LEGO Star Wars 501st Battle Pack COMPARISON! (75280 vs 75345 | 2020 vs 2023)

Which LEGO Star Wars 501st Clone Trooper Battle Pack is better? 75280 501st Legion Clone Troopers OR 75345 501st Clone Troopers Battle Pack? One set took advantage of fans that love LEGO Star Wars by doubling the price of a Battle Pack and the other has unfinished feeling Clone Troopers.
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[@fritz404]

2020 is all around better but I appreciate that we get a "normal" priced clone battlepack in 2023 instead of a $40 tank

[@LilCasher555Official]

That $40 tank is never going on sale either your best bet is waiting till Black Friday of 2023 but even then it isn't guaranteed you're basically paying 40 no matter what this set will be on sale for $16.99 and the other was on sale for $23.99

[@crazydog1750]

$15 would've been better.

[@CustomBricks66]

Yea just there absolutely nothing wrong about the 2020 clone there literally perfect

[@bumbee6198]

Yeah the 2020 one is perfect but the new one is still good for the specialist clones

[@Maddenhawk]

@@LilCasher555Official they were on sale at a target on an M&R vlog

[@averagebalkaner1317]

The good thing about not having a blue stripe on the binoculars is that you can use them on any clone trooper, I have a feeling that people will buy a bunch of them for those binocular pieces

[@MandRproductions]

That’s the upside, yeah. On the other side of things, LEGO could just (and would ideally) produce different print colors.

[@thatclonetrooper]

true, plus you can always just sharpie a stripe on or something

[@ZePizzaKnight]

@@thatclonetrooper trust me little bro, do not sharpie anything. You will regret it in the future.

[@thatclonetrooper]

@@ZePizzaKnight true, but at least there are ways to take off the sharpie. Of course, there's always other options to getting the stripe on there too

[@danielmcbride6413]

Well that’s true, but I think the best way to do it would be to just print a black stripe. Every legion has used them with a black stripe at some point. Outside battlefront, I don’t recall seeing legion specific markings on them. The important thing is there should be some printing there, because these ones look like they’re missing the lens, since it wasn’t printed on.

[@winshepler5927]

I think that if the clones in the set were swapped, they would both be perfect. Getting three regular troopers plus a jet for $20 would be awesome. And a $30 specialty set would be cool as well.

[@malaching8143]

yeah, everybody in the entire universe agrees with you! however, LEGO likes profit, they knew we would still buy the huge. amount of the 2020 501st battle pack...

[@manuxx3543]

Or have one more plain with the specialist It's gonna be good tho, 30e 2020 battlepack went down to 19e very often So that 20e battlepack will go down to 12e and its gonna be free for the taking, awsome for that price

[@KerioFive]

That's Lego though

[@LegoFireball501]

That is an AMAZING IDEA!!!! Maybe it can be done for the 212th?

[@sparkndark]

I am just happy to get another one, it feels like a flood gate has opened up once more on the army building sets. Hopefully we get more sets like this, especially if they are still based on the battlefront games. Maybe a clone commander or even a commando droid battle pack.

[@GassedFEIN]

Definitely the snow trooper battle pack and the this battle pack have been a step in the right direction and the best since the old clone wars battle packs the era of only getting 2 of the same character and an officer and something else with a a bad build sucked the only battle pack from that era that was perfect was the rebels storm trooper battle pack imo the best battle pack of all time 4 of the same trooper and a solid build for the transport but god battle packs are Turing around

[@sprucemoose6311]

I hope they remake the 2007 droid and clone battlepacks.

[@brickcollection1]

I love how Lego said that the new instructions were more coherent but the old instructions almost always matched the box art which I think is much more coherent.

[@malaching8143]

yeah trust me literally nobody likes the new instructions it's just LEGO trying to save on ink because they are "definitely such a poor billion dollar company"! they will probably do the same with box art eventually, but when they do, we need to buy zero of those first sets to do that just to show that we do put our foot down, and force them to bring back box art.

[@brickcollection1]

@@malaching8143 Exactly.

[@kaleboogahboogah624]

Facts they must bring back the old style of instructions

[@WiZard_3829]

​@@malaching8143But what if that first set would be a plain P2 clone trooper battle pack? 💀

[@jimandham]

4:46 I always wanna address this, getting two battle droids still doesn't help, I think they need a droid battle pack or a carrier cause rn droid armies are really hard to build and clones just out number them which isn't fun, we need more droid sets

[@mark9960]

Same I need some super battledroids for my Droid army I swear those dudes just disappeared.

[@JamesBricks06]

Yeah we need more types of droids like droid tri fighters, super battle droids and in general a few more separatist sets

[@xSoulhunterDKx]

You can always moc your own versions, but yes I agree. The 501 legion pick was also very nice to do this kind of rebricking. I don’t think the cannon from the specialist pack will be that nice for that I think

[@bumponalog5001]

There's so many third party droids available for cheap that are identical copies.

[@xSoulhunterDKx]

@@bumponalog5001 this is true, but not everyone wants them for obvious reasons. I did buy a couple (dozens). Super battle droids can also different to the Lego ones. The back of each droid from Lego have 'holes' so you can attach stuff to, but the third party ones usually can’t do that which does limit their use

[@lsandjs9793]

I’m still not over battlepacks being 20 dollars when I used to get them for 10-12 dollars, therefore the fact that a 20 dollar set would rather print a waist cape or shoulder cloth than give us one is atrocious. Especially since those 12 dollar ones included them, it baffles me costs are cut. Even going back to the bad batch shuttle the waist capes were printed and that was 100 dollars… I don’t see myself buying a lot of the new ones tbh

[@tanner4574]

Inflation sadly

[@ihateracin]

Yes because the plastic shoulder armor and waist capes the original $12 sets included were so well done… in plastic that wouldn’t allow for any posing at all. The cloth ones being anything but a solid color wouldn’t happen, and as a result this ends with a print. Lego produces plastic waste in the name of profit, do you really think they give a hoot?

[@nrs10001]

Individually the problems aren't that big a deal, but then you put them all together. Insane prices, printed waistcapes, awful looking "accessory holes", ugly looking instruction manuals, decrease in quality control including misprintings, inaccuracies with characters that could easily be fixed, and maybe this is just my opinion but some of the designs of the new sets like the new red gunship just look ugly. Yeah it's gonna be awhile before I buy anything new either.

[@pysz6748]

It wasn’t that long ago when we couldn’t even imagine lego would make a 501st battlepack. Now we have two. Minor in accuracies stop these from being perfect but these have to be some of the best clone army builders.

[@danielwalessa905]

Gotta say, I loved the 2020 version, but am also excited to buy prob 1-2 of these. Just having variety in an army is cool, and while Lego definitely could have been more accurate, still love getting new torsos for clones!

[@bobaoriley1912]

As mid 2022 started rolling around, I got more and more. The thing is, with this one, I’ll definitely only just get 2 on initial release, just for 3/4 of the minifigures.

[@GingeryGinger]

I honestly love the juxtaposition though. Star Wars fans will say they like clones more than droids or storm troopers because of their individuality, yet prefer having only one type of clone class (assault) over having multiple (officer, specialist, heavy).

[@koreoprezzii]

@@GingeryGinger I don't think it's that, I think mainly it's the figures and how Lego couldve done so much better with them, and also the price increase of battlepacks doesn't help also. That's my opinion and reason to not buy as much as I would've liked to

[@danielwalessa905]

@@GingeryGinger Prob just bc they enjoy that the clones are human compared to droids. Nothing wrong with only wanting reg clones, but I agree with u that the variety is better.

[@itouch4mac]

I personally find the original 501st Battle Pack to have the superior builds. Both in playability and display. I just find the spring-loaded cannon on the 2023 501st to be a bit lack luster. Sure the price is cheaper but I would’ve been fine paying $25 for a more fleshed out cannon & possibly better printing on the figs. Overall though, I do enjoy these quite a lot. Thanks MandR for another great review! 🖤🙏🏻

[@crazydog1750]

I was surprised to hear him say that the build for 2023 was better too. While the AT-RT is way too big, and so is the BARC speeder, the value for what you're getting is just so stellar and the builds are really, really good from a play perspective and they at least still look pretty decent from a display perspective.

[@ChillGuy100]

The new set is an honest 8.5 out of 10. Yeah it’s not perfect BUT it is still really cool and goes very well with all the 501st troopers from the OG set. Hopefully for the next battle pack we get either shock troopers, 327th troopers (we now have the helmet piece for Commander Bly), or a 212th battle pack.

[@fritz404]

I like the 501st specialist but I agree with you that the next clone battlepack should be the 21st Nova corps aka the Galactic Marines

[@Legojanimations1718]

what I think we need is more droids, there hasn't been a droid battle pack in ages

[@xSoulhunterDKx]

Indeed. I would also appreciate newer b1 models. They are way too simple sometimes and restricted in movement (all droids)

[@FrenchByzantium]

@@xSoulhunterDKx So true, some droids like the commandos would highly benefit from any change.

[@BrickReporter]

This is the video we were all waiting for 😄

[@GMDreviews]

Love what you post Ryan great comparisons!

[@chalash7]

I agree

[@MrMorgan316]

The specialist clone is easily my favorite here. Those macro binoculars look sick!

[@taylorhauser3347]

the Specialist looks great. Wish the other three matched it

[@Drnsht111]

I love the first pack. The second is nice too but the 2020 is still the best.

[@manupasta]

in the UK these battle packs usually go on sale for £13, so I am pretty happy with this new set

[@callumpears1523]

Yeah but that might just be because the Snowtrooper one wasn't popular (especially with no backpacks or kamas)

[@DonimicChickens]

Very good video - Love these man keep it going.

[@brickcollection1]

I personally agree the old one is just a lot better but on the other hand the other one is amazing too. Also the original could be bought on sale for around $24 on sale while the new one I doubt will go below $18.

[@captainswagger2838]

I think it’ll be likely they’ll bump the new pack down to 15 or 16

[@brickcollection1]

@@captainswagger2838 Yeah, you might be right.

[@behindthebricksbtb]

I bought one of the 2020 Battle packs around Christmas time 2020, and at the time, i didn't know all the demand that there had been for one. I was very happy with it. I had never really bought much Star Wars LEGO sets because i had always been more into Marvel. I was glad to get my first 501st troopers and my first battle droids. but now, in 2023, I am starting to get into Star Wars way more, and I am buying 2 of the new 501st battle packs. I am a young teen, (too young for a job), so I've never really had that much money. I am glad that they are releasing a standard battle pack because its better for the younger LEGO fans. I love that you get more diversity of the clones in the new battle pack, but i also loved getting the jet trooper and multiple regular troopers.

[@grindingbricks]

Great video! I think that the new battle pack is to be bought in 1 for 2 ratio with the previous set, that's likely what i'll be doing, i'll get 5 of those and be happy with it. By the way, sorry if i might have sounded harsh yesterday in your livestream asking to answer my superchat, i had just came in and didn't realise there was a "waiting list" on the superchat lol. Anyway, i've just became a member of your channel after 2 years of watching pretty much all your content and can't wait to receive that Mando foil packs order. Keep up the good work mate!

[@RandoMan07]

I honestly don't mind having an empty hole and think it's weird people are complaining now but not with Mando helmets or phase 1 clone helmets. I like the fact that if you want, you can put anything on your clone helmets if it'll fit. I think it'd be a shame if a phase 2 rex came with just 1 hole because then you can't put the macrobinoculors on him.

[@Fridgemasters]

i think the one main gripe people is that the phase 2 clone helmet has two bumps (including the hole) on the side of its head while if you look at the mandalorian/phase 1 helmet, it uses the bump AS the hole, instead of putting the hole above the bump. I personally don’t really care, but i can understand why people would be disappointed

[@malaching8143]

yeah. still wondering why in the entire universe they gave mando helmet holes...

[@juanmcshrek9215]

@@malaching8143I think it’s because he uses the same helmet piece as boba fett and boba has the rangefinder thing on his helmet

[@callumpears1523]

The issue is that they're in the wrong place. On the Mando and P1 helmets, the holes are in the 'ear' part of the helmet and aren't too noticeable. On these new P2 helmets, the holes are directly above where they should be and stick out too much.

[@omarbaba9892]

It’s because they had the holes in the right places and looked way less stupid when with the phase 2 they just added an extra set of bumps for the holes along with the bumps for where the holes are supposed to be just to get out of making new attachments

[@UncannyEXP]

One is a special set made for the fans, and the other is made within the current confines of what a battle pack is. It's all up to personal preference (and what's more readily available). Speaking of which, I'll need to grab a few more of the original 501st battle packs before they're gone.

[@zookboy5714]

i know battle packs are generally lacking on the price per piece front, but I do wish that the new pack would include another small build to bring the piece count closer to 150-160. Maybe just a small rock barrier (like the snowtrooper battle pack), or a small mounted cannon

[@redeye5440]

As an Australian who has never seen a 2020 501st BP in stock on store shelves EVER, I’m stuck with my one copy of that one, but I did get my hands on two of the magazine foil packs that had a 501st clone. I’ll definitely get one of the new one, and potentially a second, as even though the army will be a bit unbalanced, the foil packs certainly help.

[@ibutter876]

i think its a good army builder. having maybe 30 specialists and 60 heavys is good its really just the officers that you don't really need. also I like the holes because of customizability they just should've have been in a better place.

[@DarthCoco]

From UK, I would definitely agree about the 2020 501st battle pack. In it's earlier days/period, they were selling out everywhere but as time went by, more were being stocked, and soon heavier discounts were coming about. I got 6 unopened all for 30% - 40%, still sitting in my attic, and sure hope to see decent reductions on the 2023 one, like I have seen the hoth battlepack being reduced 25% - 30% off now and then.

[@noahjohnson4830]

Definitely going to be picking up one or two of these.

[@Madobe-Nanami]

5:15 last vid i made a comment about how id probably only buy 2 of the new battlepack because i have 10 of the original. Now i feel called out Lol. keep up the good work ryan

[@BMRPRODZ]

The ultimate comparison

[@BlaiseTM]

Love em both, love that we've gotten em both! Solid sets & its what fans wanted!

[@Triscoollboy]

They are both amazing

[@PlatypusPizza19]

When can we expect to see you show off your clone army because I think we all want to see it

[@puffylacike]

Good review but mainly great job with the camera focus.

[@DeadBoyGames]

I love the 2020 501st battle pack and can’t wait to see the 501st battle pack come in 2023

[@nihili4196]

I absolutely count both sets as being in wrong size. But it's easier to undersize oversized build, than to upsize undersized one. Also, armybuilding is amazing with those. Technically usually squads are broken into 9 people: one commander, five regular infantry man and three specialists. Here we've got ratio slightly changed, but both sets are pretty much perfect to make nice small squad.

[@skullthekiid]

The only real complaints i have for the 2023 battle pack, is the clone helmet holes, and the laziness on the leg prints/molding. Other than that, i think its pretty solid tbh but the 2020 one is the goat👌

[@mouffis69]

The video i was expecting since the new 501st battlepack got revealed

[@LSB44446]

Love the variety in the new one. They're all new figures as well

[@ilyavekselman9341]

I'd love to see a video of "what can be built from these two sets"!

[@haydenmillermusic255]

I instantly knew which one you would rank better even before the video began 😂

[@zen_-dt6ys]

bro watching him diss his own child was crazy

[@pinkdolphin7451]

I hope this binocular piece will open the door for a new at ot with Bly, Ayla secura and the star corps

[@armoredcalvary1273]

customization, cause if you mix enough you can get something like an arc trooper using jetpack trooper helmet, the many blue torsos and using the old fabric tarps from the 2020 grievous fighter etc

[@cjopticon2378]

Question: is there much of a difference between the 2020 trooper helmet and the 2023 trooper helmet, besides the holes on the sides of the 2023 ones??? I do want to have regular 501st + 332nd Troopers, but im debating on if its worth it to upgrade the helmets to the holed ones from getting as loose buys at the end of the day.

[@adamcarman5330]

Despite some missing details that would have taken the accuracy to a new level, I still like the look of the figures. The prints on the helmets managed to actually become more accurate than previous versions, so they still fit well as specialty troops in the 501st army. I hope this era is looked back on as the “growing pains” era…ideally lego fixes the helmet hole/print problems and this can be chalked up to a series of sets where they tried to be innovative but just didn’t execute well-overall making good sets that just needed a more careful eye before being released

[@chrisstansberry4394]

In this video I like the 501st troopers in the background and well done, my favorite set.

[@captainkyperplayz1162]

Since these are based on the classes from Battlefront 2, it would be nostalgic and awesome to have a battle pack of each class from the OG 2005 Battlefront 2

[@craftyowl5265]

I can't wait to make my own custom waist capes for this set.

[@mivvy3182]

It’s sad that stores like Clone Army Customs are able to make their own helmets, prints, and accessories that are 100% more accurate than Lego.

[@omarbaba9892]

To be fair Lego does have 100 more things to count when making their thing but you’re right a lot of their stuff is shit

[@aeway_]

tbh i'll probably just buy one as I've got four normal 501st battlepacks, but it's still great that Lego is continuing production of the p2 clones. Even though they aren't optimal

[@lechapeau4851]

Is the black gun carried by the 501st heavies supposed to be a DC-17 commando carbine ? Or a DC-15 carbine ?

[@Potato_exe]

"Army Buildability" is a great phrase

[@IsaiahBuildStuff]

1:27 If you want to get all the figures in focus, you can increase the F/ stop.

[@Idiottyrant]

These pair so well! I like all the clones reminds me of the classes in battlefront 2!

[@McFrozenNuggets]

0:04 "This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them."

[@ElDisable]

ask MandR: if you could choose battlepacks out of a droid battle pack, a rebel trooper battle pack or an imperial stormtrooper battlepack, which would you pick? and separate from that, if you could choose any clone legion for the next "battlepack" type set (e.g. republic fighter tank or original 501st troopers set) which clone legion would you pick?

[@Tbug20]

I'm not an army builder and have limited space, so I only have one of the 2020 battlepack. With that in mind, this new one is really appealing to me and I'll probably pick one up to add to my 2020 one.

[@captainkyperplayz1162]

I would definitely army build but I'm a broke college student so I can only justify one of each

[@xkay-six1845]

AskMandR: do you think there’s the possibility of getting a Cody in Grey as seen in the Bad Batch S2 trailers? They’ve recoloured his new mold into blue to fit this so I think it could be possible depending on what kind of scenes he’s in

[@66ogrAdorL]

I personally haven’t collected Lego in years as my dad told me I was getting to old for Lego (this was when I was 10 Lego justice!) and I love battlefront 2 so I personally price wise am getting the 2023 battle pack.

[@benjaminhern2709]

You could use the macro binoculars and helmet from the new specialist troopers to create troopers for an umbra moc

[@craigslegocustoms]

You should do the 501st ATRT too

[@lbricks7631]

Both sets will still make Lego millions.

[@DCLXVIDS]

I think a problem is Lego changed printing methods or machine and the new machine's nozzle can't get into narrow corners as well as the old machines could or something. This was always a problem with printing feet but now with the new helmets as well so it seems.

[@battalionbricks]

I changed the regular clones white arms to blue so I may have to do the same with these as well

[@turkeyisyourbestfriend]

I feel that an easy way to fix the officer having a hole on the helmet is to add a flashlight piece. It is an older piece they don’t seem to produce anymore and it wouldn’t look as good since they didn’t make a blue one; though I still feel that it is a simple upgrade to make the figure look better and get rid of the hole

[@Slambamma_]

question, if you were to decal what style would you decal? like 2020, RP2 or AP2

[@Mettaton...]

How did you get ahold of the new set? Did it already release?

[@Merlin56744]

Intro is a 10/10!

[@viperson9818]

On a side note the og 501st was released before inflated prices, if it was released now it would probably hover around $35 retail. But since LEGO didn't increased prices for sets retiring this year the 2020 is a amazing deal. While the 2023 is affected by the inflated prices. But yeah anyways 2023 clones were close to perfection and 2020 is great all around.

[@brickswithbecks7567]

Why does it feel like no one cared about the dual molded legs until grandpa customs made them

[@gleamingcolt]

I only have one of the 2020 version, but I’m planning on stocking up at least 3 more to turn the speeders into a troop transport

[@beefcake___4188]

Hey mandr I just moved to mass what’s the best store to buy retired legos sets and figs?

[@billybob-zk9nm]

Mandrproductions. I am so happy you are also a fan of "Mr. Big Guy - WingsOfRedemption" it just makes me proud to be one of your subscribers

[@eduardocastellanos9197]

The brown 2020 battle pack should return and stay in production. It is literally a gem.

[@brickboy1892]

bro the meme at the start 😂

[@waynecurles78]

Hey when are we going to get an updated clone army im looking forward to that

[@Hockeykid870]

They are both good specially the 2020 set because all of the alternate builds that you can do like a clone drop ship which is one vehicle but the downside with alternate builds is that you’re gonna have a bunch of extra pieces left and the alternate build I did was very weak but still cool with the pieces they used from the 2020 set

[@reeceparriah4772]

I’m already nostalgic for the first 501st battle pack

[@deeznuts23yearsago]

I’m glad we got the battlefront 2 full set now I was always a heavy main so now I can finally have my 501st heavy

[@finzard887]

honestly i think i will buy more of the new one but that is because it is much cheaper and also the more cannons i have the better they look. There is also that each set contains extra macro binoculars and blue visors/ antennas. I do however agree that the 2020 is better overall.

[@MSS-333]

his dog at 7:12

[@pixel_hitmanwick6534]

Don’t press the hashtag It was accidental

[@Exo_Exity]

I like the idea of having “heavy troopers” around my battles and maybe some snipers but having 5 officers doesn’t make sense

[@xealxavier3573]

The proble i have with the 2020 one is that after 3 sets the display starts to get repetitive, and especially out of scale, that withheld me from buying any more, whilst the 2022 set has some great figures (though not accurate) I like to diversivy my clones, and with the 2022 one i can at least try to make the named clones from the show. So ill definitly get more of the 2022 one. But there both great, and way better then the 2017ish one

[@michaelgates3999]

I'm deffo gonna buy a second 501st legion pack and two of the new battle packs. They'll be dope for a bit of army building and having two officers means I could split them into two seperate battalions for display

[@spottieryeti6552]

2020 is definitely the better one. I’m just absolutely in love with the new one because I love BF2 and I main the 501st heavy gunner in the supremacy mode so getting a set based off the characters in the game and the character I love is just amazing. Plus I get 2 of them so that’s even better.

[@Antoinegune]

When the New one is it UP for sale ?

[@zachslaughter8754]

the thing that surprised me the most was that the heavys don't get z-6 rotary cannons! not even asking for a custom piece (that would rock though), there are plenty of brick-built options. just seems like a missed opportunity.

[@michaelgargano7627]

I capped off at 5 501st battle packs, will probably get 2, maybe 3 of the specialist one

[@Squishyk9]

The first thing i'm gonna do when i get the new one is take the specialist torso officer legs heavy helmet and macrobinoculars and make a commander type person

[@Jole514]

The moment nute gunray appeared at the start i immediately liked the video 🤣

[@HelloSmello]

the thing is I may end up getting more of the new one BECAUSE I only recently got back into Lego a few months ago and haven’t gotten many chances to get to 2020 one

[@thats_insane]

Nice

[@andrewrash1931]

I will definitely buy a few of the new 501st battle packs but I don’t see myself getting more then about 1/3 as many of the OG 501st battle packs. I have about 50 or so of them.

[@CanadaBricks]

501st Battlepack II: The Squeakquel

[@trifectumart]

I think i might be getting more of these just because I actually love having a plefora of specialised troopers, and it's pretty cheap compared to the 501st ones. I get the English discount and it's still 50 pounds for the price of two, wheres you get three for £5 less with these

[@UpperDeer-np3uu]

I do plan on buying more of the new ones because I made a mistake and only bought one 2020 battle pack before it retired. I plan on buying 2 of the new ones so I can open one and maybe have Ryan sign the other one at a convention and keep it sealed!

[@evill01]

tbh we should've gotten another battle pack as a counter to the clones, like we used to have before with these smaller sets. A new droid battle pack wouldn't be too bad because we haven't had any super battle droids for so long, or a siege of mandalore battle pack

[@2fishlplayz]

According to the stream all MandR wants is a galactic marines battle pack