Leffen vs Tweek - Singles: Losers Round 1 - Ultimate Summit 2 | Pokemon Trainer vs Pokemon Trainer

[@Def_Not_Batman]

LOL "Is Tweek the Melee player?" Keitaro roasting his dear friend while he gets beat

[@botanicalabe]

I think Tweek got angry at Keitaro for that. Tweek tweeted that his closest friends were treating him like shit and it’s probably Keitaro

[@heinzketchup14]

That comment cracked me up. Is tweek the melee player ?? as if a melee player is supposed to be inferior ? but the results say....

[@invertedcrayon]

@@heinzketchup14 leffen is just too good

[@adamc5478]

@@botanicalabe Really its just small comment, its clearly things that happened to him before summit.

[@Aefax]

@@heinzketchup14 ultimate players are way more anti-melee than melee players are anti-ultimate and it shows lol

[@SamWeltzin]

I'm just picturing that scene from Pokemon: The First Movie where all these characters and their clones are slapping each other with tears in their eyes.

[@devinbannish1469]

Brother, my brother

[@smexypoopss]

😭😭😭😭

[@michaelcollazo7911]

this comment needs more likes, seriously did tweek and leffen go twinsies .

[@JAMllostthegame]

@@devinbannish1469 tell me what are we fighting for? Isn't life worth so much more?

[@kbomb1663]

Those clones should have been alts for PT

[@krosshair450]

Gargantuan William clutched it out over Gigantamaxed Gavin Leff is reaching sizes that we thought were impossible

[@genesisosuna]

lmao

[@freemind9181]

Wumbo William

[@Aefax]

honestly wasnt even a clutch he just shat on him in that last game

[@jpoblete11]

@@Aefax but he win

[@Heebie-Deebies]

@@jpoblete11 I was about to say the same thing as Aefax. Clutch is generally when it is last hit and you barely win. Leffen 3 stocked Tweek.

[@Austin-jh7cf]

when leff won you can hear EE in the back go YO WHAT THE lmao

[@juliusdomingo2421]

LMAO

[@SeriousStriker]

I feel like Tweek getting 3-0'd by Leo yesterday messed him up really badly mentally. That said HUMONGOUS LEFF

[@fujinyumi5632]

Serious Striker No Johns. He still lost.

[@SeriousStriker]

I'm not Johning. You could tell Tweek was not great mentally, he SD'd a couple of times.

[@fujinyumi5632]

Serious Striker You’re Johning. I don’t care about tweek’s mentality-he still lost. He’s still a great player, and I’m sure he’ll do better in the future, but he lost. Stop coming up with excuses.

[@_maclaw]

Fujin Yumi *triggered*

[@fujinyumi5632]

iam maclaw I’m not triggered. The other guy is johning.

[@JoeSmith-db4rq]

One small step for Leff, one giant leap for Melee-kind

[@bleachigo990]

🤔

[@theinktician]

isnt it the other way around?

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@K D Wow someone is triggered

[@Klui_]

@K D Bruh

[@sebastiengarrigues6703]

@K D you are the kind of dumbass that makes us Melee fans look like stupid guys, please stop

[@genesisosuna]

COLOSSAL HJELTE He's probably gonna lose vs light

[@hermitvii5757]

I have high hopes. Armada took Light to game 5, imo Leff can take that.

[@chlomeursmasheur5144]

Genesis Osuna he is really good agaist fox

[@sauce8277]

LOL

[@oscarm6990]

Hearing Leffen explain his thought process compared to how the commentators explain things is a world of difference. Melee players are OP.

[@theimpersonator7086]

Big Leff strikes again. I hope this set doesn’t get Tweek to drop Trainer. Seems like all his trainer needs is some polish on Ivy and Zard, and a better mental game

[@TheRevolutionaryCafe]

I seriously doubt it, seeing how he lost a ditto to someone who understands the character very well and he personally finds them super fun

[@CristianGarcia]

Leffen got his hopes back on PM thanks to tweek winning a tournament with it, would de a shame.

[@Marcusjnmc]

he lost when he didn't know the match up as well as his opponent & being worse at aspects of the character than his opponent & being read while on tilt, he'll probably recognise the gap was on knowledge & practice, misplaying & mentality & those can all be overcome/ they're not character specific issues

[@chrislopez5301]

The Impersonator specifically his mental game above all else it always happens

[@dingo9696]

this was definitely not tweek at his best, hes got a history of playing much worse in losers. insane upset nonetheless.

[@femain1788]

Listening to Leffen commentary on a match is like looking into the head of a top player. He broke down what Tweek was going for and explained how he exploited it.

[@realDadlab]

Leffen has never looked so **huge** before.

[@ElDrHouse2010]

he has EVO 2018

[@Ergofoobikko]

This Leff was pretty big but Smash Con 2019 Leff was the biggest Leff.

[@katiieeardley]

he's a growing boy!

[@rickmoranisstan]

@@Ergofoobikko Evo leff tho

[@Ergofoobikko]

@Mason BC Evo Leff was big as fuck for sure, but SSC Leff 6-0'd Hungrybox in back to back sets, dropped only two games in the entire tournament (to two different people), played another game simultaneously where he placed 17th/2700 beating Salem and Maister, with basically zero matchup experience vs Mr GnW. He's also said he doesn't actually value EVO that much due to it being Bo3 so far into the bracket. (though I'm not sure if that was before he won it himself LUL)

[@botanicalabe]

Tweek’s biggest problem is his mentality. It’s like after a while, he doesn’t wanna play the game anymore.

[@aroncarbajal4922]

I don't think i've seen him pulling himself together after he's at 2 games of disadvantage

[@fupalover]

He's bitchmade

[@ecid1176]

Nah it is particularly when he goes to losers where his mentality hits him like a bag of bricks. He needs to get out of his own head.

[@zenbrown7144]

Yeah that's been his problem for sometime now. Look at EVO grands against MkLeo he lost that one before the final set even began.

[@botanicalabe]

Marcus Rondo he’s not bitchmade, he’s human. People get upset, get over it.

[@pao3755]

I'm really happy for Leffen in this one, but man I love these player both equally. Doesn't help the fact that they're both TSM. Feels kinda bad man.

[@TheMELLOWcheese]

Pretty much same person tbh

[@AlquimistEd]

It was still a great set and it went to game 5, couldn't ask for anything better imo.

[@TehWhiteTiger]

Tweek is the M2K of Ultimate, his biggest opponent is himself.

[@jonnybro7676]

And leo

[@willycheez7218]

@@jonnybro7676 He has found the solution to that problem. Diddy Kong.

[@justanaverage152]

@@willycheez7218 until leo figured it out again

[@willycheez7218]

@@justanaverage152 Yup

[@milkshakescoffeeandgames521]

@@willycheez7218 XD

[@zoysia4816]

OK LEFF THATS A LITTLE TOO HUGE

[@wlt3585]

Tweeks highs and lows are so defining. I hope he finds a good medium soon. Leffen and Armada are transitioning well into Ultimate, happy to see that. Edit: Leffens movement at 23:30 to 24:00 was amazing

[@mandalorianhunter1]

Battle of the trainers. Who is going to be the very best that no one ever was?

[@punzpunz6953]

Zero_OR 5 not to mention they’re sponsors are both TSM

[@uhpurpose]

@@punzpunz6953 he was going into the pokemon theme song...

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@Alexander Garcia Not really weird because it's bound to happen at some point

[@TMT98]

*like no one ever was

[@Omegascithe]

To play ultimate is their real test. To train themselves is their cause.

[@ayyylmao5668]

I come back to this set every now and then to remind myself of what Leffen could’ve been if he stuck with Ultimate

[@neverknowsbest.]

😔😔

[@ayase2992]

Sometimes Tweek looks like hes dead inside

[@luchodore]

he want on a twitter rant after this, so he was probably pretty upset

[@nathanlevesque7812]

that's a hurtful way to put it

[@unbatheduncle]

Now let’s see tweek vs leff in melee LOL

[@brandonbird1754]

Why? I think we all know what the result would be lol

[@nightraven5760]

@@brandonbird1754 hes saying leff beat tweek in his game now tweek should beat leff in his game

[@cuencapsn]

Ravne rather it’s probably tweek would also lose

[@ElDrHouse2010]

4 stock. 0% . 3-0 for Leffen

[@AnonymousFootballFan]

@@ElDrHouse2010 Tweek has good enough fundamentals surely he could become great in melee, if he took it as seriously as leffen does ultimate he could probably do well, that said not even ZeRo used to grind as hard as leff does so would probably take a couple of years to take a set from leffen if he grinds like average pro players.

[@alexyanez8033]

WHAT DID I JUST WATCH LETS GOO BIG LEFF

[@samus-alita4252]

Leffen is discovering his inner Pokemon Trainer Red/Ash deep within himself, it kept calling to him even though he had lost hope before

[@MikiziB]

Respect your elders.

[@qwertzuiopu]

lol

[@thatdude3977]

My b

[@ElDrHouse2010]

my b

[@nigelsoriano4909]

your cue to throw your controller

[@Killopotamus]

IS THERE ANYTHING MORE TO SAY

[@nate716]

Tweek gotta stop cracking under pressure. He is unstoppable when he's in that zone

[@pelhamrechtsanwalt2416]

It’slike Dabuz said, “He’s bitchmade”.

[@smittywerbenjaggermanjense2634]

Pelham Rechtsanwalt when did he say that ahhahaha

[@katiieeardley]

Me at the start of this set: "Leffen's the best at Fox dittos so, like, he must be the best at... at all dittos right? MELEE, MELEE, MELEE!"

[@steez4866]

Actually mango is the fox ditto master

[@katiieeardley]

@@steez4866 not according to armada lmao

[@clever8088]

@@steez4866 Mang0 literally never plays fox against leff nowadays for a reason.

[@TK-ev]

@@clever8088 Mango hates all fox dittos period due to the unpredictability but will destroy everyone in them if he's locked in

[@steez4866]

Ahah yes I know but for a while he believed he was the fox ditto master and I admired his enthusiasm

[@rambo3rd471]

Leffen just beat the #2 player in the world, and I guarantee the next set he loses, twitch chat is going to be like, "Leffen is trash at this game! Go back to Melee! LUL"

[@Yokai_Yuri]

In ultimate being the best or something does not mean quite a lot like Melee because Ultimate is the most balanced ( not perfect but way more balance than the trash known as Melee) smash game we have got. Just look how kameme came out of nowhere and has beaten Leo twice and send him to losers. Leffen might have beaten Tweek but Leffen is still trash and if you think he is that good( or he thinks himself as a god as always) then why not go to super major or why he is not prominent anywhere?. (Inb4 heHeHE LeFfEn JUsT dOnT wAnT tO pArTicIpaTe AnSwER) just think like a rational human being for once and answer these questions. THEN you'll know why Leffen pulled this off.

[@rtiq270]

@@Yokai_Yuri Melee is pretty balanced, you know. I don't like Leffen or play Melee, but you sound like a biased prick.

[@z-past1454]

Omega Storm I can’t believe it. The fact that you don’t believe Leffen is good is absolutely insane. And how dare you insult the beautiful game that is melee. I hate how the smash community acts online. Such children.

[@Lobster222]

I mean does winning one set in a tournament really mean he's a top level player now?

[@hentieeatr5641]

@@Yokai_Yuri What is your point?

[@989abcd]

FIRST SALEM NOW TWEEK, KEEP CLIMBING THAT LADDER Leff

[@nigelsoriano4909]

salem vs leff was the hypest set so far of ultimate imo

[@989abcd]

shani rockets yeah gotta agree on u on that. 2nd comes the GF evo set

[@fupalover]

Salem was luck. Here it's more so skill

[@989abcd]

Marcus Rondo well yeah it’s just Salem was hating on Melee players and is known as the bad guy in the ssb community, while in the other hand tweek is liked by the community and both of them r TSM

[@Killopotamus]

Marcus Rondo well Salem tried to disrespect tbf. That’s what made it so hype/funny.

[@Omareko]

Game Five: BIG LEFF has entered the chat

[@ROB8152Vill]

Commentators: I'm sure leffen is default. Me: yeah I know, I can read nametags

[@matthewskullblood9778]

how can they recover with ivy like that but I can't recover from 5 feet away

[@ericdragoification]

Damn Tweek come out last place, that’s so unfortunate because he could’ve gone so far if he didn’t get pair up with Leo first.

[@xonez8079]

Anyone else get Leffen vs GO1 in Dbfz vibes?

[@Def_Not_Batman]

Honestly no, but this was great for Leffen haha GO1 vs Leffen is still probably one of my favorites or favorite Leffen set tho

[@drop0ut606]

Tweek tilts like a lower level player, hes just so good otherwise it usually doesn't matter. He only gets tilted by elite players, but when he does, he's reduced to like midwest state PR level instead of #2 PGR.

[@patrickburton1401]

Why you gotta hate on the Midwest like that lol no one here ever claims to be as good as PGR you prob live here too and still get bodied I’m guessing? ;)

[@KongMonkE]

Why you gotta take a shot at the midwest :( Oh wait never mind we suck

[@drop0ut606]

@@KongMonkE haha I'm midwest too, we do indeed suck

[@enigmere]

such clean plays from leffen especially in the last set. never seen a better PT dito before. but sad for tweek .... I wanted both of them to make it far

[@xonez8079]

Now people have to recognize Leffen as a top player in Ultimate

[@Yokai_Yuri]

Lol not really. Watch Leffen being utterly destroyed by the other tops. Last time he went against Leo, Leo used like a shitty character and almost 3 stock Leff PT trainer.

[@xonez8079]

Omega Storm he hasn’t been destroyed by any top players recently. Has he even been 3’0ed at summit yet?

[@xonez8079]

Omega Storm he’s now beaten Salem, Maister, Puppeh, and Tweek. Edit: Wadi too. We can’t keep calling them upsets anymore.

[@Omla33]

Hes been 3 0d at summit a lot of times, but they were pretty darn close 3-0s, with each being last stock situations. Definitely dont count him out.

[@Insertagereviewer]

@@Yokai_Yuri last time they played was at pound where leo played wolf and won 3-1 close game 4

[@chargers014]

Iconic set for obvious reasons, I just can't help but think tweek wasn't taking him seriously in the beginning of those 2 games? Like am i crazy or do you guys see the same thing,Like part of me feels like he was trolling him with squirtle for a bit then started taking him more serious? Is it just me?

[@julio7580]

This why leffen one of my favorite fg players overall

[@JamesTaylor6]

Poor Tweek man. I'm sure we'll see him back on form soon.

[@sharsasuke01]

Its kinda sad seeing Tweek unravel with each stock he loses.

[@enriqueaguilar7325]

I will read bedtime stories to my son about this day. The Galactic Leff 3 stocked tweek.

[@henryreturns1397]

DBZ Fighters, Marvel vs Capcom 3 , Both Smash bros Melee and Smash bros Ultimate. Big Leff proving he can be a top player on multiple Smash and FGC games Sonic Fox : Hold my multiple EVOs

[@ElDrHouse2010]

except sonicfox is not respected because he is a furry lol

[@devinbannish1469]

@@ElDrHouse2010 I'm fine with that

[@zeppo2240]

Imagine hating a game so much, you beat several of the games best competitors... Leffen is seriously one of the most versatile players in the FGC. Melee, Ult, MvsC, DBFZ?!?!? Jesus christ

[@jel4005]

Major bruh moment. I think Tweeks mentality was WAY down there. I hope he will get better soon. Good Job to Big Leff though

[@jonnyuzumaki777]

Yes! Let's go Leffen! Good to see him win at this level.

[@Anthony_Committe]

I like Tweek but LETS GO LEFFEN!

[@fupalover]

Leffen is just a gamer. Took a game of the #1 Fighterz player and took the set vs (att) the #2 Ultimate player.

[@badsamaritan5709]

Side note: esam is a fantastic commentator

[@kivov]

Would've been a hell of a finisher if Leff vine whipped to the right at 24:20 to get the sweetspot kill also poor Tweek :(

[@xonez8079]

Both scenarios are equally hype imo

[@kivov]

@@xonez8079 i play PT so I'm just a huge sucker for vine whip kills lol. it's huge that Leff won but dair ain't the most hype move.

[@nonnolaser122]

Leffen is going to repeat the smash history becoming the god slayer in Ultimate

[@joelkoodarkking]

I like this comment but leffen won a major and said he hated ultimate Now he's playing tekken LOL

[@BathoryDusk]

BIG LEFF. Also that last stock in that last game was hella reminiscent of Melee Fox fast falling off stage and shine spiking. Melee roots.

[@lightbrand_]

Eh, you’re kinda reaching there...

[@BathoryDusk]

@@lightbrand_ Melee Melee Melee Melee Melee Melee

[@ElDrHouse2010]

@@BathoryDusk Slap City is also sick

[@lightbrand_]

GyroZeppeli don’t get me wrong I love melee more than I love ultimate, but that was a stretch

[@lightbrand_]

Actually I don’t love ultimate, but I do love melee

[@TeleportlabsETH]

Leffen had been disappointing in this tournament until now. Way to go!

[@sharsasuke01]

How? He doesn't play Ultimate full time unlike these pros who live in the same house and practise every day.

[@TribekaGaming]

Duke yea people need to understand that these guys ARE pros in ultimate leff is a pro in melee and does ultimate as a side hobby essentially, not to mention the shit region he lives in

[@PenguinjitsuX]

What an awesome set, DANG! Leffen's comeback at the end with the 3 stock was insane.

[@JB_CY]

DDDAAAAAMMMMMNNNNNN LLLLEEEEEFFFFFEEEENNNNN

[@MrHitchslap]

Just wanna apologize to my neighbours for screaming during this set

[@moist762]

Tweek just keeps falling lower and lower. No way he's #2 anymore

[@ElDrHouse2010]

he has said before that ultimate bores him. I feel. #2 is Samsora imo

[@ChrisPepper1989]

Using water gun from off stage to reset ledge trapping, is a revelation!

[@exiled5160]

Male pokemon trainer > female trainer confirmed

[@jermainetalaepa8463]

leffen really 3-0'd him that last game, god damn destruction

[@notapro6430]

Thumbnail makes it look like Leffen is Dark Side Tweek or smth lmao

[@duckyedits6753]

there’s a rly strong dynamic between the two players: tweek drops off hard when he loses the lead, and leffen turns up hard when he gains the lead

[@auroraourania7161]

Tweek's problem is, ironically, basically the same problem that Leffen had before Tweek picked up trainer. He only has faith in one of his pokemon, in this case Squirtle, which means that he's really struggling to cover Squirtle's pretty notable weakness, namely killing. Leffen had the same problem except with Ivysaur, and he's doing so much better now that he's using Squirtle as well, and even some Zard. Tweek needs to go back to using Ivysaur and Charizard. Yes, Ivysaur is weaker than she used to be, but she still does a great job at covering Squirtle's weaknesses, with Charizard in the back in case Ivysaur fails.

[@Limit91]

I love that I am a Pokemon Trainer main. There is such good reputation for pt and that every top player who plays pt is the "best at a certain character. Virium is mainly known for charizard, Leffen for Ivysaur, and Tweek for Squirtle.

[@kyrito11]

wait, i thought leffen wasnt a smash player lol

[@marshallcoleman4406]

Eth4n D0rit0z Salem said that about armada Leffen was the one who defended armada and that started the beef to my knowledge And called out Salem for playing bayo

[@zenbrown7144]

Research intensifies.

[@bringbringish]

Based on what?

[@DeathCorridor]

@@bringbringish based on salem

[@bringbringish]

@@DeathCorridor *based on years of research

[@MerryBlind]

Duuuuude that 3rd game was insane. So much shmovin' from both players!

[@tokenetta8070]

I noticed Tweek had been going downhill the past few tourneys. He just don't play as clean as he used too or at least not keeping up with the top 2 status.

[@ElDrHouse2010]

he has no main thats a problem for anyone.

[@sharsasuke01]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! Leffen just beat the #2 player AND 3 stocked him on game 5. Bruuuuuuuuh. This isn't even Big Leff anymore. This is Galactus Leff.

[@343Films]

What an amazing set. Great stuff on both sides!

[@trashman1791]

But also poor tweek :(

[@ilikepie9876543210]

Yeah, you could just feel his frustration growing as the set went on.

[@fupalover]

So? Every player gets frustrated. What about poor muteace? Poor Samsora? Get over it.

[@joshuaharrelson3134]

@@fupalover bro calm down lol

[@fupalover]

@@joshuaharrelson3134 Nah im tired of people always treating certain people special.

[@ilikepie9876543210]

@@fupalover "Treating certain people special"? It's called having empathy, and personally I can assure you that I would not have felt any differently if Tweek were just some random average player. Nothing to do with preferential treatment. You're taking this way too seriously anyway; it's not like anyone here is getting all depressed or anything over him, lol.

[@hollowedricecakes3085]

Gary Oak vs Level 1 pokemon trainer

[@gunide]

Someone should draw them both as trainers battling pokemon, Leffen with Ivysaur, Tweak with Squirtle

[@williamw8590]

Big Leff having to go Mars into tweek lmao

[@zmoney2154]

William Wuttke he didn’t play Leo

[@levicohen7333]

Tweet can turn it on whenever he wants. You can see him shake himself and readjust in his chair and after that he’s a beast

[@belgrado7208]

Leffen actually is the only player who were able to beat Tweek in a Pokemon Trainer ditto.

[@jonnybro7676]

What happened to tweak the energy was like he found out his mother died before the match

[@pearshapedbrain]

holy fuck leffen what was that last match

[@Zairo2K]

my favorite set during the summit 2 by far!!

[@jmm00702]

that game 5 was some majestic art piece by leffen

[@andersonlarios7257]

This set was so much fun to watch!

[@julio7580]

Tweak lost 2 stocks bc he wasn't familiar enough w ivysaur to hang while leffen used fire breath

[@dreadedcorsair3388]

This set was better than the Leffen vs Salem set.

[@matthewdawes6800]

How do you tether cancel like that

[@titanlevi2905]

Hand up for my boy Leffen! That last game was a masacre

[@gokudbz7842]

Leffen for every tourney!

[@datdamnmegabusta5604]

Competitive Pokémon has really changed this gen!

[@dee6561]

That last game was *BRUTAL*

[@mixman4science95]

4:27 that was amazing :´) an epic pokémon battle of champion league

[@PsychSaenz]

how come Leffen didn't bring his boyfriend William Hjete

[@ThePsuedo]

Yeah Tweek is washed. I don't think he's the number 2 player in the world anymore.

[@xonez8079]

He hasn’t been number 2 for the past 2 and half months... by smash con a lot of people caught up to him (Zackray, Samsora, Nairo) and now it seems like he’s getting worse...

[@ElDrHouse2010]

happens to people who have no main

[@soul7168]

@@ElDrHouse2010 you know there is a lot of truth in that statement LOL

[@C-mereSSBU]

It just occurred to me that Squirtle's kit is SUPER similar to Mario's.

[@just_aweird0]

Top 10 pokemon battles

[@dang579]

Leffen was paying the cost of switching games at the beginning His reactions and follow-ups are a bit slowed, as if he's adjusting to the speed of the game. But damn can he adapt

[@ElDrHouse2010]

remember when Wizzy beat Tweek? this is almost as cool as that one time.

[@sharsasuke01]

Wizzy beat Tweek!? The fuck?

[@birdenand]

wizzrobe or dark wizzy? i assume you mean wizzrobes wolf

[@ElDrHouse2010]

@@birdenand wizzrobe from Melee with Wolf

[@brycegenier4328]

Leffen, I'm not a big fan of your opinions, but this was one of the best sets I've watched so far.

[@silentwater9058]

So... this match up... for who was it looking rough again?

[@leoburnel6535]

You just beat a world top5 player of smash ultimate with a 3 stock and the first thing you say : Melee, melee, melee, melee THIS is god like

[@Dannyqw1]

It’s flamethrower not flame breath 😠😠

[@jason_nguyen1]

Yea I get tilted whenever commentators mix the two

[@MoySHADY602]

Awesome. Seemed it was in favor of tweek. Then Leffen caught up to tweeks patterns.

[@rinktheredlink9317]

I popped off so hard. That was a good ass set

[@Starling2100]

So happy to see Leffen win 😄

[@Not_Astrocat]

Tweek when he loses a stock in the match: *Looks defeated like the world is ending, like he shouldn't be losing oh god oh fuck* Leffen when he loses a stock in the match: ok