but I don't want to have to use a micro SD card as the main storage device.

[@clangerbasher]

The whole package looks ACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@kattz753]

Kitten approved!

[@nakfan]

I hope this is a preproduction unit... No connectors for M.2 or PCIe??? And micro HDMI? 🫤

[@leepspvideo]

It is the final version of the Pi 500

[@nialltracey2599]

The lack of NVME makes perfect sense: it's pretty obvious they want to release one with it down the road, but as its supposed to be an easy kid's computer first and foremost, having to open it up and mess around with NVME isn't in the design goals for the primary market. Having a prefitted NVME would increase the cost over prebuilt SD cards. I'll wait for the probable A500+ (which I'm pretty certain will be the name, cos retro) and I'll probably be disappointed that it will probably only come with an NVME drive prefitted, and I'm going to want to put in an AI card, so I still probably won't buy. (And then I suddenly remember that the officially supported one is the Hailo card, which doesn't even use NVME, so the A500 is already obsolete.)

[@amcadam26]

@@nialltracey2599 Another vote for the 500+ here. (Had the Amiga 500+ so it has sentimental value to me)

[@farishanafiah8461]

M.2 SSD can get really hot, and this kind of compact design can be a problem for heat dissipation. As for micro HDMI, I see loads of Windows tablets with it. Even Lenovo put it on their Yoga Tab 13 Android tablet.

[@nialltracey2599]

@ yes, but MicroHDMI is still far from common. If people want to buy a computer to plug into a TV for their kids to use, they're might have spare HDMI cables around, but neither end is likely to use a micro plug...

[@BillyNoMates1974]

brilliant. I can see a shed load of Pi 500 being sold as its a lot of bang for buck. only a few quid more for having a keyboard and heat sink included too

[@BillyNoMates1974]

the monitor isnt a bad idea neither. Run the whole lot off a power bank. hmm

[@adolfkudlinski]

Wow finally it manages to play youtube videos without the problems. I have Pi400 and its not so pleasant to use as a daily driver ..

[@John-cn8jv]

I also have pi 400, It's my go to when win11 starts to drive me batty. No problems with KZbin playback. Maybe no problems happens because I'm closer to KZbin mother ship?

[@bokami3445]

Nice see the PI500 & Display are kitty approved

[@patricktrakzel9657]

Making a Hello Kitty mod. Thanks for the idea kitty.

[@forgottenbuttreasuredgames7108]

well I finally know what I want for the holidays, that monitor! nicely done love the review.

[@shawnlowe1392]

Pi 500 +.....yes, please! Great video

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

On the day that something new comes out when people then post comments in here asking for something even newer to come out, I sit here shaking my head and laughing simultaneously.

[@daves4026]

great video. great to see the heat sink and no fan

[@alevans51]

Excellent review. Its mysterious as to why a person thinks they need to pry the thing apart. It should perform well with nothing to do but check temperature under overclock conditions.

[@Wythaneye]

One minor change that is an actual improvement, note the location of the USB 2.0 port. On the Pi400 it's all the way on the left side, which means right-handed people have to run the (short) mouse cord all the way across the Pi400. It doesn't leave a lot of room for movement. By moving it to the right side, they've given us a lot more freedom in the mouse cord.

[@digitalmediafan]

I'll wait for the + version with M.2 ! Surety they could have soldered an M.2 slot on only for an extra £10 ? Are you cat's brothers ?! They look like twins to me !

[@nikobellic570]

Thx for showing this. It's almost a laptop and would've been the most elegant, convenient pi gadget. But i guess those would push the price up way higher. Modular components can be swapped around with other computers too. There looks like therell be another Pi 500 next yr with m.2, depending on demand

[@seanriley8523]

Just bought pironman 5 for Christmas, I wish I'd waited. Another great video 👍👍👍

[@alanr1062]

I’ve got mine on order from Pimoroni. Can’t wait 😛

[@kenknight5983]

The 400 was my biggest piece of buyer's remorse. I got it home to find no av port and 2 mini hdmi ports (I bought it for crt gaming). I tried some of the attachments for scart and never got them working. I started having problems quickly with the mini hdmi ports, and asking some fellow pi users they stopped working completely. The Raspberry Pi Foundation is not listening to its user base. Most people want the regular hdmi ports back (I want the av port back), and a lot of people want them to branch out into risc v models

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

"The 400 was my biggest piece of buyer's remorse. I got it home to find no av port and 2 mini hdmi ports (I bought it for crt gaming)." I don't wish to be rude but if you'd have done proper research up front, then surely you'd have known that before you purchased it. "I tried some of the attachments for scart and never got them working." Again, proper research would indicate to you that HDMI to SCART conversion usually involves a degree of latency, something you DON'T want for most kinds of gaming. "I started having problems quickly with the mini hdmi ports, and asking some fellow pi users they stopped working completely." Maybe plugging in and out SCART converters caused that damage? You can't rule that out here, especially with cheap Chinese electronics where protection circuitry probably isn't there in the first place. "The Raspberry Pi Foundation is not listening to its user base." How many times have you contacted them yourself suggesting design changes they could make? Forget about what you think others do and don't want, what have you done to request change? And maybe there is other hardware you can make use of instead? There's plenty of alternative hardware around if you learn how to put Linux on it. "Most people want the regular hdmi ports back (I want the av port back)" I personally don't care about mini HDMI ports, particularly when having multiple HDMI ports side-by-side that may restrict plugs of a certain size going into them. I can't speak for "most people" because I don't have access to the contents of their minds. Clearly you think that you do. "and a lot of people want them to branch out into risc v models" But you don't mean that, do you? There are already a few RISC-V boards available for you to start playing with, nothing stops you doing that except you expecting an identical situation to what you have with ARM-based Pi boards - namely someone to make step-by-step videos showing you what to do with them without you having to learn how to do things yourself. Unfortunately, that's just the way it is with a hobbyist maker board turning into a "near consumer " device because of the great support around it - but I bet if I gave most people here an Orange Pi and said "put Linux on it", they wouldn't know where to start without a video showing them.

[@kenknight5983]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 I did get an Orange Pi 800 and it's serving me better. The main issue with those mini hdmi ports is they KEEP BREAKING. People are complaining about them for a reason. Yes I should have done my research before buying the machine, but there was no warning that they were changing the ports (at least not a very prominent one). I went in expecting the same ports as the previous models and got a very rude awakening when I got home (especially as I don't have much money). Using it then through hdmi, the main port started playing up quickly, then I had to resort to the low resolution second port. If I had got one of the analogue tv hats working, there are only a few distros that actually support it, each with their limitations in emulation. People have been complaining about the mini hdmi ports since the pi 4, and the Raspberry Pi Foundation isn't listening. When I bought it during lockdown, the 400 was the only model available, and I quickly found out why. Anything that the Raspberry Pi Foundation neglects to do only fuels other makers to give us alternatives such as the Orange Pi

[@raggersragnarsson6255]

I like my Pi400. I have thought of connecting it to a CRT which is a nice idea. There has a to be a way somehow. Does an HDMI to Scart converter not work as I haven't tried it?

[@kenknight5983]

@@raggersragnarsson6255 I haven't gone down that route but I have tried hdmi to rca. It had the smooth movement but lacked the vibrant image.(might have just been the converter though)

[@raggersragnarsson6255]

@@kenknight5983 nice. I normally just use a TFT rather than one of my old CRTs as they are for my old consoles. My PC is what I normally use for retro gaming. I use one of the chinesium 500gig RetroBat hard drives with 38000 games. Recommended as it saved me hours of finding files to set it up. My Pi400 is mainly for exploring Linux and it's uses.

[@terryboyle]

looks great. thank you for the review

[@GraphicalRanger]

Nice! Like the new screen but prehaps added touch would have been icing. Strange to but space for nvme and release it knowing everyone is going to talk about that. May RPiFoundation should note the 'will' be two models.

[@tubegor]

When to expect video? How to solder the connector for M.2 in Pi 500?

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

It's not just about soldering in a connector - maybe the firmware doesn't support NVME yet. And why don't you have a go at doing that, it's called "experimentation", it's one of the main reasons Raspberry Pi's were created in the first place.

[@arch1107]

if they didnt put the connector it me

[@tubegor]

@@arch1107 Jeff Geerling has already soldered the connectors and found the missing power supply. From my point of view, the missing m.2 is a disaster. I hope PI 500+ will definitely get it.

[@arch1107]

@@tubegor i doubt it is as simple as find and solder, clearly on some moment it was decided to not add it, so it is not just add solder, flux and solder things but tells me they want to add the option in a near future, so pi6 might have this, which is good

[@tubegor]

@@arch1107I don't want this without M.2, waiting is without a doubt good advice.

[@nnasab]

I wish they had the m.2 active on this pi 500. I would have bought some for the neighborhood kids as Christmas presents.

[@johncrwarner]

I like the display as at the moment I use a screen propped up on an old tablet / book stand When will it be available?

[@leepspvideo]

Now www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-monitor/

[@dna9838]

Is it a Sony panel? Asking because that would kind of make sense given the arrangement RPi have to use the production line in the sony factory in south wales.

[@akfreed6949]

I can see adding a couple little fans , instead of just using only one , like when you tested a fan on the pi 400 . If there will be similar ducts like on the pi 400 . An input on one side and output on the other .

[@akfreed6949]

Update . Just got a 500 . Still need a power supply . Going to add a couple fans . Input left side output right side . And maybe a piece of cardboard in the middle to help spread cool air in.

[@Sithhy]

One thing that would've been a great addition to the Pi500 (or Pi600) is an integrated touchpad, like some wireless keyboards have. It still would be compact but you wouldn't need to make more space on your desk (or wherever) to account for mouse movement

[@craigavonvideo]

Interesting product, although the lack of full size HDMI ports is poor as there is plenty of space on the board (unlike the credit card sized Pi5) and they are far more durable. Not that bothered about NVMe as I don't use that on anything anyway. In fact I actually like SD cards as you basically end up with a new computer every time you insert a different one! My biggest gripe is that the Pi 5 (and now 500) don't support booting into older versions of Raspbian as I have a collection of projects using various versions assembled over the years. In fact I have a Pi 5 that I never use (apart from occasional testing) and much prefer the 4 or the Zero2. I even bought a Pi 400 brand new from Ebay for £48 delivered in the summer. I wonder now that once you add on the perciperals will the cost of a 500 be much different to the new cheap Chinese mini PCs that are flooding the market at the moment which would give "bigger bang for the buck".

[@LilRedDog]

It is strange that they made a cut out for the M.2 in the heatsink and all the power and M.2 pads are on the board... Almost like RPi is saying "we are still cool and if you want you can tinker and put all the necessary modules in for M.2".

[@sleepydog4205]

the raspberry hub is also pretty good for that setup

[@CyberDunk2077]

Looks like a great product!. Glad I watched this before I bought one though as I would like the NVMe socket populated even though I could solder one on myself. That screen is a must buy for me. ( if they didn’t sell out in half a minute) probably a good thing as pimoroni have already taken all of this months tinkering money with their BF/CM deals…

[@vietho_es]

oh I'm waiting for tthat

[@darrenturnbull7250]

Why no earphone jack

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

Because the primary routing for audio is via HDMI which you can then usually split off from the back of your monitor in an audio jack anyway. It's different when an "all-in-one" device (i.e. with built in screen and speakers, like a mobile phone or tablet) doesn't have an audio jack but if you've got USB then just get USB headphones or speakers.

[@farishanafiah8461]

Because it's on the display.

[@antinatalope]

So, I wouldn't have to unplug it anymore? I have a 400 right now.

[@bertvantol9669]

When the M2-NVMe slot works, I buy one directly !!

[@perfectlyroundcircle]

I liked this video just for the cat.

[@FAT8893]

This might sound crazy, but I somehow wanted to try out the Pi 500 with an Xreal/Rokid/RayNeo/Viture AR glasses. I don't have much expectation for head tracking in Linux OS, but having a huge external display from those AR glasses is already tempting enough for me.

[@joe.tiziano]

What is the brand and model of the bluetooth keyboard? Awesome video.

[@leepspvideo]

@@joe.tiziano 75% Keyboard / mouse amzn.to/3w4uA4F

[@GregoryMcLean]

LOL... kitty is like look at ME!

[@router5840]

Shame no Nvme could you make it boot from an external one and possibly fit it inside?

[@MagnusHellebergIld]

What is the name of your desktop background file. The picture of the skating rpi nerd? Really cool !

[@leepspvideo]

@@MagnusHellebergIld I Created it with this Creating free AI images with Microsoft Copilot kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKibdICZm9icoqs I include several in this build KDE Plasma on Raspberry Pi. Black screen fix for latest Raspberry Pi OS Labwc update kzbin.info/www/bejne/emOviGqbiJejq6c

[@MagnusHellebergIld]

@leepspvideo thanx a lot!

[@Ephesians-612]

monitor looks nice

[@superangrybrit]

Kitties made the video even better. 😁

[@hernansoto4903]

Would be nice to get a Raspberry 500 model attached (inside) of screen instead of keyboard. The screen in the most of the case of uses still in the same place but keyboard and mouse is something that you need to move all the time in a range more far that cables (HDMI /Power). Said that, I don't understand the point of attach the raspberry in the keyboard. Nice review!

[@clangerbasher]

I would like to see a black version. As for the lack of NVME gubbins and cost I speculated when the 400 came out there is a market for an enthusiasts version with much higher spec that could be a bit of a money spinner for the RPi Foundation. Something with a decentish keyboard etc. and GPIO accessible through a hinged hatch say.

[@JohnRichardson-lk8pp]

Can you use 1x USB to both power the monitor and for OTG video signal, say from a Samsung Galaxy device that has Dex?

[@mikerhodes9198]

How long will it take for someone to populate the board with parts to get operational NVMe memory?

[@Michele5623]

I'm really interested in both the RPI 500, the monitor and the additional board for the raspberry pi zero 2w. What are the prices?

[@leepspvideo]

Links here www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-500-and-raspberry-pi-monitor-on-sale-now/ Zero 2w on Amazon amzn.to/4gs2cuI

[@FalconWing1813]

Nice would be cool if we could do a NVMe thru the GPIO pins. OR thru USB

[@timothywatkins3011]

Merge keyboard with screen , two hinge joints , Nvme and blade battery under keyboard. Maybe ?

[@littlejohn2708]

Without the NVME port user may as well stay with the 400 if they have one and wait. The 15-Inch monitor is interesting.

[@stephenvalente3296]

I went straight to the Pi Hut site after their email popped up. Decided to hold off until the complete pack available. Glad I did as soon as I saw they’d not populated the board with the NVMe hardware. That’s nuts, as unlike the Pi 5, there’s no other way to add an NVMe SSD with that level of performance to the Pi 500. Hopefully they’ll release a Pi 550, Pro, etc. or similar later on. Otherwise I’d probably have given in and bought the Pi 500 kit as separate parts today were it not for the omission of NVMe.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

I think you're all too obsessed with NVME anyway. If you're going to try to crowbar a bloated and privacy-hating OS like Windows on a Raspberry Pi and then do something stupid like trying to run modern Windows games on it, then I guess you need all the help you can get from your hardware (as well as for your stupidity). I run optimised Linux versions on my Pi and I see no speed issues with USB 3.0 drives - plus you've got more flexibility "chopping and changing" also.

[@farishanafiah8461]

I can live without it, especially since you can still install fydeOS in RPi5. But M.2 SSD option would be a nice addition.

[@Nodster]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 how on earth did you go from people wanting NVMe to people trying to crowbar windows on to a pi? those are not even remotely the same thing for a comparison, also you basically just implied everyone is stupid because of the way you worded that entire sentence. Only a minority are really going to push the limits of what a pi can do anyway. It's great that you have the flexibility of "chopping and changing" your usb 3.0 connected drives as you desire but having the option of using an NVMe drive also falls under that same flexibility you talk about regardless of your opinion. It's not always about speed at the end of the day and for me personally it would be nice to have the ability to slot in an NVMe OR even an internal sata SSD because it is one less item taking up space, one less cable etc etc when traveling. As for you using an optimized Linux.... good for you, your point? I also use Linux so what? You can keep pushing your rhetoric about windows all you want but at the end of the day is any one actually listening to you about it? no, no they are not because people are going to continue to use what they know regardless of your rhetoric and that is ok but they will also view you as another one of those Linux elites trying to push your unwanted opinion on them.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@@Nodster "ow on earth did you go from people wanting NVMe to people trying to crowbar windows on to a pi?" So people don't crowbar Windows onto a Pi ever? Even though Lee here makes quite a few videos about it and I take the mickey out of him. Do you watch his videos? " those are not even remotely the same thing for a comparison, also you basically just implied everyone is stupid because of the way you worded that entire sentence." That's subjective opinion on your part. You are welcome to it, I can ignore it. Next point. "Only a minority are really going to push the limits of what a pi can do anyway." That statement means nothing. Please don't lower arguments to school playground level by making "me and my big gang of pretend Internet mates" points. You have access to the contents of your own mind only, express your opinions, not what you believe others' opinions are. "It's great that you have the flexibility of "chopping and changing" your usb 3.0 connected drives as you desire but having the option of using an NVMe drive also falls under that same flexibility you talk about regardless of your opinion." This is not a relevant point because whether or not you approve of how I use USB 3.0 drives is of, again, no relevance to this conversation. "It's not always about speed at the end of the day and for me personally it would be nice to have the ability to slot in an NVMe OR even an internal sata SSD because it is one less item taking up space, one less cable etc etc when traveling." Yes, I already said that it's not about speed - and if you've not got space to plug in a tiny USB drive, you need a bigger home RAPIDLY. NVME connectors or boards are not designed to be swapped in and out constantly, you'll end up damaging them - especially through static electricity. Don't they teach basic electronics principles in school any more? "As for you using an optimized Linux.... good for you, your point? I also use Linux so what?" I'm sorry you're so "hard of thinking". If something is "optimised" then it probably works a lot better than something that "isn't optimised". It's a simple comparitive statement, don't they teach those in English grammar in school any more? "You can keep pushing your rhetoric about windows all you want but at the end of the day is any one actually listening to you about it?" This is a public discussion forum, I post my opinions here like anyone else does. Now you're suggesting those comments need to be approved by people like you first to ensure they meet your "editorial standards". And then you just look silly and lacking in self awareness. "no, no they are not because people are going to continue to use what they know regardless of your rhetoric and that is ok." So what? People keep smoking even though they're told constantly it's bad for their health. As far as I am concerned, when they are warned about it then "job done". They can decide to heed the advice or not. I can sleep soundly knowing I have given the advice. "no, no they are not because people are going to continue to use what they know regardless of your rhetoric and that is ok " Here we go again - it always ends in "elitist", "gate keeper" or "toxic Linux community" just because you're jealous of people that you think understand it better than you do but you can't be bothered to put in the correct time and effort to become better at it. That's your problem, not mine.

[@leongt1954]

Dose the cat come with it 😊😊

[@SuperAjej]

Looks like the cm5 is out now as well

[@leepspvideo]

@@SuperAjej cm5 was released sooner. I have one being sent to me by Emtec

[@blakecasimir]

I'd really like to see a Pi 550: 16GB RAM + NVME. I expect this to bump up the price further of course, but that would be a very desirable option imho.

[@jim-xi1ml]

I'm here before jeff

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

Jeff who?

[@jim-xi1ml]

Gerling

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@jim-xi1ml Who? Is he a footballer or a singer or something?

[@CyberDunk2077]

Everyone knows JeffyG!

[@bertvantol9669]

Have you tried Twister OS on the Pi 500 ???

[@leepspvideo]

Yes, it’s the os in the thumbnail. I used the one I adapted for Pi 5 in this video How to run an unsupported OS on Raspberry Pi 5 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZ7JgWSnebpga9U I just need to add a Pi 500 file

[@Sanddancer75]

Shame they've not done a keyboard with CM slot, to make it a bit more futureproof. Also, the monitor should have stand-offs on the back to attach a standard Pi.

[@soullessreape5947]

Will be getting the pi 500 along with the monitor. Already have raspberry pi 5 with and keyboard and mouse. there was always going to be a raspberry pi 500 after the success of the pi 400 model.

[@nikobellic570]

It's insane to me that displays can be powered from a mini pc theae days. Old-type CRT monitors used to be so power hungry and so were early lcd displays

[@richardallen5488]

100 bonus cat dad points

[@JohnWindberg]

I'll be waiting for the Raspberry Pi 5XX, which actually has the m.2 slot

[@91722854]

10:27, what mechanical keyboard is this?

[@leepspvideo]

75% Keyboard / mouse amzn.to/3U8MF9D

[@3dhYT]

It's a pity that there is no NVMe. I won't buy an RPi 500 without it.

[@markusfischhaber8178]

to bad ist has those mini hdmi things and no nvme..

[@jose-pb6yf]

How much screen lag for classic emulation(Snes, cps1 and 2, neo geo..)? Thank you!!

[@valuemastery]

Damn. Waiting for the version with M.2 slot.

[@EternalSaber]

What are all of the OSs featured in the video? I know the last one is Raspberry Pi OS put I have no idea what the others are, including the one in the thumbnail.

[@leepspvideo]

@@EternalSaber Twister os in XP mode How to run an unsupported OS on Raspberry Pi 5 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZ7JgWSnebpga9U My version of KDE Plasma KDE Plasma Pi 5 kzbin.info/aero/PLMJAjiTgBtFnJ4563mevOckNsz5Cm45LH Older version or Raspberry Pi OS I used in this video with the TV hat Raspberry Pi portable TV Recorder. Pi TV HAT kzbin.info/www/bejne/mouzpIJ9ZdiCptk

[@ogdan1173]

Hello. Does waydroid can support touchscreen monitor gestures? Idk this program can run on arm devices, but is supported on x86_64 bit.

[@leepspvideo]

I haven’t had success with Waydroid on Pi. I did get close, might try again soon. Works great on X64

[@ogdan1173]

​@@leepspvideo I just want to see someone play​ing supertuxkart or pubg mobe without mouse and keyboard.

[@elokjerside8680]

Would the pi 500 be fast with an external ssd to boot on an work?

[@leepspvideo]

Thursdays video is about faster storage options

[@elokjerside8680]

@@leepspvideo I remember that the Amiga 600 had 20mb Hdd.....sooo maybe the PI 600 will have a HDD.....

[@johnbee1574]

Why on earth didn’t they use full size hdmi 1:10

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

And if they put full size HDMI in, people would complain "why didn't they make it the same as Pi 5, now I have to buy converters". Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

[@ianpallister-yl6sr]

hey which os are you running thank you

[@leepspvideo]

@@ianpallister-yl6sr kde plasma. I haven’t heard anything a playlist KDE Plasma Pi 5 kzbin.info/aero/PLMJAjiTgBtFnJ4563mevOckNsz5Cm45LH Download link in the description

[@ianpallister-yl6sr]

@@leepspvideo thank you for your very quick reply hope you have a great day thanks

[@Turtle_Zed]

I think it’s still a ‘work in progress’. It will be fine when it’s completed but there will be many incremental improvements before then.

[@earlysda]

No price points?

[@leepspvideo]

@@earlysda the first link in the description takes you to the official site. Click on the product and you will be shown retailers in your area

[@ddrfraser1]

What start icon is that?

[@leepspvideo]

It’s one I picked for my custom KDE plasma build KDE Plasma Pi 5 kzbin.info/aero/PLMJAjiTgBtFnJ4563mevOckNsz5Cm45LH

[@ddrfraser1]

@@leepspvideo Thank you! I assumed you had a video like this but couldn't find it :)

[@lee99bay]

❤

[@jim-xi1ml]

I need some help on my pi 5 I have raspberry pi is on it but no matter what I do some of the keys are switched around like for # I get on the this £ on my raspberry pi 5

[@ShadowDSi]

What os is this and where can I get?

[@leepspvideo]

@@ShadowDSi How to run an unsupported OS on Raspberry Pi 5 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZ7JgWSnebpga9U Or KDE Plasma Pi 5 kzbin.info/aero/PLMJAjiTgBtFnJ4563mevOckNsz5Cm45LH

[@Andreas_Willamette]

can't find raspberry pi display in russia plz send it here

[@nikobellic570]

Monitor's really impressive. Black colour would have been better and speakers are absolutely basic and minimal

[@raggersragnarsson6255]

Hook it up to some proper speakers and it should be good. I see this as a mobile product as well. Handy for taking away from home with a load of retro games.

[@Jenkem254]

Once it has populated nvme, I'll buy one...

[@rememberthis3592]

Very nice pi500. Now they can do an upgraded version with the nvme (pi500+), and even a better upgrade pi500 pro that is a laptop (with nvme and a screen) even it goes too 250bucks, is a budget clean solution for begginers and for those who doesnt need much "horsepower" on a computer.

[@Nozzred]

The extra cost of an M.2 port in production is really low. There are a lot of people that have upgraded there PC to bigger and faster nvme and have spare just collecting dust.

[@reznikovpaul6217]

Very Nice!

[@tamphex]

No doubt they had to leave out a few bits & bops to keep the manufacturing cost & consumer price down. I'm betting on my nanna's teeth that PI 600 will be a beast.

[@rugan0723]

Give me an M.2 socket and I will buy this. I'd like full size HDMI ports as well.

[@SB-qm5wg]

no nvme, ouch

[@chandrasivaram]

Raspberry Pi team should sell Pi 500 + Monitor as laptop, without battery, while adding nvme slot.

[@Wythaneye]

The Orange Pi 800 addressed the two biggest complaints that I have about the Pi400, by providing a headphone jack and full sized HDMI. I had higher hopes for the Pi500. The Pi500 could have been redemption for the Pi400, but alas, it falls flat. New processor, otherwise the same old problems. That monitor looks nice though.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

I was holding out for the new ZX Spectrum but just ordered the Pi 500 instead as it will do all the ZX Spectrum will do and a whole lot more - a good pre-Christmas surprise. Nice monitor also. The space for NVME is interesting, presumably they're leaving their options open for a pre-populated version going forward but, like you said, at what price point? I'm not sure I care about NVME on the Pi, external USB 3.0 drives are perfectly fine in my experience and give you more flexibility. I'm not one of these people that plays "Top Trumps" with their computers on Reddit, constantly looking for the biggest numbers all the time (most Ryzen cores, most gimmicky 4K monitors used simultaneously, most kidneys donated by mummy and daddy to buy me that new overpriced NVIDIA GPU for Christmas, etc. etc.) If a computer system "feels" fast enough, then I am generally happy and I've no issue with USB 3.0 drives because what OS you use and how optimised it is is more important anyway. I'm also glad they've managed to keep the price down to close to the Pi 400 - less than £100 for an "Amiga-like" computing platform with built-in keyboard is not bad at all.

[@SpeccyMan]

The "new" ZX Spectrum? Perhaps you mean The Spectrum.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@@SpeccyMan I think you know what I mean anyway. I think you're trying to be pedantic and kick off an argument over verbal semantics - which I am happy to do on occasions where there may be a need to explain my words better. But I also credit you with enough intelligence to know that is not necessary in this instance. Now, do you actually have a point to make here?

[@The-Scots-man]

They will wait until everyone has one then release one with nvme so we buy again.

[@suminshizzles6951]

Using 10 watts of power for a near desktop replacement when not playing modern games is ok with. My linux machine GPU uses up to 170 when on ful load playing games. Played my first AAA game on linux this week. I was over the moon. Tomb Raider reboot from 2013. Linux.....here i come.

[@Sherlock385]

Unfortunately, the lack of M.2 port is a deal breaker for me

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

...and then if they put an M.2 port on it and upped the price by £15, you'd be complaining that "the price is a deal breaker for me".

[@Sherlock385]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 nope, I'd be willing to pay up to 150€

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@@Sherlock385 It's not worth that. When you get to £100+ (100€+), you will get far better value by picking up a used SFF PC online, a HP EliteDesk mini PC of the right model will have NVME built in. And, again, I have to ask the same question - if lack of NVME is a "deal breaker" for you, what did you did you do on computers before NVME came out?

[@Sherlock385]

​@@terrydaktyllus1320 Again nope, because I like the fact that it is integrated into a keyboard. I already have about 10 different Pis and one Pi400. "what did you did I do on computers before NVME came out" - is a silly question - been connecting SSDs by other means, of course ... but the Pi500 should be an ideal platform for an integrated SSD that doesn't need to be attached externally, so that's the main reason for my disappointment.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@@Sherlock385 ​"Again nope, because I like the fact that it is integrated into a keyboard." So what? I think you're setting your expectations too high anyway, for what is supposed to be a cheap computing device for makers. "I already have about 10 different Pis and one Pi400." I wasn't aware that this discussion was about "comparing manhood sizes" but I probably have somewhere in the region of 50+ SBCs that include all Raspberry Pi models as well as Orange Pi's, Banana Pi's, Asus Tinker Board, Atomic Pi, a few Olimex boards and even a few more you probably haven't heard of. A lot of them run my custom Gentoo Linux builds on them, an OS I have been using as my main OS since 2003. ""what did you did I do on computers before NVME came out" - is a silly question" No, it exposes YOU as being a bit silly if you make a statement like "not having NVME is a deal breaker". So, again, what did you do with your computers before NVME, especially with that clearly "impressive" collection of Pi's you have, most of which didn't support NVME anyway? You seem incapable of telling me "why". "but the Pi500 should be an ideal platform for an integrated SSD that doesn't need to be attached externally, so that's the main reason for my disappointment." Why do you need an integrated SSD? You're making the same point again without explaining why you need it? I am a computer engineer, I am interested in these kinds of discussions with people. I think too many people are NOT engineers in an ecosystem of maker boards where engineering should be at the core and they therefore expect everything to be crammed onto these devices because they don't understand the concepts of working out first what you need to do with the computing platform you are about to build before designing it accordingly - for example, someone using a Pi to, say, drive a 3D printer or weather station probably doesn't care about NVME. However, some "non engineer" trying to crowbar bloated and privacy-hating Windows onto a Pi just in an attempt to play "Starfailed" or "Cybersplatt 4044" on it probably needs all the hardware help they can get (and also training in computer systems engineering).