Legal Pyros: The Future of Tifo Culture?

Pyro has always been an essential part of fan culture, but fines, and stadium bans are only increasing. So in 2015 a Danish Pyrotechnitian began to create a form of Safe flares or Cold Smoke Flares. Finally after years of negotiating with authorities, the flares were tested by Brondby IF in their league match against Midtjylland. This new technology represents an exciting alternative for Tifos and Choreographies, as well as opening a new dialogue to amend a broken system.
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[@thegourmetgorilla9739]

You’d have to grind a lot on fifa 20 to get these

[@carloszetina9532]

No pyro no party

[@marco-s1892]

The problem with using this as choreo is that it's too modern and too perfect. With real pyro just random all over the place it's more chaos (in a good way) and that results in a better atmosphere.

[@gnawershreth]

The problem with the "real pyro" is that it'll never be allowed to be that "random" and "chaotic", it simply isn't going to happen due to the potential for fire, injury etc. so if fan groups just keep resisting everything else I don't think we'll ever see any change at all. If it boils down to an "all or nothing" thing for all the fan groups, I'm pretty damn certain that it'll be a "nothing" in the end. Although it's obviously not a one to one replacement of "real pyro" it's an advancement that may help to shop the powers that be that pyro *can* be done safer, that advancements are possible etc.and it'd show a lot of the skeptics how cool pyro can actually be in a stadium so even the people who are currently completely against any kind of pyro would get to see that it's actually fucking cool and maybe the rules should be loosened up a bit. This type of flare obviously isn't the only improvement or advancement that's possible so the more you get to use pyro (even this "safe" kind) the more research you'll see when it comes to making pyro. A bigger market for it will drive more innovation in the field as there's money to be made. And the more pyro the fans need (ie. if these types are legalized) the more mass-production will kick in and lower the price. At this point they're probably specially made in small batches which will always be more expensive.

[@DaMJfadeaway]

Good on the guy, great idea. But it looks no where near as good as the normal flare

[@MattijnPlayz]

No Pyro no party, But I do think this is a really good idea and a good alternative/enhancer of choreographies.

[@martinlundholm7339]

Cold-Pyro is like 'sex with a condom'

[@miranblazek5303]

People who are part of this scum gatherings, have no sex life, that's why they do it. Zoo much free time, unwanted by anyone, attend matches to feel good about thrmselves

[@mardinoenterlino3280]

Where can I find it?

[@henrychinaski9152]

do you have merch with COPA90? if yes, who can i buy?

[@southsideultras5406]

Thing is you need many of them to make it good

[@Zmaenlplibi]

And they're expensive

[@southsideultras5406]

Zmaenlplibi and no smoke

[@markom1469]

@@Zmaenlplibi how much? In Croatia I pay arround 8€ for a real flare (Bengals)

[@allanholm3925]

@@markom1469 they cost around 16€ and that is if you buy 10 at a time (maybe possible to get more discount if you buy in the 100s). For a single one it's 20€. So it's almost 2.5 times the price of the normal flares.

[@markom1469]

@@allanholm3925 I anyway wouldn't buy that shit even if they cost 1€ it looks like candles Lol but thank you for the information

[@jjathers214]

I went to a brondby right in the big stand the atmosphere was absolutely amazing

[@lifeasthato883]

This man is a genius

[@MrSinEon]

I can not see the conection between football and wanting to give everyone smoke poisoning, and the fire hassard combined with it. Yes this is a huge improvement but I still dont see the connection

[@dex1lsp]

I really like the look of that!! So cool.

[@Crossfirepyro2]

😎🔥 awesome liked and subscribed🔥😎

[@Lucas-sk9dp]

Why did he say that you could never do the 1964 with real flares? Djurgården did 1312 with real flares

[@phillipl4268]

Lucas but it looked shit.

[@platzz_]

It’s a lot simpelt with real flares. This can be written in any styler rather than just cubic letters. Also, the colors were able to match our club.

[@markom1469]

Fuck that i still use the real deal but now can plastic club's and "plastic Ultras" be real badass 😅

[@jironmeister]

Hey, nice cap 🇨🇷. I came to see the fulares because also in Costa Rica teams are fined for using flares, I. E. Saprissa using normal flares in Apertura 2022 semifinals.

[@casperstabell2636]

I was at that game

[@markom1469]

Wow here I made a cake for you 🥯

[@konradw360]

Just give the fans some orange LED lights next time.

[@zainullah3325]

no pyro no party

[@juicyjason7855]

A league clubs use something similar to that

[@alifrablokken6941]

Lol i saw that game in the stadium

[@maltealbertstofte1601]

Fuck jeg hader når danskere taler engelsk

[@Salicath1]

tag en tudekiks

[@skillz5928]

Heia Brann

[@Cairo98_]

Good alternative. SFA would never allow this for Rangers, Celtic. 😑

[@Chris-st9mm]

We need this in the @mls

[@k2abeats]

They think it's just about fire 😅

[@c.9220]

absolute boss the best host on this CHANNEL keep up the great content. u need to go to portugal and check out benfica porto sporting braga. !!

[@Dan1877]

I would love it if they could introduce these in the UK as a legal alternative

[@user-zy9yg2eu5t]

They dont want people to come and make atmosphere. They want to pack the stands with Tourists and sell shirts

[@masonclark9110]

@@user-zy9yg2eu5t never heard more facts in my life

[@jessicake8821]

Normal hand flare is better than this colour flame

[@richardvillota5810]

@frenteradicalverdiblanco

[@barnabyhands7723]

People kinda missing the point here. This will allow legislation to pass legalising pyro, so traditional flares will likely see reduced punishments (or even potentially legalisation) as a result of this...

[@biketimist6943]

Finally someone got the point! + if theres a market, innovation will happen. Brighter and better flares might be made.

[@isthisgoodquestionmark]

Why would they see diminished punishments? If there's a harmless alternative, they should get a higher punishment.

[@horson]

This has nothing to do with actual pyro😕🔥

[@Pzki1907]

Its a step to right way. Original pyro is not safe

[@radubraduu]

acab 1312

[@clintonire4579]

It's still fire

[@Carl-zk4hl]

2:53 For anyone wondering: That is not true.

[@madsplesnernielsen6171]

omgitscarl yes it is

[@georgebush2740]

way ahead of the retarded copenhagen fan scene. way ahead.

[@Kbh13132]

George Bush Copenhagen is voted top 10 ultras every year. Brondby is fuck all

[@benjadamon]

Hovedstaden#1 that’s not something they’re “voted”. They merely have good friends at the Ultras World channel which means they get in the top 10. There is absolutely no fucking chance fck has one of the 10 best fan scenes in the world.

[@adversitix6602]

You just don’t get the smoke effect so it just won’t work the same

[@guld1999]

Well you could just use smoke bombs with them lol

[@adversitix6602]

Fuck You or just use the originals🤘🏻

[@guld1999]

@@adversitix6602 if your club is in financial problems and can't afford to pay those huge fucking fines i think it's a good idea to have legal pyro. Of course it won't replace the real deal but it's a good alternative

[@martensoderman465]

this pyro is really bad, it looks like they are holding up lightbulbs

[@acedepth]

2:53 Hhahahahahah good joke wait she meant it? AHAHAHAHAHA WE ALL KNOW ITS FC COPENHAGEN THAT ARE THE DANISH CHAMPIONS

[@madsplesnernielsen6171]

Zlabster are you some kind of stupid?

[@madsplesnernielsen6171]

Intet galt med det engelsk jeg skrev haha? fcc har aldrig været de største og det bliver i aldrig

[@acedepth]

@@madsplesnernielsen6171 Hvem syntes du er de største i Danmark?

[@markusvidal8858]

FC VINDER BUNDBY TABER

[@markusvidal8858]

Brøndby hvad ? De største???? TABERE

[@allanholm3925]

"pyro is still considered illegal" that is very weird phrasing. it's not considered illegal, it IS illegal edit: typing errors

[@bofi_4863]

💛💙

[@AnimationCraftFR]

Bofi_ USG !

[@guld1999]

Forza Brøndby Fuck fck passion over plastic

[@LovveLRS]

Én gang Brøndby, altid Brøndby!

[@tarajii_dawla]

Looks like fucking candles. No Pyro no Party !

[@dafcnz]

It's not the same dude. Come on. Out of all the mainstream football media outlets, you guys should be the ones to understand this. We don't let clubs, front office, governments or cops dictate how we support our club. Pyro is not so dangerous.

[@Pzki1907]

If it touches your eye you gonna get blind

[@CENTRALCHAOS21]

well banning flares / smoke bomb is a really bad idea because its the only way to make alot alot of money out of it

[@lukasunjic750]

Wanna see tifos? Balkan is the place..

[@markom1469]

BBB 86 AND TORCIDA SPLIT 💪🏼🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷

[@kobolll7188]

Luka Šunjić København has probably the best tifos in the world

[@lukasunjic750]

@@kobolll7188 in your world maybe...

[@kobolll7188]

Luka Šunjić Just look at the ”smokenhagen” and the 2014 tifo against brøndby, balkan has better atmosphere but københavn has the best tifos in the world

[@TheMMoMads]

💛💙💛💙💛💙💛💙💛💙

[@Kbh13132]

Modern ultras with their chinese lightbulbs

[@79ped]

Looks like shit, and doesn't even give the same atmosphere .. It's like people doing a painting on a computer; yes, you're getting an image, but it's not really that good. + It's only allowed on Brøndby Stadion ..

[@franciscloutier5387]

yeah its not bright enough - and it doesnt give out any smoke

[@Gnolde]

@@franciscloutier5387 you realise that the smoke is part of the problem with flares, right? that smoke is a real threat to your health...

[@LegendNinja41]

@@Gnolde people (especially the simpletons) have a hard time getting their head around that.

[@allanholm3925]

they arent really "allowed" per say, you need to fill out permits and get several people/organisations to approve of it beforehand

[@sylvester5804]

Bundby*

[@Leicesterhooligansdhsjjsjssjjs]

No real pyro no party

[@siiuuuuuu9222]

Looks terrible. And to be honest, pyro is more 'beautiful' when its illegal, because it has a higher risk. And if it would be legal everyone would do it

[@allanholm3925]

agreed, but to that point I don't think these are targeted at the same market as the normal flares. this seems like a product for your "normal" supporters that arent willing to smuggle in pyro, but would be down to use these for a tifo

[@gnawershreth]

You're actively hurting the club you're claiming to support though because they get massive fines. How exactly is that supporting a club? If it's all about it being cool to be a "criminal" and nothing else, people need to grow the fuck up.

[@stefanrosquist]

it looks like LED's at Bieber koncert .. pyro needs smoke

[@markom1469]

Lol I thought the same thing 🤣

[@s1312fckcps]

No REAL Pyro No Party!

[@jonatannpeigne5855]

Love Tifontaine hate Brøndby

[@kasraestedadi7221]

FCK for life

[@Fck9340]

Leading Club in Denmark Brøndby 😂😂😂😂 Get real only Thing Brøndby leads in Are running away and being cry-Babys 😂😂😂😂

[@SorryBadName]

Så der FCKs hårde drenge der kaster ting og sager efter helt almindelige folk der ikke har noget med hooligans at gøre.

[@ceequee]

Modern ultras 🤮

[@smittenthekitteninmittens2679]

to me an intimidating atmosphere has absolutely nothing to do with tifo's and pyro...but i'm a Liverpool fan and our atmosphere is created by well..the sound of the crowd!!...we don't need plastic flags and pumped in sound to create an atmosphere like City do....

[@salemm8837]

SmittenTheKitteninMittens obsessed with city i see? Couple of points based on what you said though; you don't need plastic flags yet the kop is full of flags before every game, and the anfield atmosphere itself is such a myth, you sing ynwa once before the game and maybe after depending on if you're winning, your support is no where near as good as the media like to make out.

[@ayoubmerabet8785]

SmittenTheKitteninMittens I totally agree with you but have you seen the amazing atmosphere that can be created by adding a pyro choreography to the already impressive crowd chants

[@salemm8837]

SmittenTheKitteninMittens obsessed with city i see? Couple of points based on what you said though; you don't need plastic flags yet the kop is full of flags before every game, and the anfield atmosphere itself is such a myth, you sing ynwa once before the game and maybe after depending on if you're winning, your support is no where near as good as the media like to make out.

[@mohamedkhaznadji686]

When it comes to the other English stands yeah I'd say Liverpool's athmosphere is one of the best but you have to admit that you always get dominated in the stands whenever a club with an ultras group Comes to visit, and here referring to Saint Etienne, Paris SG and Dortmund

[@smittenthekitteninmittens2679]

@@salemm8837 not at all obsessed by city and i said PLASTIC flags...ain't no plastic flags being waved in the kop

[@tapio3376]

No. Just no

[@benjadamon]

💛💙

[@casjack15]

No pyro no party