The RAREST Of All The Model 1911 Pistols | North American Arms

[@Tonyclifton-q4f]

hello from Australia,growing up in the bush guns were commonplace and as a young kid we used them to earn a lil spare change in keeping the rabbit population down ,mid 1990s a fella went on a rampage in Tasmania and the goverment took all our arms ,thank the lord for this channel as i find it very informative

[@williamgunnarsson]

I fervently hope, Mr.Ness, that you and your countrymen can regain your freedom to once again own your own firearms. This is an outrageous infringement on your rights to be a free people. We here in the US are constantly having to guard our gun rights, even though our Bill of Rights enumerates our rights explicitly. There are always and forever some wanker politicians looking to eliminate the 2nd amendment to our constitution that protects our gun rights. I hope that in the near future you'll be able to enjoy the freedom to own firearms again.

[@M8Military]

You chose to turn them in. A large percentage of people kept them in secret and ammunition is still for sale

[@Tonyclifton-q4f]

@@M8Military man if you get caught with a semi ,its straight to jail ,no pass go no bullshit its full on

[@williamgunnarsson]

@@M8MilitaryYou say that ammunition is still being sold, but wouldn't the fact that you're purchasing ammunition indicate that you haven't complied with the gun ban ? Just asking.

[@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr]

Fk the new world order. It may be time to fight soon. It’s getting bad in the antipodes.

[@dav1941]

The rarest 1911A1 if it exists is the Harrington and Richardson. 20 were made but most likely destroyed because they were not accepted by the military. They got the initial contract as Singer did in 1942 to make 500 examples. That would be amazing if one of those turned up.

[@pb68slab18]

I've seen slides, but never saw a verified complete pistol.

[@thetoneknob4493]

savage also made a few or at least the slides and some other parts that did end up on guns

[@ericpitre4031]

This channel is too Kewel! So much to learn. I had an ffl in ‘97. Sold 37 guns. Im getting a 1965 Colt Gold Cup in a few years(inherent). Like brand new. Im gonna take it to gun shows and tease dealers/ collectors. ✌️✌️

[@grayharker6271]

Back in the 80s my room mate picked a Singer out of a box of SF arms room 45s. He carried it the whole time he was on a team. When he left group, he turned it back in to the armor. I love to remind him he HAD a Singer and didn't keep it!

[@granddad-mv5ef]

Absolutely amazing, Tom. Until today I had never even heard of this model. Thank you for the knowledge!

[@Pirate85_Original]

That are not little Derringers NAA does, that are little Revolvers. And they´re awesome :)

[@RickJZ1973]

Tom, Thanks for making and sharing this video of an incredibly rare 1911 with a single digit serial number. Great presentation on it. North American Arms 1911 rarely become available for sale. Probably difficult for you to not want to keep it in your own collection.

[@kbjerke]

Thanks for showing us this rare model! And if I might add, there was yet another Canadian manufacturer with a similar name - *North America Arms* (not North *American* ) located in Toronto, Ontario, from about 1959 to 1962. They manufactured rifles based on SAKO actions, and designed a prototype 45 caliber pistol based on the Browning Hi-Power. Called the Brigadier, and chambered for a proprietary cartridge, (45 NAACO) it never saw production. The 45 NAACO was resurrected decades later, and became the 45 Winchester Magnum. I have one of their 22 caliber single shot rifles, and can attest to the high build quality. Sad that the company failed.

[@Jethlin2020]

Every time I think I've seen the best, you come up with something better!

[@mrgfix]

It is an "A" for American Pin Company. One of 5 manufactures to produce magazines to Colt during WWI.

[@bassmangotdbluz3547]

Bravo Mark for that nugget!

[@mrgfix]

@@bassmangotdbluz3547 I am still looking for some of the early mags to go with my 1918 Colt 1911.

[@Covert_Arrangements]

@@mrgfix I just purchased a nickel plated Colt Government model that was made in 1917. I don’t know much about them but I have an Definitely in the early stages of this new addiction. 😆

[@mrgfix]

@@Covert_Arrangements The Model 1911 and Model 1911A1 Military and Commercial Pistols (For Collectors Only) Paperback - December 11, 2017. Good read and good information.

[@josephstabile9154]

Thx for this video. You are constantly expanding the horizon of knowledge--certainly mine! My Bible for the 1911 is the Bady book, but this video shows again how a book is a snapshot in time, but learning is ongoing. I noticed a detail difference in your viz-a-viz comparison of the N.A.Arms 1911 to the Colt 1911: the rear sight of the N.A.Arms example was wider, that is to say, the sides were not rounded as on the Colt (200K serial range?) I was once the proud owner of a ~1st year production govt. Colt 1911 (low 37K range, no 1913 patent date) that was 99%. Its features closely matched the one you showed. In a moment of what I can now only describe as utter senselessness, I sold that gun, along with a correct vintage, mint, unopened pasteboard pkg of Frankford Arsenal .45 ACP! But, everyone that collects has one of THOSE.stories...

[@joshuagibson2520]

I'd never "send" a NAA or even a Singer anywhere. Regardless of insurance. It can't be replaced and there are a finite amount.

[@skigdividerx4991]

Me either but we're not rich. Only the rich end up with the super rare stuff. They don't cherish things like people that have worked hard for every dime they have and save to buy just a off the shelf gun.

[@BlackAnvil47]

I met a young lady here in Virginia, that was given an unfired 1911 to her from her grand father that received it from his father that got the weapon during WW1. It's still in the original box with the wax paper. At the time she shown me that weapon she was joining the U.S. Air force...that has been about 6-7 years ago. Only recently have I by chance seen her about 3 months ago and asked did she still have the weapon. And she said yes and she has never fired that weapon. She said she took my advice and chose not to shoot it. Yet when interest sparked about the weapon, she said Military Personnel demanded she turn over the weapon because it was stolen....she quickly put all claims to rest because she has the receipt from her Great Great grandfather receiving it. As when she showed me the weapon then I told her to give it a family member she trust or get a reliable safe a Liberty 🗽 safe. Or a safe deposit box until you decide to do with the weapon as you see fit.....

[@dukecraig2402]

No such thing as a firearm that's "never been fired", they're all proof fired by the manufacturers, maybe even by the military as part of the acceptance process but definitely by the manufacturers.

[@nickfranklin1867]

That's a fascinating story, you learn something new every day

[@sami_am7860]

Tom, I enjoy all your videos tremendously. You are my go to university when it comes to firearms. I quote you often in discussions on firearms in South Africa. Thank you for sharing all your (never too much) insights.

[@fordguy3032]

Great video and history lesson on North American Arms 1911. I was fortunate to purchase a CMP , Remington Rand (born June of 45) 1911 in May 2019. This was the first round of CMP lottery.

[@timnavarrette3274]

What is the he price for a CMP 45ACP???

[@fordguy3032]

Mine is a service grade which was best offered. It was $1050 in 2019.

[@para1324]

Another brilliant historical episode and very informative. Your research is outstanding. Your channel is the best in the USA hands down. 👏👍🇺🇸

[@firespec6603]

Hello, as always, very professional ... for some time I have been watching your videos ... which are very interesting and at the same time bring you closer to history .... Best regards from Poland 👍

[@horseteeth6139]

You got me Tom. Didn't know this gun existed. Thank you

[@hughmarloweverest1684]

Thank you for the video and the care in making and presenting it.

[@DB-yj3qc]

I wish I could have kept the 1911 I was issued and carried in Desert Storm especially after seeing this video. I knew it wasn't a common manufacturer, it was arsenal modified to 1911a1 from 1911. Now I know it was a WW1 vintage.

[@noahlauzon8162]

wow that's wild that they were still running those old guns at that time! what is it difference between 1911 and 1911a1?

[@wes11bravo]

​@@noahlauzon8162- the most obvious difference is the relief cut on the frame around the trigger. There are some other differences too. But yep, there were definitely M1911s in the inventory up til the 80s and some are even being sold off with all the other M1911A1s by the CMP.

[@hodl6644]

Enjoyed the video. I am fortunate to have inherited my grandfather's Springfield Armory 1911 he was issued in WWI.

[@kenibnanak5554]

I saw one in 1975 in a Las Vegas pawn shop window. It had been 'bubbad' by Interarms into being one of their Silver Cup pistols. All I could do was stare at it in shock at the idea that someone at Interarms had thought that was a good thing to do to a North American Arms Co. 1911. With hindsight I should have bought it as that was the last time I ever saw one in the flesh. :)

[@browngreen933]

If it was an actual Silver Cup it wasn't Bubbad so much as a surplus, scrapped or reject North American slide fitted to a new Interarms frame. Silver Cups were assembled from surplus parts.

[@stephenhowald5797]

The NAA is the rarest 1911. The Singer is the rarest 1911 A1.

[@browngreen933]

Thank you. Important distinction.

[@denisvermeirre1024]

10:41 The angle of the writing makes it appear like the gun was on an angle relative to the tooling when the mark was applied.

[@csxt143]

Always something good on your channel.

[@dhruvpuri6728]

Awesome video, didn’t know these existed I though the singers were the rarest! Thank you for the information, I always enjoy watching your videos.

[@daleparker4207]

Love your videos. Always learn something new. Thank you.

[@bobspistolsandpaydirt8607]

Wow! I learned something today…… never knew this company made 1911’s. Very cool….. thanks so much for sharing.

[@grayharker6271]

My CMLW series 80 has a scratch where the link take down pin/slide stop rubs on the frame. No matter how hard I tried, I still scratched it. For some reason it makes me happy to see the same scratch on this one and the Singer.

[@raylang339]

Glad to know one of my favorite pistol model was made in my home town of Quebec city. Good video as always.

[@RAGE-OF-SPARTA-X]

Back in July i inherited a JSB 1911A1 that my grandfather left for me, he carried it in the Korean war and maybe Vietnam (I’m not sure). Unfortunately the original finish is gone so it’s value is significantly diminished but it’s still one of the few JSB’s out in the wild as well as a family heirloom with great sentimental value. The singer 1911A1’s are of much higher quality with tighter tolerances thus making them much more valuable but in terms of scarcity I believe there’s fewer known JSB’s out there than singers.

[@cbroz7492]

Finish is really not that important (barring rust, corrosion and pitting) if it has a rare inspectors stamp...on top of it being a US Property marked 1811

[@RAGE-OF-SPARTA-X]

@@cbroz7492 in this instance there was a chrome plating applied, I’m pretty sure this was a common thing to do back in the day. It’s definitely a 0% gun now.

[@cbroz7492]

@@RAGE-OF-SPARTA-X OK...I understand now...I hate seeing that kind if 'bubbaization' myself.. I collect...or collected...C&R for a long time.. about 30 years...refinishing always destroys collector value and bad refinishing is an affront to the eyes and souls of collectors everywhere...

[@thetoneknob4493]

@@cbroz7492 yup i bought a 1942 colt1911a1 for 300$ because it had ben polished and blued wen it was converted into a match pistol. the guy at the gun shop explained to me that it was essentially worthless now, i asked how worthless he said 300$ i said sold! also came with a shoe box full of parts and mags, witch contained all the original parts and a micro adj sight and 3 two toned mag 2 wer very early and one keyhole mag...i sold those for more than the whole lot cost me! its the best 1911a1 ive ever shot by far!

[@MGB-learning]

Outstanding video and presentation.

[@mabbrey]

great vid tom

[@sammartinez8084]

Great show my friend and thanks for the info 👍👍👍👍

[@russellricobene9315]

Thanks for the education,very interesting.I hope to run across something that rare.

[@Covert_Arrangements]

Wow!! What an amazing 1911. As a collector of older Colts one could only DREAM of having one of these. 🤠

[@REAPERofCali]

Love the history. Thank you for sharing.

[@oldgoat1890]

Maybe the "9" is an inverted "6"? I used to see a few slides marked "Swissvale Pennsylvania". I don't remember if there was a manufacturer stamped on it or not.

[@misterfats123]

I love watching your videos . Keep the great videos coming

[@jimmccue577]

Great video! Very informative! Keep it up!

[@piotrmroz7213]

Great episode👍 Thank you 🤗

[@jaredceccarelli]

It kills me thinking about the unaccounted for guns. Like theses the singers, etc. You know somebody somewhere had a jem that got traded for a $50 gift card and got melted 😢

[@manfredrichthofen2494]

There was a WWl "Norwegian made 1911.45, which I remember, you featured sometime ago..made at Kongsberg.

[@ETHRON1]

I saw your video on the singer, I really enjoyed it and learned alot. Same for this one. Subbed.

[@steven-k.]

There was a North American Arms 1911 taken off a druggie in Montreal years ago, I've been looking for the article but I can't find it, it was in Gun Week though and various other places, I remember it. It was quite a long time ago now, maybe 20 years? The QPP said they would give it to a museum, so presumably it's in a police museum somewhere in Quebec. At the time I remember the article saying it was worth C$100,000 and this guy was some low level drug dealer or something along those lines.

[@technologyinnovationandwar7583]

Interesting, thanks very much!

[@AntonioOrtiz-g5i]

Great video....like always lot to learn from the old days

[@shawnmckenzie1786]

Great education

[@rickymherbert2899]

Kudos to you Tom; actually showing us a pistol that Gun Jesus hasn't covered - yet! 😇 I certainly learnt quite a lot today from this about 1911s. Thank you and enjoy your weekend. 👍 Meanwhile in Tucson, Arizona a certain bearded gun prophet is hurriedly rummaging thru his collection to find an even rarer 1911. 😄

[@Teleman01]

I love the old 1911s

[@sgtjarhead99]

Not that I can afford either, but I’d much rather have a Singer. Scarcity is not the only thing.

[@cbroz7492]

Bloody excellent presentation..until this point I'd only HEARD of the North American...had never actually seen one...samecwoth the Singer...

[@alanhope1190]

Thanks for the great info, sir!

[@bmxriderforlife1234]

Canadian here. The Ross is a sporting rifle. It wasn't poor quality but it wasn't designed for combat and performed poorly in such conditions. The original bolt was also a not the best design. They won the military contract through friend connections and kickbacks. They're actually good quality rifles.

[@Chiller01]

It is somehow gratifying to me that the rarest of all 1911’s was manufactured in Quebec. If you knew anything about Quebec it’s not surprising that a couple guys with no experience got a contract for 500K pistols. By the time Ross made the final tweaks on his rifle it was a very good quality sporting gun. Prized by snipers in WW1 for its accuracy. It wasn’t a good rifle for a conscript big army.

[@allangibson2408]

The Ross rifle was what happens when an army issues a target rifle as standard (the quality control was as questionable as the American 1903 Springfield’s of the same era (for exactly the same reasons)).

[@bruceperkins6844]

I really like your videos and have purchased from you. Could you post a photo of your research library? I mean Chuck Clawson and his books cover this. I am not being crappy just wonder how your shop does it's research.

[@jensenwilliam5434]

Thank you!!!

[@normanbraslow7902]

I thought the rarest was either the 1911 made by Singer. Fantastic.

[@mcaste8495]

Great video, enjoyed it. Great work.

[@yankeecornbread8464]

I’ve run out of Sig P226 videos to watch. What better place to start on 1911 videos than here?

[@Myhandlenagluho]

Thank you for this very interesting video

[@peteengard9966]

You have to wonder how many rare 1911s were butchered by army armors. Stationed in Germany in 1982 my issued 1911 had parts from several manufacturers. The slide was so worn out it hardly locked back, the mag well was loose enough I had to keep pressure on it to feed the next round. It was not very reliable. My grease gun was in far better condition.

[@cbroz7492]

Same here, my friend...I was stationed in Illesheim from 8 Nov 71 to 18 Jul 74...many of our 1911s were beaters also. My Grease Gun ( it was still the standard weapon for armor crews) had a worn sear...which my dad told me was a common problem in his day..mine kept running after I released the trigger..I got a nasty look from the sergeant on the range but I kept the muzzle pointed down range until the mag ran dry..

[@cbroz7492]

In my day the company armorers were usually the sorriest soldiers...put in the arms room to keep an eye on him/them. Thec armorer of HHC 4/35 Armor was playing with my personal Ruger Blackhawk...most likely by 'fanning' the hammer..after I brought it home,dad had to send it back to Ruger for repsir...Ruger replaced the broken 'hand' at no charge...but yes, most armored WERE sorry soldiers back in the day...

[@oldgoat1890]

I was over there in the early 80's too. I was in a unit up north that was created about 2-3 years before I got there. Units rotating out were giving up some weapons to fill the new units. That is how they got rid of their worst stuff. I saw a lot of 1911 pistols and parts. I remember a Colt M-2 with a 4 digit serial number. It had oval cut outs in the barrel support. I started a shitstorm when I coded out so many M-60's for rivet failure it cleaned out all the stock of USAE.

[@paulscountry456]

Lol,I ran a arms room at 2nd AD fwd in Germany in mid 80s and that was my experience too,sloppy mismatched Ithaca this Remington Rand that Colt this...they were horrible all around.

[@peteengard9966]

@@paulscountry456 I was in a forward support maintenance battalion. Tankers were the worse. They would drag stripped down M60s out of their motor pool to the field so we would have to fix and rebuild. Five mechanics and fifteen parts runners were needed to get them going again. Four years in Germany and don't get me started on REFORGER,s. Most of those were 23 on 1 off for weeks. I fell asleep at a traffic light driving my wrecker, foot on the clutch trans in first. From the early morning until the sun beating on my face woke me up. Nobody bothered me for hours. Fun times. Way better than Korea.

[@AdamosDad]

My watch pistol aboard USS Newport News (CA-148) was a Colt 1911, I remember bitching that it was so sloppy and worn out that if I had to use it, I probably couldn't hit anything. Wish I had it now.

[@harrylime8077]

One doesn’t think of Canada as maker of weapons, wasn’t the Browning ‘High Power’ made in Toronto back in the day?

[@LegacyCollectibles]

Yes, it was the Inglis High Power

[@skigdividerx4991]

Rarity doesn't always mean money. The Singer is worth way more because it was made by a company that made precision machines before the war.

[@regisjohanns3945]

We had some Singers in our arms room in 1989 Nebraska National Guard.

[@828enigma6]

Wonder if a few more of these are still in private hands in Canada? We can hope. Reference NAA having no experience in building firearms, Glock had no experience either, and theirs turned out well, and had gotten better.

[@Sman7290]

Please make sure that Othias at C&Rsenal gets a look at that.

[@jmartin9059]

*Cool old example of early 1911 . Thank you for sharing this. I might want a MODERN FAKE, self made & self marked 1911. WITH NO ATTEMPT TO MIMIC markings of others. IF I ever think that I could safely do that ... I just might.*

[@TheDucatiMan1]

May I correct your post, the pistol is a 1911 but your statistic slide shows it as a 1911A1. A minor thing, but I would like to tell you that several years ago, before handguns were banned in the UK, I owned a 1911 which had been supplied new to the British army in WW1 chambered in the British calibre of .455 Webley. Mine was one of the very few survivors of the war (I believe only 23) which were then transferred to the newly formed in Royal Air Force in 1923 and stamped with RAF on the slide. I used it in a club for target shooting and fitted a .45acp barrel and magazine and three-spot target sights. Despite its age it was reliable and in good condition. I had to hand it in to the police after the Labour government banned handguns and I gave up my shooting sport. I do have a photo of it.

[@williamgunnarsson]

Damn it ! I wish the people of the UK would combine forces and figure out a way to get your guns back, or the right to own them, at least. Did they compensate you for your gun ? Probably not, the wimp-ass wankers. How did they know you had it ? Too bad you couldn't have kept it on the sly. Good luck to you over there. We're struggling to keep ours over here.

[@TheDucatiMan1]

@@williamgunnarsson Yes I was compensated by the government William, but the money was soon spent and now i have neither the money nor the pistol... I also lost to them three other pistols, one being a Webley Mk6 with a recorded history from WW1. It had been carried by a Captain in the Manchester Regiment which is where I'm from. Like thousands of others I handed in my Firearms Certificate (where all the pistols were listed) and took up archery instead. I do have some air guns including a 1911 replica, but i keep them at my house in Spain. I envy the freedom you have in the USA. Hang on to it my friend.

[@williamgunnarsson]

@@TheDucatiMan1 Once again, greetings from Jacksonville, Florida ! Your WW1 Webley mk6 is a highly collectible firearm that cannot be replaced for any amount of money. Those politicians should be made to regret their decision to confiscate ANYTHING from a hard working and patriotic population that pays their taxes and means them no harm. Your ability to defend your family and community is everyone's God-given right as human beings. In the event of a home invasion, which could include several miscreants, are you supposed to turn into a Bruce Lee, or do they expect you to eat bullets or something ? Confiscating guns is the most egregious violation of human rights that a government can inflict on their own people. I don't have the answers for you, but I hope that this can be reversed in the near future. Gun owners in the US are constantly under siege by government agencies who want to make their own gun laws that conflict with our Constitution. It is always a priority for any Democrat president. That's why I don't understand why so many people voted for Biden. I'm sorry you lost your guns. Here in America, many folks would rather buy a gun from a friend or a private individual. If you purchase a gun through a federally licensed gun dealer, your transaction is recorded. If you join a pro-gun organization like the National Rifle Association, their records are subject to gov't audit. Oh, well. We'll just have to do what we can.

[@TheDucatiMan1]

@@williamgunnarsson So we now have a situation where the only people with guns are the military (which once incuded me, I was a firearms instructor in the RAF VRT), the police, and the criminals. I don't feel any safer, and I'm always apprehensive when I see an armed policeman. I can recount 5 separate instances of innocent people being shot dead by British Police. Many thanks William for your responses to my post. Best wishes to you and yours from North Wales.

[@williamgunnarsson]

@@TheDucatiMan1 Hello Geoff ! I've only seen North Wales briefly on a British TV show called Escape to the Country that runs on public television ( PBS ). Do you live out of town or in a city ? The countryside is quite wonderful there, as it is throughout the British Isles. I've only been to England one time for 3 days in 1963. When I was 15 yrs.old, I lied about my age and hired myself out on an Icelandic trawler. We steamed south and passed through Scapa Flow on the way to Grimsby to sell our catch. Not enough time to appreciate your country, but I had fun while I was there. One would think that you, having been a firearms instructor, would be trusted to keep your arms responsibly. To disarm the citizenry is taking away an aspect of it's sophistication and positive development of any society. Having the power of life and death in your own hands, creates an inherent sense of responsibility and maturity that is very important to any society. When only government authorities have such power, it necessarily makes for an atmosphere of distrust, since you have been assumed by them to be inferior, unintelligent and incapable of proper decision making in regard to your safety and the protection of your own families. Our 2nd amendment to the Constitution was originally meant to balance the power between government and the citizenry. Anything the government had in the way of arms could be owned by us, as well, absolutely unhindered. Our right to keep and bear arms was never to be infringed upon by way of any laws, restrictions or exclusions of any kind. In fact, the vast majority of artillery pieces used by George Washington during our war for independence, had been in the possession of common ordinary citizens and donated ( not confiscated ) to the war effort. Of course, back then our Founding Fathers had no way of knowing the extent to which arms would develop. I don't expect to be permitted to maintain an arsenal of nuclear artillery of my own, for instance, but "We the People" have the authority via our Constitution to confiscate, by force if necessary, such war materiel and wrest it from the hands of a tyrannical government. That is the general purpose of the 2nd amendment to the Constitution. That's why I became a federally licensed gun dealer. To place a firearm in the hands of as many lawful citizens as I could, so as to protect our rights and our American heritage. As a free man, I don't have to explain to anyone why I wish to own a gun. No one else determines whether I need it or not. That is my decision, alone. It can't be assumed that I intend to use it for illegal purposes. They can't presume guilt in advance, but that's what most governments want to do, claiming they are preventing crime. Ok, I guess I should try to get some shut-eye. Been up all night. I'm retired, you see. Night or day means nothing to me now. Sorry to have talked your ear off. Please take care and " Don't give up the ship ! "

[@mrhamburger6936]

3 months from now you're going to come out with a rarer than that one

[@wooddawg4868]

I am amazed even now the 1911 design is still copied. I have a Springfield armory 1911 in stainless steel 45acp made in 2019. My dad has a Colt 1911 made in 1983 and it just as functional as my stainless 2019 model, he just had all the springs replaced and a extended beavertail put on, I bought him some Wilson Combat and Cobra magazines and he Carrie’s that sucker every day now.

[@earlwallace8085]

Does the trigger guard look a little bit “beefier” than on the Colt?🤔

[@828enigma6]

I think it does, but it might be a mater of perspective and camera angles.

[@SeanieVoiceOver]

15:50 Queen Victoria died 1901 a decade before the appearance of the 1911

[@enricomandragona163]

All Guns from each manufacturer were made to speck!! So all parts can interchange!! The diamonds top and bottom dictated the cross diamond's in between. The slide wear is from the holster bolster snap on the inside of the leather.

[@Paladin1873]

Possibly the rarest 1911 is the Colt stainless steel prototype made during WWII (I think). Also during WWII GM developed about 20 stamped 1911 pattern pistols which were so crude and heavy that a Hi Point is lithe and elegant by comparison. Then there is the 1924 (?) Colt 1911/A1 transition model, of which I believe 10,000 were made.

[@marcusriley6904]

Since it's mostly under the grip I would suspect the tannins in the wood reacted to the finish.

[@wes11bravo]

I grew up in Pittsburgh. I've heard apocryphal stories years ago about people seeing M1911A1s with no markings on them at local gun shows in the 70s - 80s. They were "lunchbox pistols" acquired Johnny Cash style (one piece at a time, haha) then assembled at home by workers at Union Switch and Signal. Have you or any subscribers seen such an example?

[@davidbernardmendez9985]

What about Llama 1911 which I was Issue one Vietnam 1966 25th Inf. actually, they sound rather like musical maracas. I have been told they were made in Spain. David B. Mendez

[@stevebossie5803]

i had a singer issued to me in Korea in 1991. wish i was stateside as it would have been (lost).;)

[@Foche_T._Schitt]

Looks like they turned a #6 punch upside down.

[@richhiway]

Always interesting.

[@donkeziah2564]

The longer spur on the NAA 1911 would be more likely to bite the web of your hand than the shorter hammer spur on the Colts 1911 pistol. A longer grip safety spur (beaver tail) was done to reduce hammer bite by the hammer spur on the 1911A1 pistols.

[@russjordan243]

I’ve got a REM UMC frame with a very early (1912) Colt slide that has the rampant colt behind the serrations inside a circle. Augusta re armored. X serial number

[@casualobserver77]

Derringers fold open, usually with two barrels. Those are mini revolvers and North American Arms are the best. I have a sidewinder in 22 wmr and it's superbly built.

[@pb68slab18]

First time I heard about the uncheckered hammer spur! 👍

[@tyrant2all892]

I have been watching several of your M1911A1 videos and you seem very knowledgeable on these pistols. Maybe you can be of some help? I recently acquired an m1911a1 from the CMP 1911 program. I have been doing extensive research on the serial number and markings. So, here are some details. It appears to have the original military finish (not the factory blued finish) It has a Remington Rand slide and a 1938 Colt frame. Research keeps coming back that the 1938 Colt is one of the rarest and hard to find with a total of only 1296 produced and less than 50 accounted for. I have been reading that this contract was shipped to the Navy prior to the war many of them sadly may have went down with the fleet at pearl harbor. I know not having the original finish and mismatched slide would hurt its value, but is the colt frame indeed really that rare? And if so, what kind of value could it have? It does not have any re arsenal marks. It has the P stamp above the mag release and the H stamp below the mag release with the Colt P inside triangle mark, the 60 and W stamp on the forward of the trigger guard. Thank you for any info you can provide.

[@Ryan-lz8zm]

Great video, minor gripe, the flickering monitor behind you was really distracting/irritating.

[@chrisgabbert658]

My old 45 has plastic grips.

[@throatpunch4789]

He said h.i.p.a.a violation. Lol hahaha😂

[@naji2naji]

I'm just wondering, why the gov contracted Singer to manufacture the 1911 for WWII, when Colt built the 1911 for WWI? Though, Singer made the Holly Grail!!!

[@manfredrichthofen2494]

To my knowledge, SINGER was a " dry run " by the US government to find out what would be the problems if a non- Firearms manufacturing company Will face should they suddenly switch to making firearms. As a result, many non- making companies like General Motors, were able to switch to firearms Making 🙏

[@naji2naji]

@@manfredrichthofen2494 it make sense, thank you and much appreciated.

[@964cuplove]

The nine could be an upside down 6 if the are stamped manually that could occur (especially this early on in the run) ?

[@shoot4fun663]

Maybe the 9 was actually a 6 stamp that they turned upside down

[@georgekoribanic2524]

Seizure warning. (possibly?) just wanted to throw this out there in case someone has Epilepsy or something. My lil cousin used to have seizures a lot, the flickering of the computer monitor behind you would of triggered it for him. But he died because someone left the gate to the pool open and my aunt was taking a short nap and I think you can tell where this is going. He drowned to death sadly. He was 5. His name was Ryan and he didn't speak very much but he'd hug you for sure, that was his thing; I guess. Brains are something else, I'm telling you.

[@JimSmith-sj2tb]

Sedgley also made slides for Colt

[@browngreen933]

Were they Sedgley marked in any way?

[@Kirtkeller-ge8qz]

You missed the unique characteristics of the main spring housing. Not drilled for a lanyard loop nor is the bottom of the mainspring housing coved to clear the lanyard. No other mainspring housing is configured in this manner.

[@donkeziah2564]

I received an education from your video on the "Rarest" 1911 being the North American Arms guns. I thought the NAA's were 1911A1. Being the NAA guns "ARE" 1911's. Therefore the NAA are the rarest 1911s The Singer guns are 1911A1's, therefore the Singers are the "Rarest" 1911A1 pistols. Nitpicking for sure but true in each case. I definitely enjoy your videos!!!

[@bmxriderforlife1234]

I think the video is gone but Ian deffs talked about these. How I even knew what they were.

[@maverickfoxbmsn]

Correct me if I’m wrong from what I’ve heard a Singer M1911’s price can go for 100k now imagine the price of a much rare North American M1911.

[@LegacyCollectibles]

Yes, the one we sold went for just under 100,000

[@ripper888888]

Excellent video, and very informative. If I may, just one small comment. The blue computer screen in the background was flickering and very distracting. Not complaining, just an FYI. Wish I had some funds to expand my 1911 collection. Have a 1918 Colt and had a Remington Rand for a while