Leg grabs are COMING BACK under TWO conditions

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Chadi

Chadi

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@Chadi
@Chadi Ай бұрын
The book “The Origins & History of Judo” is now available on Amazon worldwide in English, French, and Japanese, not just the links below. You can search for it in the Amazon of your own country. Amazon EU: amzn.eu/d/bfEkJmQ Amazon US: a.co/d/dNyMInt Amazon Asia: amzn.asia/d/aRU8ZXn French version: amzn.eu/d/8SN3DNs Thank you all.
@humanbass
@humanbass Ай бұрын
I've been advocating for leg grab combined with upper grab for years. Glad they finally listened to me 😁
@ranfan1820
@ranfan1820 Ай бұрын
Adding this to the list of things i never thought would happen.
@MichaelBrown-q4y
@MichaelBrown-q4y Ай бұрын
The Community is finally realizing (10 years to late IMO) that the IJF doesn't own Judo. The Community does, and that the IJF can only get away with what The Community allows them to.
@MeliorIlle
@MeliorIlle Ай бұрын
You mean what Japan lets them do.
@brenobuinbarbosa7158
@brenobuinbarbosa7158 29 күн бұрын
😂​@@MeliorIlle
@JivecattheMagnificent
@JivecattheMagnificent Ай бұрын
Woah, this is massive.
@alexandrehuat773
@alexandrehuat773 Ай бұрын
And here we judo again...
@mrasshole9088
@mrasshole9088 Ай бұрын
May I use this?😎
@ultramax6442
@ultramax6442 Ай бұрын
Kodokan is the best,IJF suucckkss
@j2208
@j2208 Ай бұрын
hyped for georgian grip big lifts with the legs
@NickKano11
@NickKano11 Ай бұрын
This is the right move. We get all the cool throws back (Kata Guruma, Te Guruma), while removing the BS we saw in the 2008 Olympics.
@richardquinby42
@richardquinby42 Ай бұрын
This is big news. I'm kind of glad to hear it. Thank you for being so timely with this. It's already getting a lot of attention. When you think about it, there's a similar rule with bear hugging. You have to have a grip first, you can't just come out and bear hug.
@haffoc
@haffoc Ай бұрын
this is a welcome change.
@jde1311
@jde1311 Ай бұрын
Amazing new. Very happy about this!
@freshtonnes859
@freshtonnes859 Ай бұрын
Hell yeah! Thats awesome. Real Jujutsu is slowly coming back!
@mritchie85
@mritchie85 Ай бұрын
Kuchiki-taoshi & Kibisu gaeshi all the way to a Gold medal at next olympics.
@thomass.4007
@thomass.4007 Ай бұрын
You’ll never see upright seoi nage etc again though. All you guys don’t think this through. The possibility of teguruma counters makes upright throws so much less viable. Dropping will be Meta
@lewispeart2344
@lewispeart2344 Ай бұрын
​@@thomass.4007dropping is already meta and so is Ura Nage. If your Seoi Nage sucks so much it can be countered by Te Guruma it can also be countered by Ura Nage. Get better at Seoi Nage.
@glennhynes5263
@glennhynes5263 27 күн бұрын
​@thomass.4007 If the upright seoi is so effective, then it should work. If it is rendered ineffective when used within the near-full gokyo, then so be it.
@thomass.4007
@thomass.4007 27 күн бұрын
@@glennhynes5263 Under leg grab rules, drop seoi will be more effective/less dangerous. On concrete, in a self defense situation without rules, upright seoi will be better. Same with fighting upright.We have to make draw backs at some level, and judo is unique atm compared to its subclasses bjj and sambo in favoring upright grappling
@lewispeart2344
@lewispeart2344 Ай бұрын
Made a comment on beyond graplings video after the olympics about this exact rule setup, and how it would fix everything, feeling quite chuffed that I called that 😂 im excited.
@Yupppi
@Yupppi Ай бұрын
I think simply the announcement of Kodokan change, if IJF does not follow the suite, will motivate a lot of people globally. Potentially even enough that there will be some "Kodokan rule set" competitions and people who remember leg grabs and taught them will put more focus on them in their dojos. I don't hold my expectations high but maybe even those who complained years about the IJF rules and say they quit judo because of that will return to practice. We'll see. I think this will validate people globally for doing a bit of leg grabs training. Another thought I had was that even if I'm neutral to leg grabs staying away or coming back, although I'd be excited to train them some, is that the way they described the rule change by Kodokan, it would've easily removed all the silly edge cases in the Paris Olympics where there was a touch or grip below belt that was somewhat inconsequential or very safe and controlled. And despite being big on safety for all, there's something about that kata guruma where you basically do a cartwheel that's so beautiful and athletic. Or somersault kata guruma, whichever way you would describe it.
@NickKano11
@NickKano11 Ай бұрын
I'd rather get dumped with a big standing Kata Guruma than I would a Soto Makikomi.
@moonsdonut5188
@moonsdonut5188 Ай бұрын
This is a good beginning it’s a win for judo
@jerry_rules
@jerry_rules Ай бұрын
So basically Steve Scott's freestyle judo.
@CoelhoSports
@CoelhoSports Ай бұрын
There is a whole catalog of techniques that are all kodokan judo. Some are not allowed in kodokan randori or competition and almost all of them are not allowed in IJF, but it's all kodokan judo. AAU allows leg grabs as long as you are "continuously" (no trapping like in wrestling) attempting a throw or takedown starting from the jacket and not grabbing leg or pant to stall, and AAU is kodokan judo. The old IJF rules were also kodokan judo. They didn't cease to become kodokan when IJF changed it's rules. Kodokan submitted the rules for kosen competition to the japan martial arts federation, so kosen is also kodokan. There is only one judo: kodokan judo. There are many competition and sparring rules sets.
@ritchie737
@ritchie737 Ай бұрын
Quel bel accent français, merci pour ton travail
@Chadi
@Chadi Ай бұрын
🙇🏻‍♂️
@aikidog5
@aikidog5 Ай бұрын
Bravo pour tout ton travail et merci pour tes efforts au service de l'esprit du Budo. Respect
@Chadi
@Chadi Ай бұрын
@@aikidog5 merci beaucoup 🙇🏻‍♂️
@Amos4.1
@Amos4.1 Ай бұрын
So no Morote Gari. 😢 still amazing news im excited.
@Chadi
@Chadi Ай бұрын
@@Amos4.1 unfortunately no
@CyberChud2077
@CyberChud2077 Ай бұрын
@@Chadi Shh don't tell Kodokan but roughly what Travis Stephens is doing in your thumbnail (having one hand around the waist and one hand on the knee,) is probably the second most popular double leg finish. Just don't block the other knee 😉
@ianyoung8392
@ianyoung8392 Ай бұрын
What will be most interesting is grip modifications for current throws like harai goshi with a leg grip instead of lapel as you shoot in and then up to sweep. A complete cartwheel in the air of hands and arms.
@ricardoaguilar4750
@ricardoaguilar4750 Ай бұрын
Morote gari really great self-defense technique
@yakovdavidovich7943
@yakovdavidovich7943 Ай бұрын
Only if you stay standing when it's done, IMO. Any throw that typically puts you down on the ground with uke afterwards is second tier or worse for self defense.
@gladiumcaeli
@gladiumcaeli Ай бұрын
​@@yakovdavidovich7943 that is the reason why I like the rule in sambo that if you stay standing you get more points
@tristanjones7682
@tristanjones7682 Ай бұрын
@@yakovdavidovich7943wouldn’t any throw that goes to the ground be considered doing Brazilian jiu-jitsu by that point instead of judo?
@vids595
@vids595 Ай бұрын
@@tristanjones7682 newaza is newaza
@JJDon5150
@JJDon5150 Ай бұрын
​@@tristanjones7682not really considering that BJJ originated from Judo, it's its actually just Judo.
@fightefx
@fightefx Ай бұрын
I like it. It is cool. More versitile and not an easy pick for wrestlers.
@jylpah
@jylpah Ай бұрын
Great news for Judo 🎉 a step for right direction
@beskeptic
@beskeptic Ай бұрын
This is amazing news!
@furiousfellow1583
@furiousfellow1583 Ай бұрын
This is awesome, I dont care about IJF amymore this is enough to srart trying this new ruleset on my local club, now we can call kodokan judo and make it different from ijf judo 😁
@Fred-px5xu
@Fred-px5xu 28 күн бұрын
About time...leg grabs open one to different possibilities.
@RobertVerdell-pt2co
@RobertVerdell-pt2co Ай бұрын
Thank you! I think you might have stimulated someone's thoughts!
@Chadi
@Chadi Ай бұрын
@@RobertVerdell-pt2co 🙇🏻‍♂️
@krisswegemer1163
@krisswegemer1163 Ай бұрын
How long was morote gari a judo throw before someone arbitrarily decided it wasn't judo?
@CabralNick
@CabralNick Ай бұрын
100 years +
@timelesswarriors
@timelesswarriors Ай бұрын
Always has existed in every grappling sport since the dawn of humanity. Sport politics suck for judo when it comes to these rules
@Joel-xt5yz
@Joel-xt5yz Ай бұрын
I did not saw your video on the thing about one leg. Yet I was expecting something like that would happen, because no leg has prevented not only passivities, but also the opportunities to finish some takedowns as well as some counters, so it make sense if we have one leg grip just for attacking
@Togrul_Qurbanov
@Togrul_Qurbanov Ай бұрын
Im so happy
@aldairflores6049
@aldairflores6049 Ай бұрын
Great news 🙌
@jmyguzzi
@jmyguzzi Ай бұрын
Sounds like knee and ankle picks are a go
@adammesheia
@adammesheia Ай бұрын
Yup
@joatanpereira4272
@joatanpereira4272 Ай бұрын
I got happy thinking it was from the IJF, but I hope it will pressure them to do the same
@matkobarbarich2971
@matkobarbarich2971 Ай бұрын
What so you think is the most probably case, the ijf will allow leg grabs again or will stay in their actual ruleset?
@marceloisoni9158
@marceloisoni9158 Ай бұрын
Thank you, Lord!
@tristanjones7682
@tristanjones7682 Ай бұрын
Well hey we’re finally being able to do actual judo again in the olympics! We’re finally getting somewhere!
@pierrewilliam7119
@pierrewilliam7119 Ай бұрын
Hello Chadi (bonjour haha) In France some say that the ferederation reintroduced this rule to outcompete T. Riner ; what's your opinion on this ?
@Chadi
@Chadi Ай бұрын
I say it’s ridiculous, first of all we don’t know if the all japan rules will apply internationally. And second Riner will be 36 soon, if it was truly about him they would have done it years ago.
@pierrewilliam7119
@pierrewilliam7119 Ай бұрын
@@Chadi thanks for your answer ! Bonne fin de journée
@WillGage-c7l
@WillGage-c7l Ай бұрын
I don't know much about anything, but it seems like there are other ways to incentivize engagement in grip fighting, like heavy stalling penalties if a competitor is avoiding it.
@henrikg1388
@henrikg1388 Ай бұрын
Hurrah! Calls for celebration! 🎉 I sked myself the same question from the start. Why not at least allow one hand going for the legs?
@kryptographic_4490
@kryptographic_4490 Ай бұрын
@Chadi please make a video of the saitiev brothers’ use of judo in freestyle wrestling
@Chadi
@Chadi Ай бұрын
@@kryptographic_4490 you got it
@thuglincoln7699
@thuglincoln7699 Ай бұрын
FINALLY
@Bpd0177
@Bpd0177 Ай бұрын
I used to do Freestyle wrestling and some Judo players used to train at the same club ,they are great leg attackers its a shame they dont allow leg attacks because they will lose that skill
@williamnield7133
@williamnield7133 Ай бұрын
Where did you do free style wrestling. There's basically no clubs in the UK.
@Bpd0177
@Bpd0177 Ай бұрын
@@williamnield7133 Bolton Olympic wrestling, Ince olympic wrestling club and Atherton submission wrestling (fighting fit club) Run by a guy called Darren Morris that became ASW ,and later a MMA club ,this was in the 1990s mid to late
@Leopar525
@Leopar525 Ай бұрын
PERFECT
@facts-never-lies3160
@facts-never-lies3160 Ай бұрын
I think it's very fair to only allow leg grabs while performing Kumikata.
@punteroism
@punteroism Ай бұрын
Please bring them back 🙏🙏🙏
@terrykim2748
@terrykim2748 Ай бұрын
I kinda wish both arms would be allowed. The meta for grappling is evolving so much and if more advanced judokas could explore explore leg attacks, esp those who also wrestle, they’d be able to bring soooo much knowledge to the game of gi-takedown. Yes, some ppl will avoid grip fighting and spam blast doubles but in time, judokas will learn to counter them and that’s how the art evolves.
@larsonabilla5066
@larsonabilla5066 29 күн бұрын
Judo is like video game where the Devs keep making extreme balancing patches. Just let the players figure it out
@andreandretta5259
@andreandretta5259 Ай бұрын
We’re so back
@mckendrick7672
@mckendrick7672 Ай бұрын
Now we need standing submissions back
@Lambert06Pasquale06
@Lambert06Pasquale06 Ай бұрын
how exciting!
@blitzthekraken9832
@blitzthekraken9832 Ай бұрын
Honestly, I love it. Now if they could change it to a point system versus ippon, I think it would even be more interesting. They are going to have to mix it up because Sambo is submitting for the Olympics and are going to breath down Judo's back, and by far Sambo has the best rule set for grappling. It's very fan friendly in its rule set and pretty entertaining to watch, even for a non-fan.
@lewispeart2344
@lewispeart2344 Ай бұрын
Ippon will never go, that is the most fundamental aspect of Judo. Tbh Sambo can have the Olympic it deserves it, I hope we stop letting the IOC dictate how our sport is played.
@krzysztofcieslik1724
@krzysztofcieslik1724 Ай бұрын
Great change
@dirtygeazer9266
@dirtygeazer9266 Ай бұрын
Sorry to be nit picky but kata guruma came from catch i mean unless you meant it's more in the style of judo bc yes it is very judo style
@ThirdLawPair
@ThirdLawPair Ай бұрын
So would a wrestling-style knee pick be allowed under this new rule?
@bruceparker6142
@bruceparker6142 Ай бұрын
Can you show in-competition throws that would come back?I know this might be a bit much to ask.
@paxmarc1673
@paxmarc1673 Ай бұрын
It only took some guard pulls in the olympics
@ResTAnimous
@ResTAnimous Ай бұрын
Chadi, penses tu que par la meme occasion le head diving sera supprimé et le reverse seio nage de retour ?
@Chadi
@Chadi Ай бұрын
@@ResTAnimous seoi coréen je doute, mais le head diving je pense que oui.
@ResTAnimous
@ResTAnimous Ай бұрын
@@Chadi dommage mais je garde espoir !
@muhammadnada9433
@muhammadnada9433 Ай бұрын
Hopefully,it will come back
@Hunter_EagleConsumesSerpent
@Hunter_EagleConsumesSerpent Ай бұрын
Great news, this makes me come back to judo
@judodoum
@judodoum Ай бұрын
❤❤❤ merci
@1massboy
@1massboy Ай бұрын
Great news!
@Clyde_Ono
@Clyde_Ono Ай бұрын
Just watched Naidan Suzuki 2008 and it wasn’t as bad as a I thought but agree it can easily degenerate to a wrestling match without gripping and a lot of stalling (I say this as both a judoka and wrestler).
@ytmhcubed
@ytmhcubed Ай бұрын
Finally! Oh my god now most of nage waza is actually worthwhile practicing for competition again! Yay! Or at least I hope hope hope hope that this gets adopted by everyone. It has to be, come on guys.
@SoldierDrew
@SoldierDrew Ай бұрын
Do you still compete?
@TheSonoranDesertGrower
@TheSonoranDesertGrower Ай бұрын
It would be cool if Judo was just legalized. It's become so watered down like BJJ for self defense, because of competition rule sets.
@mapcec593
@mapcec593 Ай бұрын
reverse seoi nage shoul come back too
@Ursopolar-wl4le
@Ursopolar-wl4le Ай бұрын
Chadi, good job from brazil! You talk about this years ago!
@Chadi
@Chadi Ай бұрын
@@Ursopolar-wl4le 🙇🏻‍♂️
@iamabean
@iamabean Ай бұрын
I started judo in 2017 when the leg grab was already banned. I dont know what i should feel about this. I am already used to doing judo without leg grab
@danle3181
@danle3181 Ай бұрын
Sorry to read you never did judo... 🙄😉
@thomass.4007
@thomass.4007 Ай бұрын
You’ll never see upright seoi nage etc again though. All you guys don’t think this through. The possibility of teguruma counters makes upright throws so much less viable. Dropping will be Meta
@dhimankalita1690
@dhimankalita1690 Ай бұрын
No we will not think this through we ant leg grabs back
@NDOhioan
@NDOhioan Ай бұрын
"You’ll never see upright seoi nage etc again though" ... Then maybe people who want to implement upright seoi nage should get better at it, rather than whining that counters to it aren't fair? Just a thought.
@thomass.4007
@thomass.4007 Ай бұрын
@@NDOhioan that’s the dumbest thing I ever heard. Sports do not work that way. The winner will be the one with the strongest system, and they will always choose the best techniques. If I can just get better at my seoi, what stops my opponent to get better at his teguruma? Nothing. So I choose drop seoi, and the problem is done. Why don’t you get a better Seoi and get Olympic gold?
@NDOhioan
@NDOhioan Ай бұрын
@@thomass.4007 That's an awful lot of words to say "It's more important that judo wooks pwetty than it is for judo competitions to allow more judo."
@lewispeart2344
@lewispeart2344 Ай бұрын
​@@thomass.4007you needa get off the internet bro 😂😂😂
@carlc6386
@carlc6386 Ай бұрын
IJF should realize time has changed. Olympic viewership is not the only way to promote the sport like it was in 2008. It is the era of social media now. Banning leg grab doesn't do you any good on the social media.
@danqfrank44
@danqfrank44 Ай бұрын
Who is that in the video with you interviewing? He looks familiar.
@Chadi
@Chadi Ай бұрын
@@danqfrank44 Gary st Leger
@danqfrank44
@danqfrank44 Ай бұрын
@@Chadi I knew that was him! He came to our dojo a couple months ago. He’s good friends with Sensei Joshua White! Very elite level judoka. I could get absolutely nothing on him. I was like what am I doing wrong?! Until I realized who he was then I was like oh, I’m just not good enough. Many praises for his skill.
@anbernicguy
@anbernicguy 26 күн бұрын
Good news
@MrRourk
@MrRourk Ай бұрын
This is Big News Morgan Level :)
@IRELANDISFORTHEIRISH
@IRELANDISFORTHEIRISH Ай бұрын
The first condition is to initiate a perfect reach around. The second is to make sure they are enjoying the reach around...
@adonis44187
@adonis44187 Ай бұрын
I hope this will also be used outside of Japan
@djri2984
@djri2984 Ай бұрын
But examples of leg grabs in this video are done with two hands. So they still wont be legal. Right?
@Chadi
@Chadi Ай бұрын
@@djri2984 no
@larryzach7880
@larryzach7880 Ай бұрын
Obi tori gaeshi
@_matteo_
@_matteo_ Ай бұрын
Go Japan! Gambare
@behindtheseeyesiseewhatyou8953
@behindtheseeyesiseewhatyou8953 Ай бұрын
This mean Rhadi Ferguson can return at 60 and win a Gold!
@Icesmiiile
@Icesmiiile Ай бұрын
Where is the references?
@sparke7236
@sparke7236 Ай бұрын
When I set up my club students will be doing ALL leg grabs and I won't give a damn what the IJF or anyone else thinks about that. The same applies for a lot of other rules as well. Judo gripping rules are WAY too complex and every rule that is not required for safety only weakens the art.
@vids595
@vids595 Ай бұрын
Why under these two conditions? They do not want it to look like wrestling. But I thought it never did?
@lewispeart2344
@lewispeart2344 Ай бұрын
Those conditions allow for positive upright and aggressive judo, negates all of the negatives we saw in 2008
@behindtheseeyesiseewhatyou8953
@behindtheseeyesiseewhatyou8953 Ай бұрын
Of course they are. Who had an amazing Olympic run in Wrestling???? Japan! lol! Who didn’t do the best in Judo… Japan!
@CyberChud2077
@CyberChud2077 Ай бұрын
Just make Freestyle and Greco-Roman Judo 😁😁
@bobronsons5780
@bobronsons5780 Ай бұрын
I HAVE NEVER CLICKED ON A VIDEO MORE AST IN MY ENTIRE LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Chadi
@Chadi Ай бұрын
@@bobronsons5780 🙇🏻‍♂️
@ilmaio
@ilmaio Ай бұрын
Happy about it! Judo is back.
@keitheager6023
@keitheager6023 Ай бұрын
Please link the article, otherwise its just hearsay.
@Chadi
@Chadi Ай бұрын
lespritdujudo.com/zen-nihon-2025-revolution-a-venir-judo/
@BanjoleleGamer
@BanjoleleGamer Ай бұрын
Wow this is awesome news, hopefully everyone follows suit. I'm an osoto player but Let's start grabbing those legs !!! 💗💗
@drewid3876
@drewid3876 Ай бұрын
Te guruma all the way!
@mathieuzimmer8321
@mathieuzimmer8321 Ай бұрын
This is really big. Back to judo again, stop the shido games and bring in variability. Now bring back Koka and Yuko (or Yuko at least) and we're talking.
@reaper91012
@reaper91012 Ай бұрын
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@bobronsons5780
@bobronsons5780 Ай бұрын
THERE ARE MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY THROWS WITH ONE ARM OR HAND ON THE LEG!!!!! THIS IS EPIC NEWS!
@thinkordie7292
@thinkordie7292 Ай бұрын
Anytime the sportification is being unsportified, it's a great day. 🙏🏾
@MisteryBio
@MisteryBio Ай бұрын
I know a few guys that are not gonna like this one.
@mritchie85
@mritchie85 Ай бұрын
No Morote gari but Kibisu gaeshi is effective too. Morote gari could/should be allowed from a standing position e.g the person attempting the Morote gari knee(s) cannot contact the ground like a wrestling shot. The standing version and one where the rear knee touches down but not the front I learned first from Royce Gracie, whom said a shot onto the lead knee would be bad in a self defence e.g no mat situation and the rear knee first would mitigate this somewhat while still allowing the level change necessary to execute the technique if necessary. Oh and I guess a prerequisite should be having two hand grip before any level change or contact with knees to the ground, also better applicability to a self defence situation where you may be kneed if you didn't have prior control of the legs.
@kosmosgii2535
@kosmosgii2535 Ай бұрын
I thought you were not in favour of leg grabs ?
@marcinzarychta1299
@marcinzarychta1299 Ай бұрын
Bring back yuko on scoring board...
@herlesa2786
@herlesa2786 Ай бұрын
In my humble opinion, this excess of prohibitions in judo has made the sport extremely boring.
@robertselkirkknox1
@robertselkirkknox1 Ай бұрын
They should introduce ground fighting as well.
@johannesandersson9477
@johannesandersson9477 Ай бұрын
Huh?
@icepick_618
@icepick_618 Ай бұрын
​@@johannesandersson9477I think he referring to judo has some submissions that bjj expanded upon
@tomsheppard378
@tomsheppard378 Ай бұрын
Yeah no kimura?😊
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