Left Right Mr Removed (without pre-recorded backing vocal/LAR, they use MR backtrack)

[@eloffmusk]

They chose to sing over the loud bactrack (AR) with varying level of vocal control. It's difficult to maintain perfect pitch and breath control while performing complex choreography.. If you've ever heard a very stable mr removed, then the sounds source is precorded vocals/LAR, because MR removed couldn't be able to distinguish between LAR and live.

[@forjuria5111]

Their singing and rapping are on Kpop idol level, exclude Juria. She can be passed as a western singer. My evaluation: Main Vocalist: Juria Main Rapper: Jurin & Harvey Main Dancer: Jurin & Cocona

[@AdriGoddess]

Which is why they need a lot more training--vocally--or work their choreography different or sing with mics instead of headsets.

[@forjuria5111]

​@@AdriGoddess I think that Juria's live singing has always been stable even though when performing complex choreo, she's the most stable among the others 0:44 1:04 1:50 2:20, followed by Jurin, Harvey, Chisa/ Maya. Hinata and Cocona truly need to focus on training their live vocals and rap skills, particularly their breathing control and vocal support. Most of their lines backed by AR backtrack.

[@AdriGoddess]

@@forjuria5111 Completely agree. Juria does sound the most stable. I'm not being too harsh on them. This is all coming out of love for them and I hope they improve.

[@g0ncww1]

​@@forjuria5111cocona said she is the best rapper of xg

[@Mystiqa]

wow they do sing well, quite stable with that level of performance. they're not compromising on anything. 👍

[@jlee9360]

this is neither singing well or stable. You are crazy.

[@YCHTT]

So Juria is the most stable of them all wow.

[@forjuria5111]

Yes she is. Her vocal support/control is great and she has a wide vocal range. She always sing her lines 100% live. If you hear Juria's raw vocals it's so obvious that she has good vocal control and power kzbin.infoY2ECwLOFvN4 kzbin.infodVqolcYAMEY That's why she always get high note parts kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z57KoGSKm82DpsU Vocal Support/control: Juria Jurin Chisa Harvey Maya Cocona Hinata Vocal range: Juria Chisa Jurin Maya Harvey Hinata Cocona

[@sarroumarbeu6810]

She gets all the important singing parts it's obvious she's the best trained singer...yet they're all have pretty good skills too on top of dancing so intensely like that

[@loudanielharagon7068]

this is so tiring 😭 I'm so proud of them, even tho it's not pure live vocals, you can hear them cactching their breath. This is so hard specially most of the steps have dynamics and they have to memorize every positions as well, they are also good in managing their facial expressions. Wow I'm so impressed by these girls 💗💗💗

[@forjuria5111]

Mr removed you've seen on any youtube channel often taken from pre-recorded vocals/Live AR that's been edited, because the software can't be able to distinguish Live AR and Live singing, however this left right XG mr removed's sounds source is live singing not LAR. This performance is live singing with AR backtrack. You may hear some out of breath and off-pitch voices and it's understandable since they also perform a complex intense choreo.

[@korn_bjbj4779]

This is totally fine.. being an idol and performing to entertain fans has gone a long way.. I'm so proud of them..

[@inquisitvem6723]

This was actually pretty good considering the complex choreo. This vid did a good job of allowing to hear a closest to live performance.

[@jtdeluxe5943]

To really think they thought about sending Juria home during the training and shes the best one in live performances

[@forjuria5111]

The xgalcl management is slow at pivoting and responding to the latest trends. After Jimin BTS encore Nightmare which went viral and watched by 40 million people on Twitter, there is now a significant focus on live singing. Since then, it's been a known fact that live performance on mushow doesn't reflect the actual singing abilities. However, management is still on their strategy of promoting dancer/rapper more. They are still in 3rd gen Kpop mindset. Juria has always been good as a singer and as a performer.

[@strangeclouds7]

​@@forjuria5111le serrafim isn't focused on vocals lol

[@forjuria5111]

@@strangeclouds7who said sserafim focused on vocals? they are bashed by Knets and International Kpop fans because their live singing is bad, Their encore views are almost 40 M views as like Jimin's

[@strangeclouds7]

@@forjuria5111 I'm not saying they are, I'm literally saying they're not because they sound like crap

[@blueberrysponge42]

@@forjuria5111 the whole group was really stable in the mascara era, but they stopped practicing hard on live vocals in the later eras. I think it's because the choreos became really groovy and didn't allow much core stability. Also, If you look at NMixx and Itzy, it doesn't look like they are getting that many fans despite their stable vocals. most people don't really care about live-singing. Dancing and what's in the album are still more important.

[@rigillie]

Juria needs a raise

[@NickaLah]

She's my fave 💜

[@jhomsubiaga-cabaro5715]

She is like a Gun with a Silencer 🥶 she is the most dangerous member, now she have a Rap Verses on her sleeves , she will be a triple Threat

[@juandeleon9710]

@@jhomsubiaga-cabaro5715Stop your delussion

[@jhomsubiaga-cabaro5715]

​@@juandeleon9710 bitter ?

[@Rajibu]

This is crazy good! The choreo takes a lot and them even wanting to sing live is so much! So proud, I am a Alpha for live.

[@outerspaceofficial3729]

Juria, your vocals are very stable

[@silverdragon6092]

ちょっとずつで良いからこんな風にその場で歌うパフォーマンスのステージを増やしてほしい

[@pedroportalatin6751]

It's hard when you are dancing singing and dancing so quick

[@anykkaxyrillelugtu5571]

For those who are new to XG, they really Sing live, especially on Mascara era. All of them sang live on that era but I guess they choose not to Sing live or their company told them to lessen their live singing. But who knows??? If you watch the MR removed on Mascara era you'll be Amaze how stable their Vocals are.

[@forjuria5111]

They always sing live including here, only Hinata and Cocona whose parts were mostly backed by AR, they are sub-vocalist and lead-rapper anyway. And Juria has always been singing stable since Mascara era kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYTUeIKAZ7Fmo6s

[@chrissy9438]

@@forjuria5111 I chose the right one for my bias XD

[@strangeclouds7]

I love xg

[@pg3973]

Omg an actual live performance lol. Iv scoured the internet for just one! And they are GREAT! Why there company is forcing them to only use auto tune, not even back tracking, is beyond me.

[@forjuria5111]

yes here is how live vocals with intense dancing should be sounded

[@jlee9360]

because it sounds horrible. All of their "live" performances are not actually fully live.

[@stuka80]

@@jlee9360 yes, i kept hearing how good they are vocally, so i scoured youtube trying to find raw live vocals from this group while performing choreo instead of just sitting or standing which is almost nonexistant, until i found this video... and honestly hearing this, i wasn't really impressed. they were pretty shaky and out of breath and the 1 attempt at a high note at 2:45 was underwhelming.

[@さんこ-s6g]

コレオもめちゃくちゃハードだからなぁ…🥲🥲その中でも音をお腹の底から出してるのがわかるジュリアちゃん流石にすごすぎる

[@forjuria5111]

Juria utilizes her chest voice when performing challenging and intense choreography, which indicates her excellent vocal support or vocal control.

[@inquisitvem6723]

XG has some of the most complex choreo for gg

[@chestertheblack]

Group in general

[@feinriche]

the little "yeah!" at 3:14 is so cute lol

[@user-yv5zm8en7p]

쥬리아 😍😍

[@DhanuLaksono]

this video should be an eye opening for those who complain about idols lipsyncing haha.. i bet they cant even spell their own name while do this choreo.. shout out to xg and all hardworking idols 👏🏻

[@MrRdlv]

In 2nd gen, the girl groups rarely lipsyncing but for the singing part they would each ease up the choreography. Should be the standard too nowadays

[@eloffmusk]

The complexity and intensity of choreography in Kpop has become so great that many performers are now more focused on their dancing abilities than their singing. This shift in priorities is partly due to the widespread use of audio engineering / autotune software, which makes it easier than ever to produce clear and on-pitch vocals. As a result, lip-syncing method like LAR/ pre-recorded vocals have become more prevalent, causing some performers to lose touch with their ability to perform live singing. Nowadays many people have become accustomed to hearing pre-recorded, polished vocals in live performances. This has led to an expectation of performers sounding perfectly stable and clear, even when idols moving intensely and jumping on stage. As a result, the raw, unfiltered quality of live vocals has become less common

[@eloffmusk]

If XG don't do complex choreo, they (especially XG main vocalist Juria) can perform stable live singing. It's proven by fancam at fanmeet kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJWTe4N8fqd_odk

[@MrRdlv]

@@eloffmusk yes. I mean it's impossible to dance hard while being stable. The one who sing their part has to ease the choreography a bit so they could sing.

[@eloffmusk]

@@MrRdlv The industry usually use pre-recorded/LAR or recorded/AR as a loud bactrack in the "live" stage which makes the audience set unrealistic expectation on how live singing while performing hard choreo sounds like.

[@Schroberry]

that is bullshit lol I have been Kpopping (lol) since TVXQ and lipsyncing, as much as it is frowned upon, is not rare. That is why 2ne1 was a breathe of fresh air, they actually do live

[@Cha-Charli]

wow Juria! ♥

[@ventaliq]

they all did great

[@Sebastian-jl6yc]

No hace falta escuchar este video para saber que XG siempre tuvo increíbles vocales y son muy estables

[@forjuria5111]

If you checking the other mr remove channel,, Juria's singing is always stable since Mascara era. I'm just being honest. The other need to improve their singing/rapping skills. However this taken from live stage that backed by AR backtrak not the pre-recorded vocals/LAR/lipsync. They actually singing live. Most of Mr removed are taken from LAR/lipsync in which the software cannot distinguish between LAR/lipsync and live singing.

[@AdriGoddess]

Sus vocales NO son estables. Necesitan practica.

[@inquisitvem6723]

Actually overall they’re still pretty good, but Juria stands out. This is a very complex choreo.

[@forjuria5111]

Yes, they were good considering they performed live singing and hard dancing with MR backtrack instead of using a pre-recorded/LAR backtrack or lip-syncing. Juria displayed great vocal support/breath control. In some parts, she reduced her moves to focus more on her singing.

[@strangeclouds7]

​@@forjuria5111Whats the difference between AR and LAR

[@forjuria5111]

@@strangeclouds7Live AR/LAR is a kind of AR, while it not only contains the sound of instrumental accompaniment and idol’s voice but also contains the sound of singer’s labored breathing to give an illusion of singing live so it's literally advanced lipsync or advanced AR. XG here uses MR/backtrack which is taken from their original recorded sound not AR nor LAR. It's typo they use live + MR/backtrack. They still singing live but in Puppet show only Juria & Chisa who sing live.

[@strangeclouds7]

@@forjuria5111 Thanks. What does AR, LAR, and MR stand for?

[@forjuria5111]

@@strangeclouds7AR (All-Recorded, instrumental & voice, it's literally what usual recorded on stream or album) LAR (Live AR, breathing sound included), MR (Music recorded, like a karaoke ), but often times MR removed refers to AR .

[@avvmendoza]

You must be a freaking robot to be able to sing in perfect tone and pitch while doing a choreo that looks like a cardio exercise. You must be a god to be able to do that. Expecting an ordinary human being to do thing superhuman is moronic.

[@YCHTT]

I love XG but I suggest you watch groups like Dreamcatcher, they slay every time with rap & vocal doing complex choreography and Mamamoo also good but choreography wise & rhythm not as complex & hard like Dreamcatcher.

[@eloffmusk]

​@Morpheus X most of Kpop group Mr Removed sound source are from pre-recorded vocals/ LAR (lipsync with pre-recorded live AR which breathing are also recorded) How could you know that they're singing live? I'm sure the sound source of this stage is live singing because of its imperfections. No live voice will be perfectly stable when you do intense and complex choreo. Mr removed software can't distinguish live singing and pre recorded. That's why people are often judge the vocals from the encore stage, even though most of encore using pre-recorded vocals as well. I judge their vocals quality from fancam at fanmeet, therefore no filter involved.

[@eloffmusk]

​@@YCHTT have you ever heard dreamcatcher singing live like this? kzbin.infoY2ECwLOFvN4?feature=share Most of Mr removed sound sources from pre-recorded vocals not live.

[@YCHTT]

@@eloffmusk It's called having good ears. The end.

[@eloffmusk]

@@YCHTT so you have no proof. Live stage with hard choreo often use LAR/pre-recorded, a few use LMR/partially live. This Left Right XG use LMR with loud backtrack from official studio version. As I said most of Mr removed are pre-recorded vocals that's been processed in the studio, you will barely hear off pitch and just slightly recorded out of breath voices to make it sounds like live, even though they jump and move constantly.

[@xokaponrxmt]

ジュリンちゃんはあまり声が揺れないんだなぁ😳

[@deucedaprodeuca]

People have no idea how hard it is to sing and dance at the same time. It can be difficult to walk at a brisk pace and talk on the phone at the same time. Major props to this group for attempting this with no backup vocal track.

[@missym]

Juria

[@wakaoz3029]

This is why they are called Xtraordinary Girls!

[@bankrollplays5744]

Cocona said nope lmaoooo

[@chrissy9438]

No shade but I always feel like rappers dont really need to lipsync. I mean i guess she's kind of talk singing? Or is it a worry of pronunciation?

[@bankrollplays5744]

@@chrissy9438 true but everyone tried to sing even maya

[@inquisitvem6723]

@@chrissy9438rapping isn’t easy while dancing, you pronunciation and cadence can be off when dancing.

[@roadto4thgeneration626]

Queens

[@jlee9360]

Thank you for exposing this. People are so dumb to think these groups are singing live nearly flawlessly. You can actually see how horrible they are.

[@forjuria5111]

most music show performance or concert using studio version as backtrack or prerecorded/LAR. And most of mr removed video you've seen are using LAR which cannot be removed by software. I appreciate that they sang it live without prerecorded/LAR backtrack

[@scottyoung3700]

It's hard to dance and sing, very hard. Entertaining is a helluva thing. You have to be in excellent cardiovascular condition and practice breath control with the moves. Hard.

[@Lysa-nh9gf]

Stan XG

[@さくら-l6y7r]

踊りも歌もビジュアルもレベチ！

[@Jack20165]

in these kind of show it like they tell the groups to take it easy with the vocals volume, if you watched the It´s Live performances all groups can sing.

[@forjuria5111]

are you new to Kpop, it's live actually isn't 100% live, it use pre-recorded vocals

[@Mercuricmike]

Chisa 🫶

[@awkwardcutie]

They did great!

[@bungeegum3437]

Juria is so gooodddd

[@itsmeliza3700]

Omg the breath

[@forjuria5111]

yes, it's live

[@korn_bjbj4779]

I would rather have them not sing too much and just dance good than the other way around..😊

[@forjuria5111]

yet, most of them still sang live over the loud AR bactrack, Juria is the most stable among the others, she sang almost 100% of her lines.

[@kodaakaitv1103]

They still sound good tho

[@esas5734]

Juria rising fast in my bias list

[@HelTra91]

I knew it was live when Chisa messed up the lyrics :P

[@ぽっさん-q1z]

無理に歌わなくても良いと思う こんなダンスでは流石にキツい

[@forjuria5111]

Hard choreo is XG's selling point yet they keep being professional as singers by singing live over a loud bactrack/AR. ハードなコレオが XG のセールスポイントですが、彼らは大音量のバックトラック/AR で生歌を歌うことで、歌手としてプロフェッショナルであり続けています。

[@junkbera-p3p]

ただ立って歌うだけなら、XGの全員が上手く歌うでしょう それはLIVE映像からもわかる事です ただ1つ言えることは、パフォーマンスしながら100%歌いきることは簡単ではないということですね それにしてもJURIAちゃんの歌声はよく通って綺麗ですね😍

[@yannaisabelle5600]

Ngl the choreo is so hard that can make your voice shaky

[@hiyyih_lea]

I always knew Juria is the best singer in the group. No wonder she got the better vocal parts than Chisa. 🤭

[@NamJooniess]

She’s the main vocal?

[@hiyyih_lea]

@@NamJooniess Yes, her and Chisa both are main vocals, but I think Juria is slightly better.

[@NamJooniess]

@@hiyyih_lea correct because SHES the MAIN vocalist she gets the most lines and high notes in the songs you can tell who is more trained

[@LuluLights]

Both of them are amazing

[@NamJooniess]

@@LuluLights yes I know chisa is my bias,but they were pointing out the obvious and simply responded

[@fbdm75]

On se rend compte qu´il est totalement impossible de chanter et de danser en même temps. Je comprends mieux l´utilisation du play-back et ça ne me dérange pas.

[@su_ji]

MR除去って投稿者の加減によるって聞いたけどどうなんですかね。

[@forjuria5111]

this source of sound taken from live vocals with AR bactrack. "Mr Removed" software removes the AR. If the bactrack were LAR/pre-recorded, mr Removed will not able to distinguish it with LAR.

[@Dissmiss2013]

I do love xg but I think their company make them lipsing too much

[@forjuria5111]

They are in the K-pop industry system which involves MR/AR backtrack or even live AR backtrack in every stage performance, and they did live vocals AR/MR (singing over backtrack). That's what an actual sounds like if you do intense dancing.

[@xwzxg]

for every mr removed, Cocona always lipsync, i wonder why... no wonder her mic was too far away from her mouth

[@swizz43]

Yeah!! now,New dance era still the same!! I really like her voice and i know she really can sing after watching their documentary series but why?? It's a bit disappointed!!

[@わん-j8w]

How Cocona sings is whispering . So,I think singing aloud is difficult for her while dancing hard. Breath is so unstable to whisper.

[@user-eu2ld1zy9f]

I can't ask you to tweak the backtrack on a Korean music show If possible, it's just a rough instruction Different music programs have different characteristics and different backtracks

[@life-pm5xl]

Sounds like they can't breathe. Lol

[@forjuria5111]

This is the real live singing when perfoming hard choreo without pre-recorded backing vocals/LAR. Most of Mr removed we've seen on youtube take source from LAR, because this software couldn't distinguish between LAR and live. "one of the easiest way to know whether the idol is singing live or not is to carefully listen the intake of breathe in the mic,". LAR that also recording breathing sounds in the studio foesn't have so much intake of breath.

[@migretros5690]

what is LAR?

[@forjuria5111]

@@migretros5690 Live AR or heavily processed/autotuned pre-recorded vocals which also contains breathing voice to make it sound live. MR REMOVED cannot differentiate between LAR and live, only can removes AR (studio version)

[@yunhosparrot]

You try doing the choreography while trying to sing with perfect pitch the whole time at 110% 99% of kpop groups lipsing the whole song every song

[@nanoeyes21]

can you do sb19?

[@unknown-z1f4s]

XGでこれなら他は地獄ね、地獄w それにしても、このパフォーマンスは何年前のかしら？

[@caca-wd9fv]

in what show was this

[@forjuria5111]

Show! Music Core MBC

[@Lazaro-138]

they sound horrible nothing like the pre recorded lol

[@forjuria5111]

Show me a performance where the idols delivers excellent vocals while also performs hard choreo without relying on a backing track or pre-recorded layers?. If you find MR REMOVED where the vocals are very stable during intense singing and dancing, it's likely pre-recorded rather than live. Juria's voice (the most stable one here), for example, wouldn't be that stable while constantly moving.

[@stuka80]

@@forjuria5111 I'd be curious what your opinion is of p-pop girl group Bini if you're aware of them. Unless i'm mistaken they do live vocals for the entirety of their performance that can last up to 3 hours and i've never really heard them be this out of breath. From everything i hear of them they dont use autotune/lipsync but actually do live vocals. They usually open their concert with a 3 song medley that lasts around 15 minutes with vocal and choreo and there's belting involved in those songs but i dont really hear them being out of breath or struggle. If you were to check them out, i'd suggest "Lagi" dance + vocal practice, you'll see what i mean, they dance a complex choreo and have very stable vocals increasing in tempo as the song progresses, honestly its an amazing display of their talent.