Steam is forcing developers to be honest

[@LegendaryDrops]

Corepunk is available now! Download this brand-new MMORPG and start your adventure today: cw9m.short.gy/LegendaryDrops

[@Nidud]

Will it be available on Steam?

[@Drejzer]

Have you looked at "Stop Killing Games" EU Citizen Initiative? It sparked some... Let's say controversy. Recently it passed one of the requirements to be potentially officially processed (7 member states passed the support thresholds).

[@tdr7481]

@@Nidud probably after 1.0 releases in late 2025, hopefully

[@MarkTheCat]

anybody played it? is it at least decent?

[@mrNorth421]

U must be retarded

[@danielleutenegger2801]

Steam wants to offer more transparency, meanwhile Ubisoft wants Steam to hide player count numbers...

[@reboundrides8132]

How else are they supposed to lie to shareholders about well their games are doing?? 😅

[@rytlocknroll]

Nobody cares what Ubisoft says.

[@marcinnawrocki1437]

Ubisoft can go and touch grass.

[@darkheartplays007]

@@marcinnawrocki1437that’s a threat to their lives

[@nimbusws2566]

@@marcinnawrocki1437 “what the hell is this… strange green thing? It doesn’t look like money…”

[@Homeless_Mon]

Publishers: "Do you think yourself above the law" VALVE: "I AM THE LAW"

[@josepedrofariasguimaraes7139]

Publishers: you have no power here gaben Gaben: gaben the white remove his hood

[@Homiloko2]

Also publishers: "So.. to play our game that you already paid for, you have to agree to this scummy TOS.." and then they get mad when Steam forces a TOS on them 🤣

[@canadademon]

I really appreciate having Valve stand up for us players. Gabe is the only one I trust out of all publishers/devs. I don't even know what's going to happen when he's not around anymore.

[@DamnSpiders666]

Godben

[@JZStudiosonline]

Remember all those times the actual law forced Valve to do basic consumer rights things?

[@RoyalPhoenix2015]

The idea of what PC gaming would be without Steam is horrifying.

[@MajorRocker74]

It'd be like the good old days when you actually owned the game you purchased. No relying on an internet connection because you had a physical copy. No threat of the game going missing from your library. No forced updates you don't want.

[@Varichan]

@@MajorRocker74 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Buddy, i got a bridge to sell you

[@brilobox2]

@@MajorRocker74 L take, as thats exactly what console gaming is and worse.

[@CL4P_TP_Minion]

i think it would be like mobile gaming lmao

[@Asriel_Cypher]

Well that's why people "sailed the seas" back then... Since there's no proper distributor or whatever they're called.

[@fx-modding]

8:22 Developers are going to love this. Game companies are going to hate this.

[@OnurErtas-q1o]

EA especially

[@lovelysakurapetalsyt]

​@@OnurErtas-q1oEA will throw a fit about it and probably try to take their never finished games. Good riddance I say!

[@RoberBot]

As a developer, I like this chance But also I'm an indie dev, not a dev working in a big company. When I've added my game on steam, I was surprise on how many questions they ask and how many things I need to take into consideration, they really seem to care, and they also provide me with some really cool tools. I plan to release my multiplayer game in early access, for now it's only a demo, but I take my time with it to make sure it's good enough and there is enough gameplay added first. Worked on it for a year, It might take another year until It might be good enough to launch it in early access, and even then it won't be 60$, but 5-10$ with regional pricing, maybe even less while I keep adding stuff. Edit: I can't seem to respond to comments, the game is called Elementers, on Steam it's not much, but it's honest work :))

[@gamingbako5549]

What game would that be?

[@ni__wolf143]

Yeah wait, what's the game?

[@elaineelaine6418]

Judging by his DevLogs, his game is call Elementers

[@RoberBot]

@@elaineelaine6418 Yes, Elementers on steam. It's not much, but it's honest work :))

[@ni__wolf143]

Hmm, weird, this game called "Elementers" just randomly made its way on my wishlist.

[@Eogard]

Thanks Valve for being a private company. Thanks for having standards. Thanks for being based and the best on the market.

[@thekraken1909]

They're definitely better in many ways than their competitors. But the "best"? Not really. Have you ever had to try and get a hold of anyone from their support team? Next to impossible.

[@bobito3861]

buddy doesnt know about the arbitration clause, or licensing.

[@WilkuPainter]

@@thekraken1909 which one is the best then

[@BARDI77]

@@thekraken1909 I actually did when the helldivers controversy happened and also once I bought a steam code from eneba and the code was already expired, I personally didnt have any complain and they help me solve bot cases inmediatly

[@Martial-Mat]

Oh leave it out. Steam sells games that are literally unplayable, and then does not refund them if you don't discover it inside 2 weeks. They don't check the games that they sell actually work. They have zero quality standards.

[@almostontimehero5415]

When Steam is sold, that'll be time to abandon ship. Nothing lasts forever, but it sure would be nice if Gaben lived to be 500yrs old.

[@badsamaritan8223]

I think it's not just GabeN. I think there are a lot of people working at Valve that share his principles, and that his death won't be the loss that we think it will. Steam is the most efficient software company on Earth, and they've found that being an honest middleman in an industry overrun with greedy grifters, is a very stable, safe place to exist, and there's not much to gain by selling out or abandoning their principles.

[@TwoSouthFarm]

@@badsamaritan8223 Valve employees should be more than wise enough to understand that their ways of life and game dev get to continue precisely because of the way Valve has been operating since its inception. As an example, Icefrog, the brain behind DOTA 2, joined Valve because of that. If Valve changed for the worse, Icefrog would consider leaving Valve behind, which is horrible because Valve also knows that only Icefrog can handle DOTA 2 and, funny enough, a bunch of Valve employees play DOTA 2 a lot as well, which can mostly be because Icefrog is there to manage and balance that game in the first place. Also, changing Valve for the worse directly hurts the employees who already have a decent say in the company, due to the flat structure of the company. Many of them use Steam. Heck, many of their family members also use and enjoy Steam, and their feedback contributed to the improvements of Steam. Such a state of affair can only exist if Valve, at least, remains as good as it currently is.

[@InternetsDadGaming]

Valve is a small tight company, and people who've interacted with the staff always made them seem like they're all chill good people. Being a Private company, it doesn't necessarily get sold at all, for all we know, Gaben could already be training a trusted replacement to take charge who will takeover, continuing to be a private company.

[@agentoranj5858]

Introducing the Steam Throne, powered by the sacrifices of competing game distribution platforms.

[@macrocosm1]

The Gaben is not dead, he lives in a state of undeath, the steam throne amplifying his gamer powers.

[@Kievitzi]

Imagine being accountable for your product? wow, what an amazing concept.

[@bvowels]

Definitely don’t look into wax scene manufacturers and the 1986 NVCI which gave the manufacturers full immunity from side effects or death.

[@RidingTheKhaliYuga]

steam is based af

[@funlovin2865]

This is amazing but at same time its sad how steam has to save us instead of people not buying dlc or season passes instead of just waiting to see if its worth it and stop being stop trusting them for no reason.

[@Boc_theSeamster]

lunchly

[@belldrop7365]

Game devs for the past 20 years: False advertising is legal Steam suddenly: No.

[@CarePackage-ut3tt]

Publishers don't realize this will stop so much piracy. I may have sailed the seas a few times when it comes to season passes... but with these changes I am a lot more confident I will get what I pay for or my money back. It goes back to Steams view on piracy all together- "Piracy was never about money, it was about if the product you are making would be better pirated" It can be about money, but its more about peace of mind. If a DLC sucks, who cares because I didn't pay for it. If it sucks and I did pay for it, I'm screwed.

[@lovelysakurapetalsyt]

Absolutely. I've gotten games free to see if I'll like it, and buy if I like it; I've gotten Stardew Valley after doing so for example. Other games that advertise more than they have that I've played? Not buying those! I feel a lot better about buying games myself as well with this now holding publishers accountable

[@bootmii98]

The ones where there's a free reward track and a paid reward track?

[@xoxin_-]

I love how this is specifically targeting the bigger publishers/AA(A). Indie devs aren't the ones making season passes.

[@bluein_]

This is very specifically targeting Fighting Game publishers. They've created passes with 0 content shown, mostly because "who's the next character" is a huge marketing hype machine for them. But they used to abuse this hype to pre-order season passes for characters not even announced yet. With the pushback of Clive on Tekken 8, I think Valve is finally just tired of the constant refunds when an unliked character is announced.

[@dantespicysausage9615]

Sounds great despite Ubisoft trying to pressure Steam to stop reporting on player numbers which proves their whole studio is loathed

[@devinport.]

Lol ubisoft has no sway on steam , they can go away and no one would care

[@JuanRodriguez-ce8vs]

Someone should explain to Ubicrap that Steam isn't a Burger King, they don't get to have it their way.

[@Not_interestEd-]

Is SteamDB even run by Steam themselves? If not, they're complaining to the wrong people. 🙃

[@NevosLP]

@@Not_interestEd- It's not run by Valve, however they provide APIs that allow Sites like SteamDB to get this kind of info. Ubisoft and others now want Valve to stop giving this kind of info away, so that they can lie to their shareholders and players and make their games look better than they actually are.

[@FrankOsman]

Oh man. Thanks for reminding me that Ubisoft exists. It's been years since I purchased any game from them. The first time I've committed to not buying anything from a company.

[@Kajichuu]

Ubisoft: please hide player count tracking so was can fluff our numbers for investors. ;___; Steam: Not only will we not allow that, but now you can't have floating DLC dates that just leaves it open to the air to rake in money then killing it when it doesn't make "GTA online" levels of money. Ubisoft: Okay... you can keep the player tracking...forget we said anything and you forget that policy? Steam: Hahahahaha. no.

[@ninjason57]

Ty for the tldr

[@zamir8041]

W steam

[@NoodlleScar]

Steam: Hahahahaha... you're serious?

[@B.L.U.S]

I just imagined Gordon when the "no"

[@astronotics531]

Ubisoft never said that. And you can't lie to shareholders.

[@Thestoicstoner]

He’s morphing into gaben the white

[@caesarczech7920]

They are gonna try to frame him for racism. Defend the White Wizard.

[@CL4P_TP_Minion]

@@caesarczech7920 lmao honestly i could see that

[@slamshift6927]

@zacgsmith5644 Fuck off communist. Government hasn't done shit.

[@TheCFD_Dude]

​​@@zacksmith5644 Under what ruling or proposal was that. I just went down her list and Steam and Valve are not mentioned anywhere. Her biggest achievement she has listed so far is preventing NVidia from acquiring Arms Holdings and the 2021 vote to enforce Right to Repair policy. Absolutely nothing on the FTC causing change in the video game market because of one of her actions are listed from her.

[@caesarczech7920]

@@zacksmith5644 Like hell I as straight white male gonna believe what rainbow flag says. Why are you fluffing khan ? I hate corpos but if you are fluffing her up there has to be trick here somewhere.

[@Da_cocobong]

>Video about valve stepping in about devs failing to keep promises >Sponsored by an overly ambitious early access MMO Something isn’t adding up here

[@sephondranzer]

Agreed! I actually stopped watching just because that speaks volumes to the integrity of this video. I’d never listen to this ass.

[@Liggliluff]

This is so often the case. Creators covering high quality tech sponsoring terrible tech. Creators covering security and safety sponsoring scams and dangerous services. Creators being LGBT+/pro-LGBT+ sponsoring services shown hate towards LGBT+. It happens over and over again. Money is more powerful than morals.

[@Da_cocobong]

It is very common yes, but you’d think they’d at least be smart enough to not slap a shitty sponsor on a video that’s specifically about that subject lmfao

[@daniiii888]

@@Liggliluff tbh nobody cares about sponsorships, KZbinrs need the money, it’s not a well paying job for 99% of them

[@Siranoxz]

The whole license thing is a scam, digital content that´s paid should be owned, its that simple. The gaming industry needs to be globally regulated at the benefit of consumer protection. I have zero faith with how business is being conducted in the gaming world and games could soon disappear from your library. This is the bullshit that needs to be addressed.. So i hope the stop killing games initiative for Europe is going well, i myself have signed the petition.

[@chouts1]

White

[@Liggliluff]

For offline games, after purchase, a developer/publisher/storefront should not be allowed to make it unavailable. With updates, we should be able to add/remove them at will. Let's put that in the law. Then we can work towards always online solo games with no reason for them to be online other than license check.

[@ZachRice]

I just shake my head every time a game shuts down their servers and players who bought the game are left with nothing. Remember back in the day when a separate dedicated server application was included with your game so people could host their own servers? Games from that era still have small dedicated communities playing them. RIP modern games.

[@TheMasterblah]

In the same vein it's insane how there are games that require an internet connection when it has no legitimate need to be online

[@tyreni]

Even the demo for UT2K4 still has lobbies.

[@Jorendo]

All thanks to Call of Duty who started to remove that feature with Modern Warfare 2 so they could sell over expensive mappacks cause you could no longer play a modded version of the game, aka player made maps. Other companies soon followed to adopt the highly inferior console way of playing online and push for paid content only for their MP games.

[@rebornscannon2789]

There's a reason why Neverwinter Nights 1 still holds up today and can still be played online till this day. The enhanced edition is just future proofing it.

[@Trohl-]

​@@rebornscannon2789 Bastion of War was my shiit back in the day. Best NWN pvp server ever

[@rigo7292]

Ghost Recon Wildlands had a mission where you randomly come across a crashed UFO in the forest, and after investigating it turns out to be the Predator's ship and it turns into a whole boss battle. One of the coolest missions I've ever played in a game. And once their license for it ran out, they removed the mission from the game. Broke my heart and to this day I wish I could play it again

[@vexx12343]

What the hell? Thats crazy

[@Yesnaught]

Crossover content so often pans out that way. Alas.

[@miller42]

It's a bit like the RE2 Remake event in The Division 2, those who didn't get to unlock the cosmetics will never have them because the licence expired.

[@GreyDeathVaccine]

Damn I never got a chance to play this :/

[@THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKK]

Mods Babay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mission was mediocre at best anyway, Pred was poorly balanced and it was short as hell with no real rewards Still should stay in the game for its entire life

[@awdgaray]

We need to prepare a Golden Throne for Gabe ASAP, we can't lose this man.

[@shrottbott7200]

"In the Grim Darkness of the 41st Millennium, there are only Steam Sales."

[@TheJohn_Highway]

Gaben is anathema to every trash developer and publisher out there. His very name makes them shriek

[@233j]

Make a GLaDOS with Gaben AI

[@h5skb4ru41]

​@@233j well you found me, congratulations... Was it worth the VAC ban?

[@roberth4395]

Will it require L4D2 Bill-ing 100 000 EA/Activision/Ubisoft emoloyees a day to keep the Gabeperor running?

[@James-u1y]

Man we just had 4 million workers get denied overtime pay, I'm not surprised we have barely any laws protecting consumers in US gaming.

[@LV9_x]

Imagine some 70 year old senator who barely understands anything being convinced to try and put in a law that limits gaming's predatory behaviors, and their fellow senators just allowing it. There is too much money, and the folks who oversee our laws don't care, I can only assume what private opinions they hold about gaming/gamers. A few choice media outlets will brand it negatively, and it will be attached to some heinous bill that no one wants, and it will just never exist.

[@James-u1y]

@ Well that’s the source of it all right, I don’t mean to be “that guy”, but this is without a doubt corporate America. This country is a corporate machine, the people that have fought so hard for freedom have in turn been let down and will be wrung dry of all use and whoever can afford it will move on to the next place where better laws exist if they don’t already own housing and avenues to access it. We’re hanging on by a thread and it’s likely a thread that was let standing intentionally to divide us as much as possible so no one focuses on the issues that caused our situation in the first place. We all saw the assassination of a health insurance CEO and, instead of adjusting things to help the consumer they remove all images and webpages of executive leadership in the insurance companies and have begun creating a medical task force for said executives Incase it happens again. Completely avoiding any solution as to keep things the way they are so they can raise costs slowly overtime with no leeway or concern for the ones who pay their salaries. Alright I’m done, sorry brother I didn’t want to lay this all on you I’m just tired of it and am unsure what the next steps are if things become irreversible.

[@Eranderil]

Remember that the issue isn't usually the "developers," it's the PUBLISHERS. Developers want to make something fun. PUBLISHERS want your money. These two entities are NOT the same and shouldn't be lumped together. That aside, I remember how absolutely livid I was when I bought the season pass for ARK:SE, and started getting extremely hyped about upcoming content only to learn that they changed the rules of that first season pass to only be for the "first trilogy." I think this is a positive change to the industry.

[@kenengstrom7808]

Ark ended up being such a scam, hope it means we can reclaim on on ARK as they killed it with ASE, even closing down all the servers even after we paid for the game and multiple different seasonal passes.

[@DarknessXevil]

Valve's platform consists of two groups, the publishers and the consumers. Putting in place standards that ensure the protection of consumers by simply holding publishers accountable should be mandatory. If the publishers threaten to pull out because of this then good riddance. Those publishers are simply telling you, the consumer, "We want to be able to steal money from you without being forced to be held responsible for our actions". Why would anyone want to give that group any money?

[@zakpearce7826]

They can threaten all they like. Steam has a market monopoly and represents its customers. The capitalists can fuck off if they think they're getting their greasy hands in this one

[@hugohemra7074]

Absolute crybabies I tell you, only covering themselves as a company to hide the fact they're thieves and then start throwing tantrums when held accountable for it. All petty thievery. Consumers are very glad this is finally addressed by someone, especially Steam. Not only it'll push out a new mandated need, but it'll further boost its reputation. Bravo Gaben.

[@Lanewreck]

If you were talking about anything other than games in any industry. The capitalist ruling class of elites would call you a communist.

[@Pugkin5405]

Because not everyone has the same standards as you for what they buy

[@idontknowwhatname2632]

@@Pugkin5405 so just to make it clear your standards are that a company can announce a DLC get money for that DLC and then delay the DLC for however long they want even if its 10 years? those are masochist level standards

[@fubar5884]

I feel a great disturbance in the Force... as if thousands of Ubisofts, EAs, and Chris Roberts' suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. I believe something wonderful has happened.

[@miller42]

I doubt that Chris Roberts cares, his scam is not available on Steam.

[@francisthapotato4029]

Chris Roberts has his own store he does not give a shit

[@Silath01]

Star Citizen is not on steam, and will only be coming to steam when it’s fully released.. whenever that is

[@badsamaritan8223]

Lumping CR/CIG/Star Citizen in with Ubi&EA, is absurd. Not only are they not on steam, as other's have stated, they aren't overtly malicious like Ubi&EA. They make mistakes and have to eat crow on the regular, but they're still maintaining and improving an already good product, that costs a reasonable $45 to play, with no DLC, MTX, or other investment required.

[@schadenfreudex3350]

​@@badsamaritan8223 Sorry, dude's right. Do you honestly need a history lesson of Robert's career? "Grifter" gets thrown around a lot, but its apt here and is honestly one of the nicer things that fraud could be labeled. What, you want someone trying to write a 2 sentence funny ha-ha comment using a Star Wars line to list off 15 other "more culpable" people in your opinion? And it's as if you and the two others above you don't understand grammar. See that apostrophe after Roberts? That means plural, as in "All the Roberts-esque grifters" Good grief

[@DecimatedRanger]

My wife and I both bought Evil Dead the game to play together. A $60 USD title, that was unfortunately live service for realistically no reason. A year later, the game shuts down. Hell maybe not even a year later. We're left out $120 and they make off with our buck. Effectively stealing the service we purchased.

[@Domura]

This is why I don't bother buying any game where the majority gameplay is online. When the servers go offline you can never play that game again barring private server type things.

[@macjabeth5073]

​@@Domura I guess that means you won't be joining us in PoE2. :/

[@saintilsteven]

@@macjabeth5073we lost a soldiers 😢

[@zerosam5541]

@@macjabeth5073 poe 2 is free

[@bastiangaete2419]

In the EU, they are debating a law that forces online games. If they announce shutdown, they must launch a patch to make the game available to play single player.

[@IceSkythe-de]

for people in the EU: there is currently a petition to get laws regarding liveservice games calles "Stop Killing Games" it is already over the required threshold in some countrys

[@ironduck6613]

I’m so glad he brought up destiny 2 as a example, but as a former d2 player there was a huge aspect imo that he didn’t go in on. Not only did they lock content like maps and raids, but also the loot you would get from it or them. Imagine spending months (not joking) grinding a raid once a week and you get this sweet helm. High af stats, it looks badass and matches your drip great and makes your build go harder than ever. Then imagine that you can’t use that piece suddenly. They called it “sunsetting” and used the same “hardware limitations” excuse

[@northstar6920]

Lord Gaben finnaly put his big, chunky "steamdeck" on the table

[@StarcraftDr]

Lmfao

[@Vin80_]

That large and in-charge Steamy Deck.

[@captain5104]

That one gif where the cat in the hat slams those legal documents on the table (except the documents are black and blurred to imply something else) is what comes to mind.

[@AllesLatte]

Feels more like he shut the door on publishers that were trying to smash their steamdecks into Our small docking stations.

[@IAmTheNumber69]

That fat pink mast of a steam deck

[@notacoree]

I won't be treating valve like a god, but they are genuinely better than 99% of other platforms if not all. Being a private company has only made them that much better as they don't have to cater to shareholders over their customers and can focus on making a good platform and don't have to resort to outbidding competitors for exclusives or other things because shareholders won't let them take care of their customers.

[@BigBoiUltra3741]

Now let's hope that when Gabe eventually leaves, that won't change.

[@diegoaravena423]

Indeed they are good but they aren't angels (unless you compare them with the rest...)

[@jazzyjswift]

​@@diegoaravena423 At the end of the day, the most you can realistically ask for from a massive company is to keep a focus on the customers first, and not profits. That's Valve. So this idea that they're only good by comparison diminishes the goodness they actually have. No other modern company that absolutely dominates a flooded market does so by providing good service that is custom-focused first, that actually makes decisions that could negatively impact their profits for the sake of benefiting their customers. Valve has shown time and again that they are run with integrity as their core value. Name me a better company in the video game industry that has as many opportunities to make more money off of customers that does not by choice.

[@NoSmoke1]

Valve and Gog are the only major distributors I fully trust.

[@KolincaResNovae]

Well, GoG while not having as many features, it's just as trustworthy IMO. Plus, DRM-free.

[@pouriya8587]

Fascinating. Rarely do companies do stuff for the players. Usually pandering to mobs or getting points for the BlackRock is the goal.

[@bennygerow]

They've got FU money

[@thebreadbringer]

That's because Valve is a privately-owned company run by people who care.

[@cooltv2776]

@@thebreadbringer im skeptical about the "caring" part. but either they care, or they understand that the consumers are why they make any money in the first place and constantly take steps to be the platform with the most consumers. either way, im happy with valve here

[@_Devil]

This is the difference between a Public company and a Private company. The former has to answer to investors. The latter has to answer to themselves.

[@jacobterpstra7490]

This is actually SUCH an important discussion. More people need to raise their voices about this.

[@NaraClanGaming]

I hope they go after games that are permanently in early access but crank out dlc every 120 days like Ghosts of Tabor.

[@zerosam5541]

How can steam go after it

[@NaraClanGaming]

@ I’m not sure but I hope it’s something they implement. Maybe make it to where you can only sell something that’s early for a certain amount of time, and then after that, it either has to be a finished game or taken off of the store.

[@NaraClanGaming]

Either that or just dont allow games in beta or early access to be sold on steam. A lot of them are just scams

[@NaraClanGaming]

@ that’s the main reason I’m not immediately all for it. The people running ghost of Tabor are an Indy development company, but they are more focused on implementing things into the game Nobody is asking for instead of fixing issues that have been there since the games inception. There are issues within their game that caused you to lose inventory and progress within the game. I don’t feel like companies like them deserve be on Steam anymore, but I’m sure there indie companies on Steam that are very good at what they do and listen to their playerbase.

[@kurisuastralum4244]

The way i see it is people will pay to essentially test and give feedback helping to grow the game until it reaches 1.0 , during this time there should not be any DLC allowed. It's only when a game is finished that thoughts of creating DLC should be a thing, why would you purchase additional content and skins when the base game isn't even finished? Just my opinion. If the devs still need more money then they should've charged more for the game outright instead of charging you piecemeal for things that should be included in the box price.

[@SPECTRA_87]

Deep Rock Galactic has a tab where you can choose what season and event pass you want to play/progress through. AND ITS ALL FREE.

[@zaglezigawa8415]

A major sign of awesome Dev's!

[@SPECTRA_87]

@@zaglezigawa8415 yeah, Ghost Ship Games is one of the best, in my opinion.

[@FadyFTJ]

ROCK AND STONE FOREVER

[@SPECTRA_87]

@@FadyFTJ THATS IT LADS! ROCK AND STONE!

[@zaglezigawa8415]

@@SPECTRA_87 WERE RICH!!!

[@ChiiBomb]

Wait he’s talking about games not meeting deadlines, that lie to consumers and who offer a false product… But then accepts a sponsor from Corepunk???? They literally lie constantly for 4 years to consumers. The game is still horrible despite 4 alpha tests (and tests before alphas), they’ve promised features only for them to not be there. Early access started on Tuesday and of course several features promised were not included and they won’t accept refunds anymore. The game is buggy like in alpha which means they never fixed common issues. It’s been developing for over 10 YEARS! They promised some alpha testers the game for free, saying “just login and we’ve already made your accounts have access”, only for that to be a complete lie. Customer Support is non existent and if you are one of the lucky few to get a reply it’s a generic response that doesn’t actually work. Incredible to use them for a sponsor in a video about video game integrity. Wtf

[@RLCguy]

Anyone with a functioning brain knows to never take sponsorships seriously. He’s gotta get paid somehow

[@ChiiBomb]

@@RLCguy that's the problem. kids watch these reviews, with an obviously NOT fully functioning brain, and are easily influenced into buying crap or a scam game. common sense would tell you that. but ofc money over anything to you ppl

[@vadim_65rus]

Anyone with a functioning brain knows well enough to maintain consistenty, integrity and dignity, it is a sign of virtue. The opposite is hypocrisy which should be forever ashamed and condemned. Having money as a sole reason to go against your believes puts your takes under a question if you truly believe and care about what you say or just catering to audience for clout (grifting)

[@ChiiBomb]

Also want to add they promised the game for FREE to ALL alpha 2 players. Only to then hide when people didn’t get their access that was promised and instead made people wait OVER A WEEK with no info and then they turned people away because “low play time” during the alpha, which had to be redone bc of a game breaking bug. They are liars!

[@RLCguy]

@@vadim_65rus I mean just ignore it. If you get scammed by a KZbin sponsorship that people have to take so that they can make some money back for their time making the video, then that’s your fault. What? Do you give credit card info when asked, too?

[@night_san03]

From the legal perspective, this animosity between promised gameplay and delivery actually falls under violation of contract and fraud, meaning you can 100% sue THE DEVELOPER for a refund, bonus points if you sue through valve's arbitration measures because you won't need to pay an assload for a good lawyer and you can just build your case off of disparities between the advertising material and your gameplay experience. I got refunded for like 12 games this way, and 3 of them got de-listed.

[@SnowyRains]

0:55 we have laws against this bs since before i was born yet when it comes to gaming they dont care unless theres heaps of people complaining then they forced to refund people by consumer protection

[@TheCentipede_21]

In Europe there is a plan on making game studios to tell us through trailers or game descriptions, on how many years the game is gonna receive support so the player can decide if that amount of money he is gonna spend is worth it

[@Celis.C]

It's very disingenuous of 'gaming' corporations to talk about 'game sales' when in essence we're all _renting_ a license.

[@B.L.U.S]

At least with the new family sharing on steam it started resembling how physical copies work

[@iam16bits]

Everyone should fear an all-digital future.

[@zerosam5541]

Only on console since on pc other store and os exist

[@nonnayobuissness5682]

I dont think being digital is the problem, its that companies can make the files on your computer essentially useless whenever they want

[@danthebee27]

Yeah there are places like GOG that are essentially physical games in the sense you own them and in a lot of cases are better than newer physical games as a ton of them are glorified activation code

[@danthebee27]

Yeah there are places like GOG that are essentially physical games in the sense you own them and in a lot of cases are better than newer physical games as a ton of them are glorified activation code

[@Asriel_Cypher]

I don't think being Digital is the issue. We just need a Digital License as an Installer, like GOG. If Steam offers that your account, have the installer + key tied to your account, to enable users to download the Installer/Launcher from there with your License attached as a Key, then we wouldn't have this issue. I think Steam should go there. If it is possible to do so like GOG does, I think it is better. If someone has a better term or name, please let me know. I don't know the English term enough for this specific situation. English is my 3rd language.

[@TheDudeWithNoName]

13:11 funny how Valve literally did this with Counterstrike Global Offensive getting replaced by Counterstrike 2 and then Counterstrike 2 having the exact same issues of not having all the content that was available with Global Offensive and being a lot more buggy and full of cheaters.

[@Spacemarine658]

honestly as an indie dev this is a huge positive this will force the AAA studios to actually treat customers right like we already do

[@jabbawookeez01]

with the ubisoft AC shadows thing.. im 100% sure maybe a month or 2 ago or something, steam/gabe told all the developers all this info FIRST, and NOW he's telling us. so they can have a bit of time to fall in line

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

Couple small corrections about the Destiny Content Vault (only because I've been following it since the Beyond Light showcase, which I recommend doing a react on because the way Luke Smith and Mark Noseworthy sold it to players was incredibly scummy)... Bungie didn't say Forsaken would be vaulted with the original vaulting on Beyond Light's release. In fact, after that point, players were convinced "Forsaken wouldn't be taken away." And it was. In part. The Last Wish raid, and the first Forsaken mission, are still available...however, the CAMPAIGN, the thing that contextualizes the Dreaming City and Last Wish raid entirely...that's gone. They only left in Last Wish because raids are a big deal, and the first Forsaken mission where Cayde dies was returned because Final Shape brings Cayde back (sorta) and newer players had no idea who Cayde was. Of course, they put Uldren's entire arc of being hunted down after killing Cayde, returning as Crow with shady intentions, potentially killing Zavala, regaining his memory via Savathuun...all THAT seasonal content is gone. My favorite destination, Titan, which was in D2 Vanilla, was removed, sold BACK to players for Season of the Deep, and is gone AGAIN. Yes, Bungie said they wouldn't vault content anymore, but much of their game is still ethereal and FOMO and the community continues to justify it and it's disgusting.

[@fuckyoutubrforchangingthis]

Which is why I bought forsaken on release and now I dont play destiny 2 I was lied to Scammed out of a dlc (They never said it would go away) I remember this , I submitted like 5 refund requests But BECAUSE DLC, and I obvi played 30hrs. That I can't refund now And yet bungee was just allowed to steal the dlc away and vault it away Thus literally carpet pulling my dlc 😅 Fuck that game , fuck that company Won't give them ANY money, even for a halo future release😂 fuck them. And fuck their mAcrotransactions (nothing micro about 30$ skins)

[@zackf1st]

By sheer coincidence I had finally decided to give destiny a try, but it was week after they had done that huge vault, which I wasn't aware of. I played through the tutorial and loved the witty little humor and the amazing feel of the game. After I finished the tutorial sequence I was pumped to continue with whatever the story had to offer, only to be left feeling very directionless and abandoned. I went searching online on how to play the campaigns with all these vids showing to talk to this npc that has them, to only find nothing. It took about 2 hours of research to finally find out it was all gone, and the only thing offered to me was to do pointless limited stuff around the worlds, or spend lots of money on dlcs that I wouldn't have understood at all. I have never before or since felt such massive disappointment in a game.

[@qu1253]

The Destiny community deserves to get ripped off when they keep throwing money at Bungie despite getting burned constantly.

[@fuckyoutubrforchangingthis]

@qu1253 naa thats bullshit lmao

[@digitalsublime]

I'm 46, and just can't get why someone would pre-order, or buy a season pass before the season is over. I say the most logical thing is wait for games and DLC to come in a GOTY package, wait for a sale when all the bugs and performance has been worked on. The only exception to this is when you want to reward a particular studio like Larian, or Warhorse etc... The problem is gaming includes older and smarter younger, and children and dumb ones, so there is plenty of candy taking opportunity for studios that don't care or value good will capital. At the same time there is a wide-open opportunity for the ones that do, but they must be aware, that, you can lose suddenly most of the good will by getting greedy and not respecting your fan base CDPR cough...

[@burtbiggum499]

I have a friend who is almost 30 and he is pre ordering assassins creed and think it looks good

[@Asriel_Cypher]

​@@burtbiggum499 A friend of mine who's 5 years older than me at 33, thinks that too... They're planning on getting Veilguard when I told him not to.

[@SlaughtingIdiots]

The problem is, children are often also dumb and even without children the majority is borderline rtarded, if you can make an easy buck catering to 70% of people i henceforth call shteaters, then they make the best profit, thats the whole deal

[@digitalsublime]

@@burtbiggum499 oh millennials! trying to be even more cringe than boomers

[@digitalsublime]

@@lordtristanbr Well I can see that in games where you have to stay up with the meta and have opportunity to get skill with everyone else in order to enjoy it. One genre that you need to go in early is fighting games, and if you get joy and can deal with the publisher, I see that you are getting the value in enjoyment. But these are very niche cases.

[@bronzieblue63]

The format continues Gaben: Does not actively screw over the consumer, or simply does nothing Competition: Continues to shoot themselves in the foot Steam: Profit

[@theomnidegenerate5236]

Video starts at 6:00

[@Fresh_Playa]

Gabe is our gaming Messiah

[@Airbigbawls]

I fear the day when he steps down from steam, or even worse, passes away

[@Fresh_Playa]

@@Airbigbawls True, but I hope Valve stays purehearted anyway

[@PureColumbianCocainum1949]

I've heard Gabens son will take over after him.

[@kielpogi8062]

He is essentially the founder of modern pc gaming

[@Fotononf]

@@Airbigbawls He plans to be immortal

[@kc9937]

Last time I was this early RPG meant role playing game and not rarely played game.

[@practic4l349]

12:50 Graphical improvements at the cost of downgrading the entire gameplay. Why are we even playing games to begin with?

[@chrisxd146]

I find it beyond pathetic that companies - when left to their own devices - have consistently fail to self-regulate themselves and be content with sizable profit margins. It's an embarrassment to the entire industry that Valve has to treat a few suits like children.

[@KleptoVA]

That’s capitalism baby

[@airlag]

This is another good move from Valve that makes me trust Valve. They take their responsibility serious that comes with their power 😊 A suggestion about software licenses: If we only purchase a license, it should come with a validity date. And WE don't pay, we give them a license to use our money up to that date. If the software is removed or servers are shut down prior to that date, we get our money back. If the date is reached, they own the money.

[@LuckyWicBöy]

Gaben owns so many yatchts , makes sense that he tired of watching all of these sinking ships 😅

[@opuntiaechios9683]

Crazy that companies having minimal accountability seems so refreshing. I feel like we've gotten too accustomed to consumers and corporations having very one sided relationships and contracts.

[@itsbw8858]

And rightly so!

[@zacksmith5644]

Out was Lina khan a woman who helped . Valve didn't

[@JZStudiosonline]

0:30 "We don't know what our purchases are going to look like because we don't own those" is a great reminder for the fact that since Steam's inceptions you haven't owned any of your purchases made through Steam. Acting like any other launcher/service that does the does the same thing is worse is weird. I think the most likely reason for requiring studios to have DLC dates is to prevent people from claiming refunds for things that aren't being delivered.

[@James-u1y]

I don't think its that's weird, likely jumbled the user interface/interaction and general user or player experience being inconvenient or awkwardly designed causing friction in launcher, no player reviews etc. I could be wrong though if he didn't mean it that way. GOG is the best launcher for ownership especially with their game preservation program.

[@Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section]

Super! Next, please abolish ‘Extended Access’ and extend the refund timeframe for games without a demo.

[@sol5916]

Another dream would be forcing any games sold on steam to only use the steam launcher. I don’t ever purchase Rockstar, Blizzard, or Ubisoft games specifically for this reason

[@JGreed7]

I sleep better at night knowing Gabe is out there protecting us from these companies.

[@zacksmith5644]

😂😂😂 Who told you that ? Lina khan from FTC forced Valve to be honest . It was Lina khan who forced game platforms to officially declare if they are selling Game ownership or just a license so people would be more aware of what they sign up for .

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@zacksmith5644 Steam already had something like that in the TOS they just rephrased to use the phrasing defined by FTC when that regulation was approved

[@JGreed7]

@@zacksmith5644 My comment was obviously an exaggeration of reality meant as a joke (why do i even have to explain it is beyond me). Steam is probably doing this to protect his own reputation against scummy publishers more than anything, but the fact that their interest alligns with the ones of the customers its a win win situation. Also, i have no idea who that is and how is related to the topic but maybe you can share a source for these claims. And btw you might want to rethink your youtube bio, everything in it is contradictory and makes you look very confused about reality...

[@qu1253]

@@marcogenovesi8570 It's a bot. Don't bother replying to it.

[@katalyxt_]

Steam will never stop winning

[@vallar57]

At least until Gaben retires.

[@thechuckjosechannel.2702]

If Gaben Retires, then Steam is Toast.

[@brilobox2]

@@vallar57 you kidding? He’ll invent the technology to upload his consciouness before he lets ANYONE he doesn’t trust 110% take over the company.

[@midnightblue3285]

@@brilobox2 Thats why he created the portal aparture co

[@Asriel_Cypher]

@@brilobox2 He'd be an Adeptus Mechanicus and upload his mind before he hands over any company.

[@firstnamelastname3117]

I own a small business, and I know one thing for a fact. The people who come to your business accept what they get. Essentially, what I'm saying is, you all have got what you've accepted. You've accepted digital, or else they wouldn't continue to sell them. You accept DLC that never came, because you paid for it. You accept buying content and then it getting taken away from you, because you bought it. I get it, they're being shady, but you all need to take responsibility too. They sell what sells. Stop accepting unacceptable practices, and those practices will go away.

[@Lovinia1]

That’s a far cry from last years “people have to learn to get comfortable not owning things they pay for” attitude. A step in the right direction

[@bugsmith9751]

irony being the company that made far cry being the ones who said that

[@atra008]

Gabe has been giving us some really good early holiday gifts. Edit: Thought afterward, if we don't own games and are buying a license, then why do we have to pay for DLC? Shouldn't that be included in our license?

[@dizzyheads]

Bros been making me pray he lives a long life

[@gadereel2]

0:32 that hits hard when I did purchase some expensive package to support Gundam Evolution just for them to close that game as fast they could, never again.

[@apersonontheinternet8006]

Gloria Victus got me.

[@zacksmith5644]

Who told you that ? Lina khan from FTC forced Valve to be honest . It was Lina khan who forced game platforms to officially declare if they are selling Game ownership or just a license so people would be more aware of what they sign up for .

[@friznutzs]

Developers will just pull a Battlestate Games and say "it's not DLC it's a unique feature"

[@BigBoiUltra3741]

And if Steam is smart, then they'll put in more requirements to what is a dlc.

[@theanimer1]

Companies can call it whatever they want. If its content that is outside the base game. Its dlc.

[@randomxgen6167]

It's sad that we consider Valve implementing bare minimum requirements like "give people what they paid for" a paradigm shift in this industry.

[@themghicks]

Now if we could only get Valve to automatically delist early access games with no updates in 12+ months or some time frame or some kind of warning without needing to research each early access title ourselves.

[@ChildNightmare]

In a time when consumer protection and our trust in developers have been declining this is nice

[@TheManoDestra]

Cat hawking a hairball at 18:43. Also, Valve W

[@luxeayt6694]

Hawk tuah

[@PhotriusPyrelus]

0:22 Nor shall I. Ook Bungle in the dooker.

[@vrnehot]

About early access: there is a problem, for example with dwarf fortress, the game has been in development for more than a decade, and even more time is needed to close the entire roadmap, but now it is the greatest game of all time, and rules that limit access to such games are not needed, yes, I will die before the game is 100% complete and thank God there are no rules prohibiting the release of the game before it is 100% ready

[@theanimer1]

I'm sorry but if it takes that long. They shouldn't charge money. That's a hobby at that point. Not a product

[@Barten0071]

@@theanimer1 >you can't make mony on your hobby

[@GeometryEX-hp9zs]

I think the charging for early access to an unfinished game depends on whether the game is playable, that is, whether the gameplay can work properly, whether the interaction can work properly, and whether the player can normally complete the task and proceed to the next step. If these are achieved, then the early access game should charge some fees. If none of these are achieved, and the game assets are just piled together, I suggest that the game be free. This is still closely related to completeness. Not being finished does not mean that it cannot be played. But if the game is at a stage where it cannot be played. Don't charge others.

[@KevinoftheCosmos]

i still need to buy DF

[@reeeeedmil]

@@theanimer1 We waited for 20 years to buy the game and not have to download it for free from Tarn's site, let it be

[@TheWhoamaters]

Man I wish these rules had been in play when Fallout 4 was still newsworthy. Remember how they promised 3 seasons of dlc, then cut it down to 2 and lowered the season pass price, then hiked the price again with the promise of the third season returning, which never came, and the price stayed high? Yeah, still miffed about that

[@Customs4488]

He starts talking about what's in the title of the video around 5:00 .

[@SimonPeter1]

It is interesting to see a top 1 size industry with such bad legal regulation about protecting customers. However, maybe that is the reason why it becomes a top 1 size industry.

[@danisverydead]

Yup. Billionaires don’t make billions being honest.

[@hristo.bogdanov]

I will NEVER touch another game from Bungo... And I'm not talking for buying another game - I will not touch any game from them.

[@runfonkey]

Steam is not here for the customers they are here for Steam. If a developer sells something on their platform but fails to deliver the customer is going to hold Steam responsible. They don’t want that headache. Under the old agreement they had no recourse but were being blamed because they were the point of sale. But in this case what’s good for Steam is also good for use. It’s capitalism at its best.

[@theanimer1]

This is true. But it works out for customers too. Since what makes steam happy, often is what makes customers happy. So the two coincide often.

[@GeometryEX-hp9zs]

Steam is essentially a game distributor. It's just that these games exist in digital form. The platform itself is only responsible for distribution and sales. But in this process, the platform bears more responsibilities. When there is a problem with the product, it is actually difficult for customers to find the developer to communicate with them, and they can only communicate with the distributor. It's like when you buy a car somewhere, when the car has a problem, you can only go to the dealer to communicate for repairs or solutions. In this process, the dealer needs to communicate with the developer as an intermediary. I have to say that steam did what they should do. I still don't like platforms like origin or uplay, the player support is too poor. And it is difficult to trace refunds.

[@gabevillarreal5118]

i remember in about 2012 my co-worker was trying to convince me that buying digital was better way to go than getting the physical copy . i kept bringing up this exact scenario. and then it happened. i bought a 2pack game on psn store, although the games were still available individually that particular 2 pack purchase wasn't on the psn store anymore.... when i tried to re-download 1 of the games wasn't there on my dl list...called customer service and it didn't matter that i had the emailed receipt they told me "my license had expired" and "sry we don't offer that product" even though i still had access to the 2nd game in the 2pack purchase guy kept telling me it was somehow my fault... i eventually used the chat customer service ....sent them a screenshot of the product that isn't listed anymore AND the receipt info they helped a little...but one thing it proved was keeping the receipts doesn't matter. YOU don't own the game , just a temp license to play it even if its bought at full price

[@Liggliluff]

I don't play online games and only buy games running offline. These will work forever as long as I got a machine to run it. I don't want to fund bad practices. Also because I don't enjoy online gaming.

[@Drejzer]

I just checked after 0:30... Stop Killing Games got past the 7 Nation Threshold! Now there's "only" getting 610 thousand more people...

[@chipproductions1510]

*A SEVEN NATION ARMY* has been assembled

[@MoonBunnyLovers]

Everyone who thinks Valve is perfect. Remember we didn't get a refund policy until they got sued. Remember how stagnated steam had become before EGS came out swinging. I don't care how much you despise EGS. It made Steam better. And i believe it is still pushing Steam to be better.

[@Lieelith]

sorry im not the type that up about the news, can you elaborate?

[@ct2651]

​@@Lieelithi can at least say 2 thing, valve saw the incoming law about refunds and decided mere months before it become complete law to instantiate automatic refund... one could easily the timing is not a coincidence hence valve pressured into doing so. The next thing is the 25% cut on over 10 million revenu or 20% on over 50 million revenu arriving 3 months before the epic store and its 12% cut.

[@lemax6865]

@@Lieelith EGS, the Epic Games Store, aka the Epic Fail Store. A cesspool of unethical business practices that makes Valve look saintly by comparison. It's another digital games distribution platform, but inferior to Steam in pretty much every way (at least it was at first, no idea what it looks like now), that gained traction by paying devs for exclusivity contracts. That said, bad competition is still competition; Steam had to adapt to no longer having a de-facto monopoly, which made it better.

[@KebradesBois]

11:30 that's the exact moment I uninstalled Destiny to never touch it again...

[@Braiam]

0:58 There are laws that protect players from these kinds of things. The problem is that consumers don't assert such rights, because shops have their entire libraries hostage, because the US culture that if something unfair isn't specifically codified as prohibited, you have to prove in court that other related laws apply.

[@vynniev9611]

This is shockingly strict, and I am here for it. I'm interested in hearing what game devs of these big companies think of this, since production demands are already so ridiculous

[@Pyromythical]

GTA online removed existing cars, some there from launch - to rotate them in and out to create false scarcity and FOMO When Bungie vaulted content, that's when I quit, and when I saw all the new content I haven't played on sale I remembered quickly that I can't play the entire backlog of content anymore, and passed on it. I don't play Avatar, but that situation is also unacceptable.

[@Gracericon]

16:24 cat :D

[@mrvad3r198]

Prolly some govt legal issues have come up. Valve doesn't give a fck till someone forces them. Don't forget the csgo skins and gambling shit that happened before

[@benedekgabor.]

It was Lina Kahn from the FTC. Probably she’ll be fired after January next year.

[@AllLip]

Absolutely love this man . Them erasing content is when i decided to never play again. And battle born making it to where you couldn't play the single player campaign made me really stop wanting to collect video games as much as i was . Also got burned buying the tell tale game of thrones game after they lost the license and you could only play the first episode. Glad youre speaking up about this youre right we need to speak up now

[@MustacheMerlin]

This IS the ten years down the road. Everyone saw this coming and was already extremely pissed off about it the very moment Bethesda thought it was a good idea to sell horse armor in a micro-transaction. Or when people bought Sim City and could not play it on release because the always online _DRM_ servers crashed under the load from millions of people trying to play their offline, singleplayer $60 videogame. Which came on a physical disk, btw. Consumers and developers alike have been dragged down this road by investors publishers and executives, the lot of us kicking and screaming the whole way to no effect.

[@captain72125]

Stalker 2 is not worth the money, atleast not now. With the straight lie of A life, horribly unstable mid to end game with main quests some not finishable for some player. And everyone's excuse is "Oh but their country is at war" They moved development to Prague going on 2 years now, with multiple delays is fine. They should have delayed more. And DEFINITELY not lifting the review until 2 hours before release was so telling. All the bullshit of "modders will fix it" well then I should pay them for making the product playable instead of the company making a template for a game rather than a full experience

[@Lil.Yahmeaner]

100% agree, I never understood the war argument, sucks that happen but it does not justify lying and taking people’s money for a broken product

[@nashbullet3213]

What did people expect from Ukraine? If you know you know

[@vitalol7747]

idk where you are coming from with this. Have 20 hrs in the game rn, it's quite enjoyable. Of course, it's not perfect. There are bugs, but every second aaa release nowadays is a shit show. I've got exactly what i expected and paid for, if you didn't- request a refund on steam.

[@MsSepik]

This is going to either change a lot or steam gonna have a lot of work with refunds,this is gonna be interesting.

[@zacksmith5644]

Who told you that ? Lina khan from FTC forced Valve to be honest . It was Lina khan who forced game platforms to officially declare if they are selling Game ownership or just a license so people would be more aware of what they sign up for .

[@potato3457]

​@@zacksmith5644who asked

[@stargazzer9166]

Really? A sponsor on a false advertisement video. Hope it was worth the money

[@inoob26]

Worth noting that in Destiny 2 The Last Wish raid and one of the destinations (Dreaming City) is still in the game but every playable content for the Forsaken expansion outside that was indeed removed from the game.

[@bennygerow]

The Dreaming City.

[@BenA514]

I'd like to see steam employ similar regulation with battlepass models. When Halo Infinite release, there was a lot of praise going around about their model for handling battle passes, allowing you to go back purchase and progress the battlepasses from previous seasons. I'd like more games to be like that. Companies making paid content only available for a limited time is another predatory tactic I'd like to see regulated, if not by steam then by lawmakers

[@TheArthurLapin]

A bit off topic but one of the biggest surprises to me is that, through Steam, in the last few years I have stumbled into a gaming ecosystem setup that makes me question the value of ever buying a Playstation or Xbox again unless something radically changes with next gen versions of those consoles. My PC acts as my hub but can stream to my Steam Link hooked up to my living room tv, or I can take my games on the road with my Steam Deck. My gaming can be as PC-flexible or console-simple as I please at any given time thanks to the option of big picture mode. I can buy digital games from more stores than just on Steam and then layer on top community features like Guides and Workshop etc and Valve's (mostly) consumer friendly policies. It's not perfect, I'm not playing games in 4K anywhere, sometimes things can feel a little sloppy here and there and getting to this point did come with some headaches. It's not for everyone but now that I'm at this point, PS and XB need to do something really impressive to get me to add them to my setup again in the future. At least Nintendo have exclusives and a unique philosophy to hardware design to justify glancing in their direction.

[@fuckyoutubrforchangingthis]

My 3 monitors and 7900xtx and 7800x3d and my 4070/i7 laptop turned my ps5 into a literal bong charger. I ONLY USE MY PS5 TO CHARGE MY BONG 😂 I use my pc for my phone 😂 (thunderbolt ports ftw)

[@fuckyoutubrforchangingthis]

I got spiderman 2 and I don't even play it, looks like shit and I can't stream spiderman next to it with spidey music on in the background at 100fps+

[@fuckyoutubrforchangingthis]

Ps5 and xboxs suck I have an Xbox one too but ew My switch is a literal dust collector My 3ds XL gets more use 😅

[@GeometryEX-hp9zs]

I got a game console very late, and I have to say that game consoles are not essential. In fact, in the early days, the reason why players bought game consoles just to play games was because game publishers limited the distribution platform to game consoles. For example, Nintendo games, switch, 3ds, and nds games, you'd better buy a game console anyway. Later, because of the problem of game exclusivity, such as Halo was originally released exclusively on XBOX, and Horizon Zero Dawn was originally released on the PlayStation platform. This forced players to buy game consoles. When games are no longer exclusive, PC is still the best choice. The PC platform can do many things, and playing games is just one of them. Most people use PCs for work. Games are secondary entertainment.

[@zerosam5541]

8:20 developers are not going to hate it they get paid to make the game the rest of it is the company fault

[@rileyf1178]

Companies, most likely big ones, are going to hate this and thats exactly who this new rule is targeting and it does well at targeting them

[@Butch2Therapie]

im not sure about the fact that studios are gonna *have* to respect specific deadlines for DLCs, mostly because editors are not gonna stop selling season pass, like that's 100% sure, but developers are gonna have to be rushed to make a dlc come out in time, so that means crunch, unfinished content, just like we're already getting with games. Not sure what a good way to fix that would be either (aside from good worker's protection, unionising etc)

[@XCAL1BR0]

1:50 Damn, didn't expect that to ever come to life. Almost 10 years of fumbling about, and they seek to release an isometric rpg in the vicinity of POE2? Good luck to them, I guess. Artificial Core is Ukrainian studio, and I contemplated sending my CV there several times, but looked up online how former employees regard their time there, and opted out of trying. Say what you want about mobile adware games, but the companies I worked with in that branch of gamedev always were chill. No management and HR toxicity.

[@Trace153]

Please call us “Consumers” gamers is a term used now in a negative way excusing treating us like loyal idiots to brands.

[@kola197]

🙄 lol

[@j3ttmaverick]

All Hail Lord Gaben

[@zacksmith5644]

I d rather hail Lina khan

[@BARDI77]

my problem with this is that valve shouldnt be the one forcing developers to be more transparents, it should be us the customers, if we as a group accept anticonsumer practices then its our fault, its like if you see 10000 dollars on the ground on the midle of nowhere arent you going to take it? game developers are becoming greedy because we let them be greedy

[@Homiloko2]

Both are valid. That's like saying we shouldn't need any laws because everyone should behave and not commit crimes? We should not commit crimes, but we also need the laws. We should not buy scummy slop, but someone has to stop anti-consumer practices when they happen.

[@BARDI77]

@@Homiloko2 yes, I am not fluent with english so I didnt express myself right what I wanted to say is more on the line of whe should be the first to demand if we want companies to respect us instead of waiting for steam to save us, its still really good that steam does this and I hope now they stop forcing us to us external acounts like EA play, playstation and ubisoft

[@theanimer1]

Issue is. You need to be big to make companies listen. It's easy to ignore customers if enough listen. It's hard to ignore steam which is where most companies get their sales through.

[@BARDI77]

@@theanimer1 yup at the end of the day the customer is always right as long as there is enough customers to make an impact

[@qu1253]

This is why I'm baffled that so many youtubers try to treat whales in free2play games like victims. They're not. They chose to keep hitting that purchase button. No one held a gun to their head and made them do it. We don't need laws regulating microtransactions. We need consumers to have standards.

[@TheLordNugget]

Hey, one of the best games that I've ever played was in early access for 10 years. I mean, name 1 game that released in early access that evolved more than 7 Days to Die. Everything else I 100% agree on. Valve has been one of the few companies that fights for their consumer base. They even took on Microsoft and took it on themselves to make linux gaming a reasonable option.

[@PluuuumE]

I love how Valve is one of the ONLY modern gaming companies that still refers to us, the end user of these products, as the "customer" and not the "consumer". Whenever a company refers to us as a "consumer", it means they are serving up quite the value proposition to their ACTUAL "customers" which are their investors likely using some combination of negative game design, toxic microtransactions, or shifting an algorithm to make sure we keep playing said game. Essentially, if you're not refered too as a "customer" by these companies, you're hardly even seen as a human being by them.