Missile damage cap has been reached

[@kwasy7663]

Everyone complimenting his skaven voice and im just here thinking he's had a lot of practice with his human voice since he left the tunnels

[@ntrong32]

Lots cheese yes yes!

[@itzahoax934]

That made me chuckle. Thanks for starting my morning off with a smile!

[@buffwafflemann379]

glad im not the only one who thought that was a little too authentic of a skaven impression.

[@facecheck9101]

Skitter then leap

[@invocalyptic8796]

Hello fellow man-thing, you make good joke yes-yes! All know Skaven are-are fake-myth. Definitely not conspiracy-plan to replace and enslave man-things. Please give location-place of your nest-den so we can send gifts and ignore any scratching sounds from cellar-basement, yes-yes?

[@Witch_King]

Best skirmish cavalry: ratling guns with a lot of engineers, yes-yes

[@thrandompug2254]

I cant describe why but this comment is fucking sending me

[@torquevonthorne948]

Cavalry? More like ratalry

[@Sombike]

@@thrandompug2254 Its the yes-yes ... yes

[@TheUntamedRage]

Get yourself a girl that looks at you like Legend looks at nuclear weapons

[@blortbugman8722]

With murderous joy? Thanks but I think I'll pass lol

[@uselesscasul3164]

@@blortbugman8722 legend is a yandere confirmed?

[@dutchbannger6503]

@@blortbugman8722 When your girl is actually Julius Caesar and you're the 10th legion.

[@pain002]

@@dutchbannger6503 nEeD hIgH iQ 4 ThAt JoKe

[@shimmereyes8984]

@@dutchbannger6503 Good Alesia Times

[@CHEESENSPIEL]

6:11 Ok Legend's practice with his skaven voice has paid off, we NEED a warlock engineer voiced by him in the next patch

[@minerva9104]

@@bogdanleshenko7149 Completely revoice Ikit Claw with Legend instead.

[@mocod_2402]

@@minerva9104 I'd pay a lot for it.

[@axldlima1938]

A warlock who lives for cheese

[@Okoii]

In my experience of getting the weapon teams movement speed over 150 the animations must cap out or something because they didn’t vibrate at warp speed as i’d hoped.

[@originalcharacterplznostea2749]

Skaven learn the Terminator Teleport before everyonr in 40k. CA plz remove caps

[@JerreyRough]

Every unit of Speed requires a certain amount of Acceleration to reach it. These skills buff Speed but not Acceleration, thus after a certain point the speed buffs doesn't do anything.

[@psycho6776]

*warpstone speed

[@dragonarouser9160]

He's here the madlad

[@ysl67]

A unit can receive speed buff up to a limit called "max_tracking_ratio" in its entity data. For ratling gun unit it is 1.6 Ratling gun running speed 38*1.6=60.8 is the actual speed limit. There is a further hard cap of 200 speed for all unit. So, stacking speed buff can only be effective to a certain point and the excessive amount is wasted. Hopefully this helps.

[@teambellavsteamalice]

Interesting! Is this max speed calculted and capped first, and then lowered again by being fatigued from forced marched (or running uphill, in water or other effects)? Or is the speed boosted to insane levels above the cap, then lowered by penalties, and then checked against the cap?

[@ysl67]

​@@teambellavsteamalice From what I see in my test, I can confidently say that it works in the former way, not the latter. therefore, excessive amount of speed buff can't negate the speed penalty from fatigue and terrain. Some other findings to share: the speed buff of flying units can't make it fly faster than the "fly charge speed" in its entity data. Strider attribute will cancel the speed penalty of going uphill, but you still get the downhill speed buff as usual.

[@teambellavsteamalice]

@@ysl67 Cool to know, thanks!

[@Sylinnilys]

Moving fast is +10-20, have you checked If moving fast is a part of the cap?

[@Elandrianthetrue]

What a fucking nerd you are. I love it. Greatly appreciated.

[@ftayl5]

You're absolutely auditioning to voice a skaven character aren't you.

[@jaiden1121]

Would be perfect, the cheese lord being a voice actor for skaven in the next dlc with them

[@heygek2769]

@@jaiden1121 Should get his own Legendary Lord,;the 'Lord of Legendary Cheese'

[@onatyungul872]

@@heygek2769 Or a legendary hero for next LL of Skaven.

[@N0ahface]

@@onatyungul872 Or even just a unique starting hero like Cavill the Loremaster for Eltharion

[@JoshSweetvale]

Pass. He's encouraged incel crap in the past. HE HAS. He's not doing that anymore, but too late, tok early.

[@vahlen5281]

The ratling guns are probably slower because they were also going uphill. Or it might be an animation issue.

[@purplefood1]

Animation limit would be my guess as well. Weird they allow a stat to go higher than the unit can actually achieve.

[@JB-xl2jc]

Part of it is animation, forced march, and the hill. It’s also possible it was “acceleration”. He changed their destination a bit a couple of times which means that they need to accelerate up to speed again, and while their speed increased a lot their acceleration probably didn’t at all. Turn speed, acceleration, deceleration, for some reason it’s all tracked separately

[@TheSolitaryEye]

Rats were not meant to run so fast on such stumpy legs.

[@Soviless99]

@@TheSolitaryEye thats. best explanation

[@TheBouregard]

They also need to turn a lot and they are prettyslow at it. So yes, they may outrun cavalry on a long straight road but not outmanoevre them.

[@ricwalker6600]

battles like this make me wish there was a tool that shows how much enemies were killed by what spell or global skill. for example the nukes killcount.

[@janverfaillie2588]

Couldnt you calculate it by adding up killed enemies minus the kills on your units???

[@samchristiansen8176]

@@janverfaillie2588 That's just a tedious pain in the ass tho

[@Jacob-ge1py]

@@janverfaillie2588 Not with tomb kings; you'd also be counting the units that crumbled.

[@janverfaillie2588]

@@Jacob-ge1py what about skaven menace below??

[@ricwalker6600]

@@janverfaillie2588 as Jacob says and that goes for all 3 undead factions. plus the ai can becheesed to friendly fire and those kills would too mess up your calculation.

[@MrDrCthulhu]

Hit-and-run-skitter ratling guns! Yes-yes! And a beautiful doom rocket for the dead things! If only it had a kill counter like normal units, what a magnificent drop that was.

[@amphitheremajesticon4928]

So do I. I tried getting the kill number at the end of the battle end screen but remembered that undead factions have their entire army disintegrate. You can probably just look at how many spearmen or skele warriors there were at the nuke and estimate.

[@justanotherfan52]

Legend has THE BIGGEST BRAIN OF ALL PLAYERS! Hatched a simple-masterful scheme. First, hide all the valuable units, second make all these dead-things DIE-DIE!

[@elarion2341]

This is gonna be a slaughter That nuke tho, holy hell

[@alexanderbaber5157]

The nuke was great, tho that one skeleton in the middle of the blast who just shrugged it off and continued running forward. How many saving throws did that now make.

[@Psilocybear]

Tomb Kings will have some serious PTSD after this. That nuke was glorious

[@brockbabcock3086]

6:31 i couldnt help but laugh at the running flaming rat after the nuke drop

[@PsyduckScientist]

Give that rat a medal or something, lol.

[@RimshotKiller]

@@PsyduckScientist I think it got eaten afterwards, tasty burned meat-flesh.

[@Killerz34]

Lmao loved that nuke excitement xD!!! like a kid at christmas

[@callusklaus2413]

At 6:10, you can clearly hear where the skaven standing behind legend knocked him out and took over playing for a moment.

[@imperialfist2304]

Legend is slowly devolving to a Skaven, _the cheese is getting to him_

[@fishskin1185]

I think you mean evolving

[@Mechagodzilla128]

Skaven is improvement yes yes.

[@zach942]

legend has always been a skaven

[@Zquirrelthing]

the movement speed made me laugh out loud holy shit lmao

[@holdinmcgroin8639]

Man, Skryre is such a powerful faction

[@theupperechelon7634]

They are my favorite if you just want a lazy, casual game with lots of campaign mechanics and possibilities. *lazy because they are so powerful.

[@Dotalol123]

@@theupperechelon7634 Its the best faction hands down to exploit the AI, plus their army roster is ridiculous, its literally time-warping modern warfare into medieval era. :)

[@timmischkewitz7335]

@@bogdanleshenko7149 But you steam-role the map insanely fast. I got super lucky during my campaign. Clan eshin offered me to confederate with them and apparently they confederated with clan mors, while controlling the whole south-eastern map.

[@JB-xl2jc]

@@bogdanleshenko7149 Now you can abandon Skavenblight on turn 1 and use your food to recolonize it at level 3 on turn 2. Then farm nearby towns for food (sack cities), and you can have a rapidly advancing capital putting you ahead techwise and barely gimping general development

[@TheChreezyy]

@@JB-xl2jc better tier 4 on turn 3...

[@mitchellmitting6678]

'Missile Damage cap has been reached' Instant click for one reason: Missiles had a damage cap?

[@kroxigordundee7767]

The problem is that missile damage buff are often just reload time reduction so the cap exist cuz you can't be faster than animations

[@hoppou748]

@@kroxigordundee7767 what if I cast Ptra's Incantation of Righteous Smiting? The damage for my soul caskets state that it is over 10k when I do that and they have experience

[@mitchellmitting6678]

@@kroxigordundee7767 Eh, I believe in Ork logic

[@MrEddie4679]

@@mitchellmitting6678 Dakka Dakka Dakka!

[@mitchellmitting6678]

@@MrEddie4679 Neva nuff dakka

[@desen6486]

The Jezzail was actually really important to keep with the ratling guns in this situation. It has basically unlimited ammo anyway thanks to the engineers and would have broken the enemy's silver shields.

[@nicpardon1057]

6:23 dam that was cool shot and it moved the balance of power bar quiet a bit

[@brandonwort]

Now put in night/gutter runners and you’ll have some olympic sprinters

[@Aredel]

Unless you’re in an Eshin campaign, where they get AP. Then you have the ultimate rat-ninjas

[@shimmereyes8984]

"I love the smell of warpstone in the morning"-LegendofTotalWar 2020- Ikit Claw: Big Brained Rat this one turned out to be Yes-Yes.

[@mrjones3573]

“Really wish we weren’t on forcemarch, but i’m glad we’ve got a NUKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XD

[@JB-xl2jc]

NUuUuKE!!

[@Valforg]

Let me just say it again for the people on the back Humm... R A T L I N G G U N C A V A L R Y

[@votecthulhu9378]

TACHANKA

[@parsa1372]

RATLING GUN WAGONSSSS...CHARIOTS OF DOOM-DOOM

[@minerva9104]

Rat Ogre ratling gun weapons teams.

[@tamago3131992]

It's not about the max speed of the unit, it's about their acceleration, even with 7x speed their acceleration is still the same that's why it takes a lot of time for them to reach max speed

[@Jay-nj9xj]

i've literally just finished a clan skyre campaign after doing this, the cheesey bit is once your warlocks are low concede defeat before the ranged get damaged and then attack again next turn, it doesn't matter if your warlocks are low in the next battle cause the ranged will kill the wounded enemy infantry before they can even reach them

[@Legio9Hispana]

This army was on forced march though

[@thespudster7781]

A friend of mine tested it, jezzails and ratling guns have a speed cap of around 50 because of the animation

[@voidywanderer4231]

Forced march affects the troops' vigor, which concequently affects their speed (as well as melee atc/def, charge and reload speed). As far as I remember, max speed debuff is -15%, applied to total speed after those engineer buffs apparently. Unfortunately the in-battle unit card doesn't explicitly reflect the vigor effects, so you need to calculate them yourself. Also, most skaven units have a speed debuff while having >50% health (which equals to -12%) and this can be seen when the battle starts (speed drops from 102 to 88). This means that real speed of ratling guns in this battle is close to 75, hence their "slowness" relative to what you would expect seeing these bad boys with 102 speed at start

[@bennemeth625]

The Jeff we've seen on streams and in the thumbnails is actually just a puppet. The real legend is a man-sized rat.

[@scorbiot]

Those carrion were doing incredible damage to those ratling guns. It looks as if they could have taken all the ratling guns out, if they kept at it.

[@tipsycreations7290]

He kept saying "Who would have thought" but like.....that's literally one of the only two things Carrion do somewhat well, so yeah I woulda thought lol.

[@stephenmemelord2303]

That feel when you realize you have a nuke. That feel when you realize your miniguns deal more damage than a nuke per shot. BLISS

[@Firemanboth]

The Skaven in him came out in this video. You gotta listen closely before he drops the nuke!

[@bificommander]

Carrion were fed up getting dunked on by Legend, so they went and got some payback.

[@saltedllama2759]

I've had similar scenarios where the AI isn't nearly as dumb against my Skaven doomstacks anymore. They never follow the Plague Priests or Doomwheels around, and my summoned rats never clog them up for more than two seconds either. They just charge around all of that and go straight for my weapons teams.

[@NevaehCyanide]

Tomb Kings : Noooo, you can't do that! Clan Skryre : Doom rocket go boom-boom!

[@casawi1986]

Legend in every single time you play with skaven you laugh, you enjoy playing skaven more that any other race 😀.

[@Gorbz]

Last Skryer game I played was hillarious. Nuking Grimgor, being allied with all Dwarves, and a bunch of assassins hanging around in the Chaos wastes and stabbing anyone who showed up.

[@dan7533]

skeleton : finally! they are outnumbered! Let see how these pest like to taste their own medicine! skaven : we got ourselves-selves some target practice. yes-yes.

[@capnfungi7875]

6:15 legend's true skaven has awoken

[@12345DJay]

i threw my hands above my head like. LEGEND. THROW THE NUKE IN WHAT ARE YOU DOING? literally 1 second later. oh i got a nuke. YEET

[@lofty9999]

6:00 The best Legend moment of all time.

[@mofogie]

you should see the missile DMG on the Sunmaker with Markus Wulfhart and his engineer. gets up to into the 3000s

[@Redneckkratos]

6:11 yes-yes!!!! If nasty CA-things don’t hire-get legend to voice glorious skaven in game 3, we bring the vermintide!!!!!

[@Njordsbeard]

I struggle with the micro needed for Skaven, but nothing is more satisfying than a good weapons team volley. That was also the best Doom Rocket I've ever seen

[@warhammerguy]

Legend realizing he got a nuke making his voice change mid sentence into skaven is amazing.

[@anxietyfox4322]

I have an incredible amount of anxiety from the way he never pauses the game while giving orders

[@darthvardrak1235]

One cannot save and give battle orders on legendary campaign difficulty. If you are used to this like legend is, you won't do it even on other difficulties, because you simply forget about the feature even existing most of the time.

[@MacedonZero]

The most surprising part of this video is that legend used control groups

[@oliverhulme6520]

6:13 Somebody just got possessed I swear

[@ForceOfWill270]

I lost it on the skaven voice! 😂😂😂 I just subscribed. Thanks for all the informative and entertaining vids!!!

[@TheDrexxus]

Skaven are the most fun race in total war in my opinion. They have stalk stance where they can ambush offensively, which is amazing as hell and super powerful. They have the underground movement stance which lets them bypass mountains as well as shit terrain. Their ranged weapons are second to none as Ikit claw. Ratling guns put out more damage than just about anything, while jezzails outrange any other missile units in the game that aren't artillery. About the only weakness they have is that plague claw catapults to have the best artillery range. The big cannons have decent range, but even they can be outranged. BUT, it doesn't really matter because you can drop clan rats like candy anywhere on the map instantly, so you can tie up and murder artillery, tie up cavalry, block for you, whatever. And dont even get me started on the nuke... Plague magic is also amazing, with useful summons AND a great aoe damage spell. I have played all the races and had varying levels of interest in them, but Ikit claw's campaign is the first one I enjoyed from start to finish. You can just mass produce powerful doomstacks that are powerful in autoresolve as well as fun to play. About the only aspect that isn't 100% always fun is siege battles. My catapults can sometimes inflict army loss penalty on the enemy before they run out of ammo, and even if they don't they soften them up substantially. Most fun in siege battles i've ever had was playing as grimgor with 6 invincible black orcs that just climb the walls and murder everything in the city while grimgor and the heroes just watch from a distance. XD

[@monkeytoes24]

My mans just said "Disaster campaign? Nah, I'll use 5 units and dance with another four for effect

[@Marcel-eg9bz]

Friend, I have to say your content is really, really good these days. I don't follow you like a stalker by any means, but I have noticed a shift in your attitude or your mood, or whatever - and it really has made a tremendously positive impact on your content. I've enjoyed your videos for a few years now, and I can say with certainty that you've never been better. I'm happy for you, keep up the good work!

[@georgerafa5041]

I noticed the improvement in attitude too. It's been fun to see. Dont get me wrong, I enjoyed old school Legend but new Legend is just charming

[@mandowarrior123]

People keep complaining on stream he is grumpy, but they clearly haven't watched him very long xD

[@agamenmmon7210]

Ahh yes, Skaven cavalry-artillery

[@ashesofaranea]

did okoii send this disaster battle lol

[@synka5922]

okoii would have had 18 engineers, cuz 2500+ missile strength

[@zerothefool1599]

What a coincidence, I just tried an engineer + weapon team spam last night for my first Skyre campaign. I used much more firepower and fewer Engineers though, with some jezails for taking out superior ranged units. They definitely do move as fast as advertised, I think here the terrain + force march was at issue.

[@LaPtaVerdad]

Love watching legend become insane with rats in the morning xD

[@blackrider5629]

6:50 GUCCI MAGICS?

[@thomasdonovan7969]

Maybe they've got Versace too

[@westdancer8376]

Lmaoo xD

[@darksoul4858]

Man, Prohet and the Warlock really just went: Blance? Mehhh, Skaven? Yes-Yes!

[@systemshocker7634]

Legend says Calvary and I instantly think of the horse sandwich! Thanks for all the great content Legend.

[@wonderboy2402]

With that much shooting, I bet the hilltop glowed for 10,000 years after.

[@thevix9794]

I think it's finally been revealed that Legend is a skaven in disguise, that laugh

[@95DarkFire]

All other races: "Look, our warriors are so skilled with their bows/crosbows/guns!" Ratlings: *BRRRRRRRRRRRT*

[@spencegame]

Effective use of Break Contact, truly you are a cavalry man.

[@dt534]

That Warlock Engineer laugh was beautiful

[@DeadlyNightshadeZ]

The doomwheels getting 'stuck in' with the enemy is precisely why I use doom flayers instead.

[@EddieTheLightbringer]

The utter Skaven-esque glee you hear in his voice is how you know he's a Skaven player.

[@Romczy]

6:11 someone sniffed some warpstone dust I guess, 6:20 boom thats a lot of damage

[@Aredel]

*Phil Swift intensifies*

[@mishmashmarsh9499]

"It's a crap spell, but I don't know what else to use" Meanwhile you got 9 engineers all with warp lightning.

[@W1s3F0x]

Legend: “Possibly the biggest kill count on nuke that I've ever seen“ Meanwhile me with a really good pc, gets the game to crash in a battle against emperor Karl Franz, because I nuked his army at a choke point and killed round about 70% of the total number.

[@dhwwiiexpert]

Haha, nice!!

[@SONGS5665]

6:18 God, that was satisfying...

[@SerLoinSteak]

The speed issue is from being force marched since it makes the units start the battle tired so they have -10% speed to begin with which then goes to -15% as they get more exhausted. Which would effectively put the ratlings at around 70 speed

[@faltaris2231]

6:10 YES-YES PLEASE

[@Daytripping94]

Holy shit that nuke tho

[@dakotadean7551]

The reason why the ratling gunners werent moving all that fast is that there are some actual limits to how fast a unit can actually move depending on their unit type and starting speed. For example Infantry with a standard speed of 30 might have a max speed of 50, meanwhile light cav can achieve their max speed bonus around +30-40. Its why when people use cheat mods that have 5000 speed bonus that the units dont just teleport to wherever you click.

[@poorpriest4549]

Skeletons marching on ratlinguns - "Why do we hear Serious Sam music?"

[@JustinVaysset]

Yeah that Skaven voice scared the fuck outta me . I thought a demon was trying to tell me to set off a nuke

[@diegoblanco4482]

4:57 “Operation Desert Rat”. Love it.

[@davidhorton188]

you truly are the ghengis khan of warhammer, love the content mate.

[@UCeagle79]

If you add a couple of nets or hellpit aboms to hold up monsters this might be one of the best armies in the whole game. the guns rip everything. the wheels provide crowd control and speed. and the heros are great too. This is a scary scary good army.

[@CrzyLion]

lol was just thinking that the a real test for this army would be against artillery and cav, then legend closes video with exactly that facing the stack xD

[@dustin3596]

6:12 wow... just channeled your inner skaven

[@thedeadcannotdie]

The souls of those tomb king soldiers r gonna be haunted by Nam flashbacks for the rest of eternity

[@DraconiusDragora]

Their speed is heavily effected by the force march, + they get tired at the start of battle, which also effects the speed. And the game really doesn't count out the negative of it (So it doesn't show a small red line on the actual speed. But I think the calculation was somewhat like 20% of your total speed is reduced, so 88 would be 72, 112 would be 90-92 something like that. Which can be felt)

[@casusincorrabilis1584]

Best Doomstack I use: 6 warlocks, 1-2 plague priests, 3 warpfire cannons, 1-2 doomwheels, 6-8 Jezzails. Yes, Jezzails. Insane Range, good DPS, fire in arcs, so you can easily use your spawns for crowd control and also cheese in siege. Also enough ammo for 3 enemy stacks.

[@KnightspaceORG]

Legend is turning into a Skaven with every video.

[@SWtaervdesn]

This was hardly a disater, more so a hard battle to test the mettle of Legend.

[@favre4ever39]

Bernard Montgomery: I have the most famous Desert Rats. Legend: not so fast fucker.

[@SilentMorbus2]

find someone that loves you like legend loves the skaven

[@deanprowell7947]

You know it's good when Legend goes full Skaven

[@notilluminati1295]

Dat Balance of Power jump with the nuke.

[@sinek666]

Man, that Nuke was so epic XD

[@marcopolo3956]

Holy shit you could hear his inner skaven leaking out when he saw the nuke

[@belafeldbusch3397]

Legend being happy about nukes will always make me smile

[@cassenadcock9066]

listening to you go full skaven mode is always a treat.

[@JohnSmith-bs9ym]

This is literally industrial level tech vs. tribals with rags.

[@tomaszjackowski1981]

"Operation Desert Rat"

[@DerSisch]

ok... CA... we need a new Skaven Lord, voiced by Legend. It only makes sence. Even when you create one from the scratch. Just do it.

[@Schizskai]

Remember the bug which had vampire coast's necrocollosus regiment unit he had over 5k missile dmg but it was the typo because he couldn't one shot any single entity units