The Evolution of The Center Position in The NBA

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@triippygawd2055
@triippygawd2055 6 жыл бұрын
So no one notices how at 3:44 his wristband blends in perfectly with the backboard lol
@NealBones
@NealBones 6 жыл бұрын
That's crazy actually. What are the odds that both are the exact same shade of white
@dwaynehoward240
@dwaynehoward240 6 жыл бұрын
Good call
@NealBones
@NealBones 6 жыл бұрын
@Not so Wealthy Gamer I know man, shit had to be taken right then otherwise it wouldn't have shown up. Its something small but it's still crazy to me 😂
@lsslegendgeorge9948
@lsslegendgeorge9948 6 жыл бұрын
I thought it was photoshopped bro nice eyes men
@srdjanjanic
@srdjanjanic 6 жыл бұрын
I do!
@elmarnigmatullin4490
@elmarnigmatullin4490 6 жыл бұрын
Man, you completely forgot Mehmet Okur who was the predecessor of that big man shooting threes era. The success his Utah Jazz had in second half of 2000s didn't go unnoticed.
@michaelhaydenbell
@michaelhaydenbell 5 жыл бұрын
Dirk was almost exclusively a PF up until the past few years, so that's not really relevant here. He DID revolutionize that PF position though.
@dbdperson9595
@dbdperson9595 5 жыл бұрын
My Mom Says I'm a Champion he did both
@dumisatonyjohnson8145
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 5 жыл бұрын
Gus Gang Dirk was a Forward Bird originated the “stretch 4” role in the early 80s
@smallworldz7241
@smallworldz7241 5 жыл бұрын
Most ppl don’t know all that these days bro
@Steve_643
@Steve_643 5 жыл бұрын
The Bad Boy Pistons has Bill Laimbeer spacing out the floor as a 3 point shooter at the C Position. It definitely helped our Guards take it the hole or kick out as defense brokedown.
@hokadre8730
@hokadre8730 6 жыл бұрын
8:11 ah yes. i loved that 1970-1998 season
@ricanLegend2003
@ricanLegend2003 5 жыл бұрын
Andre Aoun 😂😂
@connormccoy1907
@connormccoy1907 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah it felt like it lasted 28 years didn’t it?
@djwhiter2174
@djwhiter2174 5 жыл бұрын
I guess he forgot how to say "-" in a sentence
@aaronghunter
@aaronghunter 4 жыл бұрын
Almost as long as the 2019-2020 season, for real.
@saeedsenpai5530
@saeedsenpai5530 4 жыл бұрын
thats one long ass season lmaooo
@bjnt922
@bjnt922 6 жыл бұрын
The rise, decline and revival of the Center position and how basketball teams are built kind of reminds me of the running back position in football. Back in the day football offenses were built around a dominant running game and running backs were bigger stars even than some quarterbacks. But thanks to a combination of rule changes that opened up the passing game and teams taking advantage of them as well as many teams now a days deciding to save money on the salary cap by going “running back by committee” instead of paying them huge salaries. And teams like the Denver Broncos and their talent for finding backs in the later rounds of the draft or even undrafted free agents that could crank out 1,000 yards like clockwork. The position seemed to be not as a necessity as it had been in the past. Heck there wasn’t even a single running back taken in the first round of the draft for two straight years this decade. Now it looks like Todd Gurley, Zeke Elliot, Leveon Bell, and Saquan Barkley the tide may be swinging in favor of them again.
@husneiniqbal228
@husneiniqbal228 5 жыл бұрын
That was a great comparison
@dreskee8422
@dreskee8422 5 жыл бұрын
It takes special players to prove their worth to the league and its fan base.😎
@whlteshadow9570
@whlteshadow9570 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention Derrick Henry.
@husseinhersi3776
@husseinhersi3776 6 жыл бұрын
do the evolution of point guards next @LegendofWinning
@freddyfontan476
@freddyfontan476 6 жыл бұрын
I was legit about to comment this, I would eat that video up, as this one was already amazing
@michaelmayers3622
@michaelmayers3622 6 жыл бұрын
Pgs are not really diff
@jorgeanta2912
@jorgeanta2912 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Mayers they changed severely from the time of the 60s to now
@DavidIPreston
@DavidIPreston 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Mayers They have changed a lot, they are now combo guards. Pgs play like shooting guards at the 1 spot.
@tmac731
@tmac731 6 жыл бұрын
Derrick Rose is the OG of these new generation scoring PGs. What point guard was avg 25+pts b4 Derrick?
@nbabackcourtmedia
@nbabackcourtmedia 6 жыл бұрын
The long awaited video is FINALLY HERE
@billnye1329
@billnye1329 6 жыл бұрын
You should do the evolution of the power forward position and how it used to be used as the more dominant position in the 80s and 90s and 2000s and how now it is one of the weakest positions in the nba like how the centers were in 2011-2015
@AnkleIsland
@AnkleIsland 6 жыл бұрын
Well Centers and Pf go hand and hand with the more Centers that can shoot
@JoeBro915
@JoeBro915 6 жыл бұрын
Power forward position doesn’t exist anymore. If you play there, you’re either a wing (Tobias Harris), or a big (Anthony Davis)
@albanybestdrumline
@albanybestdrumline 5 жыл бұрын
@@JoeBro915 thought the 4 was essentially a 3 (a good inside outside player) just bigger
@deandrepage1048
@deandrepage1048 5 жыл бұрын
The EUROPEAN Stretch-4 narrative changed the game forever when it made its way to the USA.
@deandrepage1048
@deandrepage1048 5 жыл бұрын
@@JoeBro915 You are about to see a more SKILLED BIG in Anthony Davis to replace Boogie Cousins Stretch-5 Floor Spacing for the Lakers. Anthony Davis replaced Kyle Kuzma at the 4-spot, letting McGee & Dwight Howard bang in the paint against bruiser-style Centers. Increased assist total & 37% for 3-pointers. 😀😀😀 Ballhandler skills of a former point guard that experienced a tremendous growth spurt.
@Seaz333
@Seaz333 6 жыл бұрын
The Evolution of The Cheerleading Position in The NBA pls
@aidenwood2273
@aidenwood2273 6 жыл бұрын
You really want a video on drake?
@KaleEb449
@KaleEb449 6 жыл бұрын
The Mario Chalmers special
@yanniskarageorgiou3573
@yanniskarageorgiou3573 6 жыл бұрын
Why would we need that?
@zenmar84
@zenmar84 6 жыл бұрын
Mark Madsen was the best.
@mr.choppsticksgaming1694
@mr.choppsticksgaming1694 6 жыл бұрын
Ahmpire Lavar Ball, is the most dominant cheerleader out there... BBB
@mattbutler7618
@mattbutler7618 5 жыл бұрын
Shaq dunking on Chris Dudley is one of the greatest dunks ever !😂 especially because of what they did to Rodman a couple plays before
@ogbmt
@ogbmt 6 жыл бұрын
Between 2010 and 2015; yes centers were awful, but Dwight Howard, Marc Gasol and Chris Bosh were in my opinion very good at the center position in that time period. The statistical category you gave about rebounds is a little bit misleading because Marc Gasol and Bosh were not high volume rebounders. Zach Randolph was the main rebounder for Memphis and rebounding wasn't the identity of the Miami Heat (who were known at the time for fading into transition defence immediately in most situations and not even going for O boards).
@cluc5239
@cluc5239 4 жыл бұрын
between 2010-2015 is when dwight was at his peak, how do you say no good centers? prime superman was great
@casualfandestroyer2503
@casualfandestroyer2503 4 жыл бұрын
cluc yeah but once he left Orlando he wasn’t a top 5 player anymore you know
@TheIcemanthomas
@TheIcemanthomas 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like theres gonna be a ultra mega bigman that will be something we've never seen before that can combine all aspects of every great bigs game. Someone with elite athelticism, a low post game, agile enough to defend on the perimeter but still a great rim protector, elite passer in transition. in the halfcourt and out of the post, and can shoot from anywhere. I feel it coming within the next decade.
@mkratos17
@mkratos17 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think so too someone that can leap out of gym run like a guard strong like Ben Wallace
@savycalo6212
@savycalo6212 6 жыл бұрын
Closest thing to this has been Hakeem Olajuwon. He was a elite rime protector who was fast enough to guard perimeter players. He also had a solid jump shot and took ocasional 3’s his post game was nearly unstoppable. He also avg. around 3 assist a game. He was a monster and if a player similar to Hakeem comes into the league that can shoot consistent 3’s and Pass Great that would be a sight to see
@natekuhl7427
@natekuhl7427 6 жыл бұрын
CPGoat #3 What about the Greek freak?!?! I’d say he basically checks off every category you mentioned. With the exception of “elite shooter, able to shoot from anywhere” Other than that tho........ athleticism on 💯, he’s a great defender. Rim protector fo sho. As well as being quick enough to guard the perimeter. Transition/fast break game.... I don’t even need to say anything. So ya, basically Giannis checks off all those. Let him develop a consistent long range/3 ball jump shot within a few years. 😳 terrifying 😱 he’s the new breed/ next generation type of NBA athlete.
@BEANETT
@BEANETT 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds abit like anthony davis
@TheIcemanthomas
@TheIcemanthomas 6 жыл бұрын
@@natekuhl7427 if he doesn't fit in every category hes not what I'm describing, but hes the closest thing too it.
@zeroun92
@zeroun92 6 жыл бұрын
How you gonna disrespect Marc Gasol during the dark ages? He got the center position through.
@TC-pp7hx
@TC-pp7hx 5 жыл бұрын
Stanley Anderson and Andrew bynum. he was good at the time too
@MauriceDel-Taco
@MauriceDel-Taco 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@tyrellhines9304
@tyrellhines9304 Жыл бұрын
Early in Marc’s career he was a dominant post big then he had to develop and 3 point jumper Zach Randolph did too.
@Noifsnobutsnococonuts-rj4kk
@Noifsnobutsnococonuts-rj4kk Ай бұрын
Being the most undeserving DPOY, he deserves every amount of disrespect
@TheIcemanthomas
@TheIcemanthomas 6 жыл бұрын
send this video to any person that doesnt know the NBAs history that truly believe that wilt, Russell and Kareem faced little white men.
@sammyjero1986
@sammyjero1986 6 жыл бұрын
Wilt and russel do not have nearly as much skill and finesse as today’s centers. They were GREAT, but not as good as centers like Demarcus Cousins who uses more that just physical dominance. You can’t tell me the competition today is easier that it was in the 60’s
@TheIcemanthomas
@TheIcemanthomas 6 жыл бұрын
@@sammyjero1986 Russell does everything that guys like Clint capela, Ben Wallace, Draymond green, Kenneth Faried, Jared Allen, Tyson Chandler do. Not every center is a finesse center today. And wilt was much more than just power. Not only is he a monster athlete. but he had quick feet, ran the floor like a deer, was an elite passer, great rebounder, had all types of fadeaway, hook shots, etc. Both would excell in any era. EPESCIALLY given that they would grow up in todays game and would be taught how to adjust. and they would be allowed to be alot more physical than in their heavy rule driven era where any amount of physicality would be called an offensive foul, where as today the rules favor the offenseive player.
@BigStallProductions
@BigStallProductions 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheIcemanthomas You said it perfectly. Brought up the skill set AND the fact that players from back then would have access to advanced sports science, weight training, nutrition, and learning from past greats. The fact that Wilt came off a knee injury that was thought to be career ending in the 69 season and averaged 21 point, 18 rebounds, and played 44 minutes a game for all 82 games the very next season just shows what a freak he is.
@jorgeanta2912
@jorgeanta2912 6 жыл бұрын
sammy jero dude Russell and wilt will do perfectly fine in today’s era on just wilt athletic body no center in this day of age will even keep up with him or contain him unless Russell. Since he knew how to defend him extremely well and even then wilt might still average 25+. You should look up on wilt he was incredible
@jon-vegard8386
@jon-vegard8386 6 жыл бұрын
@@sammyjero1986 I'm not sure you're aware of how skilled Wilt was. He was one of the first to ever use the fadeaway. Most give credit to Jordan for that, but Wilt did it long before him. Nevermind the fact that he was stronger than Shaq, even with a slimmer frame. Russell, on the other hand, if you were to pluck him right out of his era and put him into today's era, I'm not sure he'd be as successful. But he would definitely be a perennial DPOY who could probably be the best running big man in the league.
@pau757
@pau757 6 жыл бұрын
Love the style of the video man keep it up
@BigBagOfFrikenAirFak
@BigBagOfFrikenAirFak 5 жыл бұрын
Nikola Jokic is the evolution of the big man.
@kbuss4
@kbuss4 5 жыл бұрын
BigBagOfFrikenAirFak Joel Embiid is
@BigBagOfFrikenAirFak
@BigBagOfFrikenAirFak 5 жыл бұрын
Kbuss04 Joel embiid is no different than the centers before him and the already 3 point heavy nba. Jokic changed the mold, jokic is the future and the evolution. Embiid is not the evolution of anything
@syphon1239
@syphon1239 5 жыл бұрын
@@BigBagOfFrikenAirFak embiid is hakeem.
@petesimonsimon2054
@petesimonsimon2054 5 жыл бұрын
I Hakeem was always injured
@petesimonsimon2054
@petesimonsimon2054 5 жыл бұрын
The Joker is just as good and playing all season
@stephenasmithjr795
@stephenasmithjr795 6 жыл бұрын
Why does it sound like he saying “CENSOR” 😂
@RooseveltAliWashingtonX
@RooseveltAliWashingtonX 5 жыл бұрын
Did he say Brad Doe-tree?
@emcee2258
@emcee2258 5 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!
@mauricefuqua2578
@mauricefuqua2578 5 жыл бұрын
Really
@SethKasso
@SethKasso 6 жыл бұрын
Without his injuries, Joakim Noah could have been the perfect evolution of the defensive center. His passing was the perfect compliment to his defensive prowess, giving him a larger role on the offensive end than previous defensive centers like Camby, Mutombo, and Big Ben.
@carlosyanes3453
@carlosyanes3453 6 жыл бұрын
If he would've improved his shooting he could've taken it to the next level
@SethKasso
@SethKasso 6 жыл бұрын
@@carlosyanes3453 TBF, he already had a solid mid-range shot. It was ugly as sin, but it went it. I think he would have been smart enough to expand his range out more if he were still relied upon as much as he was in Chicago.
@chuokwongcheung9950
@chuokwongcheung9950 6 жыл бұрын
Laimbeer with the...you know, Flagrant fouls Lmao that had me dead
@TheLuckyDevil
@TheLuckyDevil 6 жыл бұрын
"bill laimbeer with his... flagrant fouls" 😂
@milesbrophy5889
@milesbrophy5889 4 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard bruh😂
@Abbad1579
@Abbad1579 4 жыл бұрын
@@milesbrophy5889 Same 🤣🤣
@Miles-Spider-Man
@Miles-Spider-Man 6 жыл бұрын
I remember all those videos stating why the Centers are dead.
@pwx13
@pwx13 6 жыл бұрын
Evin, j, S the center position did die now they are overrated three point shooters
@kohsmoger1567
@kohsmoger1567 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Joel Embiid, Jokic, KAT, Cousins, AD, Ayton, Vucevic are much more than 3 point shooters
@kohsmoger1567
@kohsmoger1567 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Than you have defensive centers such as Myles Turner, Gobert, Drummond, DeAndre Jordan, Steven Adams, Clint Capella, Nurkic, Jarrett Allen,Gasol, Willie caulie stein and Whiteside.If you look at every playoff team they have a good to great Center with some exceptions in the west the dubs have Cousins, the nuggets have Jokic, the thunder have Adams, the blazers have Nurkic, the rockets have Capella, the jazz have Gobert, the spurs have LaMarcus or jokab and the kings have Willie caullie stein. The east has brook lopez for the bucks, Gasol for the raptors, Turner for the pacers, al Horford for the Celtics, Joel Embiid for the sixers, Jarrett Allen for the nets and Whiteside for the heat. The hornets don’t have a good Center.
@dbdperson9595
@dbdperson9595 5 жыл бұрын
Robert imagine thinking being a center shooting threes makes you not a center😂🤣
@jayvionwilliams4061
@jayvionwilliams4061 5 жыл бұрын
Koh Smoger nurkic cant play defense gtfo
@kellylengombouala6392
@kellylengombouala6392 6 жыл бұрын
This is your dopest video bro. Would be dope if you went down the rest of the 4 positions
@kevinsavo3650
@kevinsavo3650 6 жыл бұрын
yes
@Prettyboysad
@Prettyboysad 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic bro i loved every second of it. Even when presented with a lot information i already knew you kept me engaged! You also did a great job of staying unbiased and not being argumentative and rather informative I loved it!
@talaf6616
@talaf6616 6 жыл бұрын
1:55 that’s my school gym wtf. Happy you picked footage of Tre and Tyus
@dwaynehoward240
@dwaynehoward240 6 жыл бұрын
Fr?
@talaf6616
@talaf6616 6 жыл бұрын
I’m serious, Saint Thomas Academy
@dwaynehoward240
@dwaynehoward240 6 жыл бұрын
@@talaf6616 nice
@libertines24
@libertines24 4 жыл бұрын
you called it. Centers matter again. For a while centers were just line cloggers, but this final 4 showed you need centers. Jokic, Bam, and AD showed what a good modern center should be. Gives me hope for guys like KAT, Ayton, etc.
@medisimportant9373
@medisimportant9373 6 жыл бұрын
3:48 floating hand
@collinchristopher5299
@collinchristopher5299 5 жыл бұрын
Med is important the wrist was hidden behind the pole
@cohancuth9298
@cohancuth9298 5 жыл бұрын
I think he just had a white wrist band that happened to line up with the box on the backboard
@katokthefirst
@katokthefirst 5 жыл бұрын
This is a REALLY good video that helps in understanding how the 5 evolved - in a nutshell. You missed to include Sam Perkins and Arvydas Sabonis, 2 centers who gave us a glimpse of the 3-point shooting bigs today. They were considered "unconventional" in their era, but would be highly sought after in today's game.
@kay-uw5lt
@kay-uw5lt 3 жыл бұрын
jokic and embid leading the mvp race is so satisfying
@domination4892
@domination4892 3 жыл бұрын
Jokic winning MVP is so satisfying
@NicoRocha
@NicoRocha 6 жыл бұрын
Always love your content LoW. Really spot on analysis and finished the entire video without knowing it. it's awesome to learn from KZbinrs like you man.
@solomongrundy1616
@solomongrundy1616 6 жыл бұрын
The main reason why the golden age of big men wasn’t as successful as past eras was because of one man. Michael Jordan changed the paradigm of dynastic teams. He became the first perimeter player to dominate the nba in chips and statistics without a dominant front court/great big man. The rise of MJ also led to the fruitless search for “the next MJ” and rule changes to allow perimeter players to thrive offensively. MJ changed how centers were looked at as the dominant back bone of any dynastic team. I know LOW went in on this slightly but I wanted elaborate on that a little more.
@lamar1990lg
@lamar1990lg 5 жыл бұрын
Actually Isiah Thomas and the Pistons change that narrative no dominate center and no dominate power forward there elite force was Isiah and Dumars the greatest backcourt ever shame Kobe didn't get to play with prime CP3 cause that would've trumped that duo
@orueom7720
@orueom7720 5 жыл бұрын
@@lamar1990lg true....very true in fact. But due to the pistons and their dirty, sewage defence, they tarnished their own image and legacies. No one even thinks of them in the late 80s and early 90s. It's always magic and Kareem and straight to MJ. it's a shame but no one likes dirty players
@lamar1990lg
@lamar1990lg 5 жыл бұрын
@@orueom7720 there were a lot of teams playing like that they were a product of how teams played in the 70's go watch nba basketball the reason they're not favored is because of what Dennis Rodman said about Larry Bird and Isiah backed that notion which is true not taking away his greatness because Larry Bird is in my Top 5 Modern Era which is 1979 to present day but ever since then hated by the league so then they started playing like 70's basketball which the league David Stern was trying to rid of so Michael Jordan bypass Isiah as the face of the NBA even though Isiah was the head of the players agreement deal committee.
@deandrepage1048
@deandrepage1048 5 жыл бұрын
DAMN shame how Jordan devalued the Center position. 😞😞😞😞 Chicago Bulls Centers were known as the "3-headed monster." 18 fouls between the 3 of them, SAD !!! Luc Longley Will Perdue Bill Wennington
@deandrepage1048
@deandrepage1048 5 жыл бұрын
@@orueom7720 We all remember the "Bad Boys." 😀😀😀 Rick Mahorn & Bill Lambier plus Dennis Rodman trying to cripple Michael Jordan.
@robertcanty9756
@robertcanty9756 5 жыл бұрын
76ers are trying to do just that (building a team through the center position)- but they’re taking it a step further. Both their center and their point guard play their best game in the paint - and they do it in very different ways.
@patoibra77
@patoibra77 6 жыл бұрын
My favourite Position to watch and play. Maybe because all I can do is Rebound lol.
@patoibra77
@patoibra77 6 жыл бұрын
I am also decent at setting screens.
@1J2C4U
@1J2C4U 6 жыл бұрын
Play good defense certified box office caliber player
@mootwo3388
@mootwo3388 6 жыл бұрын
@@patoibra77 if you can put back and play defense and pass, thats a solid center
@darkmasterjoeskywalker7143
@darkmasterjoeskywalker7143 6 жыл бұрын
All I can do is rebound and box out and also score in the paint
@mootwo3388
@mootwo3388 6 жыл бұрын
@@darkmasterjoeskywalker7143 I'm really short and skinny, when I say short, I mean short, I'm like 12, 13 but I'm not even 4ft 10in yet.
@jimvollmer7352
@jimvollmer7352 5 жыл бұрын
Bob Pettit was a forward. I watched him in his rookie season with Milwaukee - the Hawks. Great position player. Good shooter and rebounder.
@wanlitan7406
@wanlitan7406 6 жыл бұрын
The 90s had high-level center talent, but it's not "deep". There were 5 or 6 actually good centers, then it drops off from there with the other 20 or so starting centers. In the 60s and 70s, the league was filled and concentrated not only with elite top-level center talent, but they were very deep.
@X02Overdose
@X02Overdose 6 жыл бұрын
Tan Wanli There are a lot of underrated players that no one talks/ really knows about from the 90s. Thats one of the main reasons only 5-6 guys are talked about
@wanlitan7406
@wanlitan7406 6 жыл бұрын
@@X02Overdose No. There are a lot of guys that are in fact overrated.
@X02Overdose
@X02Overdose 6 жыл бұрын
Tan Wanli Name some then lol
@bobbydigital5378
@bobbydigital5378 6 жыл бұрын
The 60's was deep in that they were all stiffs you mean.
@user-fl8ng9np7v
@user-fl8ng9np7v 5 жыл бұрын
The 60s had lots of good centers who would be great today
@smartgames1393
@smartgames1393 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, but putting Mikan in the same area as Russell, Petit, Chamberlain, and Russell is a poor one. HE was the architect of the center position that those other players followed, which you can see by looking at when Mikan's career ended and when these other players' times in the league began.
@peekafch
@peekafch 5 жыл бұрын
Mikan was a mosnter during his time and dominated the league. He forced a lot of rule change which is a testament to his dominance. Also he played with eyegalsses.
@lil_ezz120
@lil_ezz120 Жыл бұрын
Nikola Jokic is the Best Center to ever play
@doa_824
@doa_824 Жыл бұрын
Nice joke 😂
@EverythingHappens4AReason
@EverythingHappens4AReason 6 жыл бұрын
Yooo you’re definitely a trend setter and at the top of your game LOW. Thank you for the consistently great content.
@mypenisisincrediblytinybut6448
@mypenisisincrediblytinybut6448 6 жыл бұрын
Top 5 centers in the league 1 Jokic top 5 offensive player in the league. His skill set is so unique and valuable and he leads the 3rd best team in the West with no other all stars 2 Embiid (most dominant center in the league, his offensive and defensive game are truly spectacular) 3 Rudy Gobert (best defender in the league) 4 KAT (Offensive superstar, disappointing defensively) 5 Al Horford (he fits so perfectly into any offensive or defensive system. Also, there is something to be said about his ability to shut down embiid)
@jtstearns3373
@jtstearns3373 6 жыл бұрын
cousins is above Horford IMO
@DQ_Senpai
@DQ_Senpai 6 жыл бұрын
@@jtstearns3373 and Towns and KAT
@glide3694
@glide3694 6 жыл бұрын
jtstearns when he’s healthy of course, I think this is accurate at the moment though
@jtstearns3373
@jtstearns3373 6 жыл бұрын
@@glide3694 cousins has been petty good this season
@beepthecommuter1646
@beepthecommuter1646 6 жыл бұрын
Embiid is a much better offensive player than jokic lmao only thing jokic is better at is passing
@miguelrivero8155
@miguelrivero8155 6 жыл бұрын
Massive respect to Chris Bosh man. Really under appreciated player.
@tracys4161
@tracys4161 5 жыл бұрын
I love listening to someone who knows and appreciates the history of the game.
@davidSFL79
@davidSFL79 6 жыл бұрын
Was looking forward to this one. Excellent work man!
@amittheeng
@amittheeng 6 жыл бұрын
why steven adams is so underrated
@Romamb
@Romamb 5 жыл бұрын
He is not
@aaronghunter
@aaronghunter 4 жыл бұрын
He's a defensive center who, at this point, I'm still not sure we've seen the best of, because he spent a long time basically facilitating Westbrook. Also, he's a treasure.
@tomsea6017
@tomsea6017 4 жыл бұрын
@@aaronghunter lol...facilitating Westbrook? And what are his stats with Westbrook gone? Don't do that. Steven Adams is a very nice person but don't lift him up where he doesn't belong. He's a good player, that's all
@bradbruhn9586
@bradbruhn9586 6 жыл бұрын
Wow...so many times I click on a video like this and find a serious lack of knowledge of the history of the game...This was NOT the case with this one. As a longtime fan of the game (I go back to Kareem's Lakers), I not only enjoyed this but found it very inciteful. Excellent work.
@JoshuaD.Howard
@JoshuaD.Howard 6 жыл бұрын
“And Bill Laimbeer with uh...... flagrant fouls” 🤣🤣
@cmodzins
@cmodzins 4 жыл бұрын
Bill Laimbeer was an excellent outside shooter. He would force the opposing center to come out to guard him. This would open up the middle for the Piston guards.
@vic5961
@vic5961 5 жыл бұрын
"You know his flagrant fouls" 🤣🤣lmao
@willbaldwin8031
@willbaldwin8031 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing video man, keep letting everybody know the real NBA history!
@Kavothizzlafduxbfd
@Kavothizzlafduxbfd 5 жыл бұрын
2:52 did our man Wilt just block two Kareem Skyhooks in a row???
@vidcooldrake3059
@vidcooldrake3059 5 жыл бұрын
Yup
@theman9048
@theman9048 4 жыл бұрын
That's was an old wilt chamberlain who knees were shot.
@jackabah4279
@jackabah4279 6 жыл бұрын
bruh I've been watching this channel since "the 4 reasons why" videos a couple years ago....LOW is fav basketball KZbinr by far, seeing him evolve is so dope to watch
@MrE_
@MrE_ 5 жыл бұрын
6:57 that camera moment could never be recreated if they tried
@KDPhd
@KDPhd 6 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video and was honestly surprised no one has made a video on the evolution of the center position yet or something similar to it
@Solanegore
@Solanegore 6 жыл бұрын
WILT CHAMBERLAIN'S PLAYERS THAT HE FACED THAT WAS 6'11 OR TALLER FROM 1960-1972 Kareem Abdul Jabbar: 7'2" HOF Dennis Awtrey: 6'11" Walt Bellamy: 6'11" HOF Tom Boerwinkle: 7'0" Nate Bowmen: 6'11" Mel Counts: 7'0" Walter Dukes: 7'0" Jim Eakins: 6'11" Ray Felix: 6'11" Hank Finkel: 7'0" Artis Gilmore: 7'2" HOF Swede Halbrook: 7'3" Reggie Harding: 7'0" Bob Lanier: 6'11" HOF Jim McDaniels: 6'11" Otto Moore: 6'11" Dave Newmark: 7'0" Rich Niemann: 7'0" Billy Paultz: 6'11" Craig Raymond: 6'11" Elmore Smith: 7'0" Chuck Share: 6'11" Ronald Taylor: 7'1" Nate Thurmond: 6'11" HOF Walt Wesley: 6'11"
@Solanegore
@Solanegore 6 жыл бұрын
@Quibol0 EXCUSE ME!?
@mkratos17
@mkratos17 6 жыл бұрын
Nah dawg those weren't real seven footers jk btw lmfao
@Solanegore
@Solanegore 6 жыл бұрын
@@mkratos17 THERES THE PROOF BRO NO DEBATE.......GET THE BLANK OUT OF HERE.....LOOK IT UP AND GET BACK TOO ME.
@bobbydigital5378
@bobbydigital5378 6 жыл бұрын
All the stiffs Wilt faced?
@Solanegore
@Solanegore 6 жыл бұрын
@@bobbydigital5378 EXPLAIN?.
@TheRageng
@TheRageng 5 жыл бұрын
I love these kinds of analysis videos and would enjoy seeing more of them!
@thinkfiend
@thinkfiend 6 жыл бұрын
That clip of draymond blocking vonleh was literally draymonds best game
@Domenico44055
@Domenico44055 4 жыл бұрын
Greg Oden could have been the best center between 2010-2015 but he was denied by injuries and we as fans were denied by his injuries cause it would have been a SHOW seeing him play traditional center in this era, those Blazers were really loaded with talent, they were so unlucky...
@benjo40525
@benjo40525 6 жыл бұрын
Yo give us dat background music...
@boa8232
@boa8232 5 жыл бұрын
Wilt Chamberlain down in the post the only one in basketball to score 100 points in one game. I haven't seen a big man jumping out there and making threes and scored 100 points. So what's wrong with the big man dominating down below, that's also a part of the game that I grew up with and I like watching, it just made the game so much more interesting and enjoyable. Please bring the big man back!!!!! God bless. 🙏
@plaguedoctor5889
@plaguedoctor5889 6 жыл бұрын
All the 2000's centers you listed with the exception of yao ming were power forwards
@Ky8d
@Ky8d 5 жыл бұрын
Dwight Howard is a center
@ampecsu
@ampecsu 6 жыл бұрын
3:40 wristband perfectly aligned with the square
@canddtv221
@canddtv221 6 жыл бұрын
Marc gasol totally forget him he was the best center 10-15
@robertolebron2296
@robertolebron2296 5 жыл бұрын
C and d Tv and what about Tim Duncan?
@vidcooldrake3059
@vidcooldrake3059 5 жыл бұрын
@@robertolebron2296 not in that stretch
@robertolebron2296
@robertolebron2296 5 жыл бұрын
vid12 I also forgot Dwight Howard, he was still good but not like his prime years in late 2000s
@brucemercer7753
@brucemercer7753 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video... I only wish it was 3 to 5 hours long... so that you could go even more in-depth and talk bout signature moves of these players and some of their best games. You got to do a little of that here but I wish their was lots more. You gave use the in-depth encyclopedia version (probably more than an encyclopedia version). I wish this was like a 30-for-30 that added a new 30 minutes for each section. As for Bill Lambeer ... his specialty was the Screen and Fade "3" (or just shooting the 3 in general). Very few Center could shoot the deep ball at the time. And that helped the 3 great undersized, but very quick guards the Pistons relied on to get to the hoop. It more or less forced the Defense to not Switch after the screen... or if the did switch to give up a huge mismatch for both switches. (Only Stockton/Malone had a more deadly Pick and Roll Series.)
@seanrobinson3902
@seanrobinson3902 6 жыл бұрын
6:02 why Abdul Jabar kept moving his head like that😂😂
@djwhiter2174
@djwhiter2174 5 жыл бұрын
When you don't know if her parents home
@Romamb
@Romamb 5 жыл бұрын
Never played ball b4 eh
@ianhenry6874
@ianhenry6874 6 жыл бұрын
I've always loved this position. When I think of defense in basketball, I think of these guys and how diverse they are.
@imbblilbb4008
@imbblilbb4008 5 жыл бұрын
12:32 tim duncan during 2010-2015 was “way” out of his prime? 2013 finals and then the 2014 championship were nothing i guess lol
@Abbad1579
@Abbad1579 4 жыл бұрын
Duncan was still good. But he was still out of his prime.
@ValensBellator
@ValensBellator 5 жыл бұрын
As a heat fan bosh quickly became one of my favorite players. It sucked hearing even from many fellow heat fans the grief that man received and the calls for his being traded. On those rare occasions where he couldn’t play (like a stretch of the second playoff run) the difference was night and day. That man made a huge impact, and he left everything on the court night after night. People mocked him for crying after losing the first finals but that’s just the player he was... he committed himself fully to every game and winning meant everything to him, which is probably why he was able to stomach so many sacrifices and the endless criticism from the analysts/fans that resulted. It’s sad that he had to retire due to dvt as he was playing very well as the primary star on the team late in his career. I’m glad he got his jersey retired!
@dionysise5008
@dionysise5008 6 жыл бұрын
2012 to 2018 is the no center era. Only Boogie was the exception
@ragindogge8118
@ragindogge8118 6 жыл бұрын
Please include Adams to the exceptions
@ecco2ks
@ecco2ks 5 жыл бұрын
Nikola Jokic
@jfrbroadcast
@jfrbroadcast 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid man. This guy puts allot of work in his videos man. Hit that big red button and that thumbs up 👍🏻
@arusanutayankumaran5872
@arusanutayankumaran5872 6 жыл бұрын
3:41 it looks like his went through the backboard😂😂🤣
@TheTariqibnziyad
@TheTariqibnziyad 6 жыл бұрын
Great video man; it will be great if you can do a series about every position
@michaelhaydenbell
@michaelhaydenbell 6 жыл бұрын
Good video bro, I appreciate it, but you gotta be a little more elaborate in your verbiage and not rely on overusing vague words like "dominance". I know everyone will just call me a hater, but only trying to help. Keep at it, will look forward to future content. EDIT: Again, just want to reiterate, I REALLY DID like this a lot, especially the second half.
@boxslam5795
@boxslam5795 4 жыл бұрын
Bro these vids are so well made
@dr.murder2690
@dr.murder2690 5 жыл бұрын
Kareem with his skyhook, Hakeem with the dreamshake and Bill Laimbeer with you know................. (silence) his flagrant fouls 😂😂😂😂
@eclipsesh6567
@eclipsesh6567 5 жыл бұрын
And wilt and his fade and snatch block
@calh1076
@calh1076 6 жыл бұрын
Easily my new favorite video. You did a really good job.
@jackkerns2674
@jackkerns2674 6 жыл бұрын
What about draymond green he was a power forward that got slid to the center position and they went 73-9 with an mvp steph and his stellar playmaking
@ishwill2
@ishwill2 6 жыл бұрын
Shows how weak the center position is
@jackkerns2674
@jackkerns2674 6 жыл бұрын
Ish Will no it just shows how it has changed as the video is talking about I mean most real contenders have a true passing/playmaking big man who can also bring the ball up the court that is how the center has changed
@jackkerns2674
@jackkerns2674 6 жыл бұрын
Jacob Delgado bro your point draymond got suspended game 5 for no reason and just that did not have their best series just chill don’t show up like they blew a 3-1 lead every time their 73-9 season
@adub92199
@adub92199 6 жыл бұрын
Jack Kerns he’s not lying🤷🏾‍♂️
@thegamerguy1771
@thegamerguy1771 6 жыл бұрын
Jack Kerns 2015 the cavs were injured so your point?
@kurtallen12
@kurtallen12 6 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this one LOW, nice work!
@daddyshark3415
@daddyshark3415 5 жыл бұрын
7:54 mans started rapping😂😂
@PrimeForm1
@PrimeForm1 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome channel, I appreciate all of your hard work!!!!
@explosioncake1331
@explosioncake1331 6 жыл бұрын
NBA in 2030 the Lineups are now 3 Guards and 2 Forwards
@tyreefreeman7450
@tyreefreeman7450 6 жыл бұрын
Nah just g's
@NealBones
@NealBones 6 жыл бұрын
NBA in the 2040's players are all 4 feet tall and shorter and goals are raised 2 feet. 3 pointers and boundaries are non existent.
@drehitemup9904
@drehitemup9904 6 жыл бұрын
4 people 6'7 or more then a 7 footer like jokic or embiid
@Yayan_596
@Yayan_596 6 жыл бұрын
Travelling rule flat out deleted
@jj6434
@jj6434 5 жыл бұрын
4 wings one center
@money_mana
@money_mana 6 жыл бұрын
Is there any videos for any other positions if not you should make a series for the positions because this was a big W 👍👍😁
@alecsanderhamilton9224
@alecsanderhamilton9224 5 жыл бұрын
1985-1999 Golden Age Big Men Kareem Moses Robert parish Ewing Shaq David Robinson Hakeem Olajuwon Mourning Mutombo Laimbeer Daugherty Karl Malone Shawn Kemp
@cannedpineapple2702
@cannedpineapple2702 4 жыл бұрын
This video was so well done thank you for making this. I learned a lot :)
@CadChamberlain
@CadChamberlain 6 жыл бұрын
Wilt is the greatest center ever and probably the NBA GOAT
@jj6434
@jj6434 5 жыл бұрын
Kareem and Hakeem come close
@soulessbeatz
@soulessbeatz 6 жыл бұрын
Lol the sponsor thing made my day and made me smile thanks low
@aaronhaywood3667
@aaronhaywood3667 6 жыл бұрын
I hope you and agent get vack to the podcasts
@zukamiku.5387
@zukamiku.5387 3 жыл бұрын
Jokic last season became the first center to win an mvp since shaq in 2000 😳
@Lyd1rino
@Lyd1rino 6 жыл бұрын
Morale of this video : Steph curry ruined the center position.
@TheSonictheplayer
@TheSonictheplayer 6 жыл бұрын
#ruinthegame
@tyreefreeman7450
@tyreefreeman7450 6 жыл бұрын
Wait how ?
@mypenisisincrediblytinybut6448
@mypenisisincrediblytinybut6448 6 жыл бұрын
What? How does one logically draw that conclusion from this video?
@ArkbladeIX
@ArkbladeIX 6 жыл бұрын
I dont think youre talking about the right video
@gateway833
@gateway833 6 жыл бұрын
My penis is incredibly tiny, but cuz GSW hate
@yrrosi
@yrrosi 6 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you mentioning Chris Bosh's sacrifice and redefining his game for the new age
@Chrispfro
@Chrispfro 6 жыл бұрын
2010-2014/5 really some of the least talented years in NBA history, look at the top players they were too old and on the decline or too young and haven't hit their prime yet
@collinchristopher5299
@collinchristopher5299 5 жыл бұрын
Christian Perales apart from Lebron wade bosh they were really fun to watch
@whochachi
@whochachi 6 жыл бұрын
Ay man, killed it with this one. Keep up the tremendous work 👍
@batmanandrobin250
@batmanandrobin250 6 жыл бұрын
Wilt>Shaq>All modern big men
@user-fl8ng9np7v
@user-fl8ng9np7v 5 жыл бұрын
W
@Shogun-a7s
@Shogun-a7s 6 жыл бұрын
Great review and history put together very well. You got real skillz man.
@LeHamzaa
@LeHamzaa 6 жыл бұрын
18 mins of LOW 💉💉💉💉
@wavemaker2077
@wavemaker2077 5 жыл бұрын
Great video here. Nicely researched. This must have taken a lot of work to produce this video. Two thumbs up to you!
@SubzerofromNY
@SubzerofromNY 6 жыл бұрын
Isnt Bob Pettit a power foward?
@noahduvall4962
@noahduvall4962 6 жыл бұрын
I think he played both
@logicaldude3611
@logicaldude3611 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of people say the old school center couldn't work in today's NBA, but if I'm not mistaken Embiid is pretty much exactly that kind of guy and he's an MVP-quality player. He takes a few threes a game and usually knocks down one, so it's not like he's bombing away from downtown to get his points. Some of the old school guys could probably shoot threes well enough if that had been something they were asked to do back then. In the 3-point age we have now, what's more valuable than a guy who attracts the attention of 2-3 defenders every time he gets the ball in the post? That seems pretty damn valuable to me. I wish we'd see a resurgence of the old school center in today's NBA. People act like those guys were slow, lumbering, unathletic, etc. but the best ones were absolute athletic freaks who could shoot, rebound, pass, and play defense, They'd be just fine in the league today.
@massdagod
@massdagod 6 жыл бұрын
It’s pronounced Brad “DUWAR-TY”
@jboca1973
@jboca1973 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting account bro thanks. The center position really needs to come back to glory.
@wanlitan7406
@wanlitan7406 6 жыл бұрын
Defensive Minded Centers: The 60s and 70s weren't devoid of them. Just look at Nate Thurmond for example, or maybe Bill Russell, or Wayne Embry. Space Centers: Jerry Lucas, Bob Pettit, Willis Reed, Walt Bellamy, these guys could all space the floor well. PFs that play Center: Bob Pettit, Jerry Lucas, Elvin Hayes etc. Passing Big Men: Walton, Russell, Wilt. Skilled Post Players: Too many to count. LOW, NBA CENTERS HAVEN'T VASTLY DIFFERENT. They've just not been as good. It's THAT simple. Every great contender has a solid center: PHI: Embiid. GSW: Green. BOS: Horford. DEN: Jokic. HOU: Capela TOR: Gasol MIL: Lopez, and sometimes Giannis can play it. Centers have always been, and will be the most impactful player on the court. Point blank period.
@DQ_Senpai
@DQ_Senpai 6 жыл бұрын
It just needed to evolve and improve along with the rest of the league
@wanlitan7406
@wanlitan7406 6 жыл бұрын
@@DQ_Senpai Evolve? Maybe a bit, but not improving.
@velmacrutch9480
@velmacrutch9480 6 жыл бұрын
Tan Wanli GSW: Cousins
@Crunchysopa52
@Crunchysopa52 6 жыл бұрын
Kareem and Unseld were also great passers as Centers
@user-fl8ng9np7v
@user-fl8ng9np7v 5 жыл бұрын
True
@VenomousStare
@VenomousStare 3 жыл бұрын
The best NBA vid I have ever seen! Well done!
@youthpastorpinson
@youthpastorpinson 6 жыл бұрын
You sir are a hard worker. Great vid!
@theodorevargas3958
@theodorevargas3958 5 жыл бұрын
Great video although Tim Duncan was a center during college and only shifted to the power forward position because they wanted to play both him and Robinson.
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