Leica M10-R vs Sony A7RIII with Summilux 50/1.4 (vs Sony 50/1.2 GM) - using Leica lens with Sony

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This is something I wanted to check since I use Leica Summilux 50/1.4 with my Sony A7RIII cameras - would it perform any different on actual Leica camera? Thanks to Leica Store Warsaw I got to test out Leica M10-R and make head to head comparison, and since I had Sony 50/1.2 GM I added this to the mix.
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[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

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[@liferoundhere]

Regarding the weird light issue at 11:50 did you ever figure out what the cause was?

[@charliipresley]

I shoot with an M240 and a Sony a7riii. Definitely a time and place for each. The Sony can do anything but doesn’t necessarily inspire me to shoot. The Leica is more limited yet I want to use it and have it on me all the time

[@bobsykes]

I love this review, especially your summary at the end. The two comparable photos you made at 10:29 in this video, and the following one at 10:33, are pretty much everything.

[@davidbigephotography]

Spot on! I will eventually retire my a7RIIIs and get the 7IVs. One point for me is strange that you don't use is the APSC-C crope mode. I use it all the time with my 35mm lens to make it 50ish so I don't need to crop in post and can compose it in camera. Love your vids!

[@La4o21]

Great review! Would you mind sharing the color corrections you made on Sony files to match them to the Leica?

[@networm64]

One important question! Did you turn off the e-front curtain shutter when shooting 50 1.2? It can affect the bokeh a lot!

[@cosmosex3572]

Apparently, he didn't. The bokeh balls were cut in half in some of the 50 GM photos, especially 15B.

[@gurugamer8632]

If you use a Leica lens on a Sony A7riv body using an Voigtlander adapter what are the disadvantages? Do you use loose image quality as using an adapter changes the distance from of the lens from the sensor?

[@nelsoncheetube]

Thanks for this comparison. Love your show

[@jjchockey]

What are you using to film? 24MM GM? The bokeh is so nice and round lol

[@sulaymen]

As usual great content Magic! I spotted the first dislike on your video... Well, sign that you are growing, getting a greater audience and reaching farther! Happy for you and waiting for a new vid. Cheers!

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Haha thanks so much! Not the first one, but thanks to viewers like you I keep the ratio on my side :D

[@yopuivideo]

Thanks for this. I think you hit the nail on the head. Micro-contrast on the Leica. I just switched from Sony to Leica and with that comes that subtle flattery of the subject. . Leica on Sony body looks like a really good combination for pro work.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Yup, there’s just something about it, that’s really hard to describe what makes the image look very good!

[@markterrin8673]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer because the leica is more about the glass and less about the camera.

[@magiccarpetrider4594]

Shoot Zeiss on any full frame. I dumped Nikons in the 80s, bought Leica Ms and Rs. Better than Nikon, but not the ultimate for the cost. Finally bought canon bodies with the full line of Zeiss and that glass are all keepers.

[@gogulusss]

Dzięki za porównanie. Mam kilka szkieł z systemu Leica M i R, które czasem podpinam do A7RII. Malowany przez te obiektywy obraz ma coś w sobie niepowtarzalnego, co znacząco odróżnia go od szkieł Sony, Zeiss, czy Sigmy, które też posiadam. Cały czas patrzę jednak w stronę Leica M/Q, ale dzięki takim filmom jak Twój, wylewa się na moją gadżeciarską głowę kubeł zimnej wody wypełnionej racjonalnym stwierdzeniem, że mój poczciwy Soniacz potrafi to samo i jeszcze dużo więcej. To samo było z Fujifilm X100F, które miałem równolegle z RX100V. Przeważnie to Soniacz wygrywał moją kieszeń podczas wycieczek z elektroniką na lekko, gdzie Fuji grzało półkę (większe, mniej poręczne, fajna stałka i matryca, ale w góry i na wędrówki to jednak zoom jest lepszy). p.s.: właśnie Cie znalazłem i raczej zostanę z Tobą na dłużej :).

[@albertogvphoto]

Preference question, If your equipment is the SONY A7RIII, SONY A7RIV AND SONY A7IV and you would like to change one of them for another that you do not have, which one would you choose and which new one would you buy or would you choose to have two SONY A7IV selling the SONY A7RIII? Or you keep the equipment SONY A7 RIII , SONY A7RIV , SONY A7IV

[@thomastuorto9929]

Interesting enough. I thought the Sony/Sony combo did best. I shoot Nikon now & I’m thinking of trying Sony because of their AF system & to play with some video. But I must admit, I lust for a Leica. A better comparison would of been your all Sony combo vs a Leica SL with SL glass.. I would really like to see a SOOC comparison showing contrast & colors. I say Sony sets the standard for FF cameras these days, pushing others to try & keep up!

[@danieletamburini3797]

Woowww big comparison ! Which one do you prefer for wedding photographer ?

[@movetomirrorless]

I feel the same as you on this. want the 50 gm, want a 50 Summilux, and want a Leica film rangefinder (m6 preferably) to shoot my personal stuff. but, unlike you, I don't have any of those things, lol. currently I use a sony RX1 for my personal photos, helps me feel like im not working when I shoot the family pics. keep up the great video content, enjoying it very much from over here in California!

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Haha! RX1 - do you mean that tiny FF bad boy?

[@movetomirrorless]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer yep, that one. I like to call it a fat baby. fits in my fanny pack perfectly :)

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

This is a freaking awesome camera to be honest! I’ve played around with it and wish Sony would make version III with all the new amazing tech from A1 😂

[@movetomirrorless]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer yes, exactly. that thing would be so sweet!

[@TheLDunn1]

That was great, really enjoyed watched & educational too! I agree with your thought process - re processing your RAW's from each & comparing those - it's what you end up with at the end of the day which is important. I was on the Canon Eos system for very nearly 3 decades before getting an A7R3 at the end of 2017. I don't have a Summilux (yet!) but do have a range of other manual focus glass, including a few old Leica's (a 1938 Elmar, & a Summaron). I've been 'thinking' about Leica M10's for the past 18 months, but in March 2020 ended up adding a GFX 50r to use alongside my A7R3.....but that has not stopped me still looking at M10's!! I was surprised that many of the images you shared/compared, it was most often the Sony one I preferred. I didn't expect that at all.

[@markterrin8673]

True... same feeling

[@neerajnongmaithem392]

We all know that Leica's just looks good and premium, but their are far superior camera systems for the fraction of the price.

[@pedronunes6401]

the weird flare was from light bouncing on the rangefinder coupling arm. it's that little round thing inside the mounting flange on the top side that goes back and forward

[@liferoundhere]

Pedro, is there a way to remedy this? I suffer from this on my m10p

[@pedronunes6401]

@@liferoundhere yup, close down your lens, it happens when the lens flares a lot and too much light hits the inside of the body at a weird angle and the arm causes a square shaped shadow. It doesn’t happen with slower lenses or lower apertures because the flare circle isn’t projected so widely. Basically just don’t shoot wide open in broad daylight against the sun.

[@Lisardust]

Do you feel that the 50 Gm is a little bit wider than the Leica Summilux?

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Yup, it’s looks mm “shorter”!

[@wombatwombaffle]

Interesting video. I feel like I'm keeping my Sony for now.Thank you.

[@JasondePlater]

Pretty certain that weird flare on the Summilux is due to the adapter. Did you use the built in hood?

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

The weird flares were on Leica though. I’ve never had that flare cutout mounting this lens on Sony. Someone commented that this happens sometimes on Leica because of the sensor chamber. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@erickpro]

I also get that flare on my other digital leicas.

[@MusicByAngels]

The difference in sharpness when using Leica lenses on Leica vs Sony is supposed to show up in the corners, not on the image center, so the comparison is unfortunately incomplete. It is very hard to judge the corners when the lens is set at 1.4 and everything behind and in front of the model is out of focus. With a wide lens the difference is supposedly even more visible. It would also be useful for the audience to see an unedited raw file comparison in Lightroom so they can judge the color differences for themselves before you edit the files.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Ah Thanks for that! So you say Leica lens would be sharper on corners on Leica camera vs the Sony? You can check the unedited sample RAWs in the link in description to check the colors for yourself!

[@TKim103]

This is a known thing since the sensors on Leica bodies have micro-lenses to compensate for M mount lens designs - unfortunately this video is flawed

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Man, that’s a missed opportunity! Thanks for input! Although I was very much focused to test things for myself and the way I shoot and tbh corner sharpness would not be something I do care about much.

[@arize84]

Watch out; the corner patrol is in the house. We all know the most important parts of an image are the extreme corners. Corners or not, bottom line is that all these lenses perform extremely well and you don't need to see the corners to know this. And it's not like he is evaluating these 50mm lenses for use in landscape or architectural shots.

[@f0t0b0y]

I find these comparisons so necessary. I look at the Leica system like my buddy’s obsession with the 1987-1980 Porsche 911. They are incredibly fun to drive. Being able to feel the road through the mechanical feedback is exhilarating, the manual transmission feedback makes you feel like you’re apart of the road. You can feel the tires grip a little better, hell, I don’t know, maybe that’s my interpretation of the romance of driving a classic, the smell of the oil and gas, the fact that when you break you really have to give it a good stomp. It’s sad many will never know that feeling. It’s similar when I occasionally shoot film and in a time of modern cameras, Leica continue to merge classic with modern. People always go to comparing price and mock Leica, pretty sure I’ve done that before. Shit, now I’m that old fart that babbling on and on. Lol

[@malamadrem9522]

So! What right now in your hands ? Porsche 964 (Leica) or Italia 458 (Canon; Nikon; Sony) !? :)

[@JWysocki]

Great video!

[@keibro13]

I love your approach. I sold my Leica gear last year. I loved the romance of the camera, but found that I was shooting at f8 a lot, just so I could get the shot. I like the Sony f1.2 GM, but it’s pretty heavy. I will be selling that. I have the new Sony f1.4 GM and that’s the Goldilocks lens for me. Although, I think my favourite all round lens is the Sony 40mm. It would be better with a larger aperture, but I do like the size and weight. Anyway, great job.

[@markterrin8673]

Nice review! As I have the same choice to decide... I am a sony user (for work) but thinking of getting leica for myself... 35mm lense I think. The photos... they are different... I still think that sony produces a bit electronic view but of amazing sharpneaa and quality and leica is more natural and how the eye see. That is only my opinion, no ofense)) Thank you again for the review and samples.

[@erikagames4340]

Another great video Magic! Please hold spring of 2022 in London to photograph my wedding :-) Also random question: who designed your logo - was it Flothemes? Love it.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Thanks so much Erika! Omg, I’d love to shoot your wedding, reach out to me on IG or via website as spring 22 seems to be filling up really quickly with all the postponements from last 12 months! And the logo was designed by one of my Grooms actually!

[@erikagames4340]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer I will!

[@SourPlanet]

I had been using a Sony A7Rii for quite some time. Typically with manual focus glass like Voigtlander. I picked up a beat up original Q for comparison... And what immediately blew me away was the color, for sure. The lens is great across the board... But as someone who doesnt want to spend my time editing, that leica color science has me absolutely sold. Will definitely get the M10r eventually. This video further confirmed that for me.

[@johnadams3038]

You know what would be fun, comparing the Samyang 45mm to Summilux 50..

[@traianmol]

Samyang 45 better than Leica

[@miklosnemeth8566]

A new subscriber here. What a great content, really valuable. Did you have a chance to experiment with Techart M-E autofocusing adapter?

[@NickDelDuca]

Have you tried the new Voigtlander 50mm 1.2 for Sony? I've heard it's very similar to the Summilux 50 1.4 and it's native mount with electronic contacts for lens corrections and exif data.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

I have not! But I’m very tempted to get my hands on it!

[@NickDelDuca]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer I'm really tempted by it because it's on sale right now for $200 off the regular price. Looks like it trades blows with the leica for sharpness center vs corners at different apertures, background blur and bokeh rendering are almost identical. Voigtlander has better CA control. Seems like a really interesting option for Sony shooters who want that look. I wonder how the flares are in comparison.

[@luluphoto]

Could you please try a 35mm M lens on the Sony A7rv, I'd love to use a 35mm Summilux on the Sony but hear wider lenses don't work ad well on Sony cameras. ❤

[@williamgoss4691]

Intriguing. U hv set up the Ultimate Question … Leica or Sony ? But they both look great !! (I’ll watch more later… )

[@Jaxplode]

With some practice it's really easy to focus with with the Leica M. I just use it one weddings since 5 years. For me I am sometimes faster and more accurate than autofocus on some other cameras. The Summilux is really easy to focus. and there is the option to adapt an EVF on the Leica M.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

The EVF would be tempting. Do you use it? How useable is it? I’ll still gonna practice or film I guess when I get my hands on M6. Not evf for this one 😂

[@Jaxplode]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer Yes I use it frequently. It's really helpful especially with fast lenses like the Summilux or the Noctilux which I use a lot for Weddings. But just know I am so familiar with focusing of rangefinder I don't need the EVF... the more you practice the better you become...

[@PaulMarbrook]

At 11:24 on the SOny you have EFCS on ! The bokeh is cut in half....

[@julmaass]

Nowadays sensor tech is so good that you only see differences in the "fringe" cases. The clear difference is the experience of shooting with a rangefinder AND with shooting manual. I noticed you got a lot closer to your subject and filled the frame. For this reason alone, the Summilux images were better than the Sony G-Master. Perhaps manual focus is more your thing? G-Master is just ridiculous in terms of size. I would never shoot with something like that.

[@JokiW]

I'm shooting 50mm Summilux on Sony A7RIII and am thinking about complementing with 50mm gm and a film camera too haha. Although I might go with Voigtländer Bessa r3a for film and get a m240 for the Leica experience.

[@Sirfunkymonkey]

Do ever use flash for weddings? or do you shoot everything with natural light? If you do use flash what flash do you run? thanks, awesome content bro

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Hey dude! Most of the day I shoot with natural light, but always bring flash for reception - especially for dance floor stuff!

[@Sirfunkymonkey]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer yeah sweet, I jut recently purchased the godox v1 for that very things. Amazing content btw power on

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Yup! Good choice, I use very similar Profoto A1. I'll probably make a video on how I use flash in couple weeks, so stay tuned!

[@Sirfunkymonkey]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer yeah man please do, I have my first wedding in august haha

[@erickpro]

A 50mm Lux works good with adapted cameras like the Sony but once you start going wider 35mm and below, your opinion will change. Also, did you say the Sony lens was sharper but the Leica had better micro contrast? Isn’t that conflicted? Not sure I got it right. Thanks for posting! Awesome fotos.

[@arunashamal]

it is not conflicted. those are 2 different things

[@erickpro]

@@arunashamal can you elaborate with your response? Thanks!

[@arunashamal]

@@erickpro sharpness and micro contrast are 2 different things

[@erickpro]

@@arunashamal can you explain with details please?

[@wpuch]

Kolejny fajny film! Pozdro!

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Gracias wpuch!

[@MB-or8js]

For equal focusing at f/1.4, you would have needed the Viscoflex external EVF for the Leica M10-R. Using 50 mm M lenses and longer ones is no problem on Sony MLCs. The problems occur at some adapted 35 mm and shorter M lenses with magenta color casts und blurriness in the edges on Sony sensors. The cover glass of Sony sensors is much thicker than the one on Leica digital M cameras causing steeper light refraction in the corners of the frame with wider lenses and causing the issue. I am using Leica M and Sony A7R in parallel. Only using my A7R with adapted third party lenses including M lenses.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Thanks so much for this input! I guess I’m safe then using 50 lux on Sony. Which M lenses do you use with your Sony?

[@MB-or8js]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer The following work well: Leica 50/2 Summicron pre-ASPH, Leitz 50/1.5 Summarit LTM, Canon 50/1.4 LTM, Leica 35/2 Summicron Vers. IV pre-ASPH, Leica 90/2.8 Tele-Elmarit Vers. I, CV 28/2 Ultron, CV 35/1.2 II Nokton, CV 21/1.8. The following I have or used do NOT work well on Sony sensors: CV 12/5.6 II, Leica 35/2 Summicron ASPH vers. I, CV 25/4 Snapshot-Skopar LTM, Canon 35/2.8 Serenar LTM.

[@MB-or8js]

Rule of thumb from my experience: the faster the M lens, the better it will work on Sony sensors - tele lenses normally all work fine even at slower speeds. This is because the rear lens element of faster lenses is larger in diameter that the light beam refraction on the sensor will be less steep than with slower lenses. Exemption is the Leica 35/2 ASPH M lens, version I: severe focus shift on Sony sensors with always blurry corners even when stopped down. It must have to do with the specific ASPH design. I sold this lens and bought the predecessor as mentioned above, the 35/2 pre-ASPH vers. IV. It works excellent on Sony sensor and on my Leica Ms.

[@NinPossible]

To be honest, they both look fantastic. I can't tell the difference. ^_^

[@ngj1592]

the difference is the price.

[@NinPossible]

@@ngj1592 haha yeah

[@benoitpiret9065]

The biggest difference is the micro lenses in front of the sensor that have to be designed for M lenses. Only M and SL cameras carry that. That’s why you see a difference in the edges. It’s more pronounced on other focal lengths especially wider. And of course on larger prints…. The best is to use a SL/2/2S for M lenses focusing+quality Nothing beats the M system in quality+size+shooting experience

[@ryanhostudio]

shoot leica on nikon it’s quite cool to use manual lenses on different mirror less camera systems it makes it a cool experience

[@Beingaroundbean]

Do you think in polish? ;D

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

I think in Beanish!

[@ProbeRoket]

sony wins

[@PaulMarbrook]

At 10:27 that lens is not wide open, you can see the blades.

[@MagnetiqLabs]

It looks like you have to turn off electric front curtain on Sony, or opposite, i don't remember :-) But I saw a couple of times that there is some problems with bokeh on a lenses with very wide aperture. It cuts half of bokeh balls. And i see this half of circle in bokeh balls on some of these photos. Anyway, really good reviews, and good channel! Good luck with it ;-)

[@wojtekkopec9012]

Ciekawe porównanie Maciek. Myślę, że różnice wychodzą przy szerszych szkłach - Leica ma cieńsze szkło na sensorze i różnice widać już na 35mm - porównywałem na A7iii i M240-p. Z tym cieniem pod ostre światło - taki urok komory z migawką Lajki. Na moim Voitku 35 1.2 łapie dokładnie taką samą smugę.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Dzięki Wojtek! Absurd z tą komorą 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@MestreMur]

Nice photos...

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Thank you so much 🙂

[@XXThePeterXX]

To byłby dokładnie test który zrobiłbym mając taki zestaw do porównania. Przesiadłem się z Leica na Sony ze względu na filmowanie i też zostawiłem sobie dokładnie tego summiluxa. Super słyszeć że z Sony można uzyskać praktycznie ten sam rezultat co z Leica. Nie ma co zasłaniać się wymówkami i przyjmować sprzętem tylko działać. Dzięki za ten test!!!

[@gjb7966]

please make a SOOC (straight out of camera) comparison, otherwise this test isn't nearly as useful as it could be. contrast and color rendering can break or make a lens using each camera's "camera standard" profile in lightroom. if you craft a look in post, we can't see how the lens is truly performing.

[@blazeboy777]

Leica is special yes :D maybe go for m10 used, you have great deals and in a long run cheaper than film camera, while keeping experience of shooting film. I love it as my hobby cam :D here on vacation I took leica m10 and sony a1 with me and first few days when I had time I was shooting leica all the time, than when I went to the jungle and a boat I left my leica in safe and took my a1 who is built for shit like this :D I can send show you photos on an Ig if you want. Btw beautiful comparison of those two cameras and editing to match them.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Man, I kinda feel that camera like M6 will stay with me for a lifetime, while M10 will get old very soon… love your hobby setup 😂👌🏻

[@wreespace]

i think the stretching on the sony is happening due to the sensor size of sony. leica lenses match the film size and similar sensor on leica digitals. sony sensors does not match up with film sizes.

[@AminTheMystic]

Win for the Sony!

[@MathiasHeinel]

You know, in these settings I'm a cheapskate, so instead of getting a M6 for fun-and-games-experimenting I got an old Voightländer R2. Not really the same mechanical feeling, but close enough for Fun&Games. Which probably is all analog film photography is gonna be for me!

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

I’ll look it up! Thanks for the tip!

[@MathiasHeinel]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer If you go down that route the Bessa R is the orignal, oldest. Each generatio of R with a number added som fnctinaluty, But I don't temember which. Me getting he R2 was that I found it irst, it was cheap, and still worked good enough.

[@HopefulForever-ln5xm]

I’m a Leica MP film shooter but when I shoot digital, I mount my Leica lenses on my Nikon mirrorless camera. I dont think Leica digital cameras are worth the money. For the Leica experience, I’ll continue to shoot my Leica MP.

[@Ham-yj1od]

SONY has one color style which is called" Rich black and white" it combines 3 photos and the result smashes the Leica's.

[@bourdon845]

Intéressant

[@slows728]

Damn ... I prefer the Leica on almost every picture.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Haha, I'm sorry for your wallet :D

[@baan3197]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer uh oh. I'm scared to watch this now lol. Jkjk currently at work and waiting for lunch to watch and rewatch when I get home on 4k

[@CryoftheProphet]

If you saw the Leica SL summilux, its even better, I like sony but they just dont shoot like Leica

[@slows728]

​@@CryoftheProphet I have the 50mm GM with the A7III and the 50mm S Pro (certified by Leica) for my S1. I also had the 50mm Zeiss Planar FE (I sold it for the 50mm GM). I can't afford the 50mm Summilux SL for now but I've watched some samples online and I loved the rendering. A lot of people seems to love the 50mm GM but I don't like it. Like you said, the 50mm GM renders a lifeless image . However you said the Leica have more "pop" and contrast, I think it is quite the contrary, the GM is very contrasty and make the subject "pop" a lot, but there is no depth, no dimensionality, it's like if the subject was cut and past inside a background... I think it lack microcontrast. The Planar FE has better microcontrast and better colors than the GM in my opinion. My currently best 50mm is the 50mm S Pro Panasonic, the rendering of this lens is very punchy with nice colors and very good microcontrast. Did you tried the 50mm S Pro and the 50mm Planar FE as well ? If yes, how do you compare them to the Summilux 50mm SL ? Thank you.

[@CryoftheProphet]

@@slows728 the s pro honestly is one of the best lenses Panasonic makes. If you want dimensionality and contest, I feel like the 50mm summilux (SL) or the m are going to blow your mind. The SL 50 lux in my opinion is single greatest 50mm in existence of any brand at any time, it’s that good from my experience and while some say it’s unwieldy, I don’t find that to be the case at all.. it’s slightly different than the M and honestly both are great choices but I preferred the SL after having both

[@Uns46]

the bokeh on the Leica f/1.4 is smoother than the Sony f/1.2 GM. I am surprised

[@cosmosex3572]

The bokeh in the 50GM photos was heavily deteriorated by the electronic front curtain shutter. The manual mentions: "When you shoot at high shutter speeds with a large-aperture lens attached, out-of-focus circle produced by the bokeh effect may get cut off because of the shutter mechanism. If this happens, set [e-Front Curtain Shut.] to [Off]".

[@Uns46]

@@cosmosex3572 yea I have these 2 cameras. And I have the e curtain off on my Sony

[@CryoftheProphet]

The Leica SL Summilux is even better than the M Summilux, and easily the greatest 50mm ever made, I used to be a sony shooter and while yes, you are paying insane money for Leica, the results speak for themselves, especially when you are accustom to shooting with them.

[@princeharbinger]

@@cosmosex3572 You're right. I wish they would update the cameras to have a auto feature that would turn it off whenever you reach a high shutter speed. I guess you could likely counter having to raise it using a ND CPL filter, or a regular ND filter. I really hope I don't have to wait until September to get my copy. I ordered mine in early April.

[@princeharbinger]

@@CryoftheProphet It's a shame that lens you mentioned isn't as compact as the one that is shown in the video. I'd like a Leica lens one day to adapt to my Sony camera. However after doing a lot of comparison research between different 50mm leica lenses. I'm finding it hard to find one that has nice bokeh rendering that would justify the asking price.

[@JLeoH]

Even 50mm lenses have a noticeable falloff on Sony cameras due to the Sony sensor glass (very thick!). 35mm lenses and wider lenses completely fall apart on Sony E-mount. The use of M glass on Sony E-mount cameras has caused a large amount of false information Leica M glass' quality. If you want to get the best results on mirrorless cameras with Leica M glass, you need to go for Leica L mount (SL, S1, S5) or Nikon Z. M -cameras still have better corner performance. Sony works best with retroflex designs such as Leica R. That is due to the nature of the sensor and the angle in which the light hits the sensor.

[@robiulahmed]

I suppose it's swings and roundabouts, since Leica M cameras totally fall apart with anything beyond 75mm due to the archaic focusing system.

[@JLeoH]

@@robiulahmed You don't buy it for tele lenses. If you need those, then it's not the system for you. It's a camera for reportage and the rangefinder system is best for that! Esp. 50mm is just great with the rangefinder. Try it out!

[@robiulahmed]

@@JLeoH Yeah, I have my eye on a Leica M-A, most likely with 24mm and 50mm summiluxes. God willing, one day.

[@JLeoH]

@@robiulahmed Better get the 24mm 3.8 Super Elmar. It's much better and cheaper. ;-)

[@robiulahmed]

@@JLeoH thanks for the recommendation, but I shoot in fairly low light conditions and with film, it's a big deal to have those extra stops. I was considering a Fuji GFX 100s kit (which would be overall a bit cheaper), but ultimately I'd be happier with the superior build and feel of the Leica vs the image quality of the Fuji.

[@mjbgjmg687]

I want the M10…. 😭

[@olympus2OM]

Get you a Leica M6, M7 or MP.

[@johnadams3038]

Wow the flaring/ghosting on the Summilux is atrocious.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Weird, right?

[@Huongtrangtv68]

I like sony.

[@eh1333]

I cannot see any significant difference from all the comparison photos!

[@realamericannegro977]

Me either. Until i can afford Leica, I'll stick with Sony

[@jakaskorjanc2598]

Nice open minded review. Bravo.

[@johnadams3038]

I got my GM-50 for my A7-III and to be honest there is no better 50mm lens than the GM.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

I hope to get my copy by the end of the week. Sony nailed it with this one!

[@CryoftheProphet]

I prefer the Leica SL Summilux 50mm, that is easily the greatest 50mm lens ever made.

[@weizenobstmusli8232]

Canon and Nikon are better.

[@johnadams3038]

@@CryoftheProphet Really doubt that, nothing is really on the level of that GM-50, not to mention auto-focusing capabilities.

[@johnadams3038]

@@weizenobstmusli8232 They are load and slow AF, also heavier. Their 50mm f1,2 are not on the same level as this GM-50.

[@Hector_Malot]

The Leica M lens has been designed to operate on an M body with a Flange Focal Distance (FFD) of 27.80mm. On the Sony you add an additional mechanical part (adapter ring) between the lens and the body. This will add an uncertainty of at least a tenth of a mm, sufficient to modify the FFD and move the focal point. This is the eternal problem of adapting M lenses to a Sony camera. This makes this comparison inadequate and worthless. Instead, put on a good Zeiss lens designed for this camera and the results will be much better.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Thanks for the comment. What is the negative output of that problem on Sony then?

[@adden2242]

Sony is King 👑 👌

[@traianmol]

Leica... It's just more expensive!

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Haha sounds like ad slogan - “Leica… it’s just more expensive” 😂

[@suzesiviter6083]

I can sell you a dog turd for 55,000 interested?

[@MrMatadorka]

Polaku a Polski kanał masz?

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

A mam, zapraszam w imieniu swoim i mojego przyjaciela Tomasza - kzbin.info

[@wojt4spes]

Polaku XD jak śmiesz mówić po angielsku :D a w wojsku byłeś?

[@jonstreeter1540]

I bought my first Leica, an M3 with DR Summicron, when I was seventeen. Leicas are fabulous cameras. I recently sold my entire collection of Leica gear (a Q, SL, M3, M6, and six lenses) and switched to Sony, largely because of the influence of a longtime friend who is one of the Sony artisans and is himself a former Leica shooter. Sony’s new GM lenses designed for both sharpness AND bokeh - for which many (though not all) Leica lenses are famous - was, together with Sony’s legendary autofocus - was enough to push me over the edge. When my @1 or a1 or A1 arrives, I’ll let you know how I think they compare.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Hey Jon! Thanks so much for your comments! Would love to hear your thoughts after you shoot a bit with A1 and GM lenses (especially 35 and 50). Also would you say finding used M6 is a good choice for a personal film Leica camera to par with my Summilux?

[@DITTOE]

Sony is better... maybe not as cool but better cameras

[@cirke1477]

The a7r3 is the worst camera I have ever owned , it’s even not a camera it’s an aircraft cockpit

[@jeffrandall4046]

Omg...too much talking, just get to it.

[@magiccarpetrider4594]

Weddings, yuck

[@cameraprepper7938]

You have to learn to say Leica correct !

[@rustypadlock5129]

Man, you talk too much. Just show us the photos.