Legacies 3x02 Rafael Finds Peace in the Prison World - “Always and Forever”

[@livingbyfaith1]

This show is the TVD all over again. Whyy Raf? he deserves so muchhhhh more. Raf is really the Bonnie Bennett version. *crying*

[@juntaudeh2395]

Yes and no. Like in the beginning they did not give him a storyline but he was about to get one. And btw the actor who is playing Rafael left the show for now at least.

@@juntaudeh2395 why did he leave?

[@actuallyimapanda]

I think he wanted to leave the show

[@janderson947]

@@actuallyimapanda honestly could u blame him he wasnt gettingbutilized anyway even mg waa gettingbmire screentime ijs...

[@EeMmAaNnUuEeLl]

Tbh i have always hated Rafael and landon lol and, sorry but no hes no where near like bonnie in any way. Bonnie has given up her life and magic just to protect her freinds and some vampires she met for months. While Rafael has done none of that idk but i always hated him and landon im just waiting to see if landon just leaves for good. (MY OPINION)

[@Duda-vh1cp]

Hope saying always and forever😭

[@booktimebooklove789]

I cried so hard 😥

[@NeverGonnaStop]

It’s from her dad.

[@itts_zah5701]

@@NeverGonnaStop NIKLAUS

[@biglatto_riah6722]

All ik is season 4 they need to bring him back 🥺

[@TheYungSesShow]

Add Raf to the long list of interesting TVD characters they completely misused 🤦. He had so much potential especially his chemistry with Hope and him being in love with which they basically retconned. Now they "kill him off" just when they finally started pushing him and finding out more about his family and being a descendant of King Arthur smh I swear he better come back and not just as a recurring character or guest star smh

[@QuizVibes]

agreed, I hope they got plans to bring him back

[@janderson947]

I was hoping that yang would put out a supernatural beacon to the other supernatural like werewolves, witches,and vampires let them know that hope is a hybrid some will protect her,some will love her landon and some would want her dead and thanks to her before she bbn leaves everyone knows about hope placingbthem in danger sigh julie could do so much better than what she is doing that would be an epic season finale..

[@miraculouslymari281]

They could have easily turned him then waited for him to die so he would come back as a hybrid but no because they knew that he was better with hope then Landon so they just killed him off like what

[@kaylaanderson3372]

They really didn’t want him with hope that’s why they canceled his character

[@fabulousdimples4636]

i mean they tried to do the love triangle thing in s1 because of the promotional pictures of raf, landon and hope & peyton and danielle did a chemistry read so i think it was suppose to go farther but julie just messed it up & gave hope so many love interests which isn't a bad thing, i would love to see her explore her sexuality and options. its kinda bittersweet, i'm glad he's living the normal life he always wanted. but in a article they said this isn't the last will see of him so i think he'll either be in the finale of the season or maybe s4 if it gets renewed.

[@alexjd1278]

@@fabulousdimples4636 he's def coming back it's just a matter on when also i think took him out temporarily so they have less characters and so they have less love interests But now they're adding more characters which is ok but they need to manage their already existing characters better before they add a whole entire school to the cast lol I like raf more with hope than landon but i dont have a problem with either also penelope should come back

[@trevonevans7755]

They didn’t kno what to do with his character so they did this TRASH 🗑 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@jaylennunnally8441]

@@trevonevans7755 no I feel like cause of how many ppl were hating that they’re werent enough to the ogs children in it so they’re slowly getting rid of characters to make roll for the real legacies like bonnies child or Damon and Elenas

[@Wareaglegirl9960]

@@jaylennunnally8441 I can understand Bonnie’s child coming because she would be a witch. But Damon and Elenas children have no supernatural powers so why would they be there? They should have gotten rid of Landon and kept Rafe

[@mumihp]

Well Raf is the 'Bonnie' of the show. It sucks that Raf potential was never realised, why even bring up the King Arthur relation. Raf is still technically alive in the Prison world so I think we will see him in the future, maybe future episodes but don't know if he will come back as a regular series. I guess this is how they wanted to end Raf storyline in season 2 probably as the finale but due to corvid-19, it didn't happen.

[@domananjoka4104]

Yes true and I wanted to see more of him

[@The_Memorial]

How is he the bonnie of the show? I mean Vonnie was the martyr when rafael never saved the day until last episode which was just dumb

[@junii_munii]

I think he will comeback since pretty much he kinda is Arthur,

[@rockerdude8289]

Agree. The "Lady of the Lake" thing oncr again adds more proof that Legacies is basically Monster High and Ever After High.

[@birdiewolf3497]

He is not the Bonnie of the show. I mean for starters he would need to be in the show a lot more to be the Bonnie of the show. Secondly, he would need a martyr complex that he does not have. Like all of Bonnie's family/love interests die to serve her so called friends. She died several times for these people. Raf has not died for everybody. His family is fine. Like I get it. We are still bitter about Bonnie. We still don't trust Julie Plec with black characters. All valid. But we don't have to lie. The truth is this is nothing like the Bonnie situation on TVD. I mean regardless of whether or not you hated it, Bonnie had plotlines. She was an integral part of the mythos. See the way we the show still talks refers to Bonnie? Raf's character was not that. Like day one and the writers had no idea what to do with his character. They would struggle to give this man a shred of a storyline, and it would fizzle out within the episode. And then they completely gave up season 2, they would just write him off. Oh he's a wolf. Oh he's with his dad. Come on. You can be sad about him leaving, but acting like this is Bonnie 2.0 is a lie.

[@Avsbwbsb]

This why you never trust Julie plec

[@jello7177]

I knew that the moment they brought in a dragon to the show, never watched this show again

[@mmarmes24]

I honestly think Julie Plec only gives the best storylines/more screen time to actors/characters that are her favorite. That's why Alaric was able to come back in TVD/for Legacies; he was one of her favorites. The characters she finds less interesting take a backseat. That's what I think.

[@melissateodola1887]

@@mmarmes24 exactly. I was so sad when I watched this episode. I really thought Hope was going to find a solution. There was so much potential for him. I was even thinking he was going to end up with Lizzie.

[@chingchingchingching2064]

@@mmarmes24 The characters she usually doesn't like are the black ones, bro I just want that white woman to stop casting black people in her shows coz she treats them all the same, like crap , it makes me feel bad.

[@noemicp]

Everyone sad about Hope and Raf... What about Landon and Raf?? They are brothers with a beautiful bond and we barely see it because most people is focus on the ships wars 😑😑 Landon and Rafael' scenes in this episode were beautiful, their bond deserved the spotlight it had during this episode 🥰🥰🥰

[@matai_king1857]

I feel like the last two episodes are the most we have gotten as a story line for raf and one of the few times we see him have any friendship with anyone outside of hope and Landon

[@SH-ni1us]

if he doesn't come back I'm never watching legacies again lol

[@hopesfairy8613]

@Draco Tension yaj I think he’s gonna return I don’t think he well be gone forever think about it he’s in the prison world

[@hannahllewellyn163]

I hate good byes 😭😭

[@hopesfairy8613]

@@hannahllewellyn163 me to I also have a raf edit coming tm hope & raf edit ima cry I’ll uploading it 😭😭

[@saisharaovoodi9736]

I swearr

[@hopesfairy8613]

@@saisharaovoodi9736 ima gonna really cry I’ll uploading this Hope & Raf edit on YT

[@chingchingchingching2064]

The way Julie treated Rafael exactly as I expected😂😂😂😂

[@Alleycat806]

Bonnie, Marcel, and now Rafael stay giving of themselves, and stay getting shafted.

[@jello7177]

Marcel isn't dead,nor did he give himself up he was killed by Elijah and came back, you should rather put Klaus, Hayley and Elijah, the three of them scarified themselves for hope, well Elijah just wanted to die alongside his brother

[@alexaperezlopez6018]

everyone sad about hope and raf but STOPPPPP BECAUSE I DID NOT WAIT 2 WHOLE SEASONS FOR RAF AND JOSIE JUST FOR THIS THE POTENTIAL THEY HAD😔💔

[@morganwalker6037]

Thank you .

[@marcospenaandres9210]

Yesss

[@rfv4644]

FOR REAL, I WAS WAITING FOR THE SHIP TO SAIL Edit: sorry for the all caps, I was just so angry that his character had sooo much potential and could’ve been with Josie. Like if josie can’t have landon(glad she can’t) put her with Raf. I was shipping them two since season 1

[@rorylumen3338]

Raf is the male version of Lexi & Jena, the unexplored characters. 😭

[@1kashanti_399]

HOPE AND RAFFF OMGGGG NOOOO WHAT THE HELLL BROOOO 🥺🥺😞💔 THAT SCENE HAD ME CRYING 😞

[@livingbyfaith1]

I did the ugly cry!😭😭😭😭

[@lahchill264]

That hug was long

[@user-lh2fu4nn7o]

I can’t tell if I’m laughing or crying right now. Legacies is so disrespectful to tvd and to. It lowkey seems like a Nickelodeon show with cuss words.

[@melissateodola1887]

I love the characters but every season feels like the first season of TVD. It never progress and they have too many characters and they never focus enough to give each one a character arc.

[@user-lh2fu4nn7o]

it’s not that i don’t like the show. I actually think it’s pretty good, but the fact that it’s in the same universe as tvd and to? Those shows are on another level and compared to them, legacies is trash.

[@Emir_helvacioglu]

Omg I total agree but I still kinda like it tho

[@beautyhurts2038]

I don’t know why hope didn’t just turn him into a hybrid 😭

[@elolojudith505]

Right

[@beautyhurts2038]

@@elolojudith505 Whole time when i was watching the teaser I thought that hope was going to turn him

[@lovesharon6985]

There's always a consequence

[@mpolynice30]

sired to your best friend girlfriend would be awkward but still

[@beautyhurts2038]

@@mpolynice30 I guess but there is a way to break the Sire bound

[@valerias7176]

Why couldn’t they put Landon in the prison world instead he’s so annoying! Raf and hope definitely have more chemistry! Julie is doing it again just like Bonnie could never be happy! I’m done with this show, it’s just gone downhill and is to kiddish now!

[@jello7177]

Wow so you're mad about this show because of a character, not bec of hope not having the power she deserves; stupid and unrealistic characters with no explanation; stupid, childish and Disney-like spells and creatures and the fact that Josie was "*POSSESSED*" by dark magic which is the most stupid thing ever, Davina, Vincent, Freya, Esther, Dhalia, Papa Thunde, Celeste and many others also used dark magic but they did not go possessed

[@janderson947]

@@jello7177 no there are mad because it is Childish they had hope and the three little pigs in josie's MIND like a fairytale like REALLY TVDs and TO was more mature they are in high school but even HARRY POTTER had more MATURITY than they do they could have chose hope being in a coma a great way to see in Hope's mind no we get NOTHING but a true loves kiss to wake hope not landon touching her face holding her hand to wake her up summoning of some of his Phoenix power or something come ON they could do better ..

[@jello7177]

@@janderson947IKR, seriously idk what happened this should've aired on Disney

[@janderson947]

@@jello7177 true or even freeform would have made more grown up just something i get Hope's story would be different not as much bloodshed okay but they are supernatural creatures and random ones we never even heard of some of them make sense others are just dumb idk what julie is doing but she could do better than what she is doing...

[@yaaasante1334]

I was done with this show after I kept on seeing unrealistic monsters and powers...the plotline is just too childish for my adult mind

[@denisheabates4344]

So Rafael did have parents wow 🤩 I will always and forever love ❤️ him

[@daisapilotto713]

hopel is just amazing! Rafael deserves so much better. I am not over this

[@worldofriyah8323]

I’m still watching the show even though the main character is gone but, I’m watching it only for hope, the twins, super squad, and rick

[@lb8324]

So everyone but, Landon and the necromancer😂😂 Honestly, same😂

[@mutesijmariah6198]

Hey. They just sent him to the prison world, and surely it's not the last time we see him in the series. Hafael is still the best tandem and endgame. Hopefully he is still part of the show, coz truly, he was great in his portrayal of Raf.

[@nsgxlonely4814]

Bro it was really sad when he left but this music just make a brother want to cry his heart out truly.

[@meganmichelleamesbury1895]

What the heck! Why is Rafael gone!? He was the only male character that I wanted Hope to be with!!!! He had so much potential in this show!

[@UnchartedSinceBirth]

I really thought that this was the season that him and Hope were going to be together

[@522nibbles]

He seemed more concerned about Hope than he was about Landon in my opinion.

[@radhikaursekar1395]

This is what Damon did for Rose ... ❤

[@gamenmetbritt3491]

Noo 😭❤ my number 3 favo

[@CiaraEliseFlo]

You’d think they would do something more special for raf considering he was one of the first characters introduced on the show.

[@Wolf-xy7xp]

Why didn't Hope just give Rafael her blood? Then when he died he would just come back as a hybrid.

[@AllAboutDayna]

because there was a possibility it wouldn't work and hope probably didn't want to turn him in case he ended up like the guy in the originals

[@trigger2465]

Because the writer wants to move away from the traditional vampire diaries and Orginals methods she just loves to kill people unessary this is so poor

[@serieslover8755]

I think about it too but there is a big possibility that Raf will die and it wouldn't work so the prison world is the best choice I think but if would've been cool if Rafael became a hybrid.

[@mehakahmed110]

@@AllAboutDayna which guy? I think i should watch TO again . Weak memory 😣

[@hannah9560]

@@mehakahmed110 Henry. Hope turned him and he became one of three hybrids. Except he died.

[@ameliarodriguez5665]

Bro I didn’t expect they were going to kill him off the show. I hate when legacies gives us emotional moments like this one 🥺🥺man I can’t believe it

[@miaow0706]

Bruh I like Rafael so much. I'm crying and I don't even know what's going on 😭

[@aldairjoseoriginalseries8795]

Omg Raf 😭😭

[@EduCC09]

Always and forever ❤️

[@purva.ashadha]

And guys this was the moment I stopped watching the show. It looks like CW just kills off all my favourite characters of their shows. They just don't know how to do tv shows anymore.

[@purva.ashadha]

@Draco Tension yaj Landon is boring af

[@tofunmitoyin-gbede7507]

This show just keeps getting worse. Honestly I’ve loved the TVD universe for a long time but I can’t with this show especially when it has soo much potential. I’m really surprised with how this show has been handled.

[@lahchill264]

Awww ngl I cried

[@Lerato_sunflowerbaby]

He has to come back

[@nathanmoore1740]

RAF and Landon. The two brothers that can't ever just be brothers. Someone's running away, or someone is dead. This has been so ridiculous. Julie plec won't let them be like Stefan/Damon, Elijah/Klaus. No, let's keep these characters apart.

[@salomeakuxi9112]

If they black you already know they sacrificing everything for people who barely do anything for them.

[@hirvatrivedi3901]

And brown people are next to non-existant on this show

[@SofiaBerruxSubs]

Really? This has nothing to do with race. The actor wanted to leave the show and so they gave him a way to leave

[@salomeakuxi9112]

@@SofiaBerruxSubs ok.

[@hirvatrivedi3901]

@@SofiaBerruxSubs nooo, that's not what I meant, I definitely get the actor leaving the show, I'm speaking not generally, that I've rarely , if ever, seen a brown person in these TV shows

[@yaaasante1334]

@@SofiaBerruxSubs I bet he wanted to leave,I would too if I only made cameos in two long seasons of a series I signed up for

[@holychaos5398]

Landon and Raf are The elena and Bonnie of the show Lol😆

[@victoriao7060]

Landon should have been the one "finding peace" Y'all writers keeping killing interesting characters

[@serenity9926]

No I want him to go to hell (Landon) I absolutely hate him. Rafael did not deserve to die

[@Spastic_Sarcastic]

Hope has an angelic voice

[@elliexoxo786]

Omgg I acc cried my heart out he was my favourite and I wanted him and hope to get together

[@dcc-randomstorieswithmel7424]

This made me cry so bad

[@lovescience-l4t]

He did I'm so sad right now and also shocked 😭😭😲🥺

[@pricexs4129]

I feel they really didn’t know what to do with his character, but I do believe that he will be back just give it some time

[@IamNyxie]

The episode in general was just sooooo sad😿😿😿😿😿😣😣

[@OmaOmaO]

WTF?! why'd they do raf like this? He finally gets his family back, but he has to lose an entirely different family in the process? Can this kid get a damn break?

[@tanasiamariee605]

HE DESERVED MOREEEEEEE LIKE BONIE

[@kalv6969]

Omg that scene was soooo sad I couldn’t hold my tears 😭

[@carinadosreis7785]

I was sobbing so hard in this episode😭😭😭😭😭

[@marrx3884]

I cried so damn hard

[@catlinoughton4857]

I'm crying not fair why always my favorite ones

[@k.thomaz3339]

Nook Raf was my favorite 💔💔💔💔😢😢

[@aaronzamoragarcia7629]

loved thiss scene

[@QuizVibes]

saddest episode so far 🥲

[@Zith_1213]

Why are you guys using Raf leaving as an excuse to hate on Landon? Raf's actor WANTED to leave so it's not the shows fault.

[@alvinjunior3129]

THaNk YOu

[@rashelvargas3497]

deadass

[@silvereful]

I mean they could've let him die with Hope's blood so that he can come back as a hybrid which would've been awesome and refreshing for the character but ok

[@GermanShepherdDaphne]

Omg wish I had cable

[@chrisalexdavis]

If you're in the US, this comes on network tv. If you have internet access, you can watch Legacies on the CW app for free.

[@RandomGuy-ol4pv]

Is there Something i missed or couldnt hope Just turn him into a hybrid ? Was waiting for it beeing mentioned the entire Episode

[@worldofriyah8323]

We never would know if the show going to be good still if we don’t watch it

[@jello7177]

OK NOW IM MAD, I've tolerated many stupid things in this show, "always and forever" is for THE MIKEALSONS

[@Roblox-rz3wp]

who else cryed?

[@chynawade1184]

I could tell they were getting rid of his character in season 2 bc he didn’t have a lot of screening time I think he still might come back tho but I think there isn’t enough screening time for every main character and since Raf never really had a storyline they found a way plus Jenny said there’s supposed be some new faces this season

[@jessicalam7836]

Has he left the show? I haven't caught up was hoping s3 would be raf and Hope's relationship growing 😭😭

[@denisheabates4344]

I guess wolves and vampires can get along after all

[@estefanyalvd292]

Me parece que es lo mejor que pudieron hacer con el personaje de Rafael, ya lo habían traído como títere en los últimos caps de la temporada 2, EL YA HABIA SIDO ASESINO Y ADEMAS NO ES PROTAGONISTA, en caso de que digan que a Landon también lo mataron, pero este sí es protagonista por ende tiene más sentido que lo revivan.

[@crownaustin7226]

Saddest episode next to Sebastian exile 😭😪😞😔prison World reminds me of American horror story hotel will you can escape and you have to relive the same thing over

[@kidgoku23]

Give us episodes like 2x12

[@LoveMya0]

I can’t understand why they didn’t think to just make him a hybrid🤨 how they gonna do one of my fav characters like that😒

[@oliviapetrova9933]

That's it. I'm not watching this anymore...

[@destinycardenas4379]

Nooooo i can't breathe no this can't happen

[@goldengirls5636]

What i cannot accept this... I like his character 😢

[@telletubby8070]

TVD and TO is all about brotherhood. Idk where this series will go in that line if they kill off Raf.

[@worldofriyah8323]

We think the show not going to be good because raf is gone but we don’t know that

[@karenhernandez5972]

What if Hope turns him into a hybrid.

[@karenhernandez5972]

Now if this is a dumb question and they already tried in the show, forget i even asked i am not cought up.

[@destinycardenas4379]

Raffffffff come back no this can't happen it TVD all over again Nooooooo

[@nayabelova3928]

REMIND ME AGAIN WHY ARE ALL BEST PEOPLE DYING??????

[@joanneevans2908]

Hope he comes back.

[@pacm9744]

I have a question I mean if the prison world can like keep him alive and everything and am sad that he left but are you telling me that if they put the hallow from the originals in there and klaus and Elijah could’ve lived just a question

[@aisacc1]

No, the Hollow was way too powerful

[@The_Memorial]

No. As we saw the pruson world is escapable. Nothing could hold off the hollow. The compined power of the ancestral witches wasnt enough to hold it off when it was dead. Besides then they didnt have a celestial event or an ascendant

[@pacm9744]

@@The_Memorial well damn you got a point

[@pacm9744]

@@aisacc1 Yeah your right but I had hope for a sec

[@The_Memorial]

@@pacm9744 😂

[@tyriemorning8484]

Am i the only one who cried

[@QuizVibes]

I almost cried🥲

[@RUKIANBU]

at least im not the only one mad about this

[@parulpal3839]

Guys he is going to bring sebestian back with him

[@sheriffafarhanah2254]

The prison world Raf went to is it the same one where Sebastian was trapped?

[@AlmightyWitch]

he just died?!

[@gamenmetbritt3491]

No he is by his family in the prison world

[@AlmightyWitch]

@@gamenmetbritt3491 ohhhh i see...

[@rorylumen3338]

Good byes do really suck.

[@ClayWinter1]

So, Josie leaves. Coming back for one episode or permanently in the future possibly, Raf dies, and Alyssa is STILL HERE. See the problem?

[@sweetjoker0813]

Hope n rafael is the endgame. Idc abt landon bruvs

[@ma2261]

I have a feeling he might come back. Cause they've not said he's exited out of bad blood or end of storyline. I think they're building up tension for a future ARC

[@Aeykw]

😭😭😭

[@hadesmikealson8080]

Black boy died first aigan dam somthing don’t change 💔 yu gonplei ste odun

[@hxyleeba3_]

Hold up where can I watch the 3 season?

[@altinaykor364]

I can't believe Raf is gone😢why they had to do this?it's just the beginning of S3 and no where close to the final season😭😭😭

[@trigger2465]

Swear they made this show so lame I could see if why they rejected this before ...vampire diaries and Orginals...I wouldn't be surprised if this gets canceled when ever she gets bored with a series she starts killing off main characters. So stupid

[@jello7177]

The only show that is a disgrace is legacies, TVD and TO were amazing, TO being the best out of the three of them

[@melissateodola1887]

I was hoping Season 3 was gonna be better, but it seems like Julie Plec and the other writers never found a way to bring passion into this show. I was fine with it being more lighthearted, but if it wasn't going to focus on the darkness. Then, why not focus on the characters and the relationships? I think everyone wants Klaus back or even Damon because those were characters who weren't good people, but they were compelling and we cheered for them to get a happy ending. We don't have any characters in Legecies who will kill innocents, toy with people's emotion, or cross the line at any moment, but still love them. If Hope had been more like her father maybe I would like this show a little more. Maybe Lizzie could have been that, especially with how everyone talked about her in Season 1.

[@melissateodola1887]

@Anthony Griffin right?! Can we stop the weekly monster thing and just get more from the characters? If they cut at least half of the action we could get more character development.

[@melissateodola1887]

@Anthony Griffin wait, are you asking about the voice over?

[@melissateodola1887]

@Anthony Griffin exactly!! Caroline wasn't the best in the beginning of season 1, but when she became a vampire we saw her shine. I thought we would get that from a few characters in Legacies, but they didn't grow at all. There's potential for Lizzie to be the Caroline of the group, but most of her backstory is more tell then show. The show don't tell thing is also what upsets me about this show because it rarely shows. They like telling us that Lizzie was going through a lot, but they rarely showed us what she went to except for a few time and it never went to the levels I thought it would.

[@ellanoredizon2264]

Where can I watch season 3 in Australia

[@blackroseenya]

Nooooooooo😭😭😭😭😭😭not raff😭😭😭please noo😭

[@delilah2539]

So, I know most people are upset by this episode because they felt like Raf deserved better. And their not wrong, Raf did deserve better. But at the same time I feel like he got what he wanted. Raf never wanted to be special, all he wanted was he's family and friends. He may be stuck in a prison world, but he's with he's family, and he's friends can visit him anytime they want.

[@domananjoka4104]

Noo unfair y u do this I wanted to see more of raf

[@precious9495]

This is why I said something is wrong with this show and yet am going to still watch it