LEGO MILS ROADS - HAVE TO GO!

Hey Lego People!
OK, after much deliberation and staring and trying to come to terms and love it, something still was not sitting right in my heart in my city - and thats it - it was the roads - I HATE THEM! I love my MILS and all the possibilities they bring - but when it comes to these roads - I can't stand them! It's time for a change! Not sure what that will be yet - but anything will be better in my eyes, than what I have now!
Thanks for watching - hope you enjoyed, always - let me know what you think! and as always - check out my otther awesome LEGO worlds -
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[@u1tranatoryt323]

The reasons why mils is so common, is because 1. Very sturdy and strong base 2. Has lots of depth which allows lots of details like lower extensions of ground like ponds and swimming pools, underground basements etc. and 3. Personally I find mils plates fun to build.

[@wurzelbert84wucher5]

I never understood why everyone suddenly thought they have to do it in this specific way. Just do it as you please and make it as beautiful as possible.

[@LegoMomNdaughter]

I just made a huge base plate for the apocalypse. With a pool and basketball court. I didn't bother with the special dimensions of the normal MILS

[@radeadcool]

Mils were for the following: 1. The point of them was to hide lighting/wires 2. Connect the plates if moving around a lot 3. The older sets didnt connect and plates would fall off easy moving them 4. Finally make things "Realistic" with water/lakes If your not doing any of these then it seems its not for you and thats ok.

[@dgray3771]

Thing is buy a kid 2 of the city sets, the shopping street and the house and buy the kid 2 sets of the new road plates and the kid has infinite possibilities to combine everything. Look at the city center and the shopping street builds both are modular already. With each building being a seperate unit. Kids can do everything with the new system. While the old would be on 2/3 base plates and you had to buy multiple packs of road plates to give some length of road. Now everything is smaller but gives more space and possibilities. And honestly I don't give a damn about adult collectors in this regard. This new system is genius for little children. Perhaps they should add a set with a new curve piece. Easy to make for Lego. Then it's done.

[@howarthe1]

Yes! Narrower streets look more pedestrian friendly. Love it!❤

[@jeremygreen2883]

As someone who has been building for thirty plus years now, I appreciate your opinion but I have to respectfully disagree with most of what you have said about the new road pieces. I feel like they are incredibly versatile. Yes, the roads aren't pre-made and it takes some effort to work with them to make them the way that you want them, but... that's sort of the point of building with LEGO. The thing about old road plates is that they are still available on the secondary market... and you can use the old road plates with MILs buildings. Jang Bricks even did a pretty comprehensive video on how to incorporate both pretty cleanly.

[@timou9000]

Thanks for the great video. I completely agree that there is no need to have 32 x 32 roads. I started simply putting the new road plates on 16 *16 base plates. However I did want to be able to connect to my mils buildings with technic pins so I have changed to the quite rare but findable 18 * 16 base plates, this gives me 1 stud width each side of the new road plate to incorporate technic bricks and a curb between pavement and road.

[@ShaunBonJovi]

I'm one of the guys buying into the whole new system you have there. Mainly because it has been a dream to wire everything up to light up my city AND, with the extended sidewalks iv been adding parking spaces, bus stops, etc. I've been able to pack in and make areas looks far more dense and packed with lego then ever before

[@mybricksandme6152]

That's awesome! I definitely agree that with LEGO, the more packed and full it is, the better it looks! I want to light my city up too, but that's an entire new project that will definitely take some pre planning! 😊 thanks for watching - glad you enjoyed! Happy Building!

[@JohnnyBricks]

9:45 - "how do you make a curve? now, I want a curve. I don't want to have to have 90 degree turns everywhere in my city." I completely agree! The new road would be great if they somehow implemented curve sections too. It's fine for a lot of US style cities because they use a lot of grid layout. It's way more advanced to make your own custom curves as isn't so straight forward and the results aren't always the greatest.

[@jonstechchannel]

I did my mils differently. No sidewalk. The sidewalk on the Modular’s are enough. So I gained a lot of space by doing this

[@enviousbonzai9919]

Honestly agree those sidewalks ONLY work with builds that don't already have sidewalks lol

[@Raptorius]

Finally, someone with the same opinion as me! Since I'm European (Portuguese), I'm used to small sidewalks, so these new MILS roads don't make any sense to me. This final option, using just the modular buildings sidewalks look way more realistic to me! Thank you for the demonstration. I love the end result.😊

[@mybricksandme6152]

Thank you for the comment! It's very hard to have to give up so much space for things that don't really need it! A city functions just fine without 20000 studs worth of sidewalk!! 🤣🤣 😊

[@brickymcbrickerson9506]

I like it a lot!

[@blacktronpavel]

I opted to remain with Classic baseplates… Albeit modified.

[@crossover1015]

Here’s the problem. Modular Buildings weren’t built MILS style. The old road plates fitted perfectly with the Modulars and with these new plates, everyone is doing tutorials on putting a sheet of ply wood under the Modular, which is ugly. We need the old road base plates back PLEASE!

[@mybricksandme6152]

Yes! I agree. Not everyone wants to have their city converted to mils. And for some, it's just financially not doable! I mean - it's great for moving things around, but it had definitely made these roads a tough process if you dont want to just follow suit. 💯

[@crossover1015]

@@mybricksandme6152 well I don’t need the MILS, I already built some city stuff on regular plates. I have the Daily Bugle on the base plate it came with. I built Freddy FazBear’s Pizza on four 48x48 base plates and putting it together was stressful with already putting stickers on the walls. I hate stickers, I don’t understand why toddlers like them so much. And I’m in the process of building a LEGO Batcave on 18 blue plates. The builds look great without MILS, so I don’t mind the elbow-grease of moving stuff at all. The only thing the new roads can actually be of use for is bridges and overpasses. Give us the old plates back, LEGO! WHYYYYYYY!!??

[@mybricksandme6152]

Hahaha I am 💯💯 with you! I DO though, as you have probably seen, have all my buildings (most) on mils, so the old road plates needed some creativity. And having so many of them built up, I definitely wanted to try to use them before I spent a small fortune on new roads. My final decision on what im actually doing with my roads will be out in a video within a week. I'm actually working on them as we speak! So I hope you check that out! Also - do you have anything on your batcave process on your channel? (I checked and didnt see anything). Thanks again!

[@crossover1015]

@@mybricksandme6152 I have zero progress of anything on my channel. I’m still trying to get started. I got big storytelling plans I just need to finish the script I’m trying to finish. Batcave progress I made a 3-fold wall for the arsenal. I’m howling to combine elements from all the Batcave sets (minus the 1966 one that will be for display only once I get my hands on it.) so far I just have the 2012 and 2019 caves. At first I was gonna do it on nine blue plates and four 48x48’s but I decided I want the whole cave to be above water for all the water based vehicles.

[@Alverant]

IMHO the roads seem too narrow. The lanes are 8 studs wide and there are many vehicles that are 8 studs wide plus some kibble on the sides. I wonder how well a road that's three lanes (one in each direction and a center lane) 10 studs wide and a 1-stud yellow divider between them. That way it fits the 32 stud wide baseplate. The only issue I see is connecting it to MILS since there doesn't seem to be room for the technic pin. My city isn't big enough for roads yet so I'm still thinking about it. But your half-plate roads look good. You just have to be extra careful in planning the city. I suggest making some 8x16 filler pieces of parks or a parking space or something interesting for when you need it. Alternatively, having just got the Lego Ideas Blacksmith set, buying a bunch of 16x16 plants and converting those into a mini-MILS system. If you break the units down to 16x16 instead of 32x32 you have more options and options are good.

[@scottishdude9682]

I agree 100%. Cannot stand those roads.

[@clutchmorecity]

I haven't seen this idea of make a type of Mills plate with old road plate and add some bricks and some plates and some tiles.

[@purplecat7457]

I don't have a city, but I love how much space this gains. And I like the look of it. Well done! It's fairly easy to add a smaller sidewalk where you want, plus you can add scenery there, if you want to. Progress!

[@mybricksandme6152]

Yes! So much amazing space and I'm super excited about that! Its definitely gonna take some time and a lot of trial and error I'm thinking to get it right - but I know in the end I'll be super happy with it, rather than just satisfied 😉😊

[@anthonyhong616]

Thank you for sharing your experience! I totally agree with your point, doing the MILS road just take too much space, and it's not cost effective, and what we got is some oversized sidewalks lol

[@mybricksandme6152]

For real!!! I feel like I found a great solution. I'll be posting a video on new "roads" this week! Stay tuned! Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed!😊

[@brianreip411]

I love your description! I recently got back into also full force about 8 months ago , the international space station did it for me ! Now there's legos all over my house. It took off just as I left off as a kid except now I have my own money 😂

[@mybricksandme6152]

Haha! Welcome back to the wonderful world of LEGO! Sounds like ur having a great time! Thanks for watching - so glad you enjoyed 😊

[@rockies1790]

You can use 20482 to "attache" the old road plate on top of a 32x32 baseplate ! The pin fit under the road plates (hole). There you go, you can create mils plate with old road plates on top 😉

[@mybricksandme6152]

OMG! YOU WIN LEGO! seriously - this is the best tip! Gonna take a lot to change them all back over - but again OMG!! Thank you- I am thinking this will be perfect!

[@rockies1790]

@@mybricksandme6152 no problem. Glad to help 😉

[@pawog04youtube3]

maybe its just me but: this mils road seems to represent the North American Style of road, aka big road with gray sidewalk. Euro roads are smaller than this sometimes. Over all I feel one should just make custom roads, why not? its lego!

[@msclrhd]

I also don't like the 32x32 road mils design with the new plates and modulars for the same reasons. The additional sidewalk feels too wide when the modulars already have their own sidewalks. I'm still considering if I want to adopt the mils system, but have been thinking of using 16x32 plates for the roads (with maybe 32x32 for intersections and T junctions). With the T junction, I would probably place the road at the edge. Alternatively, I would have it so you could attach the roads in the middle, not just at the ends, so you could join the roads as needed.

[@DrMcBrick]

I agree! I “hate” MILS. Like you I don’t hate hate them really or those that use them. They offer some cool abilities, however, I find the expense of using them in a very large city (such as I used to have) is not justified and you can figure out other creative ways to do the same things with just baseplates and selective layering, and “breaking” the baseplates into manageable “chunks” so that you can move and disconnect them. I think brick or tile made roads look nicer and more smooth than the new road plates. Now if one is willing to use cheap off-brand bricks and baseplates for their MILS then it gets much more economical. But I’d rather sink my money into sets and bricks/plates and tiles that will be used and seen. Again, I think they are great but, it’s all about one’s use case and wallet and pace and priorities. To MILS or not? It’s really just up to the person because after all, isn’t LEGO about just having fun building in however one wants to build. 😀 Good video.

[@cosmo9362]

Lol, love your enthusiasm 😂 Why would Lego come out with a new “system” that is not complete?? Curves being an important part of a road “system”, and integrating train tracks 🙄 I’m still trying to figure out my roads so I’m looking forward to see what you come up with. Thanks

[@ryangann799]

Just found you. Think you are 100% right about the roads could not agree more. I’m still using old system because the new system seems to require so many more parts. Kind of comes down to economics for me. Plus no curves. I would however do something like what you’re working into that if I did.. anyway instant subscribe because I like your video and looking forward to more!

[@mybricksandme6152]

Awesome! Welcome and Glad to have you as part of the Bricks and Me family! Glad you agree! I think I have figured out the solution, at least a good start! Stay tuned! 👍🏻😊

[@Elke_KB]

I never had any of the old road plates so I bought a box of the new ones when they were on sale. I think it looks better smaller, especially when there is already a sidewalk in front of the modulars. I think the idea Lego had was that you could add the green plates on the side and connect stuff, just as you said. Just remember before you rip it all apart to make sure your cars fit on the road, you may need to widen them an extra stud. Also, are you going to put traffic lights or road signs? Make sure you have a place to put them.

[@mybricksandme6152]

Yes! Exactly - I think there is so much that can be done. I have found a couple roads that I like.. I might also try brick building a couple roads too. But it's gonna be a slow process for sure because I'm definitely going to make sure I love what I end up with! 😊 and yup - I have street lights, and traffic lights all ready to go - just need to place them. Still working on street name signs!! 👍🏻

[@TheLegoStud]

I’m just starting a city so only have the new road plates. I think it looks better with the smaller roads and not the full baseplate worth.

[@mybricksandme6152]

Awesome! I'll be very interested to see how you work them in your city! But I agree... maybe some sidewalk and some green space for trees and flowers and such. There are a lot of options, but definitely going to go on the smaller end! Thanks!

[@Gingnirmon]

I miss the old road plates.

[@mybricksandme6152]

Honestly, me too

[@nihili4196]

Honestly I was always wondering why Mils have so much sidewalk. That's main reason why I hate baseplates (and the fact that baseplates as they are are very restrictive of a piece)

[@andrewbattista1813]

Hahahaha you are so passionate in your video. I agree with saving 16 studs. I would probably only use full size roads for the main road and maybe have train track along side of it.

[@mybricksandme6152]

Yes!!! I tend to get very excitable! 16 studs is a lot of room! So I definitely need to find a better use for em, one way or another, I love the train track idea! 👍🏻😊

[@winterrain1947]

I agree. I do appreciate what they did, and I think they did a good job of it. I know there are builders who totally love that entire new system, but I do not. I'm a hobby builder, not a collector or a lego city builder with a whole room full of legos. I don't want to have to invest all my time and money into building a road. I'd rather make buildings. I just want to put a couple of road base plates down next to a green or tan baseplate and start making stuff. I don't want to configure the road, and I notice the road is thicker than a regular base plate, so I'd have to switch over how I make stuff. I don't want to do that! I think Lego should keep both options available since people have different preferences.

[@carlaspinwall4247]

Have you tried strikly brik stackable Road plates in darl blueish grey. Slap them onto a baseplate with technic connections and bricks in between and its a cheap road but with tiles there will be no step between road and path but o well. Yellow markings though!

[@tdr240sx]

I agree, thank you for sharing!

[@brickler2248]

I like the setup without the sidewalks better because i love a very dense city. Also i don't think you need the white stripes on the side

[@jerryterwase9027]

Thanks for speaking the mind of me and almost every Lego fan I know. I can list up to ten reasons why the new Lego road plates don't work.

[@mybricksandme6152]

Yes!!! I know I have a lot of agreement on this whole issue! Glad you enjoyed- thanks for watching!

[@tomweiss9600]

Laughing throughout your whole video here. I'm starting a city myself and this is great info to help me get started. Thanks!

[@mybricksandme6152]

Hey Tom! Thanks so much! I'm glad I could bring a laugh to your day! LEGO cities are definitely full of decisions and crazy trial and error! Good luck with yours! Hope you come back again! Have a great day!

[@tomweiss9600]

@@mybricksandme6152 I built a few of the 32x32 MILs roads and don't like the look so couldn't stop laughing. Think I will try the slimmer versions along with you and see how it goes...

[@mybricksandme6152]

@@tomweiss9600 awesome! I will be curious to see how you like what you come up with! :)

[@dansmith8872]

boy ,i am glad i build figure,instead of cities.cents i never build a city all i can say is go whit your gut feeling what i have seen you do is alway cool.have faith in yourself it might take time but you know you will get it just the way you want it.take care

[@mybricksandme6152]

Thank you so much! Yes - it will take time but I need to love it! And I will 😊

[@dansmith8872]

@@mybricksandme6152 good

[@philmorton4590]

You make alot a great points, but is there any way to use the old roads? And how do you get a curved road?

[@mybricksandme6152]

Hey Phil! Thanks for watching! Yup. I figured out a way to use them basically I built the sidewalks up to be the height of the mils while the roads stayed the same. With the curved roads though, it's a little tricky, a lot of triangular plates get used to make the curve. If you check out the next video I believe you can see what I came up with! Have a great day! 😊

[@brixznovids1280]

I like to put my train tracks in my roads and it looks stunning! This wouldn't be possible with my old road plates

[@cykrypt1049]

i mean, if you want to limit yourself then sure. to me, i love the freedom that MILS grants you cant have depth without mils, you cant have lakes, rivers, sidewalks, gutters, bike lanes, etc. MILS grants the ability to give your city REAL detail.

[@richardcranium9663]

I used them to make an elevated Highway. You could never do that with the old plates.

[@mybricksandme6152]

Yes, they do have some great possibities, and I love that the piece is in other sets in different colors! Just want them to look more asetically pleasing 😊 and I think I have it all figured out!! Stay tuned!

[@bodegazilla978]

I think you might be on to something here with the roads, it may be that they need a different sort of size than the standard 16/32/48 to make it all look correct... the double sidewalk is too much.

[@mybricksandme6152]

Yes exactly. Or something needs to be in that sidewalk to break it up!

[@bodegazilla978]

@@mybricksandme6152 Late response, but as I've been working with MILS plates, I think, perhaps, you might want to reconsider Apocalypseburg on MILS... it would really give you a lot of terrain opportunities, like craters and crags and all sorts of texture in that regard. Being able to bury a car half-way down, perhaps even a sandworm coming out to eat things?

[@mybricksandme6152]

@@bodegazilla978 indo afree.. and the more I look at it and work on it, there I consider it. I feel that my Apocalypseburg area will be one of those areas that will be ever changing and developing. So never say never! And thank you so much - I love the idea of the car and sandworm I never would have thought of!

[@BIGBLOCK455]

The MILS roads never look correct unless they are brick built. Even the original MILS road designs from back in 2015 look off when they used plates for the road section way back before these new plates were created. The only issue with brick built roads is the cost but nothing is cheap with Lego so it doesn't bother me.

[@juneandrews2130]

very interesting info

[@tillywallenstein]

I have never been a fan of MILS because the amount of pieces you need for them hurts me. It is such a waste of material that I could use otherwise. They have advantages, no doubt. I like the look of your new solution better. It looks more realistic and more lively without the large sidewalks. You could use the space you gain for backyard scenery.

[@mybricksandme6152]

Yes Tilly - definitely - there is no need for that much sidewalk - I am definitely hoping to make them not so part intensive and more decorative! :) Thanks for your encouragement!

[@finatra8410]

You sound like a friend I know.

[@LittleBinsandBricks]

There’s a lot of ways you can do it for sure but not curves! I guess it depends on the car issue too. I like my new smaller roads without all the sidewalk too. How about your cars?

[@mybricksandme6152]

Yes, I have sooo many masonry bricks, that I am going to see about brick building a couple here and there to give myself a little more leeway on things as well, not for every road, but just here and there I think would look good.. and yes - cars are definitely a factor - and mechs, all that... but remember, the actual new "road" is not any smaller line to line than the old ones, they just eliminated the sidewalk studs on the sides. - i think with a lot of trial and error, and a lot of decoration - I will find the perfect fit :)

[@BrickFun201]

I like the road plates if used without extra sidewalk, otherwise not so much. I don't have a city so take this with a huge grain of salt

[@mybricksandme6152]

It's definitely a delicate balance. Thanks for the input! 😊

[@oscarvanwalstijn6902]

Just use old road baseplates. Problem solved 😁😁

[@originaljk555]

You can make MILS roads using the old road baseplates. Check out Darrel on Bevins Bricks. He has videos on how to make them.

[@mybricksandme6152]

Thanks for the tip! I'll check it out! I've watched some of his videos! He has an amazing city for sure!

[@cozmocandy1688]

Really you hate them?! I am still using the regular road plates. I know I will have to convert to the new ones at some point.

[@mybricksandme6152]

I do - they just seem super plain and blocky - they definitely need more decoration or something to make them a little more "interesting" So before you change over, definitely do a lot of research into what you like! I am also ideally trying to make them not so part intensive! :)

[@kellyanngould6600]

I’m with you all the way maybe a bit more as I don’t care for mils at all, I know you’ll make it work and it will look great, great video as always Gina

[@mybricksandme6152]

Thanks Kellyann! The MILS are great for moving the modulars around and all that good stuff for sure, but for some things, I'm just starting to see that there are better ways! 😀 as always- thanks for the support 👍🏻😉

[@jahweh]

Kids; this is why you drink and record your yt vids.. Views!

[@j.walker6845]

I think taking away the extra sidewalks is a fine solution, but I don't like the road plate system in general because of all the rectangles from the line markings you don't use on the road look really strange.

[@PlanetTrendy]

Fully agree. Maybe it's because the mini-city I'm doing for my daughter is only 2x6 buildplates, but the idea of dedicating a full 32 studs of width for a road seemed crazy to me, especially when the modulars already have pavement areas on them (not that I can fit modulars in our set up, we're living that Creator 3-in-1 life)

[@epicproportionsmediaproduc6697]

The purpose is not to save space. The purpose, OBVIOUSLY, is to sell more LEGO. If you don’t see it as the cash grab that it is, sorry for you. If you don’t like it, don’t use them. It’s really not that complicated. Nobody is forcing these on you. There are other options.

[@Elke_KB]

just wanted to say "I'm First"

[@mybricksandme6152]

Yay!!! 🤣🥳🥳