"Black Widow" Luger - Real or Fake?

In this video, Tom shows us what to look for when determining if a "black widow" Mauser Luger is real or fake...
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[@stephenbarabas6286]

Put the GunBroker seller's screen name up...

[@Futureshucks]

Not in the market and not in the US, no dog in the fight. That said, your credentials as a reputable dealer are hugely weakened by the fact you will sell "faked" guns at all, even with a disclaimer. If you are a reputable dealer, you should only sell legitimate pieces. Stopped watching at that point where you said you'll sell them.

[@CameronMcCreary]

I used to work for John V. Martz the Luger Carbine maker and I liked working on DWM pistols but never cared for the "Black Widow" P08.

[@Foche_T._Schitt]

If I had money for 5000+ dollar Lugers I would get a lawyer and go after the seller for fraud.

[@ScottBrown-zz4sk]

January 6th is two more days.

[@altamiradorable]

The camera work is less than desirable ! So sad !

[@countschad]

Nobody watches on computers anymore...😂

[@staceyalbright3323]

Fake modern replica

[@notnowchief.3089]

You have to wonder if the actual forger of this Black Widow is watching this Taking Notes for what NOT TO DO in the future . ..LOL

[@thelastjohnwayne]

Tom you should publicly expose these FAKE sellers

[@jamesboring6445]

Thanks for putting out these educational and helpful videos Tom. Its too easy nowadays to get scammed and you're helping to counter that trend tremendously.

[@daveadock2874]

Great video with excellent explanations of how to spot a fake. You are correct in not destroying the firearm. It is best to broadcast it to the public and I'm sure it would make a wonderful shooter grade handgun for someone on a budget.

[@danhavis6838]

Great video, Tom!

[@norduferhandel4512]

I worked for a class 3 manufacturer and he had a friend that was also a class 3 manufacturer that guy had a industrial grade Pantagraph machine and he would make all the Waffen amp stamps for a particular type of weapon.

[@sidtp7307]

Learned a lot. Thanks! I went to Ralph Shattuck’s house in Arizona around 1999 and saw his impressive collection in his walk in safe room. I got a mint 1934 Swiss Contract DWM in 7.65 that he said was from some collector’s estate and was likely never fired after the factory, and a 1914 DWM Naval Luger with a long barrel and artillery sights in 9mm also in mint condition but probably fired a few times. I also got a copy of his book.

[@MickeyD2012]

You are doing the world a great service, thank you.

[@Skybluecloud9]

You can't beat them black grips they just set it off perfectly

[@michaelmayo3127]

The grips on the Luger are Bakelite the very first industrial plastic material. Bakelite is a hard resin that's heated in an oven and then pressed in to shape using a form mounted in a hydraulic press. If one doesn't have the press or the Bakelite bricks, then it's nigh impossible to make components that look like Bakelite. The pistol grips showed are cast, hence all the bubbles.True Lugar grips are pressed.

[@josephbrands6303]

Buyer beware is the best rule when buying high dollar guns, Always do your research!!!!

[@kennethrouse7942]

Thanks, Tom, for an excellent and informative video. I used to see Ralph Shattuck at the MAX Show, but first met him when his wife and he came to Germany on vacation, and we were at the came Biergarten table. We immediately found that we were both Shriners and had a nice conversation.