Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous Bloodrager Bloodlines Deep Dive - 21 bloodlines

[@TheBobolicious]

Now THIS is a class guide. Have a sub, sir!

[@LeeroyGaming]

Much appreciated:) more to come soon :)

[@Majber]

Great depth

[@raginhomosapien]

thank you

[@olivierklein762]

Great dive into bloodrager bloodlines. Some seem so cool, my favorite would be arcane most likely. Elemental seem to be specialized for two-weapon fighting to maximise elemental damage (air being a trap as demons are immune to electricity). Serpentine also seem very cool but i saw on plauthroughs so many undead (immune to poison) and demons (i don't know if they are immune or if they have so kind of resistance). Still the bite attack is an extra attack while claws repl1ce your weapons and the extra reach is HUGE especially if you take a glaive or other reach weapon...

[@LeeroyGaming]

I agree that arcane was a surprise hit for me. I still have a personal bias toward draconic, but outside of the poison concerns serpentine sounds sooo cool thematically.

[@lol3xtrach3353]

Not as bad as it might seem because you can pick Ascendant Element as a mythic power which lets you bypass resistance/immunity for one element. If you were to build a lightning damage build you might suffer a bit in the early game until you get your mythic powers but after that you'd be fine.

[@LordSerion]

Aberrant is not in game (yet?) but in TT it can be hilarious. You can get 25 feet reach, literally slapping someone from across the room. Crossblooded Aberrant/Arcane Steelblooded tank with glaive can be absolutely brutal.

[@LeeroyGaming]

In my experience, in both D&D and Pathfinder, there are a lot of opportunities to abuse/break the game with the various synergistic reach mechanics. That is the boon and curse of Pathfinder in particular. Tons and tons of options, leading to may under powered as well as overpowered build possibilities.

[@Majber]

I would like to see viability analysis of Assasin vs continuation of just plain Knife Master rogue

[@LeeroyGaming]

I will take a look at this and provide some feedback when I do my deep dive for rogue. As mentioned in my videos, I am prioritizing what people request so I will bump up rogue analysis on the priority chain. As general feedback on owlcats approach to pathfinder; they are doing an amazing implementing just about everything, however, just like in the paper and pencil variant, not all options are created equal. In fact, some are only situationally viable or just plain weak and only there for flavor. I still like that they are there for flavor though as not everybody powergames. A big part of it is living out a fantasy.

[@Seelenverheizer]

the snakeboi will be tripy AF if there is a cloak of the winter wolf

[@LeeroyGaming]

Haha. Love it. Snake transformation is pretty cool.

[@cuspofexposure8242]

Also can you go double serpent and affect two attributes? Are they the same bite attack or do they stack? That would be pretty crazy. Especially on a dex natural attacker build. Also you can start off as a monk and switch your alignment then go barbarian and loose nothing and vice-versa. So 1 lvl monk scaled fist, then 2 lvls instinctual barbarian for; dex, wisdom and charisma to AC.

[@RickysSalt]

Incorporeal Bloodrager how long dose it last...if it last all day then it will be great

[@MrStatistx]

Does the Serpentine Fang stack somehow with that one spider Qlippoth Tiefling Heritage?

[@cuspofexposure8242]

I would like to see you go undead in both to see if they stack. Because in table top DR/- stacks, if I am not mistaken. Thats might just be a barbarian thing though.

[@LeeroyGaming]

It seems like from my testing it took the greater of the two. It seems it only stacks if the description says so. Like with barbarian DR ranks

[@themagescorner]

I'm going for undead Bloodrager for my tank. Reason? Wanna debuff the shit out of the enemies, shaken gives -2 saves... add hexes from witch/shaman, and then outright kill enemies with save or die or save or suck spells lol

[@olivierklein762]

Dragon bloodline seem cool but maybe lacks the versatility. Fey bloodline intrigues me, i guess you need scimitars or rapiers for high critical range. And of course the angelic bloodline seem specialized for the campaign as it is going to rampage through demons with their very specialized bonuses vs evil outsiders.

[@LeeroyGaming]

Yea, just like the first game was filled with fey, this one is filled with demons (plus angelic mythic pathways seems to be one of the two main default mythic paths). I’m curious to see what dragon focused features the Golden Dragon Mythic Pathway provides and if it synergies with dragon bloodlines. Time will tell :) FYI I did a video going over all of the deities and domains. Will be posted tomorrow. Almost lost my voice cause there was so much content ha!

[@colinsmith1495]

When you have time, I'd love to see the options for a Natural Attack build. I know there's druid shapeshifting, one Warpriest archetype, some Alchemist mutagens, Barbarian rage powers, and bloodlines, but what would you say is the optimal build with the available options? Any racial interplay? Kingmaker had one Tiefling that could get a bite attack. Can the Dhamphir or Kitsune get any? Any other sources for bites? Also, Snowball is a BRUTAL spell at lower levels. 1d6 cold damge PER CASTER LEVEL at range as a touch attack. It caps at lvl 5, but that matches the other most poweful first level damage spell: Shocking Grasp, but this one is at range!

[@LeeroyGaming]

We’ve had a few convos about natural attack builds and melee builds. You definitely have to get very specific in order to make it end game viable. May have to put together something and make a video for it. It’s very easy to fall behind versus traditional martial characters using powerful weapons as how do you balance natural attacks versus ones that require rare/powerful weapons.

[@ajimzhao7502]

How to use claw, do we have to unequip weapon first?

[@LeeroyGaming]

Yes

[@nightwing367]

Ghost touch allows you to touch ghosts

[@Majber]

Is there in Wrath any feat or mythic power or sth that allow rogue to do sneak attacks on enemies that are normally immune to sneak attack? For example undead

[@LeeroyGaming]

So far I have not seen any abilities, mythic or otherwise, that bypass sneak attack immunities. IF there were any I would assume they would have to be mythic as it would be way overpowered for a normal feat. As they complete/add the mythic content I will do deep dives for all of the mythic feats/abilities/upgrades and let you know. But my best educated guess will be that sneak attack immune creatures will remain immune.

[@neiljopling4693]

Ten levels of Student of War should do it because crit immunity and sneak attack immunity are tied (at least in PnP).

[@ChanceRiddle]

Celestial seems to be the best to me, for this game anyway, I think'd they'd have been quite bad in Kingmaker. Demons (at least in the table top) are immune to poison and shock damage, they also have 10 resistance to acid, cold, and fire so the dragon and elemental ones (including the infernal one) don't seem that good. Arcane does seem nice though. Also the fey bloodline doesn't seem that good for the spells, bloodragers only get up to spell 4 so most enemies will pass their saving throw, although with a crit build although the other abilities it gets does seem to be good. Would you be willing to show the list of spells available to each class?

[@LeeroyGaming]

That is part of the plan but I want to get initial coverage for all the classes first.

[@ChanceRiddle]

@@LeeroyGaming ok, thank you for all the videos.

[@colinsmith1495]

That being said, there's a mythic ability to ignore resistances and (I think) immunities to one element, so if you really want to play that elemental blaster sorcerer, you can take that as your first mythic ability.

[@LeeroyGaming]

@@colinsmith1495 ascendant element at 5:24 of my mythic ability video :) bypass all resistances and immunity of a selected elemental type.

[@colinsmith1495]

@@LeeroyGaming Absolutely, and thanks for the detailed breakdown of options like that! A lot of people are covering base classes, archetypes, mythic paths, etc, but a lot just do a brief review of options. An in-depth deep dive on mythic abilities, mythic feats, regular feats, etc is great!

[@cuspofexposure8242]

So I have just found out I can get 6 different bloodlines.

[@LeeroyGaming]

You counting dragons as one? Elementals as one?

[@cuspofexposure8242]

@@LeeroyGaming yes, I usually go angle and a fire element first as a crossblood sorcerer. Thats 2. That way I have immunity to sneak attacks, critical hits, acid, cold petrification, and either fire or electricity. But if you go abyss you get poison and electricity immunity. So angle and abyss then as a mythic feat get a element. But after watching all of your videos I will now go 1 lvl bloodrager and get my element; because of the elemental energy attack constantly being on. Then Dragon disciple electric thats 3. Then go mythic second sorcerer bloodline that is 4. But now you have shown me how to get 2 more; with bloodrager. And the bloodrager elements are better than the sorcerer's. And the serpentine bloodrager one is just stupid OP. And arcane capstone is just the best thing I have ever seen. What if you get the teleport if they hit you with a spell mythic ability+ combat reflexs; then HELLO!! AUTO FAIL THAT CASTER CHECK! Imma hit you now.